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[DISCUSS] Potential next phone? Sony's Xperia Play (PSPhone) is coming to Verizon.

http://www.wirefly.com/learn/resour.../sony-ericsson-xperia-play-vs-apple-iphone-4/
It looks like the playstation phone will be on big red. I was going to wait until year's end and pick up whatever dual core monster is out there that i really like, but with the exception of this phone only being single core, it does have a lot of what I wanted anyways and more.
1. two cameras
2. Android 2.3
3. Playstation controls
4. Newly announced Playstation Network store/studio or whatever the Android link up is called.
I think this will be a great phone.
Anyone know any history of the sony android phones? good/bad/unrootable/etc?
Definitely make the emulators far more controllable.

superchunkwii said:
Anyone know any history of the sony android phones? good/bad/unrootable/etc?
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As far as I'm aware, there is no history of this kind yet...but their others are rootable. I'm sure however, like the ps3, their psp android variant will be difficult to root...at first.

Xperia Play Confirmed for Verizon
Xperia Play just got released at Sony's Ericsson's MWC conference and it's confirmed for Verizon and start shipping in March! Unfortunately specs haven't be released yet and it's still made by Sony Ericsson, .
But i'm not going to lie, I'm kind of excited and want it to do well.
Xperia Play

Neat, thanks for the info.

Bummed...I guess I'll be switching to Verizon.
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"Sony held the Sony Ericsson's MWC 2011 press event today, where they finally revealed the long-rumored PlayStation-inspired phone. Labeled the Xperia Play, the device utilizes Google's Android Gingerbread platform, is "PlayStation certified," and is on the Verizon Network.
"This Spring, expect to see a lot of people with their heads down and thumbs up," said Sony Ericsson's marketing head for North America, Peter Farmer. "Xperia Play combined with the power of the Verizon Wireless network gives you everything you need in a smartphone and the one thing you want – the ultimate gaming experience."
Due out this March, the phone will launch with 50 downloadable titles, play PSN games, and eventually be able to host original PlayStation titles. Sony's Kazuo Hirai teases that the phone will come pre-installed with a "legendary PS One title." My money is on Final Fantasy VII. The Xperia play will also come with Asphalt Adrenaline 6, Bruce Lee, Star Battalion, The Sims 3, and Tetris already on it.
Other games will include EA's FIFA series and the Android version of Dead Space. The phone is capable of utilizing Epic's Unreal Engine. Sony is also partnering with Unity Technologies to bring their Unity Engine to the Xperia Play. Approximately 350,000 games exist that utilize this engine, and this tech would allow those titles to be ported to the device.
Other stats:
-60 frames-per-second via the Snapdragon 1Ghz processor
-Adreno 205 graphical processor
-4-inch multi-touch display
-Four-way d-pad
-Alphabetical keys
-Left and right shoulder buttons
-Dual analog touch pads to mimic analog sticks
-5.0 megapixel camera"
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Sony Ericsson's new Xperia Play smart phone may be supported by PlayStation games, but that doesn't mean that existing fans will have a leg up if they buy the phone.
GameSpot talked to Nathan Vautier, managing director of Sony Ericsson UK and Ireland, who admitted that any content previously purchased through the PSN store will have to be re-bought for the phone. "[Xperia Play owners] will have to re-purchase games, so it's not totally integrated."
One of the advantages of the Android-based phone is its ability to play PlayStation titles, and the phone will launch in March with 50 games available. Sony is already teasing that the device will come installed with a "legendary PSone title.
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SOURCE: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/02/13/sony-details-xperia-play.aspx
I Have the game informer mag. It says the PSone title will be Crash Bandicoot.

It might be coming to AT&T as well. I know Rogers is getting it up here in Canada, and we're DEFINITELY NOT CDMA. It would only make sense for AT&T to pick up the GSM version as well, but what do I know?

superchunkwii said:
anyone know any history of the sony android phones? good/bad/unrootable/etc?
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I have the X10, it was rooted.
Sony had a hard time with updates (untimely/didn't give us basic features/said features were impossible) but in all honesty they have done ok with updates...
We ended up getting 720p with the 2.1 update (long after 2.2 was out, we got an old OS Sony claimed was better than stock 2.2), we ended up getting glitched dualtouch after Sony told us it would never happen, and most recently they announced we will be getting 2.3.3 later in the year.
They say with the way Sony built their 2.3 ROMs they can provide more timely updates because they left it closer to stock Android.
Sony's support is really odd, they aren't truthful, they are behind the competition, but they do seem to work on the phones, they will probably update, I just don't know how timely it will be.
The Play looks promising, but the ROM will probably feel sluggish and don't count on Sony for anything wonderful, that will come from XDA Devs.
But I give Sony credit, they appear to be moving towards a more open concept with the new lines, they are unlocking the bootloader so updates will happen, from them or XDA, it will happen.

