What will Defy+ get? Jelly Bean or $100 - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As you can see in another thread (OMAP 3630/3620/3610 and Ice Cream Sandwich), other companies have been capable of making phones with ICS that have hardware equivalent to Defy+.
The new Motorola CEO Dennis Woodside brings some light (minute #36)
"We know that keeping current on the latest Android Operating System is important to all of our users.
We will upgrade most of our devices that were launched since 2011 to Jelly Bean very soon, but there are a small number of devices which can't be upgraded without degrading the phone performance.
So for those owners, we'll offer a $100 credit with the purchase of any device we unveil today."
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I really appreciate their efforts to bring the upgrades, fair enough when phones with great hardware such as
Milestone 3 (dual core Cortex-A9) would otherwise "remain on Android 2.3" (https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c).
The question is: can Defy+ handle something better than Gingerbread without degrading the phone performance?

Sure it can. CM10 by quarx+ custom kernel = better than any motorola stock bull****
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I followed every build of Quarx's CM10 and found it great. I had one recurring issue where the phone would sometimes not wake up. It would take up to an hour to wake up and I would usually just pull the battery. Also many games were slow.
I recently reinstalled CM7.2 and feel like I have a new phone. Of course it depends how many apps you are running and whatnot. No more lag though and games are fast. From my experience, going to Jellybean is hard on the Defy and it really starts to show its hardware limitations.

Well that's not true. Yes there are issues with ram consumption and delayed app starts but its not even in an rc stage yet. Nightlies are meant to have problems. And the speed in which superdev quarx is correcting them is madness!!
As for me, I've been using the jelly build since the first usable nightly, and its going well till now. Risks involved but well that's part of the fun
My bet on the op is defy plus users will get a tap on their back and a lollipop(maybe)
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sUpErwHoO said:
Yes there are issues with ram consumption and delayed app starts but its not even in an rc stage yet.
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Well you kinda confirmed it true with this statement
It may end up being faster than cm7.2, but none of us know if it will or not. I can only speak for right now. Nobody knows if the slow down is bugs or just the limits of the hardware, though I suspect on a dual core handset it would run pretty snappy.
For now it's slower but Quarx's progress is superb.

scottdanpor said:
I followed every build of Quarx's CM10 and found it great. I had one recurring issue where the phone would sometimes not wake up. It would take up to an hour to wake up and I would usually just pull the battery. Also many games were slow.
I recently reinstalled CM7.2 and feel like I have a new phone. Of course it depends how many apps you are running and whatnot. No more lag though and games are fast. From my experience, going to Jellybean is hard on the Defy and it really starts to show its hardware limitations.
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Nope. With minimal gapps the ROM is fast as hell! Using full gapps clogs the system partition causing lag. With proper management of hwa use and a bit of overclocking cm10 blows cm7 away!
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You won't get either, unless you're on version wireless, you'll get the 100$. I don't see it other way... I can only laugh when I see the developer edition of the mobiles... to whom will you develop to? The rest of the users cannot use the kernels you develop!

Sadly, Defy+ gets nothing.
Motorola lists phones that won't get Jelly Bean, offers $100 credit to buy a phone that will
​Back in September, Motorola Mobility announced that some of its handsets from 2011 and later wouldn't be making the jump to Jelly Bean. In an effort to smooth things over with exiled customers, the company pledged that it would offer a $100 rebate to those who trade up to a select Motorola smartphone. Today, the Google-owned Android maker has released a list detailing which phones qualify for this promotion. If you're among the many who purchased a Droid 3, Droid X2 and Photon 4G, it looks like an official update to Android 4.1 is out of the question. It should be noted that this offer doesn't affect your wireless contract's terms and conditions (read: ETF may still apply). However, if you're just aching to pick up a Motorola phone that released in 2012, then why not score a $100 credit for your troubles? Move past the break to see which other devices made didn't make the cut.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/19/motorola-phones-no-jelly-bean-upgrade/

