http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoyke/2011/07/29/asus-preparing-second-transformer-tablet/
At first, I was a little mad at this, my Transformer just arrived in the mail today and the first website I went to on my new TF was engadget.com and I saw this headline.
Then, I realized that I probably won't even need a quad core tablet for another couple of years considering that there are only a handful of apps that take advantage of Tegra 2.
Yeah I went into the tablet game knowing full well it would be outdated very quickly. I judged my opinion on my purchase solely based on the streamline performance I saw from the models already available at the time, the xoom, and decided it was going to be enough power for me for a while. But deep down inside it does get to you when you see something newer come out a quarter later!
I also heard today that the price of the Asus Transformer is going to drop on the middle of this month, but they didn't give a price. A reaction to Acer Iconia dropping to $398.
I think that the new screens on the next generation of tablets will be really expensive since they will be 2048x1500 or there abouts.
Don
I guess I'll wait untill after the quad-core gen, I guess that's gonna be next year...
I wonder what will be next after the quads?
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I guess I'll wait untill after the quad-core gen, I guess that's gonna be next year...
I wonder what will be next after the quads?
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more silly performances...
There is this assumption that there really isnt any point of quad cores as Apps arent optimised for them yet.
However, honeycomb itself was designed with multicore processors in mind. Single threaded apps can take advantage of multicore processors by running the app on one core, and other OS services on the other cores.
Even the most basic of tasks can benefit like browsing and gaming.The OS itself can benefit from quad core.
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http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoyke/2011/07/29/asus-preparing-second-transformer-tablet/
At first, I was a little mad at this, my Transformer just arrived in the mail today and the first website I went to on my new TF was engadget.com and I saw this headline.
Then, I realized that I probably won't even need a quad core tablet for another couple of years considering that there are only a handful of apps that take advantage of Tegra 2.
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They are just playing the same game as Apple, updating their product on a yearly refresh cycle.
I won't be updating from Transformer to Transformer 2. I'm very happy with my purchase, and nothing will change that. A few years down the road I may repurchase.
I only hope that Asus don't withhold Android ICS from Transformer to give the Transformer 2 a market advantage (it already has one in it's hardware spec).
I have spent the last 2 weeks trying to decide what android tablet to purchase. I have narrowed my decision between the TF and the GT10.1. I was gonna make my purchase in a week or so, but now, I dont know?! Maybe I should buy one at BB and get the buy back program for it. Damn....
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I have spent the last 2 weeks trying to decide what android tablet to purchase. I have narrowed my decision between the TF and the GT10.1. I was gonna make my purchase in a week or so, but now, I dont know?! Maybe I should buy one at BB and get the buy back program for it. Damn....
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I'd rather have a 3.2 update with no bugs, TBH.
I don't buy this october release date. it makes no sense to put out a new device so early when TF1 sales are rising not falling away. surely asus would want to max out sales of their existing product before launching a successor.
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I don't buy this october release date. it makes no sense to put out a new device so early when TF1 sales are rising not falling away. surely asus would want to max out sales of their existing product before launching a successor.
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After October is December and Christmas;P, so this is a very good time for a new flagship product.
oh and one more thing, If Asus doesn't do this, then another company will. Kal-el is ready, so it is, a matter of time.
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Kal-el is ready, so it is, a matter of time.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I just read a story yesterday (I'll see if I can find the link) saying that the chip will not ship in quantity until 2012.
Underwater Mike said:
I'll believe it when I see it. I just read a story yesterday (I'll see if I can find the link) saying that the chip will not ship in quantity until 2012.
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Please do find it, I'm sat here wanting to order a GTab but am put off by the "Quad Core is almost here" rumours.
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Please do find it, I'm sat here wanting to order a GTab but am put off by the "Quad Core is almost here" rumours.
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I can tell You that Kal-el is ready but creating a tablet with this processor is another and long story.
Oh and i cant tell Y why i know about Kal-el
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I could easily see them selling both the TF and the TF 2 at the same time, just at a lower pricepoint for the TF and a higher price point for the TF 2. It might be that by the time the TF 2 comes out, component costs will have dropped on the TF and they could price it at, say, $349/$449 retail, and then the TF 2 at $449/$549.