Latest rumor is that the Verizon version will be stock Android, and even the engadget preview of the Verizon version is stock android. The bigger question is whether the Verizon version will have a locked bootloader...

I am chomping at the bit for this phone!

yet we still have no info and date and price

Sony has finished Acquiring SE, Renamed;

Sony has finished acquiring Sony Ericsson.
Sony has renamed the company Sony Mobile Communications.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2501...ill_rename_as_sony_mobile_communications.html
S.M.C = Sony Mobile Communications.
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I'm sorta interested in this because it could mean a lot more branded franchises coming to PS-Certified devices, but at the same time, this could mean Sony Ericsson's awesome ad campaigns (ex: Kristen Schaal <3) would be replaced by *big Sony's* traditionally ****ty counter-productive ads, alongside their awful marketing decisions and insane limitations.
Sony Ericsson provided a LOT of liberty with the Xperia PLAY that probably wouldn't fly with *big Sony* in control.
Unknown Sources was an option without any kind of fight, we got a standardized expansion media format, standardized connection cable, access to the official market... I'm just sayin', would it surprise anyone if this takeover meant our oh-so desired "Xperia PLAY 2" came with some piece of **** proprietary cable? ...or outrageously-priced proprietary memory, some atrocious marketing, total bootloader lockdown with the stock ROM stripped of it's unknown sources option and forced integration far more intrusive than anything we ever got with TimeScape?

Love kristen schaal. xD I made my face, out of dirt, pretty good for a dirt face.
Not sure how I feel, sure we'll still see great xperia phones either way. Might just see them differently if sony decides to change the advertising.

You can see straight away Sony is going with power, But yeah I can see Sony devices taking over imo, Sony Xperia S is pretty cool imo, I want it lol.

SirRudolph said:
Love kristen schaal. xD I made my face, out of dirt, pretty good for a dirt face.
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I thought she has a face of a pigeon

TLRtheory said:
I'm sorta interested in this because it could mean a lot more branded franchises coming to PS-Certified devices, but at the same time, this could mean Sony Ericsson's awesome ad campaigns (ex: Kristen Schaal <3) would be replaced by *big Sony's* traditionally ****ty counter-productive ads, alongside their awful marketing decisions and insane limitations.
Sony Ericsson provided a LOT of liberty with the Xperia PLAY that probably wouldn't fly with *big Sony* in control.
Unknown Sources was an option without any kind of fight, we got a standardized expansion media format, standardized connection cable, access to the official market... I'm just sayin', would it surprise anyone if this takeover meant our oh-so desired "Xperia PLAY 2" came with some piece of **** proprietary cable? ...or outrageously-priced proprietary memory, some atrocious marketing, total bootloader lockdown with the stock ROM stripped of it's unknown sources option and forced integration far more intrusive than anything we ever got with TimeScape?
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From the looks of things with the S and P tablets, none of this has appeared. Bar the non-standard design, they have played it fairly cool.

Logseman said:
From the looks of things with the S and P tablets, none of this has appeared. Bar the non-standard design, they have played it fairly cool.
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I think them tablets and don't have bootloader unlock (just got root) but you don't need bootloader unlock unless you want to flash a custom kernel.
My idea: Same workers, same people, same initiatives, maybe they dropped the "E" in SEMC, but it is still pronounced almost the same SMC LOL.
Anyway, previous phone was a HTC Wildfire (I loved it - apart from limitations and bootloader locked without OFFICIAL unlock method for two years) and it was okay. My next phone will be a samsung or HTC, maybe the Xperia S, but not if it has a hidden boot partition and no recovery partition - I need these to flash kernels on the go and also to get into recovery...
Although, I don't know, I will probably keep my play for another year and a half or so
A second phone would be nice though
Keiran

I don't care as long as they don't start sue-ing people for rooting our phones. lol.
Fma965 - Forgottencoders.co.uk

it was always Sony at the reigns anyways, so not much will change i think.