Lol...defy is not even in the list!!!!
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DINC & ICS

Am I the only one who creams his pants at the thought of the DINC getting an Ice Cream Sandwich port at some point?
HOLY CANNOLI.
I'm sure people will try, how well it will work is another thing.
Yep not holding my breath on the inc getting port of ics. Unless it is going to come out on a current phone then a port may be possible. But I would think the hardware acceleration will not work for a while as it will likely not have drivers for our old incs.....
While it would be great, I don't know if I need it. Out of curiosity, what do you see as the draw to ICS?
Why would you not want the latest android version?
Could you really just sit around, running Gingerbread, knowing full well that ICS is out there and you aren't running it?
That's a sad, sad thought amigo.
I'm too much of a geek to be cool with running anything but the latest android version..

			
				
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Nexus S gets it first =\
http://rootzwiki.com/content.php?r=221-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-Pics-RootzWiki-Exclusive
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it gets it first but we start an unofficial port of it the same day lol
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JoelZ9614 said:
it gets it first but we start an unofficial port of it the same day lol
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^ l
hmm...how to rom w/o power button...
Id love it! Always gotta have updated android, its alot cheaper than changing phone!
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Nexus S doesn't get it first. Nexus PRIME gets it first. I've been hearing its Verizon too. My next phone.
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Nexus S doesn't get it first. Nexus PRIME gets it first. I've been hearing its Verizon too. My next phone.
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It'd be about time that verizon got a nexus
exciting news that ice cream is coming up and hopefully for our phones too, will be watching here
No matter how much I love my AMOLED DInc, I'd rather have a brand new phone running ICS than trying to shoehorn it onto my "old" phone. I'm thinking ICS will be meant for phones with more power and RAM than the DInc has. So, I'd rather have a new more capable phone running the latest version of Android than cutting out features and decreasing performance to run on an old phone.
I was originally thinking I'd spring for a Bionic as soon as it was released and then use my upgrade later if I didn't like the phone. But hearing rumors about what's just over the horizon has me wanting to simply wait until January when I'm due for a subsidized upgrade. I sure hope the Nexus Prime is available on Verizon... if not, looks like I just might end up with an HTC Vigor.
So if I flash ICS, can I still root it with Unrevoked?
I had to do it, reading the Desire forums of people flashing 2.3 from HTC development site, and asking, sorry *****ing, that now they can't root... I had to say it.
I'm sure we can run it well, it's coming to the nexus s, which has a weaker CPU than the dinc.
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If someone gets ahold of the code, you can believe that someone else will make it work. It will probably only be ASOP but who cares, it will still be ICS.
liteon163 said:
No matter how much I love my AMOLED DInc, I'd rather have a brand new phone running ICS than trying to shoehorn it onto my "old" phone. I'm thinking ICS will be meant for phones with more power and RAM than the DInc has. So, I'd rather have a new more capable phone running the latest version of Android than cutting out features and decreasing performance to run on an old phone.
I was originally thinking I'd spring for a Bionic as soon as it was released and then use my upgrade later if I didn't like the phone. But hearing rumors about what's just over the horizon has me wanting to simply wait until January when I'm due for a subsidized upgrade. I sure hope the Nexus Prime is available on Verizon... if not, looks like I just might end up with an HTC Vigor.
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The dinc will be able to run ice cream...i mean we are running gingerbread already as it is and we dont even have official even the htc hero has gingerbread and they didnt get upgraded past eclair or cupcake lol

ice cream sandwich for atrix?

