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Mr. Schmidt in a 2 second quote confirms ICS to be released in October/November of this year. We already knew sometime in Q4, but it's good to hear an official confirmation!
Droid Life News: Eric Schmidt: Ice Cream Sandwich Coming In October/November
Just looking out!
hopefully that equals nexus prime and/or xoom2 being released by thanksgiving
For some reason I've been pretty much banking on the fact that ICS is coming out in October. I can't remember where I heard it (or even if I heard it), but October/November cannot come soon enough.
I had my mind set on December for some reason, so keeping to that so not to dissapointed by the delays.
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But will the Xoom get it?
That's the big question, especially setting as Google now own Motorola too.
I'm hopeful.
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mcnob said:
But will the Xoom get it?
That's the big question, especially setting as Google now own Motorola too.
I'm hopeful.
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Not to be anal about it but Google does not own Motorola yet. Google as entered into a definitive agreement (i.e. contractually binding) to purchase Motorola Mobility but it still has to go through regulatory approval in US and EU before it can be completed. The acquisition will probably not be complete before Q1 2012.
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Not to be anal about it but Google does not own Motorola yet. Google as entered into a definitive agreement (i.e. contractually binding) to purchase Motorola Mobility but it still has to go through regulatory approval in US and EU before it can be completed. The acquisition will probably not be complete before Q1 2012.
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I must admit that this would be a smart move on Google's part. I mean... I love the Droid's: I think they are the best by far. And with Verizon's network and their 4G LTE speeds, and with the release of the Droid Bionic, we have another epic phone joining Team Droid.
If Google were to buy out Motorola Mobility, would this make the Droid family the new Nexus? Meaning... the Droid brand would then belong to Google? If so, I am looking forward to that! The Droid's would become the official Google devices that get all the updates first.
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I must admit that this would be a smart move on Google's part. I mean... I love the Droid's: I think they are the best by far. And with Verizon's network and their 4G LTE speeds, and with the release of the Droid Bionic, we have another epic phone joining Team Droid.
If Google were to buy out Motorola Mobility, would this make the Droid family the new Nexus? Meaning... the Droid brand would then belong to Google? If so, I am looking forward to that! The Droid's would become the official Google devices that get all the updates first.
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Well Google has said that Motorola will be kept as a separate entity and they would still have to go through the same process as everyone else to be able to make the next Nexus phone.
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Well Google has said that Motorola will be kept as a separate entity and they would still have to go through the same process as everyone else to be able to make the next Nexus phone.
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Yeah after looking at an article about this I see that now. Still would be a neat thought if the Droid family was the official name brand for the official Google devices.
anyone see that news saying thyxe think the nexus prime will now be called samsung galaxy nexus?
rubbish name IMO makes the Nexus phone sound more like a spin-off of a Samsung Galaxy range and not a Google phone... pft.
anyway I think and hope that the Xoom gets an update - there doesnt seem to be any big 'a new ICS tablet' rumors really around the corner - not like there was with the HC Nexus tablet of the past... and didnt they show ICS on the Xoom at Google I/O?
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anyone see that news saying thyxe think the nexus prime will now be called samsung galaxy nexus?
rubbish name IMO makes the Nexus phone sound more like a spin-off of a Samsung Galaxy range and not a Google phone... pft.
anyway I think and hope that the Xoom gets an update - there doesnt seem to be any big 'a new ICS tablet' rumors really around the corner - not like there was with the HC Nexus tablet of the past... and didnt they show ICS on the Xoom at Google I/O?
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I'm sure if anything can handle gb then it can handle ics so our xooms being a ged we should get ics preety fast.
Also I.hope that random tipster was talking crap about galaxy nexus. Nexus prime/three/HD would all be fine.
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I'm sure if anything can handle gb then it can handle ics so our xooms being a ged we should get ics preety fast.
Also I.hope that random tipster was talking crap about galaxy nexus. Nexus prime/three/HD would all be fine.
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Yup.
