[Q] Why LG E900 Optimus 7 could not work with Android - Optimus 7 General

I do not understand how LG Optimus P920 3D Optimus, Optimus 2X, Optimus Mach LU3000, Black Optimus, Optimus Me P350, Revolution... working on OS Android , LG E900 Optimus7 can not, which is the difference and reason that can not be installed on Android optimus7

No one said it cannot be done. It can probably be done, seeing how all WP7 devices share similar hardware to the HTC Desire-derivative phones. However, the LG Optimus 7 is a Windows Phone, and ships with Windows Phone 7 as its operating system. That is the end of it. All the phones you mentioned from LG come with Android as its operating system. I suggest if you prefer Android to WP7, do not bother with LG Optimus 7.
PS: I tried to answer this as calmly as possibly without breaking my keyboard...

Ok kapanak I am not asked to crush keyboard than you actually did not ask anything, if I want Android and Android will buy, I just wondered if anyone could give me a explanation may which is the difference because I see that some LG phone using Android and I wondered why LG E900 Optimus 7 does not. ate different from the others and uses a different hardware. The LG E900 is the perfect Optimus 7 phone who currently use and we changed it from any other phone.

IMHO I think this is politic of LG and many companies. One phone is with Android other one with WP7. Everybody have a choice. I like Android, I use HTC Desire but bought LG Swift 7 (Optimus 7) to test WP7 and make compare betwen Android and WP7.
LG can assembly the same model of phone to Android and to WP7 but marketing is cruel. More phones will sell with Android neither WP7 (at this moment). And LG will do more phones with AND but there is possible to install WP7.
This is my point of view.

I love my Optimus 7 but it would be great if we had the option to dual boot between WP7 and Android. I wonder when someone finds out how to do it.

Currently there are only 2 phones available that can dual boot different OS's:
1. The Nokia N900 can run Maemo, Android and MeeGo.
2. The HTC HD2 can run WM6.5, Android, WP7 and MeeGo.
The only phone that offers 2 different OS's at the SAME time is the HD2 with WP7 or WP6.5 on Nand and Android on SD as secondary OS.
So if you want such stuff you should go for a HD2.

kapanak said:
No one said it cannot be done. It can probably be done, seeing how all WP7 devices share similar hardware to the HTC Desire-derivative phones. However, the LG Optimus 7 is a Windows Phone, and ships with Windows Phone 7 as its operating system. That is the end of it. All the phones you mentioned from LG come with Android as its operating system. I suggest if you prefer Android to WP7, do not bother with LG Optimus 7.
PS: I tried to answer this as calmly as possibly without breaking my keyboard...
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Why does it have to be either/or? I would like the option to dual boot.
Im always surprised by how much flak this type of question gets on XDA, a forum for hardware hacking and independent software development... Why do i want to flash my phone with android? Because hardware hacking is FUN, and just to say I did it. Not because either android or WP7 is better. If the E900 was an android phone id be interested in flashing it to WP7...

What you fail to grasp is the sheer amount of work required to port Android for a phone that didn't support it in the first place. In the case of WM, it was easy, since XDA members hacked the life out of every one of those phones. There has to be someone willing to spend the time porting Android for this phone. But so far, no one is willing. Of you are up for the challenge, the perhaps you should begin your work, and I am sure once a person begins to show progress, other devs and hackers will follow.

Thanks for being condescending but i fully grasp the amount of work required. Im not asking why its not done, i was simply stating its pretty ridiculous how much people here crap on someone for asking. Do you honestly thing if anyone was actually working on it, this would be the place to show their work? I havent seen a single thread where someone proposed flashing different OS's to a WP7 handset that didnt involve at least one person saying "Dont bother". Its almost like WP7 handsets are sacred here and we shouldnt mess with them too much Strange, considering the idea behind this forum...

It may be due to the fact that for years, people here, and elsewhere, have been spending years customizing their phones OS to make it smoother, faster, more intuitive, and then suddenly, we have this new OS that, despite all its obvious and glaring shortcomings, fullfills that need for "speed", and makes the need for customizations and optimizations less than appealing. ( And iOS doesn't count, that's for a different crowd )
Sent from my LG Optimus 7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

The Problem is not the Hardware (the HD2 uses the same chipset only with lower ram and rom). The problem are the bootloaders. You have to write your own or costumize the original one to allow a 3rd party os. But if somebody know how to extract this files from a lg e900 it would be only a question about some weeks for the first nand android on a lg e900. Because the chipsetdrivers are (theoratically ^^) the same as the HD2 uses.