That's just idle speculation, of course, but it makes sense to me, particularly if the specs on the TF 2 are crazy good, which I expect them to be.
IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
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IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
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not true ..... if You look into the future, this is the best chocie but it's true that will always be something new and better ... This is the IT world
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IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
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Why? Wouldn't you prefer it if your browser typing had less lag, and the app your were running was not effected by other tasks such as feed updates, etc. More cores impacts both the base OS and apps.
Your Android device WILL BE outdated in 3 months, maximum 6 months no matter what you buy.
I am happy as long as I get the Ice Cream Sandwich running smoothly later this year.
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Why? Wouldn't you prefer it if your browser typing had less lag, and the app your were running was not effected by other tasks such as feed updates, etc. More cores impacts both the base OS and apps.
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This is the same thing ppl said when the tegra2 was announced. The fact is that honeycomb itself is not mature yet.
I agree with the post above saying quad core is useless. It is useless for the time being cause, while the hw techs is advancing at great speed, the software is still lagging behind. why have a quad core when clearly we do not have many tablet applications? i am not talking about the recent api changes in 3.2 so that apps can be stretched... i am talking about special apps made for tablet only. why improve the hw when there is still way to improve in the sw?
browser typing is clearly a bug in the codes. we do not need to get 4 cores to get rid of it. browser typing lag is something we shouldnt be experiencing even in a single core. quad cores coming out in october is quite outrageous especially for us ( living in europe) . i for one, paid approx 450 euros 2 weeks ago for the TF only (without the dock).
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Well getting tired of your Transformer's odd lag maybe you need the next version.
5x Tegra 2 performance...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/04/asus-planning-quad-core-tegra-3-and-intel-based-tablets/
Hope they still have someone working on ours
That'll be nice.
The ultimate tablet would be very fast, snappy, multitask like a champ and play any video you throw at it.
This market moves so fast most shipping devices get left behind.
Wonder what a used Transformer will sell for when the new ones ship?
If it is anything like the Transformer then count me in.
same, I'll hand this one to the misses.
Does the current transformer really lag a lot after putting it through a lot of multitasking? If so, maybe I'll wait for the quadcore one.. I just don't feel like waiting till Oct. lol.
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If it is anything like the Transformer then count me in.
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Asus has said the Transformer will be a line of tablets, and the keyboard dock should be compatible with future tablets.
Winning strategy in my book.
But I just got mine DAMIT!!!!! Not even a week old
I guess I'll be shelling out more money at the end of year. If you look at their road map for the Tegra chip there is one slated from every year until 2014.
Chart under the two video's
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nvidia-announces-quad-core-kal-el-soc-promises-it-in-tablets-by/
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But I just got mine DAMIT!!!!! Not even a week old
I guess I'll be shelling out more money at the end of year. If you look at their road map for the Tegra chip there is one slated from every year until 2014.
Chart under the two video's
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nvidia-announces-quad-core-kal-el-soc-promises-it-in-tablets-by/
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Mind that the Tegra II is a 2010 product... but it's really taking until this year to get good products that have it under the hood.
I'd expect late LATE 2011 before the Tegra III is in tablets, if not early 2012.
And think about it, your Transformer is a great tablet. It will still be working great at the start of 2012!
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Mind that the Tegra II is a 2010 product... but it's really taking until this year to get good products that have it under the hood.
I'd expect late LATE 2011 before the Tegra III is in tablets, if not early 2012.
And think about it, your Transformer is a great tablet. It will still be working great at the start of 2012!
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Yeah I know. I had the Viewsonic G-Tab back in Dec. The first Tegra 2 tablet but I returned them (wife and mine) to staples b/c the screen was super crap and it ran froyo with all the mobile phone components still under the hood.
As long as we have developers to continue giving us the latest software from Google or Asus continues supporting it, I'm cool with the current model for the next year or so.
