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I know there are already a lot of discussions on battery drain and believe me, I have read every single one of them. However, I think mine is slightly different:
When fully charged and using WIFI for 10 minutes, 10% of juice will be used. Listening to MP3 for 1 hour will also use another 10%. Overall, battery life is really bad but the key is it only happened suddenly. It have been very good up till now.
I have tested this on another battery and have exactly the same results so it is not battery related. I have also hard reset the phone and tested the battery with nothing installed and it still drains. A full charge only lasts me like 4 hour of very light use.
I installed Battlog and the power consumption is around 90 which I think is pretty low, but at times, even with this low consumption, I can see the battery usage literally falling before my eyes, like 5 % in 5 minutes.
I have also tried the HTC battery test, i.e. fully charged the battery, turned on plane mode and full brightness. After one hour, it only used 8% which I thought is normal. However, if I start using the phone by just simply clicking around, it will start dropping.
I believe the phone is fine on standby but once it starts doing things, even simple operations like moving around folders, it starts consuming a lot of power.
This all happens after an overnight charging episode when I noticed that the light stays amber in the morning and the percentage stays at 80%. I soft reset the phone and it immediately show 100%. This has never happen again but my battery usage is never normal since.
All in all, I think it is somehow hardware related, like the battery gauge is bad or the charging is never complete but it still shows green. It is still under warranty but I think will be very difficult to convince the service centre that there is something genuinely wrong with the phone.
P.S. Should also mentioned that I am using the stock telstra rom and have also cycled through the batteries twice before testing.
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
Fenixz said:
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
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I had actually "reset" the battery but only drain it to 5% before recharging as I have read that it is not safe to drain to 0%. I'll try to completely drain it tonight and recharge. Will report back.
btw, I noticed that when the battery is charged to 100%, the led stays amber for about 15-20 minutes before turning green. Is this normal or should it turn green immediately after reaching 100%?
Tried completely draining the battery and charge overnight but have no effect. The problem persists. So this is definitely not a battery problem.
I guess the last thing I can try is charging the battery with a standalone charger or another HD to see if there is problem with the charging mechanism in my phone.
The latest Telstra rom seems a bit better on battery
led amber
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
aidinali said:
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
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aidinali, can you please explain what you mean? I thought the led will go off if you unplugged the charger. My problem is that after reaching 100% as indicated on the phone, the led stays amber for another 15 minutes before turning green.
Well , I'll correct & explain more....
1-when you reach %100 ,the led will turn to green immediately (if you’r phone is plugged in).
2-if you unplug ,the led will turn off (as you said ).
The problem is that since the battery meter in HD has not been defined by percentage , it doesn't match with
Apps like battery level or battlog .so when you see %100 on them , it' s not "real % 100 ".
I believe there is something wrong with the phone as the percentage usage and charging status do not match. However, since the basic HTC software does not have any battery usage in percentage, it’s hard to convince the service centre that something is wrong.
Any software that shows the battery as a percentage all have the same reading, so I assume they all rely on the mainboard for that information. There is obviously something wrong with either the charging process of the phone or draining more battery than it needs during usage.
I have 100% exactly the same problem as in the original post.
Does anyone else?
I have also tried 2 batteries and had exactly the same results with both, so I also know it is not the battery. The only app I have installed other than Dutty's 6.5 rom is Tomtom which does not need to be run for any of these issues to occur.
Any chance on warranty? I think it's software...
Try a different ROM. I've been having the same problem. I just flashed a new ROM about an hour ago (partly because Dutty's 6.5 kept freezing). I'm hoping both problems will be solved now.
i've found the latest radio rom to make a big different to battery life. 1.14.25.24_radio
the previous radio rom (1.13?) did suck the juice and made battery last 2 days less than 1.14
Try charging with a different charger. Ie. connect a USB cable on your PC and charge it from there.
I've had very similar problems with the stock charger a month after i got my TouchHD, and ended up testing with my old P4350 charger and all problems went away.
I've had similar drains even witch WiFi off, no emails, exchange or 3G access...
Now i'm getting a whole day's usage and i'm left with 30-40% battery, with 2 hours average talk time
I've tried with a number of chargers.....battery still sucks.
I've just switched from Dutty's to Energy ROM, radio is 1.14
If anything...energy drains more quickly than Dutty's
It says it drawing 350mA
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
samlives said:
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
I had same problem when i flashed miri's rom, hd got warm and didn't last, it cooled down in standby, the answer to my problem was that the wifi was not set to save battery mode, once i set it to save power everything was ok
Used 8% in 24 hours
Fallen Spartan said:
Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
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Have been trying that for a month now....something seems to have suddenly worked It only used 8% of the battery in 24 hours! I live in the rainforest with no service so cellular was turned off...wifi on, but I only accessed it about 6 times......still,nothing has changed. The same conditions would leave me with a dead battery in 7 hours previously.