dstyl said:
The Problem is not the Hardware (the HD2 uses the same chipset only with lower ram and rom). The problem are the bootloaders. You have to write your own or costumize the original one to allow a 3rd party os. But if somebody know how to extract this files from a lg e900 it would be only a question about some weeks for the first nand android on a lg e900. Because the chipsetdrivers are (theoratically ^^) the same as the HD2 uses.
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Got to wait for MAGLDR on optimus 7 then ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfUBo6bzXZ0

kapanak said:
No one said it cannot be done. It can probably be done, seeing how all WP7 devices share similar hardware to the HTC Desire-derivative phones. However, the LG Optimus 7 is a Windows Phone, and ships with Windows Phone 7 as its operating system. That is the end of it. All the phones you mentioned from LG come with Android as its operating system. I suggest if you prefer Android to WP7, do not bother with LG Optimus 7.
PS: I tried to answer this as calmly as possibly without breaking my keyboard...
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i read this post and said lolwut, but yea, it would be great if this phone could get an android port, it does have good potential.
Running WP7: Mango Beta Build 7712

$AUD179 (unlocked), the LG Optimus 7 ... but Android?
suoko said:
Got to wait for MAGLDR on optimus 7 then ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfUBo6bzXZ0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2BDMnYMe5E&feature=related
GINGERBREAD now on my old HD2.
This link is offering $AUD179 (unlocked), the LG Optimus 7 Windows Smartphone:
http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smallfish_info.php?products_id=45298
Better camera, a camera button that does not jolt the camera focus. I'd like to dual boot, cos Android has better third party apps, & more freeware. When I dare upgrade Android, sometimes it puts my phone offline for days, until a solution is found.

I think Android can be ported to Optimus 7 ... there are many Android phones with nearly identical hardware ...
Probably it still needs a minimum effort, so you need to find someone willing to spend his time doing such a thing ...
Btw I think the topic 'how to have windows phone on the possible higher number of devices' is much more interesting than 'how to port Crappoid on our devices'
What I meant to say is : If I was able to, I still would not have spare time for such a 'task'

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ask android

We asked experts if in omnia7 Can start android?
That for now would be no for sure.
spippo said:
We asked experts if in omnia7 Can start android?
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Well, for now its going to be a No NO, why because the developers have very limited access to phones architecture and the xips. At this stage even the apps for wp7 have very limited functionality, for example most WP7 have a digital compass but as of yet no application effectively utilises this feature. However, with the progression of time and new updates coming in we shall see marginal improvement in the WP7 ecosystem. Who knows that some xda developer might be able to emulate android on wp7 and consequently on Omnia 7 as well.
We asked experts if in ANDROID Can start OMNIA7?
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OPPOSITE THINGS= YES WE CAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDBwlZ_jLu8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910918
All this I is a theme. The base is still Android and in NO way WP7. Its cool but its not dual booting Windows and Android.
trax26 said:
OPPOSITE THINGS= YES WE CAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDBwlZ_jLu8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910918
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I hope this will soon be possible. I feel really cheated with my WP7. I can't believe Microsoft can get away with this. I am stuck with a 2 year plan, Omnia 7 trade in price dropped so low, and I have to pay the telco a big penalty if I change phone now.
I'd rather give my money to the developers who can give Android on Omnia 7.
yes i agree with you about the feeling cheated by microsoft they gave the impression of many minor updates as they became available not one or twice a year i cant wait for omnia 7 to be hacked to run android.
on a different note will it ever be possable to create a emulator for wp7 that can mount a iphone app ?
Why people want Android to all phones? Boring...
If the people want android, why they don't bay an android Phone?
why?
Im happy on WP and can't see the reason for using Android. I read a lot before buying my Omnia 7 and dont feel cheated therefore. Mango will be the start for regular users and this close to the update, it would seem like a lot of work for nothing. WP is a more modern plattform so why go backwards, in that case buy a Android device instead.
Android dev for HD2 was understanble, a lot of problems with WM OS made it easyer for daylie users to get a stable phone. Android was a new and better platform in terms of stability.
WP today just works, and Mango will make it complete, or cloae to it.
I find this query odd too. I can understand it if it is the HD2 forum or any WM6.x devices.
There are tons of Android devices with specs equal or superior to the Omnia 7 (like the Galaxy S2). So why bother asking to put Android on the Omnia 7? Just get an Android device.
If it is possible,sounds great.but android gives me a very bad user experience,and I used to have a pocket pc and an android device,I bought wp7 all because of its new UI,and power hardware,these improve the experience.just as what I said,I do not like android,even android on omnia7 is possible.
You should go buy Galaxy S II instead.
Android for omnia7? I'm in! Will donate, how much?
news about android on omnia?
with WP7 Downloader Ver 7.41 for Publish (Add OASIS Latin).rar we should be able to inject android into i8700 veins (as well as ios, probably)
Is something new in this thread ?
No obviously not. The last post was last year. There's not going to be Android on Omnia7 at all.
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UranusHertz said:
I find this query odd too. I can understand it if it is the HD2 forum or any WM6.x devices.
There are tons of Android devices with specs equal or superior to the Omnia 7 (like the Galaxy S2). So why bother asking to put Android on the Omnia 7? Just get an Android device.
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Omnia 7 and Focus are now old enough to be cheaper than equivalent android phones. a 2nd hand HD2 cost about $250 on ebay because everyone who knows about what it can do wants one to play with still. the Samsung Focus costs approx $130.
So if you can run android on it. the resale value of your samsung focus (and omnia 7 because it is similar hardware) will increase.
Guys, you bought yourself a WP, because you wanted a WP.
So, why even start thinking about Android?
Yes, I know, my signature, says, that I've go a Droid. I'd actually prefer a WP, a Samsung WP, to be exact...
I only took an Android, because the German Telecom doesn't have any Samsung WP's anymore...
Back to the point;
WHO CARE'S ABOUT ANDROID??? IT'S CRAP!!!
Believe, me, I'm using one... -.-"
familyguy59 said:
Guys, you bought yourself a WP, because you wanted a WP.
So, why even start thinking about Android?
Yes, I know, my signature, says, that I've go a Droid. I'd actually prefer a WP, a Samsung WP, to be exact...
I only took an Android, because the German Telecom doesn't have any Samsung WP's anymore...
Back to the point;
WHO CARE'S ABOUT ANDROID??? IT'S CRAP!!!
Believe, me, I'm using one... -.-"
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I'm sure everyone is entitled to an opinion, it seems obvious that the people who are asking for android prefer android. I imagine some people may have bought a WP7 phone thinking it would have more development or more apps or just be different, and now would like to see android developed on the device.
I own a HD2, a phone that runs pretty much every OS and I have installed WP7 and Android (aswell as the stock WM6.5). Originally I liked WM6.5 and the mods for that, android was not for me ... infact when WP7 came out I was tempted to get a new phone, when WP7 was made available for HD2 I tried it and my personal opinion is what it does it does well, but it is very limited and closed. My opinion on android has now changed with developments and apps etc and now my phone stays in android mode 99% of the time.
I know people who own the omnia 7 , and as a result i often check here every so often. I thought the idea of this site was development - now you (and various others) may think that development should be limited to the OS that the phone originally came with, but using that logic my beloved HD2 would most likely be gathering dust right about now...

