Can anyone confirm if these bands will work of AT&T? I found an unlocked HD2 with these bands, and bands for AUS, and need to know if they will allow this HD2 to use the 3G data service of AT&T.
GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz|HSDPA 900/2100MHz, 850/2100MHz (Australia)
This is what the overview says in the features list:
3G speed
Offers quick and easy connection speeds.
Operates on quad-band GSM/HSDPA wireless networks
For reliable wireless communication.
I don't think so because if I recall ATT needs 850/1900 for 3G.
It does look like it will work on tmobile 3G though.
orangekid said:
I don't think so because if I recall ATT needs 850/1900 for 3G.
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That would be a good reason to return it then. It's advertised as working on all data networks and has a quad band HSDPA radio in it. If I can't get it to work on AT&T, I will return it for a refund.
Thanks for the reply, by the way.
MartyLK said:
That would be a good reason to return it then. It's advertised as working on all data networks and has a quad band HSDPA radio in it. If I can't get it to work on AT&T, I will return it for a refund.
Thanks for the reply, by the way.
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"working on all data networks" is correct, but not 3G. Any unlocked phone works on all data networks, but not all UMTS/HSPA networks. The quad band aspect of it is because it apparently works in Aussie and Tmobile, but from what I see there not on ATT
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I have been using the Touch Dual here in the US for a few months, and love it. I need to switch carriers. Will the Touch Dual work on the Sprint network in the US? What other carriers will work?
Thanks.
GSM networks only, so your only option is AT&T.
acwyau said:
GSM networks only, so your only option is AT&T.
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T-Mobile and AT&T are the only GSM carriers in the US. I don't know if Boost Mobile is or not.
I just picked a phone up unlocked on ebay and am using it on the AT&T network, only issue i've learnt of just now is AT&T uses a different band for the 3g than the touch dual does so i only recieve edge no 3g since its a different band, from what i've been told tmobile is offering it on the same band.
erandhawa said:
I just picked a phone up unlocked on ebay and am using it on the AT&T network, only issue i've learnt of just now is AT&T uses a different band for the 3g than the touch dual does so i only recieve edge no 3g since its a different band, from what i've been told tmobile is offering it on the same band.
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ATT operates on both 850 and 1900 bands. I had my niki working on it until I recently switched to TMobile. You're SOL if the ATT signal in your area is 850 because the Niki doesn't support it. TMobile doesn't us the 850 band so you would be better switching to them. I get a much stronger signal with them.
eyecrispy said:
ATT operates on both 850 and 1900 bands. I had my niki working on it until I recently switched to TMobile. You're SOL if the ATT signal in your area is 850 because the Niki doesn't support it. TMobile doesn't us the 850 band so you would be better switching to them. I get a much stronger signal with them.
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Niki doesn't support 1900 for 3g either though, how were you getting 3g if you don't mind me asking, maybe you have one of the Australia Versions? Probably gonna have to take your advice on switching, just on such a good rate plan only paying 24.99 for unlimited internet, hopefully a radio patch can help us soon or maybe AT&T and T-Mobile will share towers i know its been discussed between the companies in the past to help increase coverage (usually leads to merger though so i doubt it'll happen with such large corporations)
Please let me know if it works on AT&T..
Thanks.
this has been covered ad nauseum. Learn to use the search function. The t8282 will work for gsm, you will only get edge no 3g
if you get the t8285, and are on the att network in a market where they offer 3g on the 850mhz band, then you'll get 3g, otherwise only edge.
Other gsm operators in the US you won't get 3g, only edge on either model.
As mentioned U need the t8285 for usa 3g...what carrier do U have now?
The Telstra Next G versions will work on HSDPA with AT&T. So if you can source one of these from here, go for it
topher1976 said:
The Telstra Next G versions will work on HSDPA with AT&T. So if you can source one of these from here, go for it
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IF ATT uses the 850mhz band in your market.
DRTigerlilly said:
IF ATT uses the 850mhz band in your market.
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The AT&T UMTS850 network is the same as Telstra's Next G network in Australia.
topher1976 said:
The AT&T UMTS850 network is the same as Telstra's Next G network in Australia.
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Yes but ATT doesn't use the 850 band in all places in the US, though they are trying to move to the band, you'll want to check what band they use for 3g in your area & if not already rolled out, if there are plans to.
I have searched through many posts and cannot seem to find many others with the same issues. I unlocked my TMobile US HD2 and have been using it on ATT. Now, I understand the 3g connection problem and how you're limited to Edge, but what I do not understand is that in the Band selector, there is the option for 1900/850. Isn't 850 ATT US's operating frequency for 3G? If so, why shouldn't this phone be able to connect?
you have the data bands and voice bands mixed up
its a quad band phone, for voice, but doesn't support all of atts data bands , only tmobiles , therefore, you get to use edge only on att, not 3g
know what i sayin?
Yeah. Makes sense. Explains why it doesn't say UMTS 850. Lol.
Thanks!
Hey guys,
Looking at pre-ordering the unlocked version of the DVP from Clove but I'm not sure whether it is going to work in Canada =/.
I've looked at all the Canadian cell phone providers (Telus, Fido, Bell, Rogers) and it doesn't seem like they are compatible with the 3G band on the Dell Venue Pro (900/2100).