Samsung Nexus whatever fine, but Samsung Galaxy Nexus seems too much leaning on Samsung's end than Googles... if its suppose to be a GED you'd expect more from Google end than the manufacturer...
anyway - not long to go - surprised there isnt a countdown somewhere
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A note about Ice Cream Sandwich: We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR, Motorola RAZR, Motorola XOOM and DROID BIONIC by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.
Phone Model* Timeline USA
ATRIX 4G MB860 Upgrade to Android 2.3 now available (Menu > Settings > About Phone > System Updates) or here. BACKFLIP MB300 Upgrade to Android 2.1 now available here. BRAVO MB520 Upgrade to Android 2.2 available (Menu > Settings > About phone > System updates) CHARM MB502 Will remain on Android 2.1 CLIQ MB200 Upgrade to Android 2.1 now available here. CLIQ XT MB501 (T-Mobile) Will remain on Android 1.5. For info, click here.
CLIQ XT MB501 (Wal-Mart) Will remain on Android 1.5
DEFY MB525 Upgrade to Android 2.2 now available. For info, click here DEVOUR A555 Will remain on Android 1.6 DROID A855 Upgrade to Android 2.2 is complete (Menu > Settings > About phone > System updates) DROID 2 A955 Upgrade to Android 2.3 available (Menu > Settings > About phone > System updates) DROID 2 Global A956 Upgrade to Android 2.3 available (Menu > Settings > About phone > System updates)
DROID X MB810 Upgrade to Android 2.2 available (Menu > Settings > About phone > System updates)
DROIDX 2 MB870 Upgrade to Android 2.3 available (Menu > Settings > About phone > System updates) FLIPOUT MB511 Will remain on Android 2.1 FLIPSIDE MB508 Upgrade to Android 2.2 now available here MOTOROLA i1 Will remain on Android 1.5 MILESTONE A854 Will remain on Android 2.1 MOTOROLA XOOM WiFi Only MZ604 Upgrade to Android 3.2 now available
MOTOROLA XOOM WiFi + 3G Only MZ600 (Verizon) Upgrade to Android 3.2 now available
MILESTONE XT720 Will remain on Android 2.1
No ICS for Atrix? Very very disappointed, glad we have some CM devs here, can't wait for CM9.
Thats straight from moto. And why i started my other thread asking people to get on motos facebook and twitter and tell them how unhappy we will be if the abandon the atrix. So come on people get our device added to the list. Post on motos. Facebook wall. And ask everyone you know too as well
I think they are aware of our upcoming cm support so they just won't bother at this point. Doesn't really matter though because cm is infinitely better than moto's garbage.
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interesting that they left out even the Atrix 2
At first I thought the reason only bionic XOOM and razr would be supported is because of omap design, but then I remembered that the XOOM is a Tegra 2 soc. So basically they're just abandoning support for the ATRIX.
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But we can change that flood the facebook wallnon stop tell themyou wont be buying another moto device
I love how they only mentioned devices on Verizon. Just shows how much Motorola plays favorites with the DROID line.
wow......well with all the new devices coming out, still no official release of CM7, and the atrix not gettin ICS, doesn't look good at all.......i'm still keeping mine though.....but my next device may be the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE
Dont give up post that your not a happy customer here and spread the word for othes to do the same. Lol i feel like im on a one man crusade but if people came togther on here we have the numbers. too change motos mind. http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1
Strangely no word on Atrix 2??!
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Well. Moto shows their ass again
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ive seen many threads along these lines for many devices,
OP is definitally right, as customers we have power over motorola. if they dont want to give us ICS we make a point of that, thhehy want our business and this is a great way to get it
so let the flood begin to keep our powerhouse device on moto's list
Haha most likely atrix 2 and atrix wont be on that list. Only new devices. See what there doing trying too more money out of us. So if u want ics people time for a new device
Im not buying any more electronic devices AT ALL!!! Not limited to Motorola only!!!
Haha thats fine. I just think we have an opportunity to make the manufacturer listen too its customes for once. Sammy did a majod turn around and now they are prob the best companie too buy a device from. But it took time and alot of pissed off customers to change there customer relations. Such as communication with the customer and more root friendly
when i got the atrix 4g, i got it becasuse i thought that it would be supported longer because of its superior hardware specs.
next time i buy a phone i will heavily take into account the dev community behind it. manufacturers cant be relied on.