[Q] Android ROM for LG Quantum?

Hi guys,
I just wonder if an Android ROM for LG Quantum will be available soon? The phone comes with Windows Phone 7 and I just can't live with it.
Thank you.
I have not seen or heard of one. I personally do not think it will happen as the lg quantum is not one of the more popular wp7 models. Also there is the fact that you can pretty much buy a phone with android on it with just about any hardware config already.
Miss the good 'ol WM days....
There having trouble porting it to the iphone 4. I wonder how hard it would be to get it on this hardware.
not sure if anyone's even tried, or if anyone that's capable even has a quantum. I sure am though and would be willing to help!
Edit: Well from what i understand WM won't be running on the quantum as the drivers for the compatible hardware aren't cross compatible between wp7 and wm6.5. however i've heard mention of people attempting to run 6.5 executables and such (un-sandboxed apps), if that's possible maybe we can boot using haret or something similar. then again though they would have to take a special interest in getting android running on the device, and it doesnt seem like many have much interest in it....
first step is someone running unsigned apps on the device using some hack or possibly something enabling it in the mango update
hey guys! hope u'd be doing great
im a new bee over here and was about to post a new thread with same discussion this thread having,so i feel better to post here than to create a new thread.
anyway, i have also purchased LG Quantum (c900B) and i am feeling very very restricted like im bound with it, @
i was wondering windows phones can have andriod installed on devices, and i was looking for andriod ROM for this stupid phone
any help ?
or shud i buy another phone :'( ?
please suggest..
Also waiting for Quantum Android
I am eagerly waiting for the LG quantum android ROM as early as possible.
It's doubtful that android will ever be brought over to the LG quantum. It is a low activity device and so far no one has gotten android on a WP7. By the time they get it all figured out or anyone cares enough, the quantum will be old news.
To make this short. Want android? Buy an android phone because you'll be waiting a long time if not forever.
See these posts for similar requests and responses to android on WP7:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472891&highlight=android+rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355762&highlight=android+rom+port
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325185&highlight=android+rom+port
Well,
hardware is VERY capable of Android (same as a Sony Xperia Mini Pro or so...) but the bootloader will never allow you to run Android.
Would be like use diesel gasoline on a standard car...

