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Been struggling with this question since it was out...The specs are mediocre and standard. Nothing "flagshippy" about them. The cam is both a deal-maker and deal-breaker for some.
But wondering if there is anything I am not seein there...
You don't need better specs for WP8 it will run perfectly smooth on the Lumia 920! The screen is amazing. Why should the camera be a dealbreaker? The design is very nice! You got exclusiv Lumia Apps so there's a lot more special about the 920 than only the camera.
I don't understand what you said not flagshippy? Based on what specs is your assumption.. The screen is awesome, the S4 chip is one of the best, wireless charging, good camera, free nav and so on...
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Been struggling with this question since it was out...The specs are mediocre and standard. Nothing "flagshippy" about them. The cam is both a deal-maker and deal-breaker for some.
But wondering if there is anything I am not seein there...
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Are you blind? Best screen, wireless charging, best camera, touch through gloves.. honestly the only thing not top of the line is the memory and processor and sadly the os.
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I'm an Android guy, but all these posts about the Lumia 920 being a disappointment confuse the heck out of me.
I just looked up a list of all Windows Phone devices, and here's what I gather about the 920 (compared to previous WP devices):
1 GB RAM, so far WP devices have had only 512 MB RAM tops
S4 SoC, a HUGE improvement over WP SoCs because after running through the entire list of WP devices the most advanced SoC so far has been the S2 Scorpion. I cannot even begin to explain how much of a gigantic leap the S4 is over the S2.
32 GB storage. Only ONE previous WP device has had 32 GB of storage.
EVERYTHING about the display. First 4.5" display on a WP device (not to say that it is the largest, as there have been 4.7" displays, but there has never been a 4.5" display on a WP device). 1280 x 768 resolution, a HUGE leap over the 480 x 800 resolution we have seen so far on WP devices. IPS display, so far the most advanced LCD display on a WP device has been SLCD. The display is just like the SoC: an absolutely gigantic leap over what we've seen so far in WP devices.
LTE support. So far it looks like only 3 WP devices have had LTE.
2000mAh battery. Previous record was 1830mAh.
Camera: let's get down to what's important and talk about something other than MP. Yes, it's 8.7 MP is nothing new, as the Titan II had a 16 MP rear camera. But anyone who knows anything about cameras knows it's about much more than just MP count. So: F/2.0 aperture, the lowest of any smartphone (to my knowledge the only other phone with such an f-stop is the One X), a 1/3 inch sensor (which is larger than the 1/3.2 inch sensor the iPhone 4S, One X, and GS3 all have, so effectively the largest sensor other than outliers like the 808 Pureview), backside illumination, and floating lens mechanical stabilization. BSI isn't new, but few WP phones have had it, and mechanical stabilization isn't new, but based on the video of it in action on a 920 (the actual footage Nokia released, not the ad), no company has ever developed such effective mechanical stabilization. Lastly, very high megapixel counts can actually decrease image quality for small sensor sizes, so it doesn't make much sense to stuff a 16+MP camera into smartphones when they have very small sensor sizes. Higher MP counts are important only when the sensor size correspondingly increases, and the increase from 8-8.7 MP seems like a good increase for a sensor size increase from 1/3.2 inches to 1/3 inches.
I'm not going to avoid the truth: the Lumia 920 represents a huge leap in WP hardware. I see almost nothing to complain about other than the lack of expandable storage. Previous WP phones ran damn smoothly with POS single-core S2 SoCs on earlier versions of WP, and now the Lumia 920 packs a dual-core S4 SoC running WP8. Goodness, if a GS3 runs smoothly with the S4 on ICS, how much of a performance beast will the 920 be given it has the S4 and runs the much faster WP8? The display is in every way a huge improvement over what WP devices have had. HUGE. Nokia claims it's the brightest smartphone display, to go along with all the other details about it that impress me. The camera should be downright impressive. Look up actual pictures the 920 has been demonstrated to take and it is very impressive, especially in low light.
My question: if the Lumia 920 is a disappointment to you, what exact changes would make it meet your hopes? An even larger battery? An even denser display? Quad-core processor? We all know the lack of removable storage is a bummer, but what other things were you hoping for that have let you down?
What he said...
WOW you went ape sh*t with this response. Need more people like you around. Keep up the work
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The Janitor Mop said:
I'm an Android guy, but all these posts about the Lumia 920 being a disappointment confuse the heck out of me.
I just looked up a list of all Windows Phone devices, and here's what I gather about the 920 (compared to previous WP devices):
1 GB RAM, so far WP devices have had only 512 MB RAM tops
S4 SoC, a HUGE improvement over WP SoCs because after running through the entire list of WP devices the most advanced SoC so far has been the S2 Scorpion. I cannot even begin to explain how much of a gigantic leap the S4 is over the S2.
32 GB storage. Only ONE previous WP device has had 32 GB of storage.
EVERYTHING about the display. First 4.5" display on a WP device (not to say that it is the largest, as there have been 4.7" displays, but there has never been a 4.5" display on a WP device). 1280 x 768 resolution, a HUGE leap over the 480 x 800 resolution we have seen so far on WP devices. IPS display, so far the most advanced LCD display on a WP device has been SLCD. The display is just like the SoC: an absolutely gigantic leap over what we've seen so far in WP devices.
LTE support. So far it looks like only 3 WP devices have had LTE.
2000mAh battery. Previous record was 1830mAh.
Camera: let's get down to what's important and talk about something other than MP. Yes, it's 8.7 MP is nothing new, as the Titan II had a 16 MP rear camera. But anyone who knows anything about cameras knows it's about much more than just MP count. So: F/2.0 aperture, the lowest of any smartphone (to my knowledge the only other phone with such an f-stop is the One X), a 1/3 inch sensor (which is larger than the 1/3.2 inch sensor the iPhone 4S, One X, and GS3 all have, so effectively the largest sensor other than outliers like the 808 Pureview), backside illumination, and floating lens mechanical stabilization. BSI isn't new, but few WP phones have had it, and mechanical stabilization isn't new, but based on the video of it in action on a 920 (the actual footage Nokia released, not the ad), no company has ever developed such effective mechanical stabilization. Lastly, very high megapixel counts can actually decrease image quality for small sensor sizes, so it doesn't make much sense to stuff a 16+MP camera into smartphones when they have very small sensor sizes. Higher MP counts are important only when the sensor size correspondingly increases, and the increase from 8-8.7 MP seems like a good increase for a sensor size increase from 1/3.2 inches to 1/3 inches.
I'm not going to avoid the truth: the Lumia 920 represents a huge leap in WP hardware. I see almost nothing to complain about other than the lack of expandable storage. Previous WP phones ran damn smoothly with POS single-core S2 SoCs on earlier versions of WP, and now the Lumia 920 packs a dual-core S4 SoC running WP8. Goodness, if a GS3 runs smoothly with the S4 on ICS, how much of a performance beast will the 920 be given it has the S4 and runs the much faster WP8? The display is in every way a huge improvement over what WP devices have had. HUGE. Nokia claims it's the brightest smartphone display, to go along with all the other details about it that impress me. The camera should be downright impressive. Look up actual pictures the 920 has been demonstrated to take and it is very impressive, especially in low light.