Time will tell if it keeps up this well.
By the way....Thanks
So basically you're saying people should drain down the battery to 1% or so and not to 0% (device dies when battery is out) to get a better battery strength?
Seems to be the general consensus. I'm still not sure if that's what made the difference for me but previously,I would put my device to standbye when I went to sleep at 10:30pm and it would be dead by 6am
I was pondering possible reasons for the battery life problem that many of us are well aware of. Some peoples batterys will last a good day or two and then theres people like me who charge my phone in the morning and when i get home in the afternoon just to keep it alive and this is compared with people using the same rom. So i thought maybe there could be something to do with what the battery level is when the phone is rooted or a new rom flashed, and this process may reduce the battery cycle to a specific point. E.g. if i 1st root and load my new rom on my phone at 50%, when booted it could show 100% but its actually 50% than it should be. i have not tested this but im just putting it forward as an idea. if anyone does have the time to unroot, charge to 100% and then reroot their phone + custom rom and test the battery life could they please post their results here. No harm in trying ...
EDIT:It seems we have found a solution or alteast a way to greatly improve battery life by putting my random idea and the information from maxisma togethere.. here are the following steps:
1. When the battery is low e.g. 10% boot into recovery mode and wipe->battery data
2. Reboot and then drain the battery or let it die (turn on mobile network add the 'sync now' widget and keep syncing with the music on loud - works pretty fast)
3. Leaving the phone dead put it on charge and let it charge fully till the led indicates green (may take longer than normal)
4. UNPLUG!! the charger then boot the phone up and your battery life should be much better
TIP!! Remeber when changing and flashing new roms to unplug the phone from charge after you boot!
Hope this works for you all PM me for results (i went from 5-10% loss an hour to what is now about 1-2% max )
Nice idea but almost certain your wrong
Edit: turns out that you shouldn't boot your phone while charging after all
I've think it's more likely to do with how I charge my phone. If I charge the phone on my PC then the battery lasts me a day. On Sunday night I charged it with a mains charger, and a day and a half later I still have 40% left. That's with constant WiFi, Talk, calls and text messages.
Sometimes I'll do the same things mentioned above and the battery will be about 20% by the time I'm going to bed.
I could be very wrong, I'm no battery expert!
There shouldn't be any difference between PC charging and mains charging. The mains charger would utilise a transformer to give the same oomph as a PC gives...if not it'd fry the battery whilst charging.
Funnily enough, mains AC - DC transforms are a little choppy, although at such a low current it should be entirely negligible, but your PC's power supply should give a cleaner power output than the mains. Are you sure it isn't just a placebo, I still like to think charging my PSP via the mains rather than USB will do it quicker and last longer, since its dedicated
TheAshMan said:
I've think it's more likely to do with how I charge my phone. If I charge the phone on my PC then the battery lasts me a day. On Sunday night I charged it with a mains charger, and a day and a half later I still have 40% left. That's with constant WiFi, Talk, calls and text messages.
Sometimes I'll do the same things mentioned above and the battery will be about 20% by the time I'm going to bed.
I could be very wrong, I'm no battery expert!
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I've heard this theory before. I can't even begin to fathom how this could be possible. I hereby dismiss it as 'rubbish'.
Seriously though, I think it's far more likely to be related to the apps/widgets people are using after flashing the rom. The only thing that differs drastically from build to build is the different apps that people install.
Might be worth those with very crap battery lives sending me an hours worth of logcat. I can do an hours worth of logcat for myself (I never have battery issues), and compare the results.
He's partly right.
Android has a bug that when it's plugged into a charger while booting up, it'll report a higher battery status than it actually is.
This is preventing the phone from charging the battery completely.
So, a recommendation for you: Always unplug your phone from the charger before powering it up.
Attempt
Since my last post ive drained my battery out. Kept the phone off and charged it fully. It did take longer than normal which could be a good thing. Ive booted it up about 15 mins ago and il post later/tomorrow about how the battery performs now.
WOOO
I maybe jumping the gun a bit here but my phone says an up time of 1hour 27 mins. and normally its about an hour to about 5-10% of battery life and im sorry to say... im still on 100% WOO . I will still report how this lasts through to tomorrow, however i think theres enough evidence to suggest that the method stated earlier seems to fix what seemed to be a 'shortend battery cycle'. Anyone else with a short battery life i advise you to do the same asi have and please feedback to me with any results.. hope this has been helpful
EDIT: Its been two hours now and still 100% woooo
I got escited too bratfink when I had 100% battery for ages while it was in sleep, then I dl'd a few progs from market and whoosh my battery started disappearing faster than expected. Try downloading a few things and you'll see your battry disappearing quicktime.
minfree or ramzswap off could be causing the issue.
