[Q] Marketplace functionality question regarding how it limits availability of apps - HD2 Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting an

Just wondering something, when the marketplace says "This application is not available for your device. Press here for more info" pressing i gets you this:
"Application not available - This might be because your phone software needs to be updated, the application is exclusive to a different mobile provider, or the app is not available in your region"
Is the mechanism to determine this via an online check with Microsoft and the Marketplace or is there a registry setting, etc?
Additionally would there be anyway of putting a 'cheat' in place so that the marketplace app always gets told "yes you can install this"?
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no, this dont have anything with registry... only USA and GB region have full access to Marketplace... you must change region settings in your phone but this cant do without hard reset and select English USA or GB
other solution is alternate Marketplace (for only free apps).
http://wappstore.org/wp/?showapp=1
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1530113

As you can see I am in the UK... this was for the Nokia Drive app I managed to get displayed on my phones marketplace app, but it gave the "you cant have this as its restricted" rubbish...
HD2 owners got the same messages when trying to install Compass after some updates, even though it was allowed to be installed prior to the updates.
There must be a way of fooling the marketplace app and telling it that all pre-reqs have been met even if they haven't...

Starfury said:
As you can see I am in the UK... this was for the Nokia Drive app I managed to get displayed on my phones marketplace app, but it gave the "you cant have this as its restricted" rubbish...
HD2 owners got the same messages when trying to install Compass after some updates, even though it was allowed to be installed prior to the updates.
There must be a way of fooling the marketplace app and telling it that all pre-reqs have been met even if they haven't...
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On HD2 solution is changing an identification of device as HD7 for example.

If you edit the registry you can spoof being any device, correct? The obvious plus is to spoof being a Nokia Lumia 800 since you get Drive, Maps, ESPN and other Nokia things. They are pretty much the lead OEM on the platform with HTC and Sammy more interested in Android devices.
So really is there any downside to reg editing an HD2 to be a Lumia 800?

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unlocked rogers magic on att (app store issues)

I just purchased a unlocked rogers magic for use on att. The phone and data work great on att. The market place shows free and some paid apps, but I dont see all paid apps. For example I do not see documents to go or the new copilot live gps software. Does my unlocked phone (not rooted) only show non copyright protected apps? I can see shazam which people say is copy protected. Can I do anything about this? Is my phone somehow linked to the canada marketplace store? Can I link to the US store?
motionUS said:
I just purchased a unlocked rogers magic for use on att. The phone and data work great on att. The market place shows free and some paid apps, but I dont see all paid apps. For example I do not see documents to go or the new copilot live gps software. Does my unlocked phone (not rooted) only show non copyright protected apps? I can see shazam which people say is copy protected. Can I do anything about this? Is my phone somehow linked to the canada marketplace store? Can I link to the US store?
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The ROM is customized for Rogers, and Rogers deemed it necessary to lock down the market a bit. Going to have to wait until a cooked ROM becomes available or make your own.
This is a problem with the scandinavian HTC Magic phones aswell (maybe it is for all HTC-branded/PVT32A Magic phones?). No protected apps will show in the market on the phone. Paid apps are not available yet here in Sweden though, but there are also many free apps that are protected and not visible on Android Market on the HTC Magic phones here. If you root the phone with daldroids image and use market enabler, the problem still exists, although you can see some paid apps, most of them are protected and will not show.
A solution seems to be to flash the new NK02 ION rom, users of the scandinavian Magic has reported that they got full access to market when using that image. But there are probably many who don't want to flash a custom rom onto the phone.
This limitation seems to be gone now, at least on my swedish HTC Magic. I can now find all the apps that I couldn't find earlier since they were protected. Hopefully this is a permanent fix and not just a temporary glitch in Android Market.
Hellberg said:
This limitation seems to be gone now, at least on my swedish HTC Magic. I can now find all the apps that I couldn't find earlier since they were protected. Hopefully this is a permanent fix and not just a temporary glitch in Android Market.
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you are right, as of today I can see the copy protected apps on my unlocked rogers htc magic which I use in the states. I'm buying my documents to go before it disappears.
Thanks for the heads up.

Full market in non-released countries

For some reason I cannot fathom HTC Android based phones like Magic and Hero is relased in Norway and are selling quite well. But full Android market is not released so we can only access free apps. Meaning I cannot buy CoPilot even if I wanted to.
Is there any way to open full market access? How does the phone detect my location, can I fool it by setting up a proxy or similar?
I would like to buy apps too. Sadly, I can only access free ones.
hey...
i live in Romania..had the same problem but this came in handy...
don't forget to save settings first
i could still receive calls and browse the internet with faked operator...but you never know what could happen
Thanks, will give it a try...