My question: if the Lumia 920 is a disappointment to you, what exact changes would make it meet your hopes? An even larger battery? An even denser display? Quad-core processor? We all know the lack of removable storage is a bummer, but what other things were you hoping for that have let you down?
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:highfive: Great post. Still cannot believe some think this is no better then previous phones.
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I don't understand what you said not flagshippy? Based on what specs is your assumption.. The screen is awesome, the S4 chip is one of the best, wireless charging, good camera, free nav and so on...
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Great camera, the screen has higher ppi than almost anything out there, has the highest resolution and the design is gorgeous and a crappy one.
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Are you blind? Best screen, wireless charging, best camera, touch through gloves.. honestly the only thing not top of the line is the memory and processor and sadly the os.
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OS is top of the line, and ram is sufficient for now. 2 GB would have been better, but if you see people with iphones running out of memory, I dont think that will happen on windows phone either.
circleofomega said:
Been struggling with this question since it was out...The specs are mediocre and standard. Nothing "flagshippy" about them. The cam is both a deal-maker and deal-breaker for some.
But wondering if there is anything I am not seein there...
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Unlike android, windows phone does not require as much resources, because windows phone is optimized to run on standardized hardware (just like the iPhone, even though the hardware varies more on WP). You can look at android as the jack of all trades, master of none.
The amount of functionality these new windows phones can achieve is stunning. They can offer the same and much more compared to android due to their excellent hardware optimization, the awesome developing tools (present in 7.5, now they got even better), top of the line sensors and chipsets, and much, much more.
Hell, you can even play computer games on them.
It has lamborghini yellow. That trumps EVERYTHING.
The Janitor Mop said:
I'm an Android guy, but all these posts about the Lumia 920 being a disappointment confuse the heck out of me.
I just looked up a list of all Windows Phone devices, and here's what I gather about the 920 (compared to previous WP devices):
1 GB RAM, so far WP devices have had only 512 MB RAM tops
S4 SoC, a HUGE improvement over WP SoCs because after running through the entire list of WP devices the most advanced SoC so far has been the S2 Scorpion. I cannot even begin to explain how much of a gigantic leap the S4 is over the S2.
32 GB storage. Only ONE previous WP device has had 32 GB of storage.
EVERYTHING about the display. First 4.5" display on a WP device (not to say that it is the largest, as there have been 4.7" displays, but there has never been a 4.5" display on a WP device). 1280 x 768 resolution, a HUGE leap over the 480 x 800 resolution we have seen so far on WP devices. IPS display, so far the most advanced LCD display on a WP device has been SLCD. The display is just like the SoC: an absolutely gigantic leap over what we've seen so far in WP devices.
LTE support. So far it looks like only 3 WP devices have had LTE.
2000mAh battery. Previous record was 1830mAh.
Camera: let's get down to what's important and talk about something other than MP. Yes, it's 8.7 MP is nothing new, as the Titan II had a 16 MP rear camera. But anyone who knows anything about cameras knows it's about much more than just MP count. So: F/2.0 aperture, the lowest of any smartphone (to my knowledge the only other phone with such an f-stop is the One X), a 1/3 inch sensor (which is larger than the 1/3.2 inch sensor the iPhone 4S, One X, and GS3 all have, so effectively the largest sensor other than outliers like the 808 Pureview), backside illumination, and floating lens mechanical stabilization. BSI isn't new, but few WP phones have had it, and mechanical stabilization isn't new, but based on the video of it in action on a 920 (the actual footage Nokia released, not the ad), no company has ever developed such effective mechanical stabilization. Lastly, very high megapixel counts can actually decrease image quality for small sensor sizes, so it doesn't make much sense to stuff a 16+MP camera into smartphones when they have very small sensor sizes. Higher MP counts are important only when the sensor size correspondingly increases, and the increase from 8-8.7 MP seems like a good increase for a sensor size increase from 1/3.2 inches to 1/3 inches.
I'm not going to avoid the truth: the Lumia 920 represents a huge leap in WP hardware. I see almost nothing to complain about other than the lack of expandable storage. Previous WP phones ran damn smoothly with POS single-core S2 SoCs on earlier versions of WP, and now the Lumia 920 packs a dual-core S4 SoC running WP8. Goodness, if a GS3 runs smoothly with the S4 on ICS, how much of a performance beast will the 920 be given it has the S4 and runs the much faster WP8? The display is in every way a huge improvement over what WP devices have had. HUGE. Nokia claims it's the brightest smartphone display, to go along with all the other details about it that impress me. The camera should be downright impressive. Look up actual pictures the 920 has been demonstrated to take and it is very impressive, especially in low light.
My question: if the Lumia 920 is a disappointment to you, what exact changes would make it meet your hopes? An even larger battery? An even denser display? Quad-core processor? We all know the lack of removable storage is a bummer, but what other things were you hoping for that have let you down?
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Ok....Firstly, a sincere thanks. Secondly, I admit I was quick to react as, yes, you said it, a quad core, more RAM and a slighlt higher MP cam would have been better.
What I overlooked was the fact that WP DOESN'T need a monster of a hardware backing. YEs. That IS true. I have used HTC HD7 and it was as fast on the last day as it was on first. And that too on the specs it ran on at that time.
Today, to be very very honest, my RaZr does lag sometimes. It all depends, on day one of flashing a new ROM, everything is fast and snappy. But the moment it settles down a bit, slow...lag..
So...I have to admit, the Lumia IS top of the line HW with of course amazing OS.
Thanks all you guys for your replies.
circleofomega said:
Ok....Firstly, a sincere thanks. Secondly, I admit I was quick to react as, yes, you said it, a quad core, more RAM and a slighlt higher MP cam would have been better.
What I overlooked was the fact that WP DOESN'T need a monster of a hardware backing. YEs. That IS true. I have used HTC HD7 and it was as fast on the last day as it was on first. And that too on the specs it ran on at that time.
Today, to be very very honest, my RaZr does lag sometimes. It all depends, on day one of flashing a new ROM, everything is fast and snappy. But the moment it settles down a bit, slow...lag..
So...I have to admit, the Lumia IS top of the line HW with of course amazing OS.
Thanks all you guys for your replies.
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Higher MP count camera: I already pointed out that more MP can actually decrease image quality for cameras with small sensors, and camera phones represent virtually the smallest sensor sizes in the camera world. Do some research and you will find out that the extra MP in phone cameras like the Titan II only result in extra noise in the image. Again, the 920 has a slightly larger sensor size than the next biggest sensor sizes in other top phones (GS3, iPhone 4S, One X), and it makes sense to slightly increase MP count from 8-8.7 MP. Image quality in the end is all that matters, and if 8.7 MP truly is the sweet spot for this camera, then by all means don't give us more MP Nokia.