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Realistically, i think we will be seeing a Tegra 3 tablet this holiday season or somewhere after CES in 2012
If you look at Nvidias release schedule, they plan on releasing a new tegra processor every year, i wont be getting a new tablet every year thats for sure
I am not really that interesting in the quad core factor of the Tegra 3, mostly the increased GPU cores and the inclusion of the NEON instruction set for ARM which really increases performance, it was stupid of them to not include it in Tegra 2
I love how the chart shows "Tegra 2 - 2010" while the modell is not even avaible at half 2011
Tegra 3 - 2012 would be more realistic
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I love how the chart shows "Tegra 2 - 2010" while the modell is not even avaible at half 2011
Tegra 3 - 2012 would be more realistic
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^This I bet it wont be until spring 2012 or later...
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I love how the chart shows "Tegra 2 - 2010" while the modell is not even avaible at half 2011
Tegra 3 - 2012 would be more realistic
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The Viewsonic G Tablet and Malata tablets were out in November of 2010 with a Tegra 2.
^ That.
Plus the Transformer was the first Asus tablet (in the modern sense of the word), they needed time for R&D, etc; I think the fact it's on a Tegra II is a result of nothing better being available earlier this year.
I'm sure once the T3s comes out, they will be much faster to market.
(Don't get me wrong, the Tegra 2 is excellent.)
If Asus releases a Tegra 3 tablet this summer, it will probably be more then $400
My guess around $600
Because it would be stupid to release a new low cost tablet when they just released one in the spring....
This thread reminds me of that one Best Buy commercial with the newer stuff.
They even use tablets at the beginning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o
Gbcue said:
This thread reminds me of that one Best Buy commercial with the newer stuff.
They even use tablets at the beginning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o
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You bought the wrong tablet silly head!
Like others have mentioned, if we see a shipping Tegra 3 tablet before Xmas I'd be floored. Granted the Transformer got most of the R&D out of the way and the tablet intricacies should be mostly ironed out now, I just can't see Asus releasing an updated version within 3 months of their initial tablet release.
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 OR Wait for Tegra Three devices?
I would also allow for you to suggest other devices but please only android and please only 10 inch tablets.
Also the new tegra three devices might not be as thin or good-looking as the samsung which i really care about.
The only reason i like tegra is because of the support it has in the android app developing community so please try to keep the suggestions to tegra devices unless you have a good reason to contradict it.
This is simple for me.
If you can wait, wait.
If not go for it.
I couldn't wait
If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol. When Tegra 3 devices come out, Tegra 4 will be announced. I passed on the galaxy tab to wait for a tegra 2 device and now I hear nvidias "Kal-El" quad core. **** it! I'm going for the Gtab!
lol might as well buy the Samsung now and then sell it once the new one you like comes out. But its true, do you really want to keep waiting? Not I, I'm jumping on June 8th.
Personally I would get one now. You can play the waiting game and never get one as there is always a better one around the corner. You can of course wait but I suspect that you won’t see many better or 4 core tablets announced until CES 2012 next year.
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If you can wait, it means you will NEVER buy a device lol.
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No, if you can wait, it means.... you can wait! I don't know about the rest of you, but I've lived my life just fine without a table. It will be a cool toy to have, but I don't NEED one. Tech gadgets are always progressing, but the tablet market is currently moving at a very fast pace. Tegra 3 is supposed to be out later this year, and is supposed to be 5x the performance. That's a much more significant performance/time ratio than other more "mature" tech products. If you can wait, then there's certainly something to be said for jumping on when the curve flattens out a little. What I do will depend a lot on pricing.
i think it's worth waiting... tegra3 pre production chips allready shipped to manyfacturers, mass production starts around august. motorola and probably asus will be releasing products short after ( promising releases before back-to-school time )
this means that you can, in theory, own a quad core beast in within 3 to 4 months months...
and they are realy fast, throw your pc and your mediaplayers out of the window and start using your tablet instead
perhaps you can invest in a program like best buy's buy back program, so when something new comes out, you can trade in your old and get the new for cheap
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
Take Samsung for example, think of the time and money that has been spent building and promoting their new tablets around the world. I really don't see them coming out with any new tablets at the end of the year even if they had the new teleology. they first need to make a profit.