I remember before I put that tweak on my phone (when it first came out), my battery life was amazing.
After I put the values in for init.d as from the forum page below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666&page=6
the battery life started disappearing like mad! and this was on a modaco rom!
I think now that all the new 2.1 roms are including this minfree tweak it is causing this battery issue to be carried over. All attempts to reduce battery drain are not having as much effect as they could because of this.
I would like to try one of these new roms without the tweak but I do not have the knowhow to stop it. i.e. put the original init.d (or equivalent) for the the roms in place.
You might argue that the memory clearing has nothing to do with the battey drain, but what i saw was that it did on a modaco rom. I don't know whether it is the switching of ramzswap or the minfree settings ( i have a feeling it is both.
Can a chef cook one of their roms without the tweak and keep the original settings?
adb remount
adb shell rm /system/etc/init.d/02memkill
then reboot.
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adb remount
adb shell rm /system/etc/init.d/02memkill
then reboot.
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I'm on the BeHero v1.3.2,m will that command put my phone memory settings back to what they would normally be without the taskkiller?
If so can I just remove that file with OI file explorer as atm my laptop usb aint working (can't connect to phone properly, can only charge)
If you use Bluetooth, GPS*, or plug/unplug usb, CPU lock at 528Mhz and battery drain. This happend in all eris/roms.
I can see with Battery Graph while I sleep the battery is full, but no reason (only unlock to check time, kill alarms, read mail,...) the battery drains constantly. (no tweeter, no facebook, no GPS, no BT,..),
This kernel sucks. It's very buggy but is what is
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adb remount
adb shell rm /system/etc/init.d/02memkill
then reboot.
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It's OK managed to fix the usb on my laptop.
I am currently performing the third step...i really hope this works cuz I am getting really really horrible battery life right now...I get only about 8 hours with ocassional use...like listening to music, browsing, taking pictures, sms.
thanks for posting this thread.
Ill post the results tomorrow ( hopefully positive)
I noticed that using the overclock widget (even with the lower clock option when screen is off) also eats some battery, it definitely reduced my usage time on Android 1.5.
Could someone confirm?
I dont know what it is and why people have this bad battery drain.
I have the VillainRom 3.4 installed. Totally NO drain. I turned on Bluetooth and called several times. Battery drain is 8% in 12 hours .
I did not install any widgets. Pure standard custom ROM with newest radio.
Leeejohn said:
I dont know what it is and why people have this bad battery drain.
I have the VillainRom 3.4 installed. Totally NO drain. I turned on Bluetooth and called several times. Battery drain is 8% in 12 hours .
I did not install any widgets. Pure standard custom ROM with newest radio.
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exactly my view.
I'm using HeroDroid and i had really bad battery drain problem. I'm a sort of heavy user and with bluetooth & gps permantly on, my phone had drained out by lunch time. After doing some tests, i have found that my problem was related to GPS. If i boot my phone with GPS off and left it at off, i get the same battery level usage as my original cupcake 1.5 ROM. Perharps you guys can try it and post your results.
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I'm using HeroDroid and i had really bad battery drain problem. I'm a sort of heavy user and with bluetooth & gps permantly on, my phone had drained out by lunch time. After doing some tests, i have found that my problem was related to GPS. If i boot my phone with GPS off and left it at off, i get the same battery level usage as my original cupcake 1.5 ROM. Perharps you guys can try it and post your results.
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I found that to help as well. In the last 3h10m it only went down by 4%. That's definitely a lot better than what I was getting before and with the previous ROM. I am using the new Autokiller and Overclock widget if that helps any and booted up with my GPS off and followed the steps mentioned in the first post.
hmm if its the case that the phone is "capping" the maximum amount of charge the phone can have then it should take longer to charge also
my battery life i kinda okay, lasts 10-12 hours with intermediate use, using battey graph app it took me 70 mins to charge from 40% to 100%
ill let it drain out tonight and see how long it takes for a full charge
it would be good if we could compare results with people with and without battery problems
So somehow my phone did not like the Froyo update, would not boot after install or even a factory wipe.
So Verizon swapped it for a refurbished one, Ive had it for 5 days.
It had 2.2 installed when I got it. However the phone is almost useless for me now, It wont last a full day with nothing on, no GPS, no WiFi, no mobile data, no apps running, only turning it on once or twice during the day to check things and each time I do the battery draining like crazy!
I used to get 5 days out of my old phone, literally, because I am not a big user. I actually did play with the phone the day after I received it, to personalize it, and I drained 50% of the battery in an hour!
This is the same battery as in my phone, you dont get a new battery with the replacement.
