[Q] difference betwwen NAND and SD card android development. - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

hey...
iam using t-mobile HD2 :
ROM version-2.13.531.1
radio-2.10.50.26
protocol ver-15.39.50.07U
and i want to install android on my phone. i have been reading quite a few threads everyday but the more i read i guess the more confuse i get.
some say that u should use HSPL.. some are against it... some say that we should flash android from SD card , some are again against it..
WHAT I NEED:-
1)i want to put android in my phone. preferably 2.2 froyo as i think that 2.3 mite be heavy for HD2.
2) i dont want dual OS. that is i just want android on my phone and not android and windows 2gethr.
please guide me. which steps should i follow...??

Follow this guide step by step http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11097380, you'll have android running on ur hd2 in no time.

azer0 said:
Follow this guide step by step http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11097380, you'll have android running on ur hd2 in no time.
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hey...
thanks for the link. i had a querry...
what is the difference between running android through SD card or through NAND.??
and which one is better.>??

can anyone tell me the difference between NAND and SD..??
iam currently running android from SD...

mundae said:
can anyone tell me the difference between NAND and SD..??
iam currently running android from SD...
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NAND means is short for NAND. memory/ NAND chip. This is what is called the flash memory of the HD2. It is also where the Windows Mobile OS is. So if you flash a NAND Android ROM you will wipe Windows Mobile, also your HD2 will boot into Android when you turn your HD2 on. You have to have MAGLDR or cLK to do this though.

Installing to NAND is faster and more stable, since the SD card might not have the read/write speeds to supply the OS. What is more, running Android from SD is booting up WinMO first and Android second, which is obviously slower.
I have a DesireHD ROM on my HD2, I have tried gingerbread builds too but without Sense it sucks imo. Hardware is more than enough, SetCPU just rocks (overclocking).
There is a nice and comprehensive guide on how to install the stuff, first HardSPL, then flash a new radio, then install MAGLDR, then flash an Android build (preferably rooted, I have had problems with rooting since z4root does not work).

T-Macgnolia said:
NAND means is short for NAND. memory/ NAND chip. This is what is called the flash memory of the HD2. It is also where the Windows Mobile OS is. So if you flash a NAND Android ROM you will wipe Windows Mobile, also your HD2 will boot into Android when you turn your HD2 on. You have to have MAGLDR or cLK to do this though.
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hey..
thanks.. iam currently using 2.3 from SD..
so if i follow the NAND method it will wash out windows completly...??
that is i'l only have one OS in my phone and that would be android.. right.??
are NAND methods successful..??
if yes then can u please link me to the BEST guide available to follow the NAND method because android from SD is unstable.. crashes a lott...
thanks again for the info.

mundae said:
hey..
thanks.. iam currently using 2.3 from SD..
so if i follow the NAND method it will wash out windows completly...??
that is i'l only have one OS in my phone and that would be android.. right.??
are NAND methods successful..??
if yes then can u please link me to the BEST guide available to follow the NAND method because android from SD is unstable.. crashes a lott...
thanks again for the info.
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-Yes. It will wipe your Winmo completely
-Yes. If you flash NANDROID, then you will only have Android.
-Some NANDROID ROM works, some dont. It really depends on your handset conditions and the rom itself. You might experience that you cant flash certain Nandroid Rom while others can, vice versa. But dont worry, there are many roms you can try out and see it if it is suitable for your needs
-Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905841
BTW, I use SD ANdroid American Android (AOSP), and it works perfect to me
Good luck

silverwind said:
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BTW, I use SD ANdroid American Android (AOSP), and it works perfect to me
Good luck
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hey..
thanks for the link... actually iam also using SD American Android at the moment...
it is working fine but it does crash now and then.. i usually have to shift applications to phone to make them work properly.. or else it crashes a lott...
so 1 final question...
do you advice to put NANDROID...?? i mean if American Android is working fine then should i go for nandroid or not..??
will it increase the performance and will the freezes decrease..??

im glad i switched to nandroid. it is a lot faster, stable and no freezes.