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If you pay attention to the market it doesn't look that way. I personally think we wont see anything better then whats out now until next year. Most of these company's still need to make money off the products that are currently on the market.
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Asus, Motorola, and Amazon (and probably others) are all rumored to have Tegra 3 tablets by the end of the year. You can't make much money off of the products you currently have on the market if they are obsoleted by new products your competitors are offering.
I'm going to revise my initial answer.
If you're asking the question "Should I wait?". You should wait.
After the iPad released last year, I started trying to imagine, what exactly I would use a tablet for. Once I was a bit settled on what I wanted to do with it, I started looking for something that would match my needs.
When the 10.1v was announced I realised it was a match and I eagerly went after it.
Maybe you should wait until you are certain that the tablet you are buying is a match for your requirements.
I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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I WILL WAIT FOR GALAXY TAB VERSION No 47
The only thing I am not sure if I really will enjoy it 38 yrs. + 47 yrs waiting V47
ENJOY THE PRESENT!!!!!
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lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-light
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
-brilliant batery (i charge it each night but it only gets down to 30-50% after full day of use)
-netbook replacment (people will argue this but i haven't found a netbook more fun then this, and you can put debian on it )
-casual gaming (not sure of anything on the market you cannotplay onit except porley designed games that are just tiny boxs)
Things it isn't:
-high def cinema (you can run standard def fine and it looks great but if you are obsesd with 720P wait)
-ipad (yer thats a pritty good reason )
-high end device (tegra 2 is fun and all but nexus s still out performes all tegra 2 devices so if you want the bigest and best wait for qualcomm)
In conclusion if you want a great device that doesn't need to be compared to a PC (which i hate that thats were we uave goten in tablets) then go pick one up, but if your after a device that you want to luanch thermal nucular war with wait for qualcomm.
Note: bad spelling is becuase i'm dislexcic(fail i know thats wroung but cannot remember the correct spelling)
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good try with the spelling lol
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I run the 10.1v and love it.
Things it is:
-sexy (please no 3.5mm jokes)
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Ahh. You're more into the 30 pin connector then?
I'll stop short of making a crack about the shape of said connector
I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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I was really looking forward to GT10.1 but no luck.
It has Tegra 2 inside which is no good for me and has no sd slot which is also no good for me.
I do want a tablet like this but I do have a purpose in getting one - it has to replace my netbook.
Meaning I want to watch 720p mkv without re encoding, netflix, etc...
So far non of the tablets (including iPad2) can do what I want.
If I would be to take one now just to have it Asus Transformer seems like a better choice.
There is an sd slot on it, there is a great dock with batt. for it and looks like it will be/is cheaper.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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As far as i know, the Xoom plays 720p mkv with Moboplayer just fine. I haven't tested this myself but i have read about it in Xoom forum.
If you want, i can test this for you, just point me to a video to test.
And 3G GT10.1 has a sdcard slot.
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Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
galtom said:
Have u got fileserve or filesonic account?
I do hope that 3G GT10.1 will be different from wifi only but I dont think this will include cpu :-(
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Unfortunately no.
Anyone who just recently purchased this device debating a return following this news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-kal-el-quad-core-tablets-coming-fall-phones-early-2012
Just looking for what people's take is on this. I tend to debate my buying decisions until I can't return the device haha.
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Anyone who just recently purchased this device debating a return following this news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-kal-el-quad-core-tablets-coming-fall-phones-early-2012
Just looking for what people's take is on this. I tend to debate my buying decisions until I can't return the device haha.
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I too read and saw all those kal-el quad core, and was quite excited. But again, the technology changes the moment something new comes in the market.
On side note, I got $100 price match @ BB for 32gb + $60 reward certificate. So no buyers remorse here.
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Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Agreed......
Zargon335 said:
Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Name one device that will be on store shelves within 30 days that is based on Tegra 3. (If you can't, then it is YOU who are incorrect in saying that "tegra 3 is coming out NOW".)
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Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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same here. only thing is that i don't see a real use for quad core yet as nothing has taxed 2 cores yet - other than benchmarks and having to software decode some videos. where are the apps that will need this kind of power?