I think its a hardware problem with the phone, but a guy at work says its just the 2.2 update, that it slams the battery.
Im going to take it back to Verizon tomorrow and see what they will do for me. If they wont fix this, I will simply revert back to my old flip phone since it lasts 5 days and cancel my data plan.
Keep on them to get that one replaced. Something in your hardware is definitely borked.
Even running WiFi hotspot, I don't see anywhere near that kind of drain (50%/hour). At the very worst, my idle drain was about 9%/hour.
This is not a good thing.
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So somehow my phone did not like the Froyo update, would not boot after install or even a factory wipe.
So Verizon swapped it for a refurbished one, Ive had it for 5 days.
It had 2.2 installed when I got it. However the phone is almost useless for me now, It wont last a full day with nothing on, no GPS, no WiFi, no mobile data, no apps running, only turning it on once or twice during the day to check things and each time I do the battery draining like crazy!
I used to get 5 days out of my old phone, literally, because I am not a big user. I actually did play with the phone the day after I received it, to personalize it, and I drained 50% of the battery in an hour!
This is the same battery as in my phone, you dont get a new battery with the replacement.
I think its a hardware problem with the phone, but a guy at work says its just the 2.2 update, that it slams the battery.
Im going to take it back to Verizon tomorrow and see what they will do for me. If they wont fix this, I will simply revert back to my old flip phone since it lasts 5 days and cancel my data plan.
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You need to make sure your old battery is calibrated to your new phone.
1 - install CWM recovery.
2 - tonight when you go to bed, power off your phone (power off is not screen off). Plug in your charger and charge overnight, USB charging prefered over wall power charging.
3 - in the morning when 100% charged battery is indicated, boot first into CWM recovery and wipe battery stats, after which boot back into Android then you can check for battery longevity again.
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You need to make sure your old battery is calibrated to your new phone.
1 - install CWM recovery.
2 - tonight when you go to bed, power off your phone (power off is not screen off). Plug in your charger and charge overnight, USB charging prefered over wall power charging.
3 - in the morning when 100% charged battery is indicated, boot first into CWM recovery and wipe battery stats, after which boot back into Android then you can check for battery longevity again.
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Wiping battery stats seems to be a placebo effect. For anyone with serious drain (several % per hour), wiping battery stats does nothing. Its a shame so many threads are corrupted with this misunderstanding when there are other very real sources of battery drain on froyo ROMS.
Scrappy1 said:
Wiping battery stats seems to be a placebo effect. For anyone with serious drain (several % per hour), wiping battery stats does nothing. Its a shame so many threads are corrupted with this misunderstanding when there are other very real sources of battery drain on froyo ROMS.
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It's perfectly normal for some people that wiping batterystats.bin did nothing useful, it's also perfectly normal for others to loose 1/3 of battery capacity from being uncalibrated.
It's definitely perfectly normal for some to loose 10% per hour from being uncalibrated.
This kind of variance often confused people.
After doing some experiments, I think its Froyo.
The reason is I turned off mobile data and the battery only drained 2% in 3 hours. Then I recorded some vids of my daughter and played them back with her and over those 3 hours it only dropped 6%. Seems pretty reasonable. I know in my original post I said I had mobile data off, but I realized I actually hadnt, sorry for the confusion.
So I turned on WiFi and GPS overnight and it only dropped 4% overnight.
So something in Froyo is sucking down huge amounts of battery when mobile data is turned on.
Or its still possible its hardware related, that the data radio runs non stop when its turned on, just seems unlikely.
A guy at work suggested turning off data roaming and turning back on mobile data and seeing what it did.
I've had my phone draining at about 10% per hour before, never did figure out what caused the problem. But I flashed back to stock (following the instructions to get ED01 by flashing back to DL09 and then running the update.zips), and that seems to have fixed it. Since 2.2, I've stayed largely stock - stock kernel and just debloated the stock rom. So far, that's what I've found to give the best battery life for me - 48 hours on a charge on average.
Few things to do/keep in mind:
Clearing the battery stats might not solve the problem, but it can't hurt. Charge the phone to 100%, then turn it off but leave it on the charger. Once the powered off battery indicator on the screen shows 100%, boot into CWM and wipe battery stats. Take it off the charger, turn it on and use it normally until the battery gets down to 5% or below. Charge it back up and you're good to go.
Also, give it a few days/battery cycles to come up to full capacity. I seem to notice shorter battery life immediately after a wipe, but after a few days, it's back to the normal 2 days or so between charges.
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After doing some experiments, I think its Froyo.
The reason is I turned off mobile data and the battery only drained 2% in 3 hours. Then I recorded some vids of my daughter and played them back with her and over those 3 hours it only dropped 6%. Seems pretty reasonable.
So I turned on WiFi and GPS overnight and it only dropped 4% overnight.