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Getting Android on my HD2

Hey guys, I was wondering if anybody could link me to some guides on how to install Gingerbread 2.3 to my HD2?
Thanks.
Read the threads
U should be reading the posted threads to know everything from the start
but i can guide u with this, first of all u have android either booting from windows which is the sdcard build, or the NAND rom which boots directly with android
u have to choose which one to use 1st, every way has its own adv and disadv
after choosing, its better to stick with froyo builds, as they r mature enough and stable and having almost everything working with it.
gingerbread has a problem with GPS to work and some other glitches on our HD2
in my opinion stick with sdcard builds until the NAND is perfectly settled
choose the way 1st and i can send u a direct link to it
good luck
sevoflurane said:
U should be reading the posted threads to know everything from the start
but i can guide u with this, first of all u have android either booting from windows which is the sdcard build, or the NAND rom which boots directly with android
u have to choose which one to use 1st, every way has its own adv and disadv
after choosing, its better to stick with froyo builds, as they r mature enough and stable and having almost everything working with it.
gingerbread has a problem with GPS to work and some other glitches on our HD2
in my opinion stick with sdcard builds until the NAND is perfectly settled
choose the way 1st and i can send u a direct link to it
good luck
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GPS works fine with Gingerbread. And MAGLDR is perfectly fine.
Second that... and almost every app is compatible now...
Sent from my HTC HD2 using Cyanogen Mod Android
Here is the perfect guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380

Tutorial video to install WP7 on your HTC HD2

For those looking to get WP7 on the HTC HD2, I've assembled one of my tutorial videos for it
Enjoy, and let me know if you have any questions. Next up, activating live services
http://windowsphonehacker.com/tutor...ws_phone_7_on_your_htc_hd2_video-01-13-11.php
All hail WP7 on the HTC HD2! So glad I bought this instead of the TG01 or Nexus One
Nice bro. Good work. One thing people really need to know is that WP7 will format your SD card.. Everyone keep this in mind and dont lose your files!
will it work on the touch pro 2 gsm wvga
I see that's a EURO HD2, i thought the readme said only 1024 TMOUS versions work?
Btw one question, if you want to revert back to Android, is it the same process of getting a NAND rom and installing the .exe again?
1milenia said:
will it work on the touch pro 2 gsm wvga
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No. First off, the HTC HD2 is the only device capable of running WP7 (Capacitive touch, 1ghz QSD, etc). Second off, this ROM is designed for the HD2, so I'd assume it would brick your Touch Pro 2, even if you could manage to make it flash. Sorry.
How do i backup my nand rom? Or do you only have to backup you SD card?
Psygnosis84 said:
I see that's a EURO HD2, i thought the readme said only 1024 TMOUS versions work?
Btw one question, if you want to revert back to Android, is it the same process of getting a NAND rom and installing the .exe again?
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I assume so... the readme says you can flash back to Windows Mobile, so worst comes to worst, flash to Windows Mobile and then back to MAGLDR. But you should be able to just flash Android NAND.
And yes, it is a European HD2 (not sure what carrier). Everything is working fine, and if I recall, the T-Mobile US version will be forced to 512 if you flash this. Read that in the readme I believe, or maybe I'm confusing something. Either way, it works great on my European HD2.
stephandelaat said:
How do i backup my nand rom? Or do you only have to backup you SD card?
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This will replace *everything* on your device, including your SD card contents, so I'd back up your important files and take that SD card out before trying it.
Jaxbot said:
This will replace *everything* on your device, including your SD card contents, so I'd back up your important files and take that SD card out before trying it.
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Ok, but there's no way i can backup my android installation. So when i reinstall android i don't have to reconfigure android.
stephandelaat said:
Ok, but there's no way i can backup my android installation. So when i reinstall android i don't have to reconfigure android.
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I've never used Android NAND, but I would have to assume your Android configuration will be lost, unless there's an application that will back it up and store it somewhere for reuse.
Does it work on my HD2 T9193 Telstra? Since my device only has 512MB Rom, NOT a tmobile version has 1GB Rom.
waichai said:
Does it work on my HD2 T9193 Telstra? Since my device only has 512MB Rom, NOT a tmobile version has 1GB Rom.
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My European HD2 has 512mb rom afaik, and it's working fine. To quote the readme, also:
"LEO1024:
At current moment LEO1024 supported, but only 512 megabytes of NAND is used. "
So I assume the Telstra version will work too, if you're willing to give it a shot.
Good luck!
Jaxbot said:
My European HD2 has 512mb rom afaik, and it's working fine. To quote the readme, also:
"LEO1024:
At current moment LEO1024 supported, but only 512 megabytes of NAND is used. "
So I assume the Telstra version will work too, if you're willing to give it a shot.
Good luck!
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Thanks for reply, will give it a try tonight.
waichai said:
Does it work on my HD2 T9193 Telstra? Since my device only has 512MB Rom, NOT a tmobile version has 1GB Rom.
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just install WP7 on my device and it's working good
Was going to go buy a spare SD, does anyone know if a 2 gig is fine to use?
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HDee2 said:
Was going to go buy a spare SD, does anyone know if a 2 gig is fine to use?
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I want to say "yes", you should be able to slip it in the microSD slot and it should automatically format. Of course, it'll be WP7-only forever, so be careful!
my phone just wont get past the 0% stage when updating the ROM.
nickkyboy36 said:
my phone just wont get past the 0% stage when updating the ROM.
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Strange... do you have radio 2.08 or higher, and HSPL3 installed?
You can backup your nan android search this site It makes a backup file on you sd card you can copy to your computer, you have to boot into that first screen by holding down on power button while phone boots
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Strange... do you have radio 2.08 or higher, and HSPL3 installed?
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carl1961 said:
You can backup your nan android search this site It makes a backup file on you sd card you can copy to your computer, you have to boot into that first screen by holding down on power button while phone boots
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nickkyboy36 said:
my phone just wont get past the 0% stage when updating the ROM.
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thats what happens when you do not select 2.08 when you run hspl3