More RAM: I hardly see this as a point to complain about because the majority of new phones even today still just have 1 MB RAM. Only the very newest Android phones are starting to be released with 2 GB RAM. So, the 920 is doubling the RAM WP devices have (from 512 MB to 1 GB) just like the newest Android phones are doubling from 1 GB to 2 GB. Furthermore, a lot of people are arguing quite convincingly that it's virtually impossible to tell if 2 GB RAM is actually having a noticeable impact on performance of their devices. 1 GB really is sufficient RAM even for an Android. And what's sufficient for an Android phone is overkill for a WP8 device, as much as I hate to admit that as an Android guy.
Quad-core: there are several reasons it's pointless as of right now to hope for quad-core in a WP8 device. First is the fact that very few devices, even Androids, are releasing with quad-cores. Second is the fact that the devices that are being released with quad-cores have quad-cores that aren't worth your time, such as Tegra 3 and Exynos 4412. They're both last gen Cortex-A9 processors. The only quad-core on the near horizon worth your time is the S4 Pro with Adreno 320. I'll say it again: if you really want a quad-core device, the processor you should be waiting for is the S4 Pro. And it's unreasonable to expect it right now because the ONLY phone that has been announced with it so far has been the LG Optimus G. AND on top of that the S4 Pro is expected to be in very limited supply. So it's unreasonable to expect S4 Pro on ANY device released in the next few months (save for the LG, who probably pulled more string than a puppeteer to get them), and EVEN MORE unreasonable to expect it on a WP8 device on which it would be total overkill. If you expect Nokia to give you S4 Pro on the 920 they'll say fine, you can twiddle your thumbs as the release gets pushed back to somewhere in 2013.
Edit: there's something else on top of everything else I just said. I don't know much about WP, but it's entirely possible that WP8 is specifically optimized for dual-core processors. Android's multi-core support is designed to work well with both dual-cores and quad-cores (and theoretically what's beyond), but with MS's tighter grip on the standards for hardware being produced for WP, it is definitely possible that they designed WP8 to be a beast specifically with dual-cores. There's the S4 right now, and there will soon be Cortex-A15 dual-cores coming out in the Exynos and OMAP lines, so if MS did design for dual-core the manufacturers will have a nice selection of next gen dual-cores to work with.
The Janitor Mop said:
Higher MP count camera: I already pointed out that more MP can actually decrease image quality for cameras with small sensors, and camera phones represent virtually the smallest sensor sizes in the camera world. Do some research and you will find out that the extra MP in phone cameras like the Titan II only result in extra noise in the image. Again, the 920 has a slightly larger sensor size than the next biggest sensor sizes in other top phones (GS3, iPhone 4S, One X), and it makes sense to slightly increase MP count from 8-8.7 MP. Image quality in the end is all that matters, and if 8.7 MP truly is the sweet spot for this camera, then by all means don't give us more MP Nokia.
More RAM: I hardly see this as a point to complain about because the majority of new phones even today still just have 1 MB RAM. Only the very newest Android phones are starting to be released with 2 GB RAM. So, the 920 is doubling the RAM WP devices have (from 512 MB to 1 GB) just like the newest Android phones are doubling from 1 GB to 2 GB. Furthermore, a lot of people are arguing quite convincingly that it's virtually impossible to tell if 2 GB RAM is actually having a noticeable impact on performance of their devices. 1 GB really is sufficient RAM even for an Android. And what's sufficient for an Android phone is overkill for a WP8 device, as much as I hate to admit that as an Android guy.
Quad-core: there are several reasons it's pointless as of right now to hope for quad-core in a WP8 device. First is the fact that very few devices, even Androids, are releasing with quad-cores. Second is the fact that the devices that are being released with quad-cores have quad-cores that aren't worth your time, such as Tegra 3 and Exynos 4412. They're both last gen Cortex-A9 processors. The only quad-core on the near horizon worth your time is the S4 Pro with Adreno 320. I'll say it again: if you really want a quad-core device, the processor you should be waiting for is the S4 Pro. And it's unreasonable to expect it right now because the ONLY phone that has been announced with it so far has been the LG Optimus G. AND on top of that the S4 Pro is expected to be in very limited supply. So it's unreasonable to expect S4 Pro on ANY device released in the next few months (save for the LG, who probably pulled more string than a puppeteer to get them), and EVEN MORE unreasonable to expect it on a WP8 device on which it would be total overkill. If you expect Nokia to give you S4 Pro on the 920 they'll say fine, you can twiddle your thumbs as the release gets pushed back to somewhere in 2013.
Edit: there's something else on top of everything else I just said. I don't know much about WP, but it's entirely possible that WP8 is specifically optimized for dual-core processors. Android's multi-core support is designed to work well with both dual-cores and quad-cores (and theoretically what's beyond), but with MS's tighter grip on the standards for hardware being produced for WP, it is definitely possible that they designed WP8 to be a beast specifically with dual-cores. There's the S4 right now, and there will soon be Cortex-A15 dual-cores coming out in the Exynos and OMAP lines, so if MS did design for dual-core the manufacturers will have a nice selection of next gen dual-cores to work with.
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WHOA MAN!!! I seriously am impressed. You say u don't know much about WP? Are u kidding me..I got to learn soooo much from you ...seriously thanks a ton...
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The Janitor Mop said:
I'm an Android guy, but all these posts about the Lumia 920 being a disappointment confuse the heck out of me.
I just looked up a list of all Windows Phone devices, and here's what I gather about the 920 (compared to previous WP devices):
1 GB RAM, so far WP devices have had only 512 MB RAM tops
S4 SoC, a HUGE improvement over WP SoCs because after running through the entire list of WP devices the most advanced SoC so far has been the S2 Scorpion. I cannot even begin to explain how much of a gigantic leap the S4 is over the S2.
32 GB storage. Only ONE previous WP device has had 32 GB of storage.
EVERYTHING about the display. First 4.5" display on a WP device (not to say that it is the largest, as there have been 4.7" displays, but there has never been a 4.5" display on a WP device). 1280 x 768 resolution, a HUGE leap over the 480 x 800 resolution we have seen so far on WP devices. IPS display, so far the most advanced LCD display on a WP device has been SLCD. The display is just like the SoC: an absolutely gigantic leap over what we've seen so far in WP devices.
LTE support. So far it looks like only 3 WP devices have had LTE.
2000mAh battery. Previous record was 1830mAh.