So something in Froyo is sucking down huge amounts of battery when mobile data is turned on.
Or its still possible its hardware related, that the data radio runs non stop when its turned on, just seems unlikely.
A guy at work suggested turning off data roaming and turning back on mobile data and seeing what it did.
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Definitely seem to be software problem instead of hardware, I suggest leaving everything on -Wifi, GPS, bluetooth, etc... and disable all data sync only one at a time to check for power usage.
KneeDragr said:
After doing some experiments, I think its Froyo.
The reason is I turned off mobile data and the battery only drained 2% in 3 hours. Then I recorded some vids of my daughter and played them back with her and over those 3 hours it only dropped 6%. Seems pretty reasonable.
So I turned on WiFi and GPS overnight and it only dropped 4% overnight.
So something in Froyo is sucking down huge amounts of battery when mobile data is turned on.
Or its still possible its hardware related, that the data radio runs non stop when its turned on, just seems unlikely.
A guy at work suggested turning off data roaming and turning back on mobile data and seeing what it did.
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Load up Spare parts and see what it says in Battery History. Under 'Other Usage', it should show that running is less than 100% (depending on your usage patterns, this could read anywhere from 10-90%, but it should never show 100%). Do this after having been unplugged for a while.
If running shows 100%, you have a wake lock, which is forcing the phone to be awake 100% of the time, rather than sleeping and using much less power.
You can use dumpsys power from an su terminal or adb to look and see if you have any locks.
If no locks show up, and running still shows 100% (or even if it doesn't) with mobile data on, then there's definitely something wrong with the data radio, and you should have it swapped.
Don't accept any other answer from either phone CSR or in-store rep. No matter how they try and excuse it, constant 10%/hour and up to 50%/hour drain is completely abnormal.
Ok this is what spare parts says
Running 5.2%
Screen On 3.1%
Phone On 0.5%
Wifi On 77.2%
Wifi running 55.6%
Try this, it will tell you what it causing the drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13534133&postcount=23
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Ok this is what spare parts says
Running 5.2%
Screen On 3.1%
Phone On 0.5%
Wifi On 77.2%
Wifi running 55.6%
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Is that with Mobile Data on? Are you still seeing 10%+/hour drain with those stats?
If you're seeing that kind of running time (which is good), and you're still getting huge drain (which is bad), then your phone is broken and needs to be replaced.
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So somehow my phone did not like the Froyo update, would not boot after install or even a factory wipe.
So Verizon swapped it for a refurbished one, Ive had it for 5 days.
It had 2.2 installed when I got it. However the phone is almost useless for me now, It wont last a full day with nothing on, no GPS, no WiFi, no mobile data, no apps running, only turning it on once or twice during the day to check things and each time I do the battery draining like crazy!
I used to get 5 days out of my old phone, literally, because I am not a big user. I actually did play with the phone the day after I received it, to personalize it, and I drained 50% of the battery in an hour!
This is the same battery as in my phone, you dont get a new battery with the replacement.
I think its a hardware problem with the phone, but a guy at work says its just the 2.2 update, that it slams the battery.
Im going to take it back to Verizon tomorrow and see what they will do for me. If they wont fix this, I will simply revert back to my old flip phone since it lasts 5 days and cancel my data plan.
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AlexDeGruven said:
Is that with Mobile Data on? Are you still seeing 10%+/hour drain with those stats?
If you're seeing that kind of running time (which is good), and you're still getting huge drain (which is bad), then your phone is broken and needs to be replaced.
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Thats total since all time.
So I had the phone all weekend with wifi and mobile data on, then one day with wifi off, then one day with wifi on, mobile data off.
But the battery was consumed the most with everything on, but still very high with wifi off and mobile data on.
Unfortunately a refurbished phone must be returned within 14 days if there is a problem with it. The remaining time on the 1 year warranty is voided.
just use stock rom DI01package3.tar.md5 and battery is very good for me
KneeDragr said:
Thats total since all time.
So I had the phone all weekend with wifi and mobile data on, then one day with wifi off, then one day with wifi on, mobile data off.
But the battery was consumed the most with everything on, but still very high with wifi off and mobile data on.
Unfortunately a refurbished phone must be returned within 14 days if there is a problem with it. The remaining time on the 1 year warranty is voided.
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According to the OP, you've had it for 5 days as of yesterday, which leaves you a full week+ to get it swapped again.
KneeDragr said:
So somehow my phone did not like the Froyo update, would not boot after install or even a factory wipe.
So Verizon swapped it for a refurbished one, Ive had it for 5 days.
It had 2.2 installed when I got it. However the phone is almost useless for me now, It wont last a full day with nothing on, no GPS, no WiFi, no mobile data, no apps running, only turning it on once or twice during the day to check things and each time I do the battery draining like crazy!