[OnLive]The Witcher 2 running in Xperia Play (Screenshots)

This images are an little blurry, because of the video streaming, but is very enjoyable for playing on the Xplay. Anyone can download the OnLive and play for 30 minutes The Witcher 2 many times for free. Also, you can pay for the monthly subscription Playpack plan by $9.99 and get The Witcher 2 and many others full games.
OnLive is a company offering a cloud gaming platform and a cloud desktop system.Both offerings are synchronized, rendered, and stored on remote servers and delivered via the Internet.
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Onlive is Avaliable On Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onlive.client
Note: Despite it being optimized for the Xperia Play, curiously appears as unsupported. However, you can easily find the application in parallel markets.

If it doesn't show up as listed, try changing all instances of "R800i" to "R800a" in your build.prop.
When I first flashed NXT, it changed my system to be read as a R800i, and a good chunk of things I install simply did not show up. On R800a, about the only confirmed-optimized game that won't show up right is Sonic 4 (only Episode 1, Episode 2 shows up).

TLRtheory said:
If it doesn't show up as listed, try changing all instances of "R800i" to "R800a" in your build.prop.
When I first flashed NXT, it changed my system to be read as a R800i, and a good chunk of things I install simply did not show up. On R800a, about the only confirmed-optimized game that won't show up right is Sonic 4 (only Episode 1, Episode 2 shows up).
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Thank you for this tip! =)

I think Onlive is so underrated in these forums as its really the best thing that ever happened to Xperia Play. It's exactly the root that Nvidia are taking with their Project Shield and Nvidia Grid service but is more portable and has been around for over a year.
I have been an avid fan from day 1 and it's what I play on my Xperia 80% of the time (90% the way through Assissins Creed 2 at the mo). Love the fact I can play when I am out on my phone and then pick it straight up on my PC when home (not to mention I don't have GB's worth of game data stored locally). The only bad side is the lack of L3,R3 and the amount of games released but still enough to be getting on with.
People always whinge about lag with new Android games but if you have good net and use this, you can play new top end PC standard games without the single core of the Xperia Play ticking over barely.
At the end of the day when all development has stopped for Xperia Play, Onlive will be turning out more and more titles (as long as the service is running) that are all (mostly) optimized for are gamepad and will keep this awesome smart phone future proof.
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This app works great, some games REQUIRE some sort of controller, but they all run great. Internet is required and it won't work over 3g. All the games are paid but most offer a 30 minute trial. It's free to sign up though. I tried dirt3 and wings of prey, both ran flawless and looked just like pc version. Good app overall.
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Xperia Play (vs) One Touch Idol Ultra

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I'm doing this comparaison because I'm about to swap my Xperia Play with Alcatel One Touch Idol Ultra.
Any reasons to stick with Xperia Play ?

........It's not Alcatel
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If ya dont need physical buttons and need more powah - indeed better to swap.
I will keep my play, even with lack of power for games, cuz touchscreen is awful controller for games, and i like that many functions(mediaplayer, game console, phone) united in one small enough device.
If ya not fan of hardware control - ya can swap.

I'd stay with the Play until it dies if I'm honest, it's still a really solid phone.

D.Spirit said:
Any reasons to stick with Xperia Play ?
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Unless you are not playing PSXperia, EPSXE or FPSE games (for that xPlay will be good enough forever), be free to upgrade your phone to any newest that you can buy...
Comparing hardware of 2013 and 2011 is just... Not comparable... Ofcorse new hardware will better then the old one, the question is, is old hardware good enough for your taste?
I am also planning on buying new phone in next few months (maybe Xperia L or SP), but xPlay will remain my PSX game platform (And it was her main purpose in the last one and the half year). Untill it die...

Keep your play 4 ever
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"Any reasons to stick with Xperia Play ?"
You gotta be kidding me. Nothing, Absolutely nothing beats a controller when it comes to gaming. The mere sight of a smart phone that doesn't at least have a keyboard makes me throw up. I absolutely hate touch screen keyboards also, but that's something I realize I have to live with when it comes to modern day phones. My last phone was an N900 which had a keyboard, that was like 4 yrs ago. My current phone is now the xperia play and will be until i see another device with a controller or keyboard built in.
Just goes to show how much i hate touch screen only devices.