Camera: let's get down to what's important and talk about something other than MP. Yes, it's 8.7 MP is nothing new, as the Titan II had a 16 MP rear camera. But anyone who knows anything about cameras knows it's about much more than just MP count. So: F/2.0 aperture, the lowest of any smartphone (to my knowledge the only other phone with such an f-stop is the One X), a 1/3 inch sensor (which is larger than the 1/3.2 inch sensor the iPhone 4S, One X, and GS3 all have, so effectively the largest sensor other than outliers like the 808 Pureview), backside illumination, and floating lens mechanical stabilization. BSI isn't new, but few WP phones have had it, and mechanical stabilization isn't new, but based on the video of it in action on a 920 (the actual footage Nokia released, not the ad), no company has ever developed such effective mechanical stabilization. Lastly, very high megapixel counts can actually decrease image quality for small sensor sizes, so it doesn't make much sense to stuff a 16+MP camera into smartphones when they have very small sensor sizes. Higher MP counts are important only when the sensor size correspondingly increases, and the increase from 8-8.7 MP seems like a good increase for a sensor size increase from 1/3.2 inches to 1/3 inches.
I'm not going to avoid the truth: the Lumia 920 represents a huge leap in WP hardware. I see almost nothing to complain about other than the lack of expandable storage. Previous WP phones ran damn smoothly with POS single-core S2 SoCs on earlier versions of WP, and now the Lumia 920 packs a dual-core S4 SoC running WP8. Goodness, if a GS3 runs smoothly with the S4 on ICS, how much of a performance beast will the 920 be given it has the S4 and runs the much faster WP8? The display is in every way a huge improvement over what WP devices have had. HUGE. Nokia claims it's the brightest smartphone display, to go along with all the other details about it that impress me. The camera should be downright impressive. Look up actual pictures the 920 has been demonstrated to take and it is very impressive, especially in low light.
My question: if the Lumia 920 is a disappointment to you, what exact changes would make it meet your hopes? An even larger battery? An even denser display? Quad-core processor? We all know the lack of removable storage is a bummer, but what other things were you hoping for that have let you down?
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Excellent post, the 920 will definitely be my next phone (unless HTC produce a very special rabbit from a hat!)
I am currently using SGS III (my 7th high end droid over the years), and in all probability it will be my last android phone. Mainly because, over the years I have never found a single droid which was stable / solid performer day in/day out. The issues I faced ranges from un-explainable reboots, hang ups, slow downs/sluggishness etc. etc. So from my experience I'd say most droids have excellent hardware, but extremely crappy OS, which also have iOS's copycat UI (only inferior), but that is just my personal opinion.
To sum up android (thanks to user on another forum):
"Android suffers the Linux** disease of being really interesting for a little while, followed by tears of boredom. When all that's left to talk about is the hardware (read: almost every Android vs. Others comparison is purely hardware-focused), it's clear the OS has lost its charm."
So long and the short of it, I was thinking about going back to iPhone, but then I got my hands on Lumia 800, and having tried it for 2+ months, I think WP is the most efficient*, responsive, and stable mobile OS (I don't really use too many apps, so I don't really care about lower number in WP app store). So I will be getting either Samsung ATIV S or Nokia Lumia 920 (most likely I'll go with 920, as Nokia updates/rolles out new stuff for its phones much quicker compared to Samsung).
* Lumia 800 easily defeated my older droids ie SGS2/Sensation in performance as well.
** I am a Windows 7+Win8x64/Linux user myself.
I currently switch between an HTC One X and an HTC Titan, android has its plus points, but it can be a real pain in the arse, for example sometimes the onex will load up some medoa server thing which eats the battery in about 45 minutes, sometimes the home screen will freeze on loading, if I go too long without rebooting the whole phone slows down and becomes sluggish. No such problems with my Titan! I will be getting me a Lumia 920 as soon as they are released, the Titan will be my spare phone and the onex is going on ebay....
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I am currently using SGS III (my 7th high end droid over the years), and in all probability it will be my last android phone. Mainly because, over the years I have never found a single droid which was stable / solid performer day in/day out. The issues I faced ranges from un-explainable reboots, hang ups, slow downs/sluggishness etc. etc. So from my experience I'd say most droids have excellent hardware, but extremely crappy OS, which also have iOS's copycat UI (only inferior), but that is just my personal opinion.
To sum up android (thanks to user on another forum):
"Android suffers the Linux** disease of being really interesting for a little while, followed by tears of boredom. When all that's left to talk about is the hardware (read: almost every Android vs. Others comparison is purely hardware-focused), it's clear the OS has lost its charm."
So long and the short of it, I was thinking about going back to iPhone, but then I got my hands on Lumia 800, and having tried it for 2+ months, I think WP is the most efficient*, responsive, and stable mobile OS (I don't really use too many apps, so I don't really care about lower number in WP app store). So I will be getting either Samsung ATIV S or Nokia Lumia 920 (most likely I'll go with 920, as Nokia updates/rolles out new stuff for its phones much quicker compared to Samsung).
* Lumia 800 easily defeated my older droids ie SGS2/Sensation in performance as well.
** I am a Windows 7+Win8x64/Linux user myself.
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A lot of what you said is how I feel. Android is a lot of fun and I love flashing new ROMs on my Sensation, but it really fails to be something that performs consistently all the time. It is a strange OS that has a ton of quirks and above all else is the least efficient major mobile OS. iOS and WP don't require the same hardware Android does in order to perform well. I was absolutely shocked when I found that the top range WP devices so far have been using an outdated, single-core S2 Snapdragon processor. My Sensation, with a dual-core S3 Snapdragon, and with custom ROMs and overclocked, still lags, stutters, gets hung up trying to leave an app or switch apps, and overall is a less than pleasant experience. Meanwhile, WP devices are blazing smooth on hardware that is several notches below what even midrange Androids have.
To be fair, Jelly Bean is a really good improvement to Android and I think it has established Android as a legitimate player against the next iPhone and WP8. I have yet to try a JB ROM (we have a CM10 ROM and AOKP JB that are both beta-quality), but if it really does eliminate lag I'll be impressed, because I'm not expecting that it will be able to eliminate all the hiccups that my phone tends to have.
WP8 appeals to me as something that will work out of the box, be a steady and powerful performer, offer something different, and I like the idea of having Windows 8 on my laptop and a WP8 phone. I'm like you, I don't use very many apps at all. Give me a good calendar, browser, note app, FB/Instagram, map/nav app, mail app, music apps, news apps, office apps (which is where I would imagine WP would excel lol), and other useful things like banking apps and I'm good to go. Otherwise, my Sensation is filled with games I don't play much and aren't necessary, recovery and backup apps for flashing ROMs, random benchmarks which aren't necessary, performance apps that monitor battery and CPU and stuff that aren't necessary, and other fluff I can do without.
You guys can make that 3.
I too hold a "flagship" Droid right now. But does it lag? Sure. Do I get lost in finding what I want to in the heaps and heaps of apps...? Sure. Do I have tons of games on my SD card which I don't play? Sure.
Is my SD card clogged with more ROMs than pics of my lovely wife? Yes.