which android for my htc hd2?

i recently purchased HTC HD2 phone that comes with windows mobile 6.5.
I don't have a problem with it but some friends praised Android. I tried froyo on my sd card but it didn't work very well. it crashed and didn't load properly. Then someone told me that i've to remove windows mobile and install android fresh.
Can anyone suggest if android runs well on htc hd2? will i be able to use camera, phone, wifi, data, gps with android? But primarily it should work like any phone out there, after all its a phone.
Go to the HD2 Android Dev forum. There should be AmeriCanDroid.
That's a good stable build that I'm using.
SD base.
As far as I remember, AmeriCanDroid is for US T-Mobile users. If you use european version then I would suggest trying ROMs by Rafdroid (it's of course only my suggestion, but his ROMs are most stable for me.)
go to android NAND development and search for the stickies. there is a link which show a lot of android builds.
you can choose by yourself what kind of android you prefer (sense builds, stock froyo, gingerbread etc.) just give it a try
I´m personally on typhoons cm7 which runs really great.
but do i have to remove my existing windows mobile on my htc hd2?
will i be able to sync all my contacts, text messages with android?
Android works with google, so you can put the contacts in your gmail and it will sync with android on the telephone. Text messages wont work as far as I know
Just like the other people say, take a look in the android nand section and read the sticky's, they tell you everything you need to know.
I'm on the HyperDroid and works great
read thist thread, it will help you to decide.
ps: mods, this thread should be stick. its very helpfull to noods and more advanced users
adecostres said:
As far as I remember, AmeriCanDroid is for US T-Mobile users.
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Actually, they post US and ex-US builds each time a new build is released. Many ex-US users post there, but far too many US and ex-US ask the same tired questions over and over. Read the FAQ, and enjoy a good build.
id go for this thread HERE, which should help you get started.
naturesbless said:
Go to the HD2 Android Dev forum. There should be AmeriCanDroid.
That's a good stable build that I'm using.
SD base.
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Me too. It is stable and has low battery usage.
Development is in progress, the remaining issues should be fixed soon.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I followed the steps provided at thread provided by gizmolisa2006.
After step 3 was done, which was to install MAGLDR 1.13 and it flashed (if thats the correct word) ROM to 2.00.000.0 by running ROMUpdateUtility.exe.
after that i pressed the power key and it doesn't go into bootloader or the magldr menu doesn't come up. i did what it said in that video as well. but no luck.
now my hd2 is stuck on white background with pink "Stick Together" logo.
Can anyone please help?
Did you flash HSPL first?
cap
my bad, i was suppossed to install 2.08.hspl instead of 3.03.
its working fine now.
I installed gingerbread i guess.
Hortz said:
Android works with google, so you can put the contacts in your gmail and it will sync with android on the telephone. Text messages wont work as far as I know
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search "migrate" on google... it saves everything from winmo to droid
aryob said:
my bad, i was suppossed to install 2.08.hspl instead of 3.03.
its working fine now.
I installed gingerbread i guess.
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what if hspl is 3.03? by downgrading it to 2.08, will it be reversable?
Nexus HD2 - Gingerbread V2.4 NAND
try it i like it a lot
help... i don't really know what type HTC HD2 i m using.. i m confused by so many types in the market, leoxxxx...t-mobile, htc sense?
i suggest hyperdroidgbx cm7 v1.0.3 runs great super fast and stable as all hell for me...only froze on me once so far and it was while i was streaming videos using flash...
great build
The most important thing is to get proficient at flashing your hd2 so that you can try out a few builds. Once you get hspl and magloader on your phone, I recommend coredroid simply because the instructions for getting clockwork recovery on your phone and installing coredroid are laid out fairly clear in a file with the download. From there you can try flashing other builds if coredroid doesn't suit your needs. I'm currently using hyperdroid and it's great for me.