5thElement said:
Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Every one of your posts are negative. If tegra 3 takes as long as tegra 2 took to come out, we are looking at a possible release of maybe late next year. I doubt NVIDIA would be dumb enough to release it now when their tegra 2 chips are selling like mad.
Tegra 3 may be coming but since not one device has been announced or even leaked I'll bet it's at least another three month till we see a new tegra 3 tablet. I wouldn't hold my breath, it's maybe even more realistic that the device makers wait for the Christmas sale.
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Every one of your posts are negative. If tegra 3 takes as long as tegra 2 took to come out, we are looking at a possible release of maybe late next year. I doubt NVIDIA would be dumb enough to release it now when their tegra 2 chips are selling like mad.
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Whaaaa??? Tegra 2 has been out for over a year now. Yes over a YEAR. It was googles fault for not finishing honeycomb in a timely manner.
Most Mfrs have STOPPED production of tegra 2 units, xoom production for example has ended over a month ago.
Tegra 3 is here, its READY, and Mfr are producing stock of tegra 3 tablets right NOW.
Tegra 3 tablets will be here to purchase in September. Unless you have money to burn it would be very foolish to buy tegra 2 unit now.
Tegra 3 tablets will be here to purchase in September. Unless you have money to burn it would be very foolish to buy tegra 2 unit now.
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I just wish we had solid proof/confirmation that the Kal-El Tabs will be available to consumers as early as that, there's just so much speculation.
I'm very close to ordering a 32 Gig Tab 10.1 after waiting ... and waiting .... for it to be released over here. I'm now fed up with waiting but I'd be very pissed if I were to shell out almost £500 only to find that the Quad core version was to be launched a few weeks later.
Its like buying a new car and loosing thousands just by driving it off the lot.
You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!
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Its like buying a new car and loosing thousands just by driving it off the lot.
You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!
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Again you are simply wrong. You're not going to have to wait long because tegra 3 tablets are being released in September. They are being Mfred right now and its a MASSIVE upgrade from tegra 2 which is over a year old now.
You cant win this debate with "You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!" because it is simply not true in this case.
I dont understand how others dont understand this....
As far as I know the only quad-core mobile device that will be available to consumers this fall/winter is the PS Vita. If quad-core tablets are arriving this fall you'd think we would have seen announcements, leaks or previews by now yeah?
Either way, I purchased my tab fully aware that quad-core devices would be likely be arriving within 6 to 8 months. I don't regret the purchase as I've been happy with the performance of the tab and I make use of it every day. As of right now I expect to keep the device until software is released that the tab isn't powerful enough to run.
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As far as I know the only quad-core mobile device that will be available to consumers this fall/winter is the PS Vita. If quad-core tablets are arriving this fall you'd think we would have seen announcements, leaks or previews by now yeah?
Either way, I purchased my tab fully aware that quad-core devices would be likely be arriving within 6 to 8 months. I don't regret the purchase as I've been happy with the performance of the tab and I make use of it every day. As of right now I expect to keep the device until software is released that the tab isn't powerful enough to run.
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At this point Mfrs are keeping a VERY hush hush attitude about the new Tegra 3 unit they are producing right now. Why? Because they dont want tegra 2 sales to suffer. They know tegra 2 is OLD despite what consumers think and releasing information about such a massive upgrade to Tegra 3 would only hinder old tegra 2 unit sales.
I can tell you for sure Tegra 3 units from ALL mfrs are being kept HIGHLY secretive until launch date. The only way we will get any info about them is when they hit the FCC. After they hit the FCC they are usually out on the floor for sale the following week.
You have to understand that my knowledge flows far beyond computers, and tablets all the way to economics which is why its easy for me to understand what is going on.
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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So you agree with me?
Also, where are all the Tegra 3 devices that are out now?
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So you agree with me?
Also, where all the Tegra 3 devices that are out now?
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Yes I do agree, but it is not relevant in this case since tegra 3 is so ridiculously close that it would be foolish to buy tegra 2 now unless you have money to literally throw out the window.