Do I spend more time flashing those ROMs than be with my loved ones? Absolutely. Do I open my "app drawer" and just forget what I came here for? Yes...YES YES!
Am I scared with the security this OS gives me for my data? Yes.
Sent from my DROID RaZr.
Lol. I'm not for sure going to switch to WP8, because I still have a bit less than a year of my contract with my Sensation, and I only have very limited actual experience with WP8. By the time march-april rolls around next year, though, there better either be a new amazing Nexus or rumors of an upcoming amazing Nexus with Key Lime Pie or else I'll probably end up with the best WP8 device T-Mobile has to offer. And realistically I wouldn't be surprised if we start to see things like quad-core processors in WP8 devices by that time, so they should be pretty amazing.
Hi everyone,i am in the market for a new phone.
I have been following general reviews of Htc one and Samsung galaxy s4, but in the end i always liked the htc one for its build quality, expecially considering that i owned the Google htc nexus one, that recently broke down.
The problem with the Htc one is the cost. I personally think spending more than 400 euros on a phone is foolish,and both the Htc one and Samsung s4 cost 699 euro, just way too much.I would fear carrying it around, and dropping it, or even scratching in anyway.
and thus i am looking at the Oppo find 5 and its general build quality, great screen,quite powerful, rom support and everything.
And in the other hand, i am also looking at the Huawei Ascend P6 (pictured), which has:
Quadcore 1,5 Ghz
2 gb ram
720 x 1280 pixels (321 ppi)
8 mpx back camera which records 1920x1080 (1080p HD) + 5 mpx frontal
removeable microsd card, and supports microhdsc
Fast mobile data support (4G)
4.7 inches display, (120 g)
2000 mAh battery
for 399 euros.
Considering this, i would like some suggestions or advice on why is the Oppo find 5 better or worse than the other contenders, and what did you like the most about your Find 5, how do you use it.
I am also interested...
purerebelm1ko said:
Hi everyone,i am in the market for a new phone.
I have been following general reviews of Htc one and Samsung galaxy s4, but in the end i always liked the htc one for its build quality, expecially considering that i owned the Google htc nexus one, that recently broke down.
The problem with the Htc one is the cost. I personally think spending more than 400 euros on a phone is foolish,and both the Htc one and Samsung s4 cost 699 euro, just way too much.I would fear carrying it around, and dropping it, or even scratching in anyway.
and thus i am looking at the Oppo find 5 and its general build quality, great screen,quite powerful, rom support and everything.
And in the other hand, i am also looking at the Huawei Ascend P6 (pictured), which has:
Quadcore 1,5 Ghz
2 gb ram
720 x 1280 pixels (321 ppi)
8 mpx back camera which records 1920x1080 (1080p HD) + 5 mpx frontal
removeable microsd card, and supports microhdsc
Fast mobile data support (4G)
4.7 inches display, (120 g)
2000 mAh battery
for 399 euros.
Considering this, i would like some suggestions or advice on why is the Oppo find 5 better or worse than the other contenders, and what did you like the most about your Find 5, how do you use it.
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I am also interested in this...
In particular, I hear a lot talking about the bad quality of the camera on the Oppo Find 5. The camera is for me very important. Do you guys think it will really improve with the updates? Is it true that at the moment the quality is very bad in low light conditions and that the camera app does not have a lot of functionalities?
Another issue would be software optimisation... I read on this forum some people are complaining about heavy lags. I think this is pretty annoying for a 400 euros device...
Many thanks for your time.
purerebelm1ko said:
Hi everyone,i am in the market for a new phone.
I have been following general reviews of Htc one and Samsung galaxy s4, but in the end i always liked the htc one for its build quality, expecially considering that i owned the Google htc nexus one, that recently broke down.
The problem with the Htc one is the cost. I personally think spending more than 400 euros on a phone is foolish,and both the Htc one and Samsung s4 cost 699 euro, just way too much.I would fear carrying it around, and dropping it, or even scratching in anyway.
and thus i am looking at the Oppo find 5 and its general build quality, great screen,quite powerful, rom support and everything.
And in the other hand, i am also looking at the Huawei Ascend P6 (pictured), which has:
Quadcore 1,5 Ghz
2 gb ram
720 x 1280 pixels (321 ppi)
8 mpx back camera which records 1920x1080 (1080p HD) + 5 mpx frontal
removeable microsd card, and supports microhdsc
Fast mobile data support (4G)
4.7 inches display, (120 g)
2000 mAh battery
for 399 euros.
Considering this, i would like some suggestions or advice on why is the Oppo find 5 better or worse than the other contenders, and what did you like the most about your Find 5, how do you use it.
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what??
Ascend P6:
- CPU: Huawei K3V2E (whats this? noname shi* like Samsung Exynos)
- GPU: ???
- only 3G with 21,6 Mbps
- no LTE, no NFC
- Bluetooth 3.0
- only 8MP cam from ???
- no WLAN 802.11a or a/c
- 4,7" with 720x1280
- 2000mAh
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Oppo Find 5:
- CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro APQ8064
- GPU: Adreno 320
- full 3G (HSDPA+) with 42 Mbps
- no LTE
- Bluetooth 4.0
- 13MP cam from Sony
- no WLAN 802.11a/c
- 5" with 1080x1920 FullHD
- 2500mAh
sorry, here's what seems to be the full specs of the ascend p6
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_ascend_p6-5467.php
"only 3G with 21,6 Mbps"
i wont be using the 3g internet, its too slow anyway where i live, and too expensive.
" Bluetooth 3.0"
what's the difference between 3.0 and 4.0.
anyone, please explain
camera suggestion
Well, for the camera, I think Oppo is working to fix that, but in the meantime you can use an app called ProCapture, which takes very high quality, uncompressed pictures. In the official oppo forums, you can see comparisons And I was in the same boat as you, doing research, and comparing prices, on used versions of the phones on Swappa. I was very much leaning towards HTC One myself. But In the end I took a chance to go with an Oppo F5. It arrives wednesday, comes with all accessories, and 3 cases. And I still have money to buy a few extra stuff for it Good luck with your choice!
Hi I recently got a white Oppo Find 5 and I will try to answer your question. I root all my phones and run AOKP or CM10 cause i think I am cool.
In the past year I have gone from:
Samsung Galaxy Nexus (unlocked) >
Nexus 4 >
Note II >
Fonepad >
Note II >
Oppo Find 5
Of these the nexus 4 has the best design, but not easy to use. It always slid off my lap, crappy data, other probs
The galaxy nexus had the best software, it ran ICS like a ****ing champ, no lag, no crashes, butter.
The Note II was the best daily driver, a good balance of battery life, software, build quality.
However the Oppo feels the best in my hand. The screen is the best I have seen on a phone. When I show it to people, it gets the reaction the first galaxy got. "That is a bright screen". In broad daylight, with polarized sunglasses on, I have no trouble seeing the screen. BEST ****ING PHONE FOR SUMMER 2013 FOR THIS REASON. That and everyone thinks its a sony lol. The battery life sort of sucks, my unofficial taste-test says it is about the same as the Nexus 4.
