Going from G2 to Xperia Mini Pro - G2 and Desire Z General

I have had the G2 for well over a year now and recently felt the need for a change. In my opinion the G2 is one of the best physical keyboard phones of its day; the next phone had some big shoes to fill.
Physical keyboard either slide or candy bar style
GSM based
Hspa speeds
Android 2.3 or later
Decent battery life
Not too big
Faster processor than the G2
After searching diligently for the right fit it came down to these two phones:
Motorola pro plus - candy bar style
Larger body
Bigger battery
1Ghz processor
HSPA
Xperia mini pro - slider style
Compact design
Front facing camera
1Ghz processor
HSPA
The reviews for the Motorola Pro plus on youtube were pretty good but not overwhelmingly so.
The Xperia mini pro had a bit more reviews and seemed to hold up well for different types of users.
So i ordered the Xperia mini pro and can say that i am not disappointed. The size and speed of this phone are what set it apart in the physical qwerty domain. The user interface that Sony has layed on top on Android is quite impressive and very intuitive. If your thinking of getting a new qwerty do not hesitate with this one.
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isnt this a downgrade from the g2/dz...
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demkantor said:
isnt this a downgrade from the g2/dz...
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Kinda,the screen is lower resolution.. 320x480..but the processor is better
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isnt this a downgrade from the g2/dz...
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Not at all. The smaller screen is excellent and the phone seems much easier to use.
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DON'T
This is what a downgrade is.
If you want a change and a physical keyboard, at least buy a Motorola Droid 4.
To exchange Z with any other phone is just unnecessary.

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Kinda,the screen is lower resolution.. 320x480..but the processor is better
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The processor is identical to ours. It just has a slightly higher clock rate.
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The processor is identical to ours. It just has a slightly higher clock rate.
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That's wat I mean,200mhz faster s2 chip
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Just root and overclock your Vison and done.
Vision's screen is much bigger, the phone is less thick, higher resolution, much more internal storage and so one.....

I don't understand why you didn't just get the xperia pro, which has the same specs, except it has a bigger and higher res screen. Anyway, if he's happy with what he has now, then let him be happy, it was his choice to get a different phone and whether it was an upgrade or not is irrelevant since he's happy with it.

I also see it as a downgrade rather then a move across sideways. The Xperia mini pro replaced the Xperia x10 mini which was very much regarded as a mid range phone. The Desire Z however during its release was regarded as a high end phone and the extra features show that i.e higher resolution screen, Gorilla glass, faster hspda speeds & better battery.
However I can understand why you wanted to update to a newer handset and keep with a physical Qwerty, after all they're becoming instinct :'(

Update almost two weeks using the Xperia mini pro.
So far it has been a really good experience and i have just upgrade to ICS. Battery life has been about average but bought two other Sony batteries for like 20 bucks shipped on amazon. Photos look really good on the phone with outdoor shots captured having amazing vividness. Keyboard is even better than at first, getting used to the layout. See photo below. Keep in mind i could have gone with the samsung captivate glide but really wanted something that fit easily in the hand and was not too bulky... This delivers.
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thanks for the update.. i am pondering returning to an android qwerty, and am oh so tempted by a G2 (had the G1 back in the day).. or perhaps I will wait for a future qwerty to arrive..