help

recently i got a hd2 from tmobile windows 6.5 and SPL 2.10 with 1024 ROM i put an android sd on my root sd card and i wasn't able to boot it... what should i do? im newbie and don't wanna brick my phone... i wanna boot android 2.3.3 from my SD, i have tried ubuntu on it and it works perfect.
jams90 said:
recently i got a hd2 from tmobile windows 6.5 and SPL 2.10 with 1024 ROM i put an android sd on my root sd card and i wasn't able to boot it... what should i do? im newbie and don't wanna brick my phone... i wanna boot android 2.3.3 from my SD, i have tried ubuntu on it and it works perfect.
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Have you tried the guides on this website?
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i don't know if flash it i found some roms but for other radio or not the 1024 rom version...
im gonna search again so... i hope i don't brick my phone
If you are just wanting to boot Android from SD card, unless you seriously screw up by doing something should not be doing, you are not going to brick your HD2. Click on my guide in my sig to learn some about your HD2 and also make sure to go to the bottom of my guide which is the bottom of post #3 and read the warning about the radio versions you can not flash to the HD2 or you will brick it. PM me if you need to, but please read the stickie threads and the links to guides in the stickie roll up threads also. Ckeck out the "New to XDA?" link in my sig to learn how to get the most out of XDA. Happy hunting!
i tried AmeriCanAndroid_042511.7z and didn't work and now i tried [SD-MGRLD] BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA GINGER Sense.s V8 (20.Apr).rar and works! i would love to flash it on NAND but i use ubuntu too that's why im using it on SD it boots fast! thanks for your help i'll read your guides to know more about my phone and the guide "new to xda" thank you if i need more help ill tell you, thank you all..
jams90 said:
i tried AmeriCanAndroid_042511.7z and didn't work and now i tried [SD-MGRLD] BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA GINGER Sense.s V8 (20.Apr).rar and works! i would love to flash it on NAND but i use ubuntu too that's why im using it on SD it boots fast! thanks for your help i'll read your guides to know more about my phone and the guide "new to xda" thank you if i need more help ill tell you, thank you all..
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Just so you know it is not unusual for a SD card build to not boot all the way up on the first time around. But bit usually if you do a reset and try booting it again it boots. Look into getting yourself a dual boot app too, just go to HD2 Windows Mobile themes and apps and do a search for Dual Boot apps or something like that. Turning HTC Sense hels with running Android from SD and also booting Android with in the first 10 to 15 secounds after Windows Mobile boots up helps out to, this is to keep Windows Mobile from establishing a data connection.
If you can't boot download a daf and run daf through USB flasher in magldr
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Use radio. 2.14 or 2.15 depending on your region, some roms, will install but always crash on boot if u haven't partition
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Get a rom and pm me 4 help I had just bout all of em
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pnonu23 said:
Get a rom and pm me 4 help I had just bout all of em
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Not being a smart a** but you do realize the OP is talking about running Android from SD card and not NAND right?
At the OP you said you run Unbuntu so you migbt want to check this article out that was in the Portal and follow the dev that is working on it. He is working on a app to " Hot Boot Into Debian From Android in the HD2" I think you might be interested in this, it is a short video there as well.