If you need battery life or you want something a little more "Mainstream", get a note II or the HTC one x+, both have some recent hardware and can be found for $350 USD used.
Good luck!
farberstyle said:
Hi I recently got a white Oppo Find 5 and I will try to answer your question. I root all my phones and run AOKP or CM10 cause i think I am cool.
In the past year I have gone from:
Samsung Galaxy Nexus (unlocked) >
Nexus 4 >
Note II >
Fonepad >
Note II >
Oppo Find 5
Of these the nexus 4 has the best design, but not easy to use. It always slid off my lap, crappy data, other probs
The galaxy nexus had the best software, it ran ICS like a ****ing champ, no lag, no crashes, butter.
The Note II was the best daily driver, a good balance of battery life, software, build quality.
However the Oppo feels the best in my hand. The screen is the best I have seen on a phone. When I show it to people, it gets the reaction the first galaxy got. "That is a bright screen". In broad daylight, with polarized sunglasses on, I have no trouble seeing the screen. BEST ****ING PHONE FOR SUMMER 2013 FOR THIS REASON. That and everyone thinks its a sony lol. The battery life sort of sucks, my unofficial taste-test says it is about the same as the Nexus 4.
If you need battery life or you want something a little more "Mainstream", get a note II or the HTC one x+, both have some recent hardware and can be found for $350 USD used.
Good luck!
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The battery life varies, I have been using the original firmware for about 3 days now after trying out CM 10.1 which has a better battery life BUT it loses signal and the camera is only using 5 megapixels. They(CM) is working on all this and trust me...they will have a bad ass rom once they are through.
I am honestly waiting on the final release of Firefly to be released and then i will really decide on whether or not to keep this phone. I love the built quality and it has a lot of potential, BUT potential doesn't make you a winner. I have patience though, and will wait.
If not I am either going back to the Nexus 4, or getting an Xperia Z.
Hello,
With this being talked about now, what will your realistic Project Ara phone have?
Mine is pretty simple:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz
Adreno 330 450MHz
2 GB RAM
3.8 V 2300 mAh, 8 Wh, Qi wireless charging
Slide out QWERTY physical keyboard
4.96 in (126 mm) diagonal IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (1080×1920 px (444 ppi))
8 MP with OIS, f/2.4 aperture and Xenon flash.
1.3 MP Front Camera
3.5 mm TRRS
GPS
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.0
NFC
Infrared port
Every damn radio band so I can use GSM/3G/4G all over the world
Now that I look at it, this phone sounds pretty familiar.........
My price range would be $400 - $500
What about you?
Also, lets keep it realistic, real (no transformer from phone to PC or fantasy crap) and considering phone/budget of each person. Basically what Project Ara is really about and can offer.
Im editing the title again: Please keep it realistic Who knows what people are reading this thread. If we post things like 8K resolution screen phones for 200 bucks, we cannot keep this realist.c
I'd be willing to pay up to $600 for a device with 8GB of internal storage with an external storage option, a 21Mp camera with OIS and various low light optimizations, It needs to be at least dual core running at no less than 1.8 Ghz, it needs 2Gb of RAM, an adreno 330 GPU, a 4.7in screen with a resolution that's above 720p, wireless charging, ALL the radios!, wifi 80211ac, a front camera that has 720p recording and is at least 1.3mp, extremely tunable audio quality, and a slightly curved screen.
Sparx639 said:
I'd be willing to pay up to $600 for a device with 8GB of internal storage with an external storage option, a 21Mp camera with OIS and various low light optimizations, It needs to be at least dual core running at no less than 1.8 Ghz, it needs 2Gb of RAM, an adreno 330 GPU, a 4.7in screen with a resolution that's above 720p, wireless charging, ALL the radios!, wifi 80211ac, a front camera that has 720p recording and is at least 1.3mp, extremely tunable audio quality, and a slightly curved screen.
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Just asking for a good DAC and a curved screen will shoot it up more than $600
I based off mine a existing phone and depending on that raised the price compared to it...
For me:
Top-line specs (cpu ram etc...)
But the extra stuff i would buy into it is a good DAC (digital analog converter). I like to hear quality music.
And a best of the bests camera with a big and fast sensor (maybe foveon x3), 3diagonal OIS, led+xenon AND full manual control in it's software. I want to control shutter speed, ISO, explosure, OIS on/off, timer, intervalometer, HDR, brust mode, pixel oversampling and RAW capturing.
I don't want to take photos like on DSLR, but these things are good to have in the creative process :--)
riahc3 said:
Hello,
With this being talked about now, what will your dream phone have?
Mine is pretty simple:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz
Adreno 330 450MHz
2 GB RAM
3.8 V 2300 mAh, 8 Wh, Qi wireless charging
Slide out QWERTY physical keyboard
4.96 in (126 mm) diagonal IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (1080×1920 px (444 ppi))
8 MP with OIS, f/2.4 aperture and Xenon flash.
1.3 MP Front Camera
3.5 mm TRRS
GPS
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.0
NFC
Infrared port
Every damn radio band so I can use GSM/3G/4G all over the world
Now that I look at it, this phone sounds pretty familiar.........
My price range would be $400 - $500
What about you?
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By the time ARA is available this will be a bit old
But I would take high specs with 3000 or 4000 mAh so it would last more than a day
exadeci said:
By the time ARA is available this will be a bit old
But I would take high specs with 3000 or 4000 mAh so it would last more than a day
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Why do I want more? Make no sense.
riahc3 said:
Why do I want more? Make no sense.
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Because my 2100mhA battery on my nexus 4 only last the day on usual use but can be drained by half on my 1h commute if I stream music while playing games
An HTC One with modules and i'll be happy
exadeci said:
Because my 2100mhA battery on my nexus 4 only last the day on usual use but can be drained by half on my 1h commute if I stream music while playing games
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Thats why you do and that is not normal usage (internet, music and games)
The phone I do (PHONE) does WAY more than any phone I (or most people) can ask for.
Really i want there to be clean choices.
saying you want a snapdragon 800 in it or a 21 megapixel camera wont help you if that phone comes out in a year or so.
An option to get it pre-assembled.
A rating system for blocks, if you replace a block, ask you to rate/comment on it after a week or so.
More then one company making them.
Multiprocessor support. Get your Snapdragon and your Exynos. More power. Maybe limit that to just more then one copy of the same chip though, i do not see how it would work otherwise.
A separate block that contains the headphone jack, usb, ... so that it can be replaced without replacing the more expensive components.
A small internal battery, so that you can exchange the battery block without rebooting.
Different body shapes. Tablet--Phablet--Phone--Phone with keyboard
An E ink screen option.
Price, depends on components.
An E ink phablet-phone is something else then a DUAL-Tegra with 3 extra battery blocks, 4k screen and no radios except wifi.