[Q]Potential Hd2 Issue with Marketplace

I finally got this HD2 Activated. So I enable to my gamertag yadadadada. It won't let me download/install app or games on to the phone. Yes my wifi/data connection work fine. Though I had to reformat my phone after a few things and I lost my regedit. Would the marketplace not be working because I don't have it registered as an HD7 anymore? I have my activation code though enabled
Short answer yes. I found it wouldn't let me until the device name was changed to HD7. Windows market place must see what the device is then decide if it should be allowed download apps or not.
lol yes, after the tedious process of getting it to work, I downloaded my first app, and installing it now

[Q] Netflix app - how can I get it? (Pro and RT)

It is very simple question and will be valid for many apps that are not available in certain regions.
I know I can still use netflix vis web browser but it would be cool to use their app as well.
Problem is, it will not be available in my region for a long, long time - can anything be done?
What region is that? If Netflix is available in your region and you can use their website it should be available in the Windows Store for you as well.
If you would look on the left, under my nick you would know that the region in question is Poland.
And if Netflix would be available in Poland I would not ask how can I get the Moder UI app + I would not say that it is not (service itself) available here
galtom said:
If you would look on the left, under my nick you would know that the region in question is Poland.
And if Netflix would be available in Poland I would not ask how can I get the Moder UI app + I would not say that it is not (service itself) available here
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Right, didn't think to look at the left for region...
Since you said you could still use Netflix in the browser I assumed it was available in your region. The only way I can see to get the app if Netflix isnt available in your region would be to get a copy of the app from someone who has it installed and somehow make it work on your computer (I haven't tested but I doubt transferring even a free app in to the right folder would be enough for it to work) and that's not something I think anyone here will help you with due to illicit redistribution of their app and breaking of their license agreement and so on.
Tried the Netflix app with the ELO touch screen we have and must say the kids love it.
Leonick said:
The only way I can see to get the app if Netflix isnt available in your region would be to get a copy of the app from someone who has it installed and somehow make it work on your computer (I haven't tested but I doubt transferring even a free app in to the right folder would be enough for it to work) and that's not something I think anyone here will help you with due to illicit redistribution of their app and breaking of their license agreement and so on.
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I dont think it is that easy. Apps for Modern UI can be downloaded only from Windows Stoder - unless you guys plan to jailbrake the system.
And I am not sure if argument you use "not something I think anyone here will help you with due to illicit redistribution of their app and breaking of their license agreement and so on." considering everything that is done here for Android devices.
I am more interested if there will be a way to unlock Windows Store like now we can unlock Google Play via Market Enabler. I understand that with GSM modem it is much easier... but...
So far I can only use Hulu and Netflix (on Windows) via web browser. I got to say that getting stuff like Netflix app is much easier on iOS...
galtom said:
It is very simple question and will be valid for many apps that are not available in certain regions.
I know I can still use netflix vis web browser but it would be cool to use their app as well.
Problem is, it will not be available in my region for a long, long time - can anything be done?
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Windows 8 store regionalisation is based on the honour system. All you have to do is change your location to the USA and Bob's your uncle.
In the start screen, search for 'Change Location'
change the windows region to USA,
install netflix, and any other apps you want
change back to your local region
You will probably need to change your region to the USA again if you need to update the apps.
I have tried this with Netflix and it worked for me in NZ. I still needed a vpn to run netflix though.
The web browser works better though
SeanX said:
Windows 8 store regionalisation is based on the honour system. All you have to do is change your location to the USA and Bob's your uncle.
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Really?? That simple???
I know I will (still) have to use VPN as app and service are two different thing but still - AWESOME NEWS.
This means that will be able to get other apps (if already available) like BBC iPlayer, 4oD, Hulu, etc....
BTW: Do you know if they did it the same thing with Windows Phone 8? And if WP8 has (finally) VPN support?
Thanks for the info anyway!
galtom said:
ame thing with Windows Phone 8? And if WP8 has (finally) VPN support?
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I have no idea about windows phone 8.
SeanX said:
I have no idea about windows phone 8.
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Do you know about Windows RT? Perhaps instead of tablet/hybrid with Windows 8 Pro I could get a cheaper device with Windows RT on it...
If there is VPN support (as far as I know there is) and change os store location is as easy as in full Windows it would do me just fine.
I could do all the things I do toady on my iPad (netflix, hulu, web, email, etc...) + some more - at last comfortable typing.... I do write a lot and iPad is terrible if you work with Windows and text...