I used to get 5 days out of my old phone, literally, because I am not a big user. I actually did play with the phone the day after I received it, to personalize it, and I drained 50% of the battery in an hour!
This is the same battery as in my phone, you dont get a new battery with the replacement.
I think its a hardware problem with the phone, but a guy at work says its just the 2.2 update, that it slams the battery.
Im going to take it back to Verizon tomorrow and see what they will do for me. If they wont fix this, I will simply revert back to my old flip phone since it lasts 5 days and cancel my data plan.
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50% in an hour.. even if u use it the whole time is ridicuoulous.. prob a junk batt.. what are batt temps getting to??
There is a setting in the WiFi area to have the WIFI automatically turn off when the phones screen turns off, you may want to look into it
hongha_222 said:
just use stock rom DI01package3.tar.md5 and battery is very good for me
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who would actually want to do that.. dude froyo is a million times better.. i get 12-18 hours on heavy use, wifi, data, gps auto rotate all one.. running comm v1.3..
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amazing performance great bat life runz like a dream!!
I just want to report that I've been having similar experiences, and in my case it seems associated with signal strength.
If I'm at home all day (where signal is good, and I'm on wi-fi), my battery life is pretty good. Not as good as it was on 2.1, but acceptable.
But if I'm out driving around, or in a place where the 3G signal is weaker (maybe 2 bars or less, but I haven't really verified that), my phone gets uncomfortably warm in my pocket, and battery usage becomes horrible. I've had the phone drain from full charge to 20% or so in less than two hours.
This problem never happened before I flashed the DL30 Froyo leak. Since then, it has happened on every Froyo ROM I've run, including official ED01 and the community ROM.
I flashed original rom but my battery behavior is still like on 2.3.5 RC4. Charge to 99% and drains very fast. Did someone know how to get back it original life. I tried battery calibrators from the market and battery wipe from clockwork mod but no result
If your optimus is old it is normal that battery life will get worser and worser ... All you can do is get new battery of ebay like I did and now my battery life is normal ...
Mike
It's not old. Its younger than a year. Battery life was good and on swift it last long and charge to 100% but after last time i flashed 2.3.5 rc4 i calibrate it (to try it last longer like on other roms) and now even on stock it drains like on rc4 and not charged to 100%
Use spare parts to see is there app that drain battery.
install "batterycalibration" from market, charge to 100% and calibrate your battery for this rom
Yes i download two battery calibration programs but the problem is that it's not charging to 100% but to 99% and drains very fast after this. i'll calibrate it a few days hope to fix
yeah, that happens to most people.
unplug, use a few seconds or 1min or so and plugin and wait if its fully charged, it could be that you have to do that a few times (2-3x)
coleonyx said:
I flashed original rom but my battery behavior is still like on 2.3.5 RC4. Charge to 99% and drains very fast.
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Your not alone on this, same thing with me.
I have ordered another battery from ebay but dont really know why all of a sudden this just began happening whilst using the same Rom which I think has something to do with it.
I use a program from Market called Android Booster to terminate running programs that start up or dont close once started, as sometimes if you use your camera, it will be still running, even if you close it up so hence battery life turns crap.
But also, if somebody phones me for 5 minutes this also nearly drains my battery, and I have everything also turned off. (WLAN, Blutooth, Data, GPS etc).
So dont know why this is suddenly heavy on the battery as it never seemed to do this when first installed.
There you have it, your not alone but think I will migrate to another or buy another phone as I think its pathetic to have to charge one's phone everyday, or twice a day if you chat to somebody for 5 minutes as it defeats the purpose.
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Yes i download two battery calibration programs but the problem is that it's not charging to 100% but to 99% and drains very fast after this. i'll calibrate it a few days hope to fix
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Try charging through the wall charger instead of through the USB port on your pc. Worked for me then, recalibrate.
Turning off 3G when not needed?
Try turning 2G Network only in Wireless and Network --> Mobile Network
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Try turning 2G Network only in Wireless and Network --> Mobile Network
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I got my brand new battery and even charged it up via Power Supply from the wall.
Have run the phone only on 2G network only box ticked and everything else turned off (and I mean nearly everything) and for whatever reason, the Battery new or old still does not last long.
Even after it charges to 99% says its charged, it discharges very fast, or if somebody phones you and you only talk for 2 minutes the battery drops to like near 30% which is pathetic.
Something is sucking the life out of the battery folks with these Rom's so can somebody exactly put the food on the table here and say, whats up?
zzsomebody said:
I got my brand new battery and even charged it up via Power Supply from the wall.
Have run the phone only on 2G network only box ticked and everything else turned off (and I mean nearly everything) and for whatever reason, the Battery new or old still does not last long.