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Yes I do agree, but it is not relevant in this case since tegra 3 is so ridiculously close that it would be foolish to buy tegra 2 now unless you have money to literally throw out the window.
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Any further insight on the Tegra 3 devices you stated are out now? Or was that just BS as well?
It's amazing, if you look around these forums long enough you start to realize that 5thElement's only role is to troll the hell out of everyone. Every other thread he contradicts himself, sometimes saying the exact opposite of what he's posted before.
It's really sad that people who might be new to XDA or a new Tab owner will be misled by this character, probably because this person is extremely bored and screwing around with others is their hobby.
No wonder people have sworn off XDA.
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It's amazing, if you look around these forums long enough you start to realize that 5thElement's only role is to troll the hell out of everyone. Every other thread he contradicts himself, sometimes saying the exact opposite of what he's posted before.
It's really sad that people who might be new to XDA or a new Tab owner will be misled by this character, probably because this person is extremely bored and screwing around with others is their hobby.
No wonder people have sworn off XDA.
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Haha i havent been on these forums long, but its common knowledge that 5thElement hasno idea what hes talking about. Its funny really. I just sit back and laugh
Btw posting this from my outdated tab 10.1 lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp6MZupUq78&feature=feedu
is include led flash ICS and more
Nice! I wonder if its time to start looking for a buyer for my TF..
I am a bit disappointed that Google didn't bring an ICS tablet beside the new Nexus..
Dangit. My wife just told me I can get the TF2 if I'll sell my TF now, while it's likely to get the best price. Which I could do, but how long could I live without a tablet? A month? Would I survive?
I'm just not sure. Damn you, Asus!
They were only allowed to release the video after Ics was launched by Sammy last night.
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Dangit. My wife just told me I can get the TF2 if I'll sell my TF now, while it's likely to get the best price. Which I could do, but how long could I live without a tablet? A month? Would I survive?
I'm just not sure. Damn you, Asus!
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we're all on the same boat. a month without the TF is torture but if it's means getting the TF2 (although it's more expensive) next month, i'll do it.
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Dangit. My wife just told me I can get the TF2 if I'll sell my TF now, while it's likely to get the best price. Which I could do, but how long could I live without a tablet? A month? Would I survive?
I'm just not sure. Damn you, Asus!
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The same here man! Well with this difference I have Ipad2 -
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The same here man! Well with this difference I have Ipad2 -
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Traitor! get out of here
With my electronic fetish I am thinking but
Really it will have to blow me away in what it does compared to my current transformer and keyboard, and if my unit can be updated to ICS they will have to sell me on some real life advantages not benchmark, mine doesn't lag or anything my battery life is superb.
Ah, so it will be a new device, not just updated hardware. If they fix the speaker and make it lighter and thinner, I am so going to get it.
I can always dump my old transformer on my wife.
Seriously, if we can get an ICS update I would probably stick with my TF1 until the TF2 prices dropped in 6 months to a year. I figured out that if I shoot at 1080p24 on my T2i, my TF1 will play the 1080p video. The only other hardware restriction I had was movies. Dice Player handles those nicely and it's only $5 vs $500.
I don't know about you, but dropping $500 on a tablet every year is a little hard to stomach.
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I don't know about you, but dropping $500 on a tablet every year is a little hard to stomach.
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And on your relationship
TBH, if the current TF101 gets an ICS update I will be more than happy. If the apps and some games will run on it, then I'll definitely skip this "update" - I like the metal finishing, but just because of more proccessing power (when not really needed) I won't buy it.
you think the dock keyboard will light up?
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Really it will have to blow me away in what it does compared to my current transformer and keyboard, and if my unit can be updated to ICS they will have to sell me on some real life advantages not benchmark, mine doesn't lag or anything my battery life is superb.
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yea, but without a latest and greatest gadgets...people will think you have a tiny member
as long as ICS is avail, ill stick with mines and wait for win8 tablets
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as long as ICS is avail, ill stick with mines and wait for win8 tablets
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Wow good luck with your desition
I'll wait until I would be sure that tf2 can be rooted. And considering the time it takes to get the latest B series rooted, my guess is 6 months to 1 year. Hope I'm wrong.