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Just tested s2

I work in the phone industry and I just wanted to share my experience whilst playing with the s2 at samsung.
It a stuning piece of kit that makes the galaxy s retro
Things I can confirm
Tv out
Hdmi out
Amazing camera even for macro.
Super smooth and future OTA updates. Will post more son but please ask questions.
I would love to post pics but I hadn't got privileges yet. Maybe an administrator can help?
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Summery UK model
Launch date may 1st
1.2 Ghz exnyos processor
Super amoled plus screen
1gb ram
16 or 32gb varients
Working GPS
Tv out 3.5 jack (mirror)
Hdmi out via mhl cable (full mirror) sold separately
Better screen= better battery management
Battery lasts around a day and a half with average call useage and heavy emailing and browsing
HD voice compatible
NFC ready
Gingerbread 2.3. 3
Back cover is textured like the galaxy ace, has much better grip feels premium and no longer cheap
Cool, hope to see some pictures. Fill us in when you can - will ya?
upload your pics on imageshack and then give us the link
Well the things that I want to know personaly :
- Maybe some benchmarks results if you can (quadrant, nenamark) ? in order to see if drivers have been somewhat optimized for the GPU
- Which version of android was on the prototype you tested ? 2.3.1 or the latest 2.3.3?
- How is the web browser on heavy pages ? and withn flash content ? still smooth ?
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Galaxy s vs s2
Apologies for mr blurry. I used my phone had to take these photos swiftly. But please ask away
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Looks like the sun blocked the image but its running GB 2.3.3.
The phone I had was a uk version 16 gb model but can take a 64 gb sd card! Its also enyos processor.
I wasn't able to do a bench mark but we played flash games on it. Lag did not exist on this phone
I also have a release date but let me get permission first
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wow thanks a ton
Can't wait to get my hands on one when it's out
Questions
Can you post some pictures of benchmarks results?
How is the SGII compared to LG 2X?
Does your SGII have a 1.2 ghz processor? Link: gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii_dualcore_cpu_will_run_at_12_ghz-news-2491.php
Hey nice work!
Whats about the quality of the case does it feel cheap like SGS I or feels it better? Because the cover for the akku looks always very thin on the pics...
Did you mention anny lag during testing the phone (like slow programmstart or during switching the home screen...)
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Galaxy s vs s2
Apologies for mr blurry. I used my phone had to take these photos swiftly. But please ask away
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Hello, thx for sharing this information with us, how do you find the screen quality compared to samsung galaxy s?
do you mean the phone tv out through 3.5mm jack?because my tv dont have hdmi port.
and is there an"auto power up"setting in its alarm settings?
I can only confirm a few things. Don't wanna get my arse kicked
I can confirm
Screen pixalation very very high, fantastic for photos at long range or macro.
Internets smooth even with large heavy pages.
Text is crisp.
The samoled 2 has much better battery consumption compared to superamoled.
1.2 ghz dual exnyos proccessor
Phone feels much more premium, has textured back just like galaxy ace . Feels ready good in the hand it felt lighter than the galaxy s. Gotta get back to work
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this looks really nice. I hope the bootloader isnt locked!
Yes the galaxy s2 that we had had tv out via 3.5 jack and hdmi out via mhl usb.
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What a nice guy
GPS, GPS, GPS, did you get the chance to test the GPS?
Many thanks for you're comments & insight so far
Lol gps works. Locked on I under 5 seconds, wasn't able to drive with it. We had 3 units to play with. One of them got destroyed by accident......woops
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Hi, thanks for all these first-hand informations!
I don't want you to have troubles, but do you know if there's truth in the rumour of delays till june for the phone? I don't need a precise date, just give us the most precise information you are allowed to give
Thanks!
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I can only confirm a few things. Don't wanna get my arse kicked
I can confirm
Screen pixalation very very high, fantastic for photos at long range or macro.
1.2 ghz dual exnyos proccessor
Phone feels much more premium, has textured back just like galaxy ace . Feels ready good in the hand it felt lighter than the galaxy s. Gotta get back to work
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Wait a second, 1.2GHz?
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Wait a second, 1.2GHz?
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Yes !!!
Can you confirm please.
Are you able to test games? Dungeon defender ?
I can confirm that the phone had not been delayed. It will launch very soon
Yes 1.2 ghz dual core baby!!!
Dungeon defenders no problem. No lag. Even played a playstation title but thats all I can say on that story. Samsung really worked hard on this phone. Perfection.
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Will there be future flagship phones with physical keyboards?