Thank you guys for replying and sharing me your opinions.
And to be honest, I lost my interest in gaming on mobiles since I bought an Xbox 360 ( 3 mounths ago ).
The only problem with this alcatel is it does not have a development forum here, so I think I will only miss custom ROMs, other than that I don't think I will regret my decision.

D.Spirit said:
Thank you guys for replying and sharing me your opinions.
And to be honest, I lost my interest in gaming on mobiles since I bought an Xbox 360 ( 3 mounths ago ).
The only problem with this alcatel is it does not have a development forum here, so I think I will only miss custom ROMs, other than that I don't think I will regret my decision.
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Sounds reasonable.
Im looking at the upgrading this way: what do I gain from 3 extra CPU cores ? Does it enable me many new possibilities ?
Does more GPU power/better graphics matter if I cant enjoy the game ?
IMO, Xplay has too small RAM and internal memory but I dont see any huge benefits in upgrading to new phone.
I bought a tablet that is decently powered but again, I dont see a huge added benefit of the power. Its mostly visible in web browsing.

Hope for xperia play 2

Just read this from yahoo news. Sony is pulling the plug on PSP because it is loosing to smartphones.
Hopefully they will make Xperia Play2
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sony-stop-selling-playstation-portable-074000665.html

zaku2s said:
Just read this from yahoo news. Sony is pulling the plug on PSP because it is loosing to smartphones.
Hopefully they will make Xperia Play2
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sony-stop-selling-playstation-portable-074000665.html
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This is interesting. Since Sony are stopping making portable gaming consoles due to the loss of sales (because of smartphones apparently) maybe sony can make a smartphone that is both good to use as a phone and as a gaming device, the xperia play 2!
Though wasn't the main reason sony ditched the play because of how it conflicted with their psp sales? So we can only hope i guess

That's just the end of life of the PSP. It's been for a long time on the market. I haven't expected it to be still produced to be honest. Either way - I'm not really sure about the Xperia Play 2. I'd love to see that, but not if they'd treat it like our old xperia play, which is still a great device for me.

I'm buying an iPhone 5S this week from Swappa. I've never wanted an iPhone, but I have 2 iPad's and a lot of iOS games purchased. This is going to be awesome.
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-controllers/razer-junglecat?src=pgm.81594800
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If the PS Vita were selling well, I think it would be possible. But an Xplay 2 now will be definitely sentence the vita to death, that's why I think sony will stay with the idea of a new Xplay on the closet for some more time.

you see sony is so backwards! They didnt want to make the xperia play 2 in the first place because they were worried about the xperia play 2 interfering with psp and vita sales and now there killing the psp because its killing there xperia sales maybe? make up your minds or more importantly make the xperia play 2! People want a multi device these days not just games, people want to call on the same device that they play hardcore games on.

zaku2s said:
Just read this from yahoo news. Sony is pulling the plug on PSP because it is loosing to smartphones.
Hopefully they will make Xperia Play2
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sony-stop-selling-playstation-portable-074000665.html
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xdarkmario said:
you see sony is so backwards! They didnt want to make the xperia play 2 in the first place because they were worried about the xperia play 2 interfering with psp and vita sales and now there killing the psp because its killing there xperia sales maybe? make up your minds or more importantly make the xperia play 2!
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I don't know if you haven't read the article or if you just don't know the difference between a PSP and a PSVita. If Sony is stopping selling PSP is because it's a console presented ten years ago! It has nothing to do with the smartphones.
xdarkmario said:
People want a multi device these days not just games, people want to call on the same device that they play hardcore games on.
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That's not true. Just look at the crazy numbers of sales that Nintendo is having with their handheld.
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I'm buying an iPhone 5S this week from Swappa. I've never wanted an iPhone, but I have 2 iPad's and a lot of iOS games purchased. This is going to be awesome.
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-controllers/razer-junglecat?src=pgm.81594800
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I understand the purchase if you say that you have a lot of titles bought for iOS, but this controller is simply horrible. Too little, no analogs... How the hell can this be for hardcore gaming?