Even after it charges to 99% says its charged, it discharges very fast, or if somebody phones you and you only talk for 2 minutes the battery drops to like near 30% which is pathetic.
Something is sucking the life out of the battery folks with these Rom's so can somebody exactly put the food on the table here and say, whats up?
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What ROM are you using? It takes some time to charge up the battery and even if it says '99%' that doesn't always mean that it is. What is the capacity of the battery? I'd say charge it for about 6 hours and see then.
Thanks Johnny,
Problem at present seems to be solved now.
Yesterday and before I had been using Mur4ik's CM7 2.0 RC4.
I then uninstalled a stack of apps that I only used every so often and now its like back to normal so I guess it must have been those apps installed.
Folks here is a big tip. Uninstall Apps to test your battery to find out which one is the Energy Hog because even if you are not using them, they seem to be running due to either bad programming of the app or a system management issue related connection between the two.
Now, I have just updated to Mur4ik's CM7 2.0 RC5 and will certainly think twice prior to installing a bunch of things for the sake of installing apps.
Cheers people~!
I'll post everything I've tried and everything that's gone wrong here.
So initially I purchased this phone off of a friend nearly brand new, the screen had broken and had been replaced. Otherwise the phone is in perfect factory condition.
I unlocked the phone, and am using it on Rogers. APN settings working perfectly.
I installed GOLauncherEX on the phone as Motoblur wasn't doing it for me.
Battery life was crap (lasting hardly 3 hours and dying while I sleep). I found that Motoblur HOME had been running alongside GOLauncherEX. At first I simply uninstalled the third-party launcher, but then opted to grab LauncherPro+ and HomeSwitcher. This dramatically improved battery life.
Lately, I've been having issues once in awhile again. Mostly if I leave the phone unplugged while I'm sleeping (fully charged when unplugged) and we'll use the timeline 3am - 11am. It would either die completely or drop to around 15%.
As long as I could have enough charge to last me through work, I was fine with this as it was way better than what had been happening before.
This morning something extreme and unexplainable happened.. and it's the first time I took a look at the battery usage meter to see what had happened. Picture is below.
If someone could offer some tips or help that would benefit me even the slightest, it would be very much appreciated.
My bad for sneaking a link in, but it was the only way to show the issue.
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(Remove the space between 1297964 and 124 at the end)
Oh and also, phone is rooted, bloatware is frozen via Titanium Backup Pro.
Have you recalibrated?
WiredPirate said:
Have you recalibrated?
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Do you have any suggestions as to what to use to calibrate?
I'm not keen on flashing any new roms if that makes a difference.
SL1VR said:
Do you have any suggestions as to what to use to calibrate?
I'm not keen on flashing any new roms if that makes a difference.
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Calibrating is something you may need to do after flashing a ROM, you can search and find a guide or you can use this app.
I have not flashed any new roms and I don't intend on doing so, but I'll check out the app you posted.
Thanks for your help,
any new ideas are still welcome.
The benefits of battery calibration are not limited to only if you flash a new ROM. Battery calibration should be the first thing you try if you are experiencing battery troubles imo, and there is allot more in depth information in the guides you could search for.
There is one more thing I can think of you can try, download Watchdog and see if there are any malicious or poorly written apps burning up your cpu/battery.
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The benefits of battery calibration are not limited to only if you flash a new ROM. Battery calibration should be the first thing you try if you are experiencing battery troubles imo, and there is allot more in depth information in the guides you could search for.
There is one more thing I can think of you can try, download Watchdog and see if there are any malicious or poorly written apps burning up your cpu/battery.
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Thanks for your help, grabbing Watchdog now.
Maybe unlock the bootloader and flash a custom rom?
Go into account and sync and shut off background data. I was getting. 10-12 hours battery life and now over 30 by just doing that. Worked for a buddy at work too.
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Radio is key. After I flashed radio 1.77.30p, my phone can easily using 3 days without freeze anything.
Do not use 1.97 radio and don't use task killers. 2.3.4 gingerbread does a much better job of killing tasks than Froyo did and it's unnecessary. Also, turning off background data is not necessary.
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Do not use 1.97 radio and don't use task killers. 2.3.4 gingerbread does a much better job of killing tasks than Froyo did and it's unnecessary. Also, turning off background data is not necessary.
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I would say it is. Apps including google will try and update and locate your phone via 3g and gps when its sitting there idle. Its not necessary if you only install apps that dont use background data, or disable them individually but some dont allow it.
I still was able to get 15 hours with data enabled and over 30 with it disabled. There is a huge difference there. I just have to open my yahoo now to update it which I dont mind.
While I appreciate everyone's replies and help, has anyone actually looked at the picture I posted?