We're about halfway into 2011. These days, it seems like all the new phones have no physical keyboards. At least, among the flagship devices. The Epic was the closest thing to a flagship keyboard phone recently, which was one of the biggest reasons I bought mine off ebay.
Do you think that the Epic and the Desire Z may represent some of the last high end phones with keyboards?
A few of the midrange devices still have them, but even then, the keyboard slider seems to be in decline. After trying swipe, better keyboard and a bunch of others, I found that SwiftKey was my favorite, but not a substitute for a physical keyboard.
Your thoughts?
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Yea there will always be devices with keyboards ... companies can't just overlook those consumers who prefer a physical keyboard they will most likely put something out for them
I'm sure there will be another top end phone with a keyboard. With all the different manufacturers and models of phones that come out on a regular basis, a few have to have features that differentiate it from another model. In other words, there will be always a market for some people who do PREFER a physical keyboard.
Hold on, let me check my crystal ball...
I hate the trend that Apple started. A smartphone without a keyboard is not a smart one. Its like typing on an old flip phone. Now all the new phones have to look thin and all so the engineers cut the keyboard.
When I see a new phone comeout without a keyboard...its "nneeeexxxtttt" for me.
Flagship=thin,fast,stable,sturdy
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Yep ... and something they could market as "new" "innovative" ... Like the Evo Branding ....
holographic slide-out
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This OR
Mind reading phone! Ikr
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My fone decided to screw up
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Unfortunately I'll never get to post anything on damnyouautocorrect.com Awwwwww....
Almost upgrade time for me. Unless they release something better than the shift in staying with the epic for a while.
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Sure as much wont be a samsung probably though... if so, maybe like 4-6months after our SGSII release. (within)
HTC high-end phone that doesn't look like every other HTC phone with a keyboard ?
In my dreams.
digiblur said:
I hate the trend that Apple started. A smartphone without a keyboard is not a smart one. Its like typing on an old flip phone. Now all the new phones have to look thin and all so the engineers cut the keyboard.
When I see a new phone comeout without a keyboard...its "nneeeexxxtttt" for me.
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They seem to have cut the battery too. For just a couple millimetres, you could get perhaps 1,000 more mAh?
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They seem to have cut the battery too. For just a couple millimetres, you could get perhaps 1,000 more mAh?
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Adding 1000mah would make the phone a LOT more than "a couple millimeters" thicker. Just look at the Epic with the 2800mah back:
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It nearly doubles the thickness of the phone and probably adds a lot of weight.
Maybe a centimeter? Perhaps a bit less looking at the image. I was thinking a partial redesign where the battery would be thinner, but the surface area bigger.
Either way, it seems these days ultra thin has become the trend, often at the expense of batteries and nowadays, the keyboard.
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Within a decade there prolly won't even have batteries for phones anymore. Scientist have discovered a cell that can create energy through breathing air. No bs if I had more details or a source I would share but I don't.
Droid 3. I'm pretty sure it has a slide out keyboard
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Droid 3. I'm pretty sure it has a slide out keyboard
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u forget that that phone is ugly as hell and will probaly the same hardware as the droid 1 and droid 2
Honestly was there any changes between 1 and 2?

[German Video] Galaxy Note vs HTC One X

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FxJb99E7Fhk
If only I could understand a word he speaks
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Is that stock note? Filled with bloatware and useless stuff that makes it so slow?
note for the win
I was really considering the One X before i watch this video (even though I don't have a clue what he is saying ) but after seeing this it's like there is a HUGE difference in screen size!!
I was thinking 0.6 wouldn't be that much to lose but it seems it is, damn you Note
Yeah I thought exactly the same but screen size on ONE X seems a lot smaller and I think we are all doomed to wait for Galaxy Note II or so!!!
I still say this phone is going to have major battery complaints.
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I still say this phone is going to have major battery complaints.
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That's what i said in the video ;-)
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That's what i said in the video ;-)
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Can you do the vid in english? Thank you.
My Note does everything I want to do, so I'm sticking with it. I buy for usabilty rather than specifications. I'd not be happy ●downgrading● to a smaller screen. Lol.
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Galaxy note i think still the best phone out there , it needs a beast to beat that phone
Galaxy note rocks for its supreme display
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I'm going to get One X when it is on sale in the UK and sell my Note. As much as I enjoy using the Note the last 5 months and still think the Note's screen and expendable memory is great benefit compared to the One X. I'm mainly changing for the 4.0 software shipped with HTC. Had Samsung kept their promise of ICS update by end of April, I'd be happy with keep on using Note, but I'm starting to get sick with general slowness of Gingerbread.
The pic alone should be sufficient to see how this comparison does not make any sense as all the others comparing the Note with "the rest"...
The Note is THE SOLE AND ONLY ACTUALLY USABLE SMARTPHONE TODAY, the One X is just one of the other countless, useless stupidphones I am no more interested in.
Most concerning part of htc one x is battery.
Does 1800 mAh battery will enough for 4.7inch device?
Note have 2500 mAh
One more thing i suspect is GPS, note have dual support gps + glonass, n thats y mote having marvelous gps fix, hardly i do have read complain about this, i think one x don't have glonass.
No memory card slot also annoying part for one x.
Some positive thing is powerful processor, n preinstalled ICS for htc x.
Overall i do stick with note only, if i explain just one reason, can't compromise screen size anymore.
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He basically put down some specs and display comparison. He has that the one x, has that outsticking camera is a minus for the phone since it more likely gonna scratch. He also said that the screen viewing angle is almost edge on edge but NOTE is slightly better. Both are fast phones. Also his conclusion is the HTC one x is a great phone smaller better pocketable but the Note is still the slightly better all around phone. But the size can be a issue with some. And I didn't translate it word for word just a short version.
Samsung Note
Ketan words made me remember some wise words:
Someone said: "Size don't matter".
Well, either this person had a small penis or didn't had a galaxy note.
I'm going to ask my Austrian friend to watch and translate the video.
dante501 said:
He basically put down some specs and display comparison. He has that the one x, has that outsticking camera is a minus for the phone since it more likely gonna scratch. He also said that the screen viewing angle is almost edge on edge but NOTE is slightly better. Both are fast phones. Also his conclusion is the HTC one x is a great phone smaller better pocketable but the Note is still the slightly better all around phone. But the size can be a issue with some. And I didn't translate it word for word just a short version.
Samsung Note
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Yeah, that's almost right - sorry, i do not own the phone, that was a hands-on with pre-series and i cannot make another english version.
Big update in the first post
i put some other comparison pics in the first post, also another video (but that one is more focused on the one x, only a short note comparison)
Have fun and the german here might follow www.allaboutsamsung.de on facebook.com/allaboutsamsung or twitter.com/allaboutsamsung