- separate DAC/amp (i imagine these will be built into the SoC so hopefully OEMs can make modules that override this)
- 4000mAh battery
- landscape QWERTY
- probably a screen no bigger than 4.7" given that an overly large screen would make using the keyboard untenable
- camera module with a decent sensor size & xenon flash
- multiple SD/microSD card support
- projector
i don't imagine you could have all of these modules on the phone at once though
I'd love to have a phone with a 4.3" 720p AMOLED screen and a Pureview Camera with a hardware shutter key.
CPU would be an Intel Atom paired with 2 GB RAM and 32 GB storage. Also, dual-boot with Android and WP (or whatever OS I want to put on there)
Oh, and the price? $500, maybe? (modular, of course)
I should have added that please make the phone and price realistic; Some of you are saying technologies such as PureView cameras when that is a trademark by Nokia and Nokia would NEVER open source it (with reason and I agree with them)
Independent vendors such as nikon, canon, etc.. might produce modules and provide propietary bins.. nokia as motorola's competitor would probably not agreed. W/o seeing the mdk, I can only guess companies [and a few gifted individuals] would have the resources to develop, nano-cize and produce said modules.. or will motorola be taking a you design.. we produce line.. Future looks exciting either way.. I'd pay $600 for full phone [base + enough modules to make it standard] but in just [visually] glancing the [proposed] module spacing, we'd be lucky to get battery you suggested.. Doesn't seem room unless thickness added [or two module spaces used].. which is/are a bleh idea(s) imo.
Rob
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i wish tis phone
ultimate phone
I'll take the specs from first post.solar charging screen.but I want one module
To include all physical buttons only,just because!
riahc3 said:
Hello,
With this being talked about now, what will your dream phone have?
Mine is pretty simple:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz
Adreno 330 450MHz
2 GB RAM
3.8 V 2300 mAh, 8 Wh, Qi wireless charging
Slide out QWERTY physical keyboard
4.96 in (126 mm) diagonal IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (1080×1920 px (444 ppi))
8 MP with OIS, f/2.4 aperture and Xenon flash.
1.3 MP Front Camera
3.5 mm TRRS
GPS
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.0
NFC
Infrared port
Every damn radio band so I can use GSM/3G/4G all over the world
Now that I look at it, this phone sounds pretty familiar.........
My price range would be $400 - $500
What about you?
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Galaxy J with less RAM, smaller screen & less MP camera?
i would like a phone from avengers used by tony stark. i would like to pay 1000$ for that
riahc3 said:
Hello,
With this being talked about now, what will your dream phone have?
Mine is pretty simple:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 2.3GHz
Adreno 330 450MHz
2 GB RAM
3.8 V 2300 mAh, 8 Wh, Qi wireless charging
Slide out QWERTY physical keyboard
4.96 in (126 mm) diagonal IPS LCD with Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (1080×1920 px (444 ppi))
8 MP with OIS, f/2.4 aperture and Xenon flash.
1.3 MP Front Camera
3.5 mm TRRS
GPS
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Bluetooth 4.0
NFC
Infrared port
Every damn radio band so I can use GSM/3G/4G all over the world
Now that I look at it, this phone sounds pretty familiar.........
My price range would be $400 - $500
What about you?
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Why dont you get Nexus 5? it pretty much has the same specs that you wrote above...
Vlad Paul said:
i wish tis phone
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Fu$$ing hell dude! where did you find that?
romeoofair said:
i would like a phone from avengers used by tony stark. i would like to pay 1000$ for that
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Jarvis would be cool!
Display
- 5.4 Inch
- AMOLED Capacitive Touchscreen, 16M
- 1440 x 2560, 543.93 Pixels Per Inch
- Corning Gorilla Glass 4
Hardware
- Qualcomm Snapdragon 810
- Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450
- Adreno 430
Battery
- 2700 mAh
- Quick Charge 2.0
- Non Removable
Memory
- 32/64 GB On Board
- 2.5 GB Ram
Camera
- 16 MP Primary (2988 x 5312)
- 4 MP Secondary, Wide Angle Self Portrait
- 4k Video Recording
- Slow Motion Video Recording
- Dual Ring Flash
- OIS, Auto Focus
Speakers
- Dual Front Facing Speakers
Body
- Motorola Dimple / Fingerprint Scanner
- 9.0 mm
- Aluminum Frame
Additonals
- Gold Aluminum Frame (Option)
- More Custom Backings
- Completely Customizable Backing
- Improvement in Low-light Picture Quality
- Better Image Processing
- More Features In Moto Suite
Price
- $599 Off Contract
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I plan on getting it. However, I'm very happy with my 2014 X and will wait till the price drops a bit.
Doubt there will be a fingerprint scanner...Moto's head guy isn't a fan of it. I'll be selling my 2014 for the 2015
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Dont think they'll go QuadHD. That would drive prices up and moto found a nice market for now. They're not that stablished yet. Also I think the 16GB is gone and no MSD, that would "kill" moto design for the X. Unless moto comes up with a trully insane new phone, I'll remain on my 2014. This thing is still a beast
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With that specs + the amazing smothness of the 2nd gen it will be awesome, hope they'll have aluminum back at moto maker
Furieuxariel2 said:
With that specs + the amazing smothness of the 2nd gen it will be awesome, hope they'll have aluminum back at moto maker
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Yes Absolutely
matt99017d said:
I plan on getting it. However, I'm very happy with my 2014 X and will wait till the price drops a bit.
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Me Too, I Plan On Waiting Until Christmas OF This Year Maybe They'll Have A Holiday Sell
These types of threads are so stupid
I wish moto change amoled to IPS
If the screen goes any bigger than 5.2in, I definitely won't be getting it.
rjayflo said:
Doubt there will be a fingerprint scanner...Moto's head guy isn't a fan of it. I'll be selling my 2014 for the 2015
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The n6 was supposed to have a fingerprint scanner but it was ditched. So, it is possible that the next Moto X will have it
I don't like the screen size. 5.2 inches max. I'll definitely be passing this one because 810 processor
sent from my Moto X Pure Edition
Of course I'm talking about the Moto x 3rd Gen.I honestly can't wait. I feel like a little kid waiting to open Christmas presents. I seen the leaked render of this device just a little bit ago, It looks great. The picture was pixelated and blurry but you could see the jest of it. The camera, flash and dimple are all lined up in this rounded-rectangle strip on metal on the back. It looks very premium, the front of the phone just simply looks like a streamlined flat AMOLED panel with 2 front facing speakers (at least that's what is seems to be). I guarantee all Moto users are going to be proud of this device. like come 'on 4GB on RAM! and look at that chipset and pixel density. This is going to be a gift from the higher up.