As much as I am most definitely interested in prolonging my battery life, that picture is showing a sudden drop from 70% to completely dead, idling, screen off, while I'm asleep.
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While I appreciate everyone's replies and help, has anyone actually looked at the picture I posted?
As much as I am most definitely interested in prolonging my battery life, that picture is showing a sudden drop from 70% to completely dead, idling, screen off, while I'm asleep.
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I would purchase a new battery from Motorola, It looks like your battery has one or more bad cells in it. Only thing that really explains it. Even with everything turned ON as far as data - the battery should not drop that far that fast.
i'm not entirely sure whats going on with the charge level dropping so sharply. Either something is draining your battery big time or the readout when it says 100% is incorrect.
I had issues with the battery up time as well. In my case, the battery wouldnt last more than 8-9 hours. I had to charge it two times a day. Once overnight so its 100% when i go to work and again as soon as i get home. If i charged to 100%, unplugged and went to bed, it would be at 15-20% when i woke up.
The last time i went abroad, i left the radio turned off completely. I noticed that the battery held its charge for about a day and a half.
Now i did root, unlock the BL and install CM7 on my phone. It seemed better but not that much. After i setup the phone to NOT use my 3G data connection while my wifi was on, i noticed that i was getting great battery life when i was at home but still rubbish at work.
I'm doing a test right now to see if this makes a difference or not. I have turned off data on my phone all together this morning. I charged it to 100%. Normally after 6 hours at work, my phone is at about 30-35%
Right now its sitting at 75%
the 3g is whats killing the battery, on my phone anyway. I will see how long the battery lasts without turning on my data at all. Then i will compare that with how its like with background data turned off.
I would suggest you try re-calibrating your phone's battery, i use battery calibration from the market. Then either turn data off altogether like i have or just turn background data off as the others have suggested and see what kind of a difference it makes.
While i realize you dont want to, it may help further to have a ROM like CM7 installed as it wont have all the bloatware that can further reduce the performance of your phone. You should definitely give turning the data off a go to see its the culprit before you go spend money on a new battery which may or may not fix the problem.
Best to isolate the root cause before you spend money on fixing it. If turning off the data doesnt do it, then you very well may have a battery problem.
Routaran said:
i'm not entirely sure whats going on with the charge level dropping so sharply. Either something is draining your battery big time or the readout when it says 100% is incorrect.
I had issues with the battery up time as well. In my case, the battery wouldnt last more than 8-9 hours. I had to charge it two times a day. Once overnight so its 100% when i go to work and again as soon as i get home. If i charged to 100%, unplugged and went to bed, it would be at 15-20% when i woke up.
The last time i went abroad, i left the radio turned off completely. I noticed that the battery held its charge for about a day and a half.
Now i did root, unlock the BL and install CM7 on my phone. It seemed better but not that much. After i setup the phone to NOT use my 3G data connection while my wifi was on, i noticed that i was getting great battery life when i was at home but still rubbish at work.
I'm doing a test right now to see if this makes a difference or not. I have turned off data on my phone all together this morning. I charged it to 100%. Normally after 6 hours at work, my phone is at about 30-35%
Right now its sitting at 75%
the 3g is whats killing the battery, on my phone anyway. I will see how long the battery lasts without turning on my data at all. Then i will compare that with how its like with background data turned off.
I would suggest you try re-calibrating your phone's battery, i use battery calibration from the market. Then either turn data off altogether like i have or just turn background data off as the others have suggested and see what kind of a difference it makes.
While i realize you dont want to, it may help further to have a ROM like CM7 installed as it wont have all the bloatware that can further reduce the performance of your phone. You should definitely give turning the data off a go to see its the culprit before you go spend money on a new battery which may or may not fix the problem.
Best to isolate the root cause before you spend money on fixing it. If turning off the data doesnt do it, then you very well may have a battery problem.
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I'll definitely try everything you've mentioned, I did calibrate my battery since I first started this topic. I'm not sure if there's a difference, if there is, it isn't noticeable. My phone died last night, and I charged it overnight again so I haven't had a chance to see if what happened the other night will happen again. Soon enough, I'll post details if I notice anything peculiar.
Since you said you bought the phone off a friend I would like to make sure you have the right battery.
The battery "must" be of the following to show the right charge level, otherwise it might appear the battery discharging very quickly.
The part/model no.: SNN5893A
Manufacturing Date: ??/April/2011 or onwards
In regards to the poster above who mentioned shutting off background data, my phone lasts 17-19 hours running CM7 with nothing frozen, background data on, and I record quite a bit of video + pictures every day. I don't use task killers either. So I'm thinking that maybe the background data thing is either actually covering up a radio problem, a carrier issue, previous ROM information leaking through, or a faulty battery as stated above that could possibly need replaced.