WP8: change marketplaces (glitch found) ?

Possable hack or glitch, that is why I am posting here.
According to a few sites, a glitch has been discovered by setting a proxy, you can make your non-nokia phone be able install apps from Nokia's apps.
Sites for info...
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...n&a=http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpcentral.com/glitch-spotted-windows-phone-store-lumia-apps
Does anyone have clear directions on this so everyone knows how to do it?
Also, I am hoping this would allow us to get to the point of a Marketplace Changer like we used to have for WP7 devices.. I personally would like some HTC apps on my Nokia...and a LG app too.
Figured this would be a great place to start a discussion on this.
The basic "hack" is dead simple, actually. In a way, this is easier than the old Marketplace Switching apps; those worked by changing some configuration files on the phone; this works by editing the communication between the phone and the Marketplace servers *as if* those files had been changed.
It's probably worth the time to write up a small utility to do this yourself, rather than relying on a third party proxy (never a good plan if you don't have to do it). It might even be possible to make the proxy run as an app on the phone itself (it would need to be sideloaded, since there's no way MS would permit such a thing, and you'd probably still need to be on WiFi, but it might be possible).
DavidinCT said:
Possable hack or glitch, that is why I am posting here.
According to a few sites, a glitch has been discovered by setting a proxy, you can make your non-nokia phone be able install apps from Nokia's apps.
Sites for info...
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...n&a=http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpdang.com/archives/98835.html
http://www.wpcentral.com/glitch-spotted-windows-phone-store-lumia-apps
Does anyone have clear directions on this so everyone knows how to do it?
Also, I am hoping this would allow us to get to the point of a Marketplace Changer like we used to have for WP7 devices.. I personally would like some HTC apps on my Nokia...and a LG app too.
Figured this would be a great place to start a discussion on this.
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Guyz, I've tried this on my Huawei W1 but its says, cannot connect,,,,,,,,,, ive also tried changing the region but nothing happens, does anyone tried this already, and successfully installed those nokia exclusive apps?
Thank you,
jakelq said:
Guyz, I've tried this on my Huawei W1 but its says, cannot connect,,,,,,,,,, ive also tried changing the region but nothing happens, does anyone tried this already, and successfully installed those nokia exclusive apps?
Thank you,
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it is time based. I mean, sometimes it happens. sometime it doesnt. keep trying is all I can say.
GH0ST DR0NE said:
it is time based. I mean, sometimes it happens. sometime it doesnt. keep trying is all I can say.
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yup, i tried this at home and it worked..
It runs smooth with huawei w1 and i dont experience any missed swipes.
Why does it wasnt released for 512 mb ram?
tnx.
GoodDayToDie said:
The basic "hack" is dead simple, actually. In a way, this is easier than the old Marketplace Switching apps; those worked by changing some configuration files on the phone; this works by editing the communication between the phone and the Marketplace servers *as if* those files had been changed.
It's probably worth the time to write up a small utility to do this yourself, rather than relying on a third party proxy (never a good plan if you don't have to do it). It might even be possible to make the proxy run as an app on the phone itself (it would need to be sideloaded, since there's no way MS would permit such a thing, and you'd probably still need to be on WiFi, but it might be possible).
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I would gladly test (I am dev unlocked) anything you can come up with here.
Anything that could help progress towards a hack on WP8, even if it's a marketplace changer of some type
aclegg2011 said:
Man, we really need to find a way to dev unlock our phones. :/
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The same process (dreamspark EDU account, etc) that worked for WP7 works on WP8 but, the limits of 3 apps are still there... So I can sideload 3 apps..
DavidinCT said:
The same process (dreamspark EDU account, etc) that worked for WP7 works on WP8 but, the limits of 3 apps are still there... So I can sideload 3 apps..
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I have an edu account activated since december 2011. I had on my Omnia W (WP 7.5) only the possibility to sideload 3 apps, but now on my lumia 820 i DONT have this limit of 3 apps..
gipfelgoas said:
I have an edu account activated since december 2011. I had on my Omnia W (WP 7.5) only the possibility to sideload 3 apps, but now on my lumia 820 i dont have this limit of 3 apps..
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I have a Lumia 928, and I dev unlocked it(got one of those free EDU accounts that was going around, I log in 2 times a year), I put on 3 apps and it gives me an error if I try to add more.
I would like to add more but, No biggie because there is not 3rd party tools or hacks for WP8....YET.