Canadian providers seem to require 850/1900 or 1700.
So uh...is it worth buying the phone? Anyone think it will work?
Does the phone need to be 3G compatible to work? (Telus seems to say that your phone NEEDS to be 3G+ compatible).
Thanks,
-Sean
Se4nH4x said:
Hey guys,
Looking at pre-ordering the unlocked version of the DVP from Clove but I'm not sure whether it is going to work in Canada =/.
I've looked at all the Canadian cell phone providers (Telus, Fido, Bell, Rogers) and it doesn't seem like they are compatible with the 3G band on the Dell Venue Pro (900/2100).
Canadian providers seem to require 850/1900 or 1700.
So uh...is it worth buying the phone? Anyone think it will work?
Does the phone need to be 3G compatible to work? (Telus seems to say that your phone NEEDS to be 3G+ compatible).
Thanks,
-Sean
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NOP.. it wont work.. it works but no 3g u would pick EDGE.. UK are 900/2100
ajftl said:
NOP.. it wont work.. it works but no 3g u would pick EDGE.. UK are 900/2100
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is 3G necessary for smartphones?
I've never had a smartphone before. right now I'm just using an old flip phone.
Would the phone need to have 3G in order for me to bring it to a carrier and add a sim card + plan?
Se4nH4x said:
is 3G necessary for smartphones?
I've never had a smartphone before. right now I'm just using an old flip phone.
Would the phone need to have 3G in order for me to bring it to a carrier and add a sim card + plan?
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Yea, 3G would be pretty much a necessity, as the next best available connection you would get is edge, which is much slower.
For $989 this site claims to have a Telstra NextG compatible version up for grabs:
http://www.mobicity.com.au/dell-venue-pro.html
I have been using a Telstra HD2 on Telus which gives me 3G+ for a while so I would assume this one would also work. But then again I could be wrong as the bands don't look right..
So it does work if i only use for 2G cell phone service with Fido (no internet), right?
I can use WIFI only.
pistol44 said:
For $989 this site claims to have a Telstra NextG compatible version up for grabs:
http://www.mobicity.com.au/dell-venue-pro.html
I have been using a Telstra HD2 on Telus which gives me 3G+ for a while so I would assume this one would also work. But then again I could be wrong as the bands don't look right..
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That phone has 900/1900/2100 3G bands which is not supported in Canada.
You need 850 or 1700 for it to work in Canada >.>
Se4nH4x said:
That phone has 900/1900/2100 3G bands which is not supported in Canada.
You need 850 or 1700 for it to work in Canada >.>
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no your wroung,
you need 850/1900 UMTS/HSPA if you want to use rogers, fido, bell, telus, virgin, koodo, on 3g
you need 850/1900 GSM if you want to use rogers/fido with no 3g
if you want to use wind mobile you need 1700/2100 UMTS/HSPA (same as t-mobile)
jul644 said:
no your wroung,
you need 850/1900 UMTS/HSPA if you want to use rogers, fido, bell, telus, virgin, koodo, on 3g
you need 850/1900 GSM if you want to use rogers/fido with no 3g
if you want to use wind mobile you need 1700/2100 UMTS/HSPA (same as t-mobile)
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well my point was that it has no supported 3G bands.
I want to take full advantage of 3G.
Finally!
Got official info!
http://www.dell.com/us/p/mobile-venue-pro/pd
Bands
UMTS 900/1700/2100
GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
HSDPA 7.2Mbps/HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
There's that 1700/2100 that I need!
Yay!
I have am htc surround unlocked from at&t and using it currently with t-mobile everything works fine however the 3g is not working is there any configuration for the apn our something that I need to do to make it work please somebody help me.....
No. The hardware is different.
T mobile and at&t use different frequency for 3g data.
Unfortunately surround only support at&t frequency so u can't use 3g on t mobile network.
if i not mistaken the htc surround supports lte 4g.... so you might be able to
im not sure you might have to wait for a update
MackDaddyC said:
if i not mistaken the htc surround supports lte 4g.... so you might be able to
im not sure you might have to wait for a update
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Not true. The Surround does NOT support 4G LTE.
In reply to the OP, the Surround isn't getting 3G on T-Mobile because it only supports AT&T's 3G bands. Carriers do that so you cannot use the phone elsewhere if you try to weasel out of your contract. If you bought it off-contract, you should have stuck with AT&T because there is no configuration or any setting that exists that will get the Surround to use T-Mobile's 3G.
If you need 3G, you should probably consider returning the phone if you still have the chance and go get the HD7 instead.
Hardware
The Data bands used for AT&T are different yes, but this phone is a data quad band phone, so the antenna should be able to pick up the signal for T-Mobile or AT&T. It should be no more than a configuration issue. Both the HD 7 for T-Mobile and the Surround for AT&T have the same radio for data reception (/us/products/compare/120-121?view=1-1&sort=0&filters=0-11-0). Add www and htc and dotcom to the link.
Nope.
ATT offers UMTS or 3G using 850mhz(the old TDMA band) and 1900mhz.
While T-mobile offers HSDPA (technically 3.5g part of the UMTS specification) using 1700MHz for uplink and 2100MHz downlink.
The Surround would have to be 850/1700/1900/2100 3G and 850/1900 GSM (voice) to work on T-Mo's 3G.