hi
THANKS
i'll read that
im in mexico, which radio should i use? =S
thanks
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Not being a smart a** but you do realize the OP is talking about running Android from SD card and not NAND right?
At the OP you said you run Unbuntu so you migbt want to check this article out that was in the Portal and follow the dev that is working on it. He is working on a app to " Hot Boot Into Debian From Android in the HD2" I think you might be interested in this, it is a short video there as well.
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thanks! i'm interested on that because im able to run android 2.3.3 from SD but when i use it runs smooth and fast but if i power off the screen and stay there for some time it freezes and need to remove the battery.. so would be nice if i can launch ubuntu from android so i would install in nand and launch ubuntu from it.
thanks i've just downloaded the apk from that tool and i'll try it on my HD2.
hi, i know i've asked so many things here, but i still confused,
i read about HD2 leos on here and search here for ROMS for my HD2 but they don't say anything clear.
i was thinking on upgrade it with the official tmobile rom 3.14 i enter my imei and it says it's compatible but, my cellphone it's unlocked, do u know if i upgrade it with the official tmobile update it will get locked again?
i want to upgrade with the official because i don't know if flash HSPL3 on my TMOUS 1024 HD2:
OS Version: 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
Manila Version: 2.5.20121412.2
ROM Version: 2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE
Radio Version: 2.10.50.26
and i notice that my battery doesn't last that much and i have wifi turned off... and want a better rom, if not a custom rom maybe the official upgrade but i want to know what about if my cellphone locks again to T-Mobile and i can't use it with my carrier.

[Q] Restore to factory WM stock after Andriod installed

Too many things are not working. And the phone is super slow.
How do I restore a HD2 with android installed back to Windows Mobile stock version? Can you please point me to Wiki, I am looking but I cannot find it.
Thanks,
Download your stock ROM and flash it via SD card - this way, everything will be back to factory status.
Just check the stickies in the WinMo thread, you´ll quickly find what you need.
If this is done will HTC know it has been using Android NAND? So could a phone be sent for repair if this is done?
jim.od2001 said:
If this is done will HTC know it has been using Android NAND? So could a phone be sent for repair if this is done?
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Yes... you can send it back to HTC is you flash it as above with WM from sd card.
Good luck
baboog said:
Too many things are not working. And the phone is super slow.
How do I restore a HD2 with android installed back to Windows Mobile stock version? Can you please point me to Wiki, I am looking but I cannot find it.
Thanks,
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Well first of all which Android rom did you use?
Did you try others?
Did you read the roms thread for tweaks/fixes?
Some roms can make your device run faster and better then Windows Mobile, You have obviously not tried variosu roms and just gave up after 5 minutes.
You should take your time and try some of the lighter Android roms like NexusHD2 or maybe a CM7 based rom. What you ahve probably tried is a full on DHD sense rom which (at first) will be laggy until OS has had time to settle down and also a few reboots.
I have been using Android since I had my HD1 and more or less since day1 on my HD2, Ive used many roms (thats teh fun part) and have not had a problem overall of slow or too many things not working, It all depends on the rom you use and if you tweak/fix or not.
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