DavidinCT said:
I have a Lumia 928, and I dev unlocked it(got one of those free EDU accounts that was going around, I log in 2 times a year), I put on 3 apps and it gives me an error if I try to add more.
I would like to add more but, No biggie because there is not 3rd party tools or hacks for WP8....YET.
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I dont mind but it seems that my account has a bug..?!?
GoodDayToDie said:
The basic "hack" is dead simple, actually. In a way, this is easier than the old Marketplace Switching apps; those worked by changing some configuration files on the phone; this works by editing the communication between the phone and the Marketplace servers *as if* those files had been changed.
It's probably worth the time to write up a small utility to do this yourself, rather than relying on a third party proxy (never a good plan if you don't have to do it). It might even be possible to make the proxy run as an app on the phone itself (it would need to be sideloaded, since there's no way MS would permit such a thing, and you'd probably still need to be on WiFi, but it might be possible).
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Here is a question on this. Is there a list of "proxies" for different carriers/OEMS ? I could not find anything besides this one. Do you know how I can access HTC, Samsung, LG, etc list ?
How does one access the marketplace of another OEM than Nokia ? (I have a Nokia so that is not an issue for me)
It's just a matter of changing the ID string for the phone when it's talking to the Marketplace servers. I'll look into writing a tool to do it.
GoodDayToDie said:
It's just a matter of changing the ID string for the phone when it's talking to the Marketplace servers. I'll look into writing a tool to do it.
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Awsome, I look forward to something ! Thanks !
GoodDayToDie said:
It's just a matter of changing the ID string for the phone when it's talking to the Marketplace servers. I'll look into writing a tool to do it.
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Hi ,GoodDayToDie
Try fiddler2 to modify the request send by the phone when talking to the Marketplace servers.
I have made some research and it's intresting.....
@Mattemoller90: Yes, but I can't promise that the app will install correctly afterward. Apps identify, in their manifests, the resolutions they support. If the app requires resolution that the phone doesn't have, the phone will most likely simply refuse to install it.
@GoodDayToDie
How can I cheat the Marketplace with Fiddler2 (for change the resolution) I want try
You are the best
Eh, I'm not going to write a full tutorial right now. Short version is install Fiddler, set it to proxy external connections (will need to be let through your firewall), set your phone to use your PC's IP address and Fiddler's listening port as the proxy, set Fiddler to intercept requests, and then open the Marketplace. You'll see an HTTP GET request from the phone to Microsoft's servers, and the URL will contain a bunch of details about your phone (manufacturer, model, version info, region, etc.) including resolution. Replace the resolution string with the one you want to pretend to have, then have Fiddler "Run to completion".
Note: You'll probably have to do this multiple times. It's OK to not do it for things like partial searches, but you'll of course need to do it for the final search query. It can be scripted, but that's outside the scope of what I'm going to tell you to do here. Look at how @xdevilium does it in his app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2362165
Can fiddler be used for other things? Like seeing where server updates are coming from, and how are phones interacts with developer registration?
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In theory, yes it can (or any other HTTP/HTTPS proxy; there are several of them available). However, the functions you describe use HTTPS. To intercept SSL traffic, the proxy needs to forge certificates for the sites you connect to (unless it somehow got ahold of the site's private key). To have your phone trust the forged certificates, the proxy (including Fiddler, if you choose to enable it) can sign the forged certificates using its own private key; if the corresponding public key is trusted by the phone (which can be done just by sending the public key to the phone using email or bluetooth or something, and installing it) then the forged signatures will be trusted.
However, that's only true for the general case. For specific OS functionality, Microsoft (and all the other big mobile vendors) use a technique called "certificate pinning" where the SSL certificate must either exactly match a known certifiacte, or must be signed by an exact match. In this case, it doesn't work to install your proxy's certificate and have it be trusted; a feature using cert pinning doesn't even check the OS's trust store. Therefore, we can't intercept those specific communications.
It's frustrating.
I've never scripted Fiddler, I just re-wrote the requests by hand. It's easy enough; there aren't very many. I could tell you how to do it in a couple other proxy programs.
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I could tell you how to do it in a couple other proxy programs.
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