I find it hard to believe that support for the device is dropped within 8 months of launch. I understood that support for devices would continue for at least one year when there is a new update available well within that year.
I'll remain optimistic that the press release does not say they WON'T provide ICS. It lists devices they are currently "Planning" to support with no mention of Atrix 2 anywhere.
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I find it hard to believe that support for the device is dropped within 8 months of launch. I understood that support for devices would continue for at least one year when there is a new update available well within that year.
I'll remain optimistic that the press release does not say they WON'T provide ICS. It lists devices they are currently "Planning" to support with no mention of Atrix 2 anywhere.
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You also generally don't see a direct successor to a product only 8 months after launch as well.
Hey Folks,
Anyone tested out the Droid 4? I used to have a G1 and loved it. Now I am contemplating switching back to android but want a qwerty. G2 would be great but it seems a bit old/outdated..
Has any G2 user switched to a droid 4 (seems like the best qwerty, with little plans to make a super smartphone with a qwerty) and how is it??
Thanks.
I love my Droid 4, the keyboard is a lot better than the G2.
Pros:
Bigger Screen
Higher Pixel Density
Dual Core 1.2 Ghz CPU
1GB of RAM
Amazing Keyboard
SD Card Support
Eventual ICS
Cons:
Locked Bootloader (Still have the ability to install Custom ROMS, but no Custom Kernels)
Pentile Display (Makes some colors look more dotted)
Still on Gingerbread
Non-Removable Battery
Thanks!! Super helpful.
Hmm unfortunately the locked bootloader is quite unfortunate. Might be a dealbreaker. (Also no sim card) I swung by a VZ store today to check out the galaxy nexus and also played with the droid 4. Honestly wasnt that impressed with the keyboard, although its probably because I have been spoiled by my blackberry 9900 which has the best keyboard ever. Suppose its going to be hard to find a better keyboard.
I am now swinging towards the gnex with a prepaid plan through tmobile for $30/month (!!). Gosh I am so indecisive.
PS- check your phone OTA for updates, the guy in store was updating the Droid4 there to ICS.
Was thinking about getting a droid 4 myself but the support for it is minimal on xda, maybe its a little better on roots wiki?
The bootstrap n the names they have for recovery is a bit confusing why not just say recovery, bootloader etc.
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PS- check your phone OTA for updates, the guy in store was updating the Droid4 there to ICS.
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The only official ICS for the D4 are the leaked builds, but not official OTA yet. The only Moto phone that is getting updates right now is the Droid Razr/Razr MAXX to ICS. The guy at the VZW Store must be updating to the leak builds lol.
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The only official ICS for the D4 are the leaked builds, but not official OTA yet. The only Moto phone that is getting updates right now is the Droid Razr/Razr MAXX to ICS. The guy at the VZW Store must be updating to the leak builds lol.
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Oh sorry perhaps he was updating the droid razr, etc rather than the droid4. It was the OTA update as I watched him do it (obviously not that carefully lol). Sorry for the false hope
While Motorola may have promised Jelly Bean updates for their most recently launched RAZR devices, for other Moto owners life isn't so peachy on the update front. The device software upgrade page has been updated, and it isn't going to make happy reading for some.
The Atrix 4G and Atrix 2 now read as "further plans coming soon," having previously been pegged to update to ICS in Q3. The Xyboard 8.2 and Xoom Family Edition are also in the same boat, only the pair of tablets are still provided with a date sometime in Q4. Also slipping into the Q4 category is the DROID Bionic.
We previously reported that devices such as the DROID 3 would remain on Gingerbread, and one has to only hope that the same isn't about to be said of some of these. The Atrix 2 isn't even a year old, so to see it left languishing in a pre-ICS world would be a sorry sight. Slipping dates leave us feeling less doomsday, yet still with a slightly ominous feeling. If Moto is already talking the Jelly Bean talk, one does have to wonder where some of these ICS updates are hiding.
Of course, there is always the promise of a $100 credit towards a new Motorola phone should your 2011 onwards device not get updated to Jelly Bean. So don't go throwing away that Atrix 2 just yet.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motor...-upgrade-timeline-several-ics-updates-delayed
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We don't need repeated news.