hi all,
I went through search and did not find much about this question on my mind for this week.
its been bootloader unlocked and having gingerbread source code available.
I wonder whether atrix will get community build of ics.
i am honestly bored of f***ed up power management of android on dual cores.
i dont know what is problem here but
NVIDIA is not fixing their heating issues.
GOOGLE is not fixing up power management of android on multicore hard ware.
MOTOROLA the great we know ,is slow and lazy ass to move forward in ics for atrix.
i hate the day when i decided about buying atrix.
its bloody radiator and its heating temp. of 54celcius on normal use.
I am using cherryblur 1.4d and faux 123's optimised 1ghz kernel both latest.
i tried undervolting as well but it still heats up crazy.
I am honestly bugged with it.
may be I am totally wrong about my understanding.
i have samsung focus running mango and i prefer it for casual netbrowsing than my atrix.
I hate the NVIDIA for its heating legacy.
I swear on name of god that i wont touch anything with any kind of nvidia inside.
can we expect atrix to get better power management with ice cream sandwich which supposedly optimized for multicore processing.
I also for a brief time had both heating and battery issues with an over clocked kernel I decided to go to a kernel which was not overclocked I'm getting good battery life with no power management apps running and I never overheat anymore. Maybe ur issues can be improved with a new rom and Kernel?
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Officially? No one knows if it will get it at all or not until something leaks. Unofficially, it depends on how active the dev community gets. Short answer is, no on knows.
Also does anyone know if/when we will get Jellybean? lol
Check this out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpZ7-3ouWmQ
You're kidding right? Motorola is "slow and lazy" in regards to ICS for our Atrix ....really? You're right because ICS is NOT YET available lol.
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sounds to me like this guy just got a bad phone (hardware), it happens.
should have returned that sucker right away.
if it bothers you that much, just sell the phone, cut you loses, and get another brand.
That's just the boot animation.
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I just rated this thread one star.
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I just rated this thread one star.
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hahaha. Lol
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bigdog_nick said:
That's just the boot animation.
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LOL I realized that right after I posted the link!!!! LOL (sorry!)
Yes, that seems to be just the boot animation...
However I'm confident that sooner or later will get ICS through unofficial channels like XDA.
Patience is a virtue.... a virtue I don't have unfortunately.
sanriver12 said:
sounds to me like this guy just got a bad phone (hardware), it happens.
should have returned that sucker right away.
if it bothers you that much, just sell the phone, cut you loses, and get another brand.
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That's what I decided.
That is most logical choice.
rjayflo said:
You're kidding right? Motorola is "slow and lazy" in regards to ICS for our Atrix ....really? You're right because ICS is NOT YET available lol.
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Its not question of availability.have they upgraded all their androids to latest versions? I dont think so.
I know its carrier who slows down update delivery.
When company is already putting out atrix2, do you think we will get ics that easily.?
I will be happiest of lot even if they declare that they are going to upgrade ATRIX to ics.
nimixes said:
I also for a brief time had both heating and battery issues with an over clocked kernel I decided to go to a kernel which was not overclocked I'm getting good battery life with no power management apps running and I never overheat anymore. Maybe ur issues can be improved with a new rom and Kernel?
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Which rom are you using?
I will surely give it another chance .
Kindly share the rom.
My main grudge is why do they not optimize their software to get benefited out of dual core processing? ??
As I am not even remotely related to programming or anything with engineering,I understand it may take time to optimize.
but for company like Google how difficult is it to optimize their code for multicore processing???
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hahaha. Lol
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hahaha AND LOL? must have been pretty funny to have both! Redundant
holtenc said:
hahaha AND LOL? must have been pretty funny to have both! Redundant
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I'm glad there are rules on things like haha and lol man people sure know how to kill the internet. Thanks fun sucker
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White people problems
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White people problems
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drpratik: well... IIRC, didn't Google buy, or semi-merge with Motorola? That could help with the speed of things. Not to mention the supposed steps that are taking place in order to try to get devices up to date much more efficiently than the current pace allows.
As for optimization for dual-core phones.... you DO realize that there wasn't a SINGLE dual-core android device, let alone a phone, until the Motorola Xoom made it's debut, right? Which came out with Honeycomb... which is more than likely designed to use dual-core CPU's. There aren't really that many updates to previous Android versions shy of bug fixes when a new version of Android comes out. And seeing as ICS will be the first NEW Android OS for cell phones since Gingerbread, i'm sure we'll probably see it sooner or later... but probably sooner. Either officially, or from a modded ROM.
I do appreciate your response and that both ATRIX and XOOM run on same tegra2 platform.
I agree that optimization takes time.
But tegra 2 is out for at least 18 months.
I have high hopes for ics.what I dont like is android can't see the second core also forget utilizing.if android is not able to see also then why not throttle it down and put it into hibernate and use only when software can take benefit it.
I thought my battery is bad.I started using new battery but same result.
Back to point-- Google has bought Motorola for its patents portfolio to fight off apple attack and I will be really happy if this relationship proves fruitful for end users.
Lets hope for best.