I like the brushed look on the outside case, very cool though I'm not sure if that's enough for me to ditch my Transformer 1.
Another caveat is the question of whether the Tegra 3 is the best upcoming chipset. Qualcomm and TI are doing some interesting things, and so is the Tegra 3 the one to buy or should one wait for the next gen from the other manufacturers? Who knows, maybe it's the TF3 that will be worth buying, and the TF1 can hold us off in the meantime.
Personally, I'm tempted to sell my TF1 and get a TF2, but my more practical side says to wait until CES to see what other manufacturers announce.
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Another caveat is the question of whether the Tegra 3 is the best upcoming chipset. Qualcomm and TI are doing some interesting things, and so is the Tegra 3 the one to buy or should one wait for the next gen from the other manufacturers. Who knows, maybe it's the TF3 that will be worth buying, and the TF1 can hold us off in the meantime.
Personally, I'm tempted to sell my TF1 and get a TF2, but my more practical side says to wait until CES to see what other manufacturers announce.
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While I really love my Transformer, I couldn't agree more. The one thing that just pisses me off the most about my Transformer is the lack of media that I can actually watch on it. Knowing that the newer OMAP4 and Qualcomm chips are much better, and on top of that they are probably almost as good as the Tegra 3, I really feel it's worthwhile to wait. The only thing I feel the Tegra 3 has going for it is the GPU side of things. Right now, TI seems complacent to always include a simple GPU that is inferior to whatever Apple currently has. Why don't we have a GPU the same as Apple? I don't know, but it's disheartening from the gaming side of things. I want more. The only OMAP4 chip that comes close is the 4460...and that won't be out until next year....
REALLY??!!! SERIOUSLY????!!! How many tablets does Sammy think they need to through out at the public to get that they aren't going to sell until they lower prices, not specs! End rant.
Lower prices? The 10.1 is $50 cheaper than the iPad and the 8.9 is $100 cheaper...
I think they are currently priced just about right...
Wish they lowered the prices on the older tabs significantly.
Means we can root em and flash our own builds for a reasonable price
they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
i agree, i think this is the only problem with android, we are being flooded with devices at them moment, hopefully it will slow down and we can see some more quality devices come out... pricing for samsungs tabs though are great i think, leave the lower market to other companies, I want a powerful device in my hands.
Yeah but they just need to take a break for a moment
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they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
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Hold up though... The Galaxy Tab 2 is 7.7", dual core, 1ghz ram etc etc... right?
I bought mine a few weeks ago and did so because I read the new Galaxy Tab would be 7.7". I definitely wanted the 10" form factor. I love my Tab but don't want to be a fool (not that kind anyway)! Now I'm second guessing purchase
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they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
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This is exactly what I mean! Sammy has now released like 5 new tablets with same basic hardware of their old tablets.. Tegra 3 is ready and being used by Asus already! I like Samsung's hardware the best, but I'm just sick of seeing *New tablets with underwhelming, old hardware in them.. I know that price is def a factor, but manufacturing 20 different tablets is expensive.. if they had 3 form factors/models it would save money for them, and then us!
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Tegra 3 is ready and being used by Asus already!
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Nvidia's on record saying they've lost Samsung as a customer and now consider them a competitor. So, don't hold your breath for Teg3. Teg3 is actually two old-gen A9 chips glommed together. Samsung's Exynos 5250 is in sampling making it the first A15 chip on the market when it’s supposed to release in Q2. Raw HP isn't the real issue with mobile devices. It's GPU bandwidth. A15 chips will be more powerful than Teg3 and have 5x the graphics b/w. I think a lot of manufacturers are intentionally skipping Teg3 and moving directly to A15 chips (from Samsung, TI, and Qualcomm) which are easier to fabricate and potentially less expensive. The Prime’s having a ton of issues where different devices behave differently when updates are rolled out. It’s too early to say its Teg3 but it’s a potential candidate for the problems.
Meh, I like choice. I don't see the point of complaining about it; unless you're an early adopter, you'll always be a step behind. Here' my suggestion for you: stop worrying about having the newest snazziest gear and enjoy what you do have. It's not a race.