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I can't believe it! I just bought my ATRIX 4G thinking it would have ICS!
Hey, if you think that's bad, the Canadian one won't get it at all!
I read a article on AndroidPolice which said that at Motorola Event, they announced that Atrix 2 and anything before that phone will not receive ICS update Sucks balls
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I read a article on AndroidPolice which said that at Motorola Event, they announced that Atrix 2 and anything before that phone will not receive ICS update Sucks balls
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Link, please?
This is so depressing! Only Canada's Atrix was listed to stay on Gingerbread?!
so erm... when are we getting the 100$? since we all know that were not getting JB
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Why delay?
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They can't meet the dateline so they move the goal post again. Enjoy the waiting game.
This has been posted quite a few times. Thread closed.
After Motorola joined the Android update alliance, they promised to release operating system updates to all its Android devices for 18 months following their release. But for the Xoom2/Xyboard Motorola quietly abandoned its update pledge, they will not provide any more updates for this device. Even though Motorola Xoom2 MZ607 has been on market only 12 months. Motorola providet only one update to this device and it took over 10 months and they don't even unlock the bootloader, i will never again buy anything from Motorola.
Wait I thought that promise was for the XOOM original not other devices >.>
The XOOM is a Google Experience Device so it gets updates...
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Wait I thought that promise was for the XOOM original not other devices >.>
The XOOM is a Google Experience Device so it gets updates...
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It dosen't matter which XOOM you have, all of them should be updatet http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-partners-with-oems-and-carriers-to-guarantee-android-upda/
Google handled the Xoom. Xoom 2 and all those other nonsense locked bootloader tabs are Moto's responsibility. Can't change it not but you'll buy a GED like the Xoom in the future I'm sure.
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After Motorola joined the Android update alliance, they promised to release operating system updates to all its Android devices for 18 months following their release. But for the Xoom2/Xyboard Motorola quietly abandoned its update pledge, they will not provide any more updates for this device. Even though Motorola Xoom2 MZ607 has been on market only 12 months. Motorola providet only one update to this device and it took over 10 months and they don't even unlock the bootloader, i will never again buy anything from Motorola.
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That makes two of us!!!
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Same with me. Additionaly xoom2 608 us giving me problems like crashes, frequently stops responding etc. I use stock rom no root just few apps. Never again moto.
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I still haven't seen any sources online saying that jelly bean will not be coming to the Xyboard/Xoom 2?
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big ach said:
I still haven't seen any sources online saying that jelly bean will not be coming to the Xyboard/Xoom 2?
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Common sense?
I feel for all you guys who, like me, are bitterly disappointed by Moto's lack of updates for the Xoom 2, and the seemingly pointless hope that there will ever be custom ROMs for this device.
I purchased my Xoom 2 over a year ago, and had to wait an eternity for the update from HC to ICS. I shouldn't have bothered waiting. I'm not a dev, so I don't know the intricate details of the Android workings....all I can say is that, in my opinion, the stock ROM is utter, utter, monumental rubbish!
My tab is laggy, unstable and generally unpleasant to use on a daily basis. In fact, it's been lying in my bag for about 2 weeks with a flat battery, and I can't even be bothered to charge it.
I now have a complete loathing for anything Moto, and I will never recommend a Moto device to anyone.
I saw some posts some time ago, which said that Moto took an eternity to release ICS because they wanted to make it "stable" and "bug free"....FAIL! It still has problems with the browser randomly closing while mid session, and as mentioned before, it's painfully laggy.
I'm going to try a complete wipe and factory reset to see if I can salvage the £300+ I spent on this POS, but I'm not feeling optimistic.
If anyone has any suggestions, then I would be grateful to hear them.....please don't suggest selling it, I'm seriously debating that now LOL
Good luck guys...and thanks for nothing Moto
The Android Update Alliance was dead on arrival. None of the OEMs stuck to it and no one apparently took it seriously.
Its a real shame that OEMS fail to support products properly and its one of the biggest reasons ill be sticking to Nexus devices in the future.