[idle conversation] no more leaks so far...

Is anyone else becoming increasingly concerned there hasn't been many leaks?
By now I would have expected quite a few more leaks, but there hasn't even been a whisper of another one...
not at all, i would rather stick to a stable GB rom than use the buggy ics leaks
people seem to think ics is magically gonna transform the device...
ICS certainly transforms the device. Going back to Gingerbread from ICS makes you realize how inadequate the former is for such a wonderful device. ICS is silky smooth while Gingerbread feels like watching stop-motion photography. Livewings did such a good job ironing out some of the kinks in the ICS leak that it has become my everyday rom. You couldn't pay me to go back to Gingerbread.
+1 on this.
If you try a ICS build in your Note, and if you can flashe it without getting FC´s and some other errors, you never want to came back to GB again, because the speed and usability is just in another level.
I don't know why there is only one leaked ICS rom for the Note.
It's very strange when we see the SII with many leaked ICS roms and other devices too, but not the Note.
Is the ICS Rom for the Note the biggest secret Rom from Samsung?
The awesome thing is that all leaks are running at 1.2GHz CPU speed and the real one will use 1.4, so it will be even faster!
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Richy99 said:
not at all, i would rather stick to a stable GB rom than use the buggy ics leaks
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What is the relation between Gingerbread and ICS firmware for Note?! Who cares about GB?! I need stable ICS, I spit on this GB...
Since many devices already got the update, we won't see them as much now. Who knows, maybe the Note ICS update is around the corner as well.
senectus said:
Is anyone else becoming increasingly concerned there hasn't been many leaks?
By now I would have expected quite a few more leaks, but there hasn't even been a whisper of another one...
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it just means ics release is nearing.
Actually the note is already fabulous using GB,
so for me there is no need to hurry into buggy ICS ports.
But ppl who live and love to test, feel free and go ahead
Probably wont see much since focus switch to premium suite. I think thats why we havent seen any leaks.
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Probably wont see much since focus switch to premium suite.
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Samsung update priorities are just off IMO. Gimme a working ICS first for God's sake and then offer S-stuff. As for Angry Birds additional whatever - I don't give a flying faeces for that.
chasmodo said:
Samsung update priorities are just off IMO. Gimme a working ICS first for God's sake and then offer S-stuff. As for Angry Birds additional whatever - I don't give a flying faeces for that.
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Cant agree more!!
As always you said it all!! :beer:
SHOT from my LOADED GT-N7000!!
Personally I've found the relative regularity of frequency of Leaks to indicate solid Dev work..
I feel that the fact that we've had one buggy release, a blown out release date and now "promised' extras make me think that they're not getting much Dev done.
Its common practice to promise more when you've missed your promised release date, in an attempt to "curry favour" with the disaffected customers.
this looks promising, from same forum that leaked the last one
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this looks promising, from same forum that leaked the last one
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Interesting they are saying a may release so that's like a month away
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So it's kind of possible to get another GB update before May...
You go on like kids is dinner ready yet mum! It'll be ready when its ready.
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What is the relation between Gingerbread and ICS firmware for Note?! Who cares about GB?! I need stable ICS, I spit on this GB...
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and you will get stable once samsung release it, it isnt that hard to underdstand or maybe it is
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chasmodo said:
Samsung update priorities are just off IMO. Gimme a working ICS first for God's sake and then offer S-stuff. As for Angry Birds additional whatever - I don't give a flying faeces for that.
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yet the s-pen is a gimmick of the note, why woudl they release software without being abe to show the potential of part of their selling gimmick? they woudl be shooting themselves in the foot by doing that