From G2 to One S... my take

I thought I'd cross post this coming from a G2 to a One S
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622439
Gracias sir.
Cheers for that, great read! Its between the Sensation XE, GSII and Galaxy Note for my next phone in the summer!
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Cheers for that, great read! Its between the Sensation XE, GSII and Galaxy Note for my next phone in the summer!
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I'm very interested in seeing how much the Note will cost on T-Mobile.
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Cheers for that, great read! Its between the Sensation XE, GSII and Galaxy Note for my next phone in the summer!
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why not the one s? i'm seriously considering moving/upgrading to the one s because i'm tired of people saying that my phone is "thick" and "heavy", so the one s is perfect for me
The thing about the one s, in the UK its REALLY expensive because it just came out, and doesn't have a micro sd slot... And id want a good battery, I've heard wonders about the note and the razr maxx!
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Didn't they say a black one is coming? Don't really like the bluish tinted one wish it came in white like the one x
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not persuaded from this review, they are mostly problems that can be solved by working some minutes on the phone...
IMO it's (one of) the best android phones out now. One X and tegra 3 doesn't appeal me... Samsung and LG are the worst brands imo...
Have a look at my optimus one... You may even notice some, just a bit, dust under the screen... this after one month...
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The thing about the one s, in the UK its REALLY expensive because it just came out, and doesn't have a micro sd slot... And id want a good battery, I've heard wonders about the note and the razr maxx!
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ditto here, i think i might wait too, so the price will fall a bit. and btw, you do realize that internal memory is faster than external, hence a better user experience ?
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ditto here, i think i might wait too, so the price will fall a bit. and btw, you do realize that internal memory is faster than external, hence a better user experience ?
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Yeah truee but i'll use most of it, i cant even manage my 16gb microsd AND internal space! I still want it though, price is honestly the only thing atm
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I think I might get a t989
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I'm also considering the HTC One S... but I will not be purchasing the grey/blue accent version. I've heard that the One S might be released in black/red accents later, likely related to the chipping that occurred to the international version with this MAO treatment. If anyone has any real news regarding the release of this version on US T-Mobile, please post here or start a thread... I follow TmoNews.com, but haven't read anything definitive yet.
Great read; only thing I missed was your reaction to the speed boost vs G2? What is your impression?
Thank you for mentioning that HTC should not name their web browser "Internet". Pet peeve of mine! There is an AOKP setting (I think it's AOKP?) that lets you use the volume up/down key when you have the IME keyboard out to move back/forward over the text input line. When that comes to your One S it should help ease backing up a few characters since you now lack a trackpad.
Your review speaks similarly to what mine would, I'm sure. Some of the reasons you speak of (and obviously, no QWERTY) are the reasons I am not buying one of these new flagship phones. IF there is a QWERTY and it completely blows or is locked down then I'll be considering moving to a non-qwerty phone, but let's be realistic here. New hardware and thinness do not matter. Those aren't new features, they're expected with new devices and aren't something that will add sway to me purchasing the device.
I think the SIII is pretty hideous, personally, and while I have a Samsung TV, I'm not the biggest fan of their mobile device build quality. That said, some of the features in the SIII are pretty badass. I dunno if I'd enable that feature that creepily detects my eyes, but I do dig the wireless charging amongst other things.
People are so blown away by the One S/X when they don't seem to realize that all new [flagship] devices coming out this year will have similar hardware.. so if that's the case, then why not wait a few months and see what else is announced? I guess I'm just old fashioned and tend to wait to see what the user reaction is to new devices, as well as the user/dev community, etc. Because those things matter!
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Thank you for mentioning that HTC should not name their web browser "Internet". Pet peeve of mine! There is an AOKP setting (I think it's AOKP?) that lets you use the volume up/down key when you have the IME keyboard out to move back/forward over the text input line. When that comes to your One S it should help ease backing up a few characters since you now lack a trackpad.
Your review speaks similarly to what mine would, I'm sure. Some of the reasons you speak of (and obviously, no QWERTY) are the reasons I am not buying one of these new flagship phones. IF there is a QWERTY and it completely blows or is locked down then I'll be considering moving to a non-qwerty phone, but let's be realistic here. New hardware and thinness do not matter. Those aren't new features, they're expected with new devices and aren't something that will add sway to me purchasing the device.
I think the SIII is pretty hideous, personally, and while I have a Samsung TV, I'm not the biggest fan of their mobile device build quality. That said, some of the features in the SIII are pretty badass. I dunno if I'd enable that feature that creepily detects my eyes, but I do dig the wireless charging amongst other things.
People are so blown away by the One S/X when they don't seem to realize that all new [flagship] devices coming out this year will have similar hardware.. so if that's the case, then why not wait a few months and see what else is announced? I guess I'm just old fashioned and tend to wait to see what the user reaction is to new devices, as well as the user/dev community, etc. Because those things matter!
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Couldn't have said it better.... for now I'll stick with my G2.
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Couldn't have said it better.... for now I'll stick with my G2.
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me too.
This thread made me realize that the one series are built in batteries.
Its so nice when your phone is dying and it takes only a few second to change the battery and go.
In school, I hate people saying "oh, dont play with my iphone too much, I need battery for the ride home".