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^Pretty much even I don't remember the promise...
What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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big ach said:
What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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So Far my Nexus 1 was until the devs couldnt shoe horn in the latest os version to the limited memory on the device.
They are still working magic with the xoom wifi 604.
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So Far my Nexus 1 was until the devs couldnt shoe horn in the latest os version to the limited memory on the device.
They are still working magic with the xoom wifi 604.
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I think he's talking about from the OEM.
Nexus one was released on Android 2.1 in January of 2010 and upgraded up to 2.3.6 in September 2011 (~21 months).
Nexus S released on 2.3 in December 2010. Its final update was 4.1 in October 2012 (~22 months).
And the Xoom, while not a Nexus, had the GED wifi version released in late March of 2011 on 3.x. It was updated to 4.1 in July 2012 I believe (~18 months).
So across the board, Google has stuck to their minimum of 18 months of updates.
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What's the general life cycle of a nexus device? Like is there a standard?
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3 major updates + X amount of bug fixes give or take.
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I think he's talking about from the OEM.
Nexus one was released on Android 2.1 in January of 2010 and upgraded up to 2.3.6 in September 2011 (~21 months).
Nexus S released on 2.3 in December 2010. Its final update was 4.1 in October 2012 (~22 months).
And the Xoom, while not a Nexus, had the GED wifi version released in late March of 2011 on 3.x. It was updated to 4.1 in July 2012 I believe (~18 months).
So across the board, Google has stuck to their minimum of 18 months of updates.
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3 major updates + X amount of bug fixes give or take.
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Honeycomb, Ice Cream Sandwich, Jellybean. 18 months was up in October 2012. I'd say we got all that we could, particularly since the Xoom had a really small system partition from the start. Fortunately there are some great developers making 4.2.1 work near flawlessly on the Xoom.
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The thing about the Xoom is that each step, from 3.x to 4.0 and 4.0 to 4.1, it saw MAJOR improvements. Honeycomb was just genuinely bad, no surprise there as it was essentially a closed beta. ICS unified 2.3 and 3.x. For users that went straight from 2.3 to 4.0 (i.e. most phones that upgraded), they didn't really see a very large performance upgrade. But for users on 3.x like us, it was HUGE. I remember when it came out. It gave the tablet new life. Conversely I remember a lot of phone users being irritated by it because of the huge UI change (and very little, if any perceivable performance upgrade, as 2.3 was already a reasonably stable OS).
And then 4.1 introduced project butter which improved performance across the board and again, new life in our aging device.
I'd like to say that 24 months should be the standard, but really with how fast hardware improves and with a new Android release roughly twice a year, I can understand the 18 month policy.
It did the Xoom wonders. If you didn't experience it much or don't recall, flash back to a 3.x rom. That **** was just bad. I'm pretty content with my Xoom staying on 4.1 for the foreseeable future.
The LTE Xoom remains a tragedy (though mine is still chugging along) and it is the MAIN reason the Google merger and all of this banter about a Motorola X phone doesn't mean crap to me.
I hold Motorola and Google (and Verizon) responsible for this lie of a tablet. No official Jelly Bean is pathetic. Truly pathetic.
I can't wait to get a Note.
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I can't wait to get a Note.
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Good luck. Samsung and other OEMs are no better when it comes to updates (except maybe Asus and Acer).
For instance, Samsung abandoned the 2011 galaxy tab 10.1 at Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0).
Updates, updates, updates...it's all you generally hear on these forums. Don't forget the only way anyone makes any money in Androidville is through HARDWARE. If Moto or whoever update Xoom2 to current Android version, how are they gonna sell Xoom3 and Xoom4 and Xoom X or whatever they're going to call it?
Honestly, think about how these people make money and it's a no brainer. I got a Xoom as I knew it was a GED and got WI-Fi as the GSM/CDMA/LTE versions never get updates (historically). But at the end of the day you make the decision to buy the hardware knowing that in 2 yrs the HARDWARE won't be able to keep up anyway and will have to be replaced (Xoom getting bit long in the tooth now but is suprisingly robust IMHO).
If you get updates for all of eternity then what motivation do you have to purchase a new device?