Official ICS Officially DeBlurred

Motorola ICS UI review: this isn't the Blur we used to know
Looks like the official ICS ROM will be mostly vanilla. With such a light touch and now being owned by Google, maybe they'll go full vanilla in the future.
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We already have a few ICS discussion threads, you could have known that months ago by reading one of them.
This thread title is misleading. Offical release date is most likely Q4 2013.
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This thread title is misleading. Offical release date is most likely Q4 2013.
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No, I'm pretty sure it's next Tuesday.
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
And I stand by my original statement that it will be released on Friday.
Jelly Bean right after, on Saturday.
I am not sure if they would provide a vanilla UI for ATrix like we see in Razr.
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I am not sure if they would provide a vanilla UI for ATrix like we see in Razr.
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I think yes. It's cheaper and easier to use the same code.
Consider we're talking about motorola. That UI is for OMAP devices and Atrix isn't equipped with OMAP. We'll see all together.
I doubt the UI will be different just because the processor is. With it so deblurred, you gotta wonder why they even bother redoing any part of it. They can just include the bloat they want as apps without messing with the framework. Maybe the carriers are insisting on crippling some features.
Code is written in high level programming language like C++.
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I doubt the UI will be different just because the processor is. With it so deblurred, you gotta wonder why they even bother redoing any part of it. They can just include the bloat they want as apps without messing with the framework. Maybe the carriers are insisting on crippling some features.
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Its the same case as why the Photon and Atrix got a different, uglier and sluggish Blur instead of the one that came with all the Motorola phones equipped with OMAP4 chips.
Heck, the ICS Blur we see on our Atrix might even be the original ugly Android4 blur that is available for download everywhere.
Sent from that Atrix.
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Its the same case as why the Photon and Atrix got a different, uglier and sluggish Blur instead of the one that came with all the Motorola phones equipped with OMAP4 chips.
Heck, the ICS Blur we see on our Atrix might even be the original ugly Android4 blur that is available for download everywhere.
Sent from that Atrix.
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Agreed.
Heck the launcher on the initial Froyo builds was so much more faster!
And then the rest of the Motorola phones comes out, and guess what ? Atrix is suddenly sluggish? I mean seriously?
I actually complained about screen switching being TOO fast on the Froyo build lol... ooops.
GB update was weird for me, it worked GREAT for a long time, then it started getting buggy and sluggish, I factory reset it like 4 times with new blur accounts etc, and nothing helped, finally rom'd it the other day and couldn't be happier..
Got to figure out a solution for webtop though, I used that a LOT.
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Got to figure out a solution for webtop though, I used that a LOT.
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If reports are correct (that Webtop has been replaced with tablet mode plus some candy), then the only solution that is rational is to run a headless Linux disttro and RDC into it.
Even if all the bits of code needed to spin up X are opensource, it is going to be a huge pain for somebody to port it over to ICS. And some items (such as the kernel mod that mux's inputs to both X and 'droid) I do not beleive are avaiable.
Using an RDC aproach makes it is fairly easy to put a distro of your choice on the Atrix though, so that is a plus.
To me the question would be if I was to use a full screen RDC to an 'ux desktop, or just bring up a window to the app that I want. Really need to see how it all plays after we get the real Tegra drivers for ICS out.
after many Tuesday, still waiting for ICS
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after many Tuesday, still waiting for ICS
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Right, Motorola is testing our patient. Always look forward to next Tuesday!
fuuuu.... i think , that ics officialy released...
lol
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fuuuu.... i think , that ics officialy released...
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:laugh: same here