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Rumored specs:
Display
Type: AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size: 5.2 inches
Resolution: 1440 x 2560 pixels (~565 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch: Yes
Protection: Corning Gorilla Glass 3
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Platform
OS: Android OS, v5.1.1 (Lollipop)
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8992 Snapdragon 808
CPU: Dual-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A57 & quad-core 1.44 GHz Cortex-A53
GPU: Adreno 418
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Memory
Card slot: No
Internal: 32/64 GB, 4 GB RAM
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Camera
Primary: 16 MP, 5312 x 2988 pixels, autofocus, optical image stabilization, dual-LED flash
Features: Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video: [email protected], [email protected], HDR
Secondary: 5 MP, 1080p
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Sound
Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
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Comms
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth: v4.1, A2DP, EDR, LE
GPS: Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
NFC: Yes
Radio: No
USB: micro USB v2.0, USB Host
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Features
Sensors: Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, temperature
Messaging: SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
Browser: HTML5
Java: No
- Fast battery charging: 60% in 30 min (Quick Charge 2.0)
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- MP3/AAC+/WAV/WMA player
- MP4/H.264/WMV player
- Photo/video editor
- Document viewer
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Battery
Non-removable Li-Ion 3280 mAh battery
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Leaked photos showed below
I wonder why isnt anyone else excited for this...i know i am...!!! Cant wait... goodbye s6! Its either the 3rd gen moto or nexus 5 2nd gen
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Not that much. I'm waiting for next nexus instead like every year. I hope they lower the size of display.
bunglemx said:
Not that much. I'm waiting for next nexus instead like every year. I hope they lower the size of display.
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Same. I am more intrigued with the Nexus because of Google I/O:
1. I am certain a fingerprint scanner will be included
2. USB type C. Now that is something to be happy about
3. OIS and all that camera stuff will be in the next Nexus
4. Wireless charging & fast charging. Both of best worlds
5. Having the latest Android OS version. Android M is going to be awesome, I want it. I will consider buying a Nexus this year if rumors of an LG one is correct (or Huawei), depending on price
6. A lot of the specs will be the same as the first post
not enough of an upgrade to get me to buy day one. maybe after the price drop.
0.0 said:
Same. I am more intrigued with the Nexus because of Google I/O:
1. I am certain a fingerprint scanner will be included
2. USB type C. Now that is something to be happy about
3. OIS and all that camera stuff will be in the next Nexus
4. Wireless charging & fast charging. Both of best worlds
5. Having the latest Android OS version. Android M is going to be awesome, I want it. I will consider buying a Nexus this year if rumors of an LG one is correct (or Huawei), depending on price
6. A lot of the specs will be the same as the first post
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Yes, I'm also interested in what Nexus is going to put out this year. I know that's its going to have an outstanding spec sheet, It always does. That fingerprint scanner would be nice, unfortunely i don't think the new Moto X will have it but you never know. It's more than likely that the new Moto X will be guaranteed updates after it's intial release. Hopefully Motorola improves the camera, OIS would be great and they need to work on getting consietent high quality photos. Image processing needs to be improved also. I tryed the Nexus 6 for about a month and it was perfectly fine in preformance but it's too large. I think the next Nexus smartphone should have a 5.5 inch display at most. Wireless charging & fast charging im sure will be in the new Moto X. LG or Huawei huh? Both are great cmpanies. LG with its G4 and Huawei with its P8. My vote is on Huawei. I also seen the new Moto G rumored specs. 2GB of RAM, larger battery, higher MP count, 16GB base model, same 5 inch screen but in 1080p this time around, Better chipset and more. It amazes me how fast technology is evolving, if the new Moto G would of came out last year it could sure contend with some flagship smartphones.
The only thing that stands out for me is the 1080p video capture at 120fps (slow mo). Not really enough for me to want the new Moto X. I'll most likely wait for the price to be dropped before biting the bullet.
In regards to the new Nexus, I'll never buy a Nexus phone again after owning the Nexus 4 and 5 - awfully bad call quality issues and a lack of acknowledgement from Google (poor support). Nexus 6 was just stupid with it's almost 6" display lol. Probably get laughed at trying to hold that thing against my ear!! Anyway I don't think I can do without Moto Voice, it's too good!
bunglemx said:
Not that much. I'm waiting for next nexus instead like every year. I hope they lower the size of display.
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Yeah, me too. The only reason I jumped to Moto X 2014 is because of Nexus 6 size. Previously I've always used the Nexus line.
Wutang200 said:
The only thing that stands out for me is the 1080p video capture at 120fps (slow mo). Not really enough for me to want the new Moto X. I'll most likely wait for the price to be dropped before biting the bullet.
In regards to the new Nexus, I'll never buy a Nexus phone again after owning the Nexus 4 and 5 - awfully bad call quality issues and a lack of acknowledgement from Google (poor support). Nexus 6 was just stupid with it's almost 6" display lol. Probably get laughed at trying to hold that thing against my ear!! Anyway I don't think I can do without Moto Voice, it's too good!
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Yeah, the 1080p 120fps slow mo will be great im sure of it. The specs that didn't exaclty stand out but were a little unexpected were the battery life & the RAM. I wasn't expeting such a leep in battery capacity to go from 2300 to 3280 mAh is awesome, that almost a 1000 mAh gain. I was expecting something in the ballpark between 2600-2900 mAh which is still good depending on the display and hardware. I was expecting 3GB of RAM for some reason. Maybe it's becuase the Moto X has always seemed to be 1GB of RAM lower than other flagships that came out during the same time. I guess Motorola is stepping up. As far as the expected changes and improvements i knew that Motorola would improve: the camera, chipset and display resolution. It's kinda unfortunate that the new Moto X will most likely not have expandable storage but at least the got rid of the 16GB variant. I am also gonna wait for a price drop, maybe around christmas or so and yes Moto Voice is beyond helpful, i love it. I think that's the dominant reason why i would choose the Moto X 2014 over the Nexus 6, well that and size of course.
I really hope that the MotoX 3rd Gen will have two models, one as large as the Nexus 6 or MotoX Pro (China). I really loved the MotoX and Nexus 6 and own both, but the Nexus 6 without Moto Display is disappointing. I've considered buying one from China, but I don't know if Google services can be installed afterwards. Anyhow, Motorola is about to grace us with a new device so its smarter to wait it out.
If any if these rumors are true, I'll be a happy camper.
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I wasn't expeting such a leep in battery capacity to go from 2300 to 3280 mAh is awesome, that almost a 1000 mAh gain. I was expecting something in the ballpark between 2600-2900 mAh which is still good depending on the display and hardware. I was expecting 3GB of RAM for some reason. Maybe it's becuase the Moto X has always seemed to be 1GB of RAM lower than other flagships that came out during the same time. I guess Motorola is stepping up.
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Oh I forgot about the bigger battery. That'll be my other reason to want to switch but not straight away, probably when the price drops.
I don't really care about 4GB RAM at all. I think 2GB is more than enough for what most people would do on a smartphone. I've never ever felt like the RAM capacity is slowing me down or anything.