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Meh, I like choice. I don't see the point of complaining about it; unless you're an early adopter, you'll always be a step behind. Here' my suggestion for you: stop worrying about having the newest snazziest gear and enjoy what you do have. It's not a race.
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It's not abt race its just we buy a thing today and tomorrow they come up with the improvised one unfair u know
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It's not abt race its just we buy a thing today and tomorrow they come up with the improvised one unfair u know
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"Unfair" would suggest they owe you some duty of not producing new models. Have you really thought this through? "We buy a thing today, and tomorrow they come up with the improv[ed] one." If this is unfair, how long do they have to wait? Do you realize that they released this tablet in May of 2011, 9 months ago, right? You also realize that the successor does not yet exist, right? This is the same complaint I've heard about technology for the last 20 years. I still don't get it.
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Nvidia's on record saying they've lost Samsung as a customer and now consider them a competitor. So, don't hold your breath for Teg3. Teg3 is actually two old-gen A9 chips glommed together. Samsung's Exynos 5250 is in sampling making it the first A15 chip on the market when it’s supposed to release in Q2. Raw HP isn't the real issue with mobile devices. It's GPU bandwidth. A15 chips will be more powerful than Teg3 and have 5x the graphics b/w. I think a lot of manufacturers are intentionally skipping Teg3 and moving directly to A15 chips (from Samsung, TI, and Qualcomm) which are easier to fabricate and potentially less expensive. The Prime’s having a ton of issues where different devices behave differently when updates are rolled out. It’s too early to say its Teg3 but it’s a potential candidate for the problems.
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BUT there is ALWAYS something better around the corner. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Nuff said. I agree Samsungs SOC will be better, but will it be too late? Look at Windows Phone 7, its great, but 3-4 years too late..
My main point..
Is Samsung going to seriously produce 20 different models of tablets? I understand it being nice to have 'choices', but Samsung has enough work keeping past models firmware relevant, let alone producing 20 new version/sizes every few months, there is no way they can properly support that many.. I wouldn't think twice is they made actually changes to new models like vastly improved batteries, or more memory etc.
I've been saying for many years that if you buy an electronic device, it will be obsolete BEFORE you make it out of the front door of the store. You might make it back home if you buy the most expensive model of whatever. It's just the way of high tech devices these days. We consumers have only helped them by replacing perfectly functional devices just for the lasted and greatest one. Even if the new one has twice the speed or memory, do you need it?
Probably not. Yet we continue to demand, and purchase, which is just encouragement for them to continue. I honestly think its only gonna get worse. It's really our fault as consumers always wanting more and better; NOW.
When I was growing up electronics were durable goods. You bought a TV and you kept it until it quit working. Now we buy a new one because of widget xyz is better on the new model. I'm guilty of this myself also, just not as much as I used to be. Even though I have more money to spend these days.
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"Unfair" would suggest they owe you some duty of not producing new models. Have you really thought this through? "We buy a thing today, and tomorrow they come up with the improv[ed] one." If this is unfair, how long do they have to wait? Do you realize that they released this tablet in May of 2011, 9 months ago, right? You also realize that the successor does not yet exist, right? This is the same complaint I've heard about technology for the last 20 years. I still don't get it.
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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So you can encourage the manufacturers to do more of what you're b!tching about more? :what:
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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That's ridiculous. If you knew me you'd know what a silly thing to say that is. But beyond that, my statement is exactly the opposite: I'm saying "be happy with what you have, not unhappy about what you don't have." See if you can figure out the difference between gadget lust and gadget envy.
Didn't mean any offense if it was taken that way. Just good natured hard time I was intending.
Sometimes hard to relay sarcasm in a post.
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OP puts Galaxy Tab 2 in the title, then complains about how many tablets are coming out from Samsung? I mean, if you put Galaxy Note 10.1 in the title, that would make some sense, but the Galaxy Tab 2 is apparently the direct successor of the original Galaxy Tab that came out in 2010 and it's not even out yet. Who knows when it comes out.