4.4 kitkat 4 Xperia play (google said, technically)

Sorry travelling today, will post details tomorrow. See screenshot
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Sorry travelling today, will post details tomorrow. See screenshot
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from the God of gaming, the Xperia Play
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KitKat is all fine and dandy but without, I am sure, additional sources released by Sony (Ericsson) we will probably never get a JB kernel working and still retain full Xperia PLAY compatibility... then again I may be completely wrong and if I am someone correct me. I have stayed pretty much on GB for gaming. Either way, thanks for sharing... although I think this should go to the General forum.... anyways... thread on.
google says that they made the OS smaller and after so old devices that didn't get in the past update can now get update because they resolve many issues.
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google says that they made the OS smaller and after so old devices that didn't get in the past update can now get update because they resolve many issues.
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Well maybe 4.4 is for older phones but as you know the companies support they devices for a short period of time. So no KitKat for us...
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google says that they made the OS smaller and after so old devices that didn't get in the past update can now get update because they resolve many issues.
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True but they also stated those will need to be updated by either the carrier or the manufacturer of the device(s). As $ony long ago gave up on the PLAY, I think its incredibly unlikely we will see any support form Sony and or even source releases.
Still, it would be awesome if we can get it up and running, but dont forget the highest kernel we can sort of get working, is kernel 3.4.
Kitkat would be an even higher kernel number.
Google isn't even releasing KitKat for the Galaxy Nexus. Sony isn't going to do it either, and it would need hardware drivers from Qualcomm side too.
Why is this thread in the dev section?
is that true?
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Sorry for wrong section... Anyway to delete? On another note, dony and erricson broke up so i dunno if they would be wanting to support our 2011 devices. All we can do id hope a dev/sony has the power to bring us 4.4...
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I think if the 3.4 Kernel is working it wont be difficult to get kitkat running. But as far there is no touch in 3.4
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I'm 100% sure that sony has abandoned our plays .It's a good news to hear that the upcoming android OS is going to be a light one
majed6 said:
I'm 100% sure that sony has abandoned our plays .It's a good news to hear that the upcoming android OS is going to be a light one
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They abandoned it,yes.As far as i know,there are no new models build and everything that is floating around in shops are the last produced batches,not getting the update to Android 4 kinda sealed this assumption
I don't know if the X Play will ever get KitKat but Google introduced a new runtime called ART to replace Dalvik with KitKat, on my Nexus 4 it really improve the performance to a substantial amount, so maybe that will help as well.
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Would be great if Sony would pay more attention to their old phones, specially because they cancelled the ics update so sudden.
But i don´t think this will happen.
And that's one reason I won't buy Sony again.
we will get 4.4, not official but we will get it.
once i got a play i will work on it, otherwise we will have an other dev.
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we will get 4.4, not official but we will get it.
once i got a play i will work on it, otherwise we will have an other dev.
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so? is there anyone working on kitkat roms for xPlay? or its abandoned at all?
By the looks of it, KitKat is out of reach for our device, theres barely any 4.1 or 4.2 jellybean roms functioning, what makes you think we will get 4.4 any time soon? Our Play is best optimised for GB due to performance issues as ICS+ isn't 100% functional on our play. Don't believe me? try any ics rom out and sooner or later you will find out that games will lag and memory will tend to be low. Sorry but this is the bottom line for our xperia play.
Legacyxperia (mostly mike) is working to get gully working 3.4 kernel. Than we wpuld be able to boot kitkat.
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It is indeed possible, and I am saying this because I have NEO L(same as xplay) and I ran kitkat on my phone, thanks to @Mike's hard work. He reached at a point now where touch is working, he just need to have Wifi,Camera and some other things work and it will be there
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