leaked atrix 3 picture

it could be one of those
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in my opinion this really does look pretty i just dun like the place of the front camera
are you excited about the atrix 3?
Features(from a chinese website):
Tegra 3 processor
2GB of RAM
720p display
10MP camera with dual LED flash
Droid RAZR MAXX-level 3300mAh battery
source
Honestly, it kinda looks like a kirf droid. For AT&T's sake I hope the specs are amazing, we need a strong phone from Motorola .
Not a bit, but I do like that widget. Anybody know what it is?
It better have a tegra 3 and LTE support unlike the HTC one x.
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It better have a tegra 3 and LTE support unlike the HTC one x.
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No phone will have the tegra 3!!!! AT&T wants LTE and the tegra doesnt support it. Get over it. The S4 is better
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2 gig of ram, tegra 3 and LTE
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looks like lazr......
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stumpyz9 said:
No phone will have the tegra 3!!!! AT&T wants LTE and the tegra doesnt support it. Get over it. The S4 is better
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http://m.bgr.com/2012/05/24/tegra-3-4g-lte-compatibility-att-quad-core/
Atrix_Owner said:
http://m.bgr.com/2012/05/24/tegra-3-4g-lte-compatibility-att-quad-core/
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Ohh so it MIGHT get lte, still gunna suck
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stumpyz9 said:
Ohh so it MIGHT get lte, still gunna suck
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What's your problem dude?
The Atrix two was a dud in my eyes but I doubt the third is. I wish this would have came out sooner if true. Just bought a One X three weeks ago
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Carrier logo = no sale
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nvm, ****ty post XD
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I hope Atrix 3 bootloader isn't locked like Atrix 2. Would be even better if this was a Google Nexus device with Jelly Bean pre-loaded. Liking my Atrix 1 international (non-4G) a lot, especially cause its quad-band HSPA.
syl0n said:
I hope Atrix 3 bootloader isn't locked like Atrix 2. Would be even better if this was a Google Nexus device with Jelly Bean pre-loaded. Liking my Atrix 1 international (non-4G) a lot, especially cause its quad-band HSPA.
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keep dreaming lol
anyways about the phone, it kind of looks dull and boring adn the operator logo is there just to waste space? wouldnt it be smarter to put capacitive buttons there instead of wasting the part of the screen
crnkoj said:
keep dreaming lol
anyways about the phone, it kind of looks dull and boring adn the operator logo is there just to waste space? wouldnt it be smarter to put capacitive buttons there instead of wasting the part of the screen
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Capacitive buttons? Soft keys on the screen is a better option for ICS. However, I agree that the carrier logo is ugly as ****.
well, soft keys just waste space on the screen for instance look at the htc onex, lg optimus 4x, and the sgs3 . All have dedicated buttons (gotta say i dont like the hard home key on the sgs3 though), which looks better and more useful at least in my opinion
I'm holding out on a new phone with a fingerprint scanner on it, I use mine every day
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What a dreadfull waste of real estate.
On small screens mandatory eye candy (and badging) sucks.
Alcapone263 said:
I'm holding out on a new phone with a fingerprint scanner on it, I use mine every day
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Have fun waiting a very,very long time
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