[Q] What are the steps to install Android on HTC Surround?

What are the steps pls?
Not possible yet.
it MUST be possible! Pleeeeeease, port Android on Surround :'(
Not possible, try Mango
Chinese developers are working on an Android port for HD7... the hardware between the two devices isn't very different
c'mon!! it WILL be possible, if only devs WOULD to do the os porting.
It's easy to say "that's impossible, buy a native android phone" or "try Mango.." etc
isn't this forum for developers? so, why don't they develop?
they simply don't want to do this, I suppose...... :\
no one work on it now
This was the most childish post I've ever seen. 1st you ask for something and then learn you can't have it so you whine.
it's Difficult.no one want to work it now!
Delux9364 said:
Chinese developers are working on an Android port for HD7... the hardware between the two devices isn't very different
c'mon!! it WILL be possible, if only devs WOULD to do the os porting.
It's easy to say "that's impossible, buy a native android phone" or "try Mango.." etc
isn't this forum for developers? so, why don't they develop?
they simply don't want to do this, I suppose...... :\
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I don't know about you but as a person who has written many apps for a few different Operating systems (e.g. Windows, OSX, Linux (Mono,Java), Andriod, Windows Mobile 6.X, and Windows Phone 7) I can tell you the its not hard to get the OS for it since it already exists. The real problem is making drivers for the specific hardware most of the drivers for old windows mobile devices running andriod were just pulled from other phones and modified. However it seems that its not as simple this time other wise we would have something that we would be able to use. I've seen the video from the Chinese forums and I have yet to see any other windows phone 7 devices run Andriod. So as a logical guess i would bet that, that video was a HTC Thunderbolt (or some other similar device) put inside of a Surround Case. Another thing about the video is that the device is extreamly smooth which seems outlandish unless there is a direct port of the drivers from another device. I doubt this as we probably would have a nand version of andriod already. Your right about the hardware being similar but do you see an Andriod port for the HD7? I took a quick glance and didn't see anything about it.
TLDR verion; HD7 is similar but no one has a working version for HD7. Other then Xda.cn and i think that, that video is of another phone in a surround case.
I would just buy an android phone, the Surround's battery is too small anyways.
The usual response, if you want an android device go and buy one.
jeje... I know ny comment do not sound polite but it's the truth.
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please people be positive about this its just like when the hd2 came out many said they couldn't and then devs did it and the negative ones dont say scrap so please let be positive we just need a dev to really try it will save many lives
quite impossible becuz of the hardware compatibility and the build structure of this phone. but who knows one day it can be done?

Android on LG E900?

Hello
Will there ever be the chance to get Android on this telephone?
I'm really annoyed of WP7 and want Android.
With best regards
No. I doubt there'd ever be even an effort to get Android running on the E900.
Why would you do that? It would run slowly as a slug. Everyone knows Android needs a quad core CPU and 8 Gigs of RAM to run at a decent degree.
Yeah, I'm annoyed too since I bought WP7, but I don't think there'll be an Android platform
Microsoft should cut the crap, and wake up and develop finally a serious update.
It's too much bloat in Android for it to run smooth on LG Optimus 7, sorry...
There are many cheap android devices, why don't you buy one? I think that optimus 7 is made to work only on WP7.

A custom rom dft for Optimus 7 when?

Why we havent got a custom rom for our phones? we cant install a lot of apps(like opera or bazaar) if we not have a dft rom. Someone know if any person is developing a custom rom for our smartphone?
thanks and sorry for my english
Chocorap said:
Why we havent got a custom rom for our phones? we cant install a lot of apps(like opera or bazaar) if we not have a dft rom. Someone know if any person is developing a custom rom for our smartphone?
thanks and sorry for my english
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Bazaar is possible to install, don't know about the other one.
Yes bazaar is possible to install, but downloaded applications cannot since it needs a fully unlocked phone. So far we have only interop-unlock available.
although after custom ROMs for samsung, some for LG would be great.
with new folder and bluetooth app
Up, it would be great!
Just today I heard about a new version of Folders with a lot of new features ONLY for completely unlocked devices, not talking about the new Bluetooth-transfer app! Come on, xda, give us this little gift!!
I think it's little strange... Many people choose HTC - Mozart, or HD7.
LG with Optimus 7 provides better battery, and better price.
Unfortunately, Optimus isn't popular
lukasamd said:
I think it's little strange... Many people choose HTC - Mozart, or HD7.
LG with Optimus 7 provides better battery, and better price.
Unfortunately, Optimus isn't popular
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It's not so strange...Optimus 7 might be value for money, but, LG is not so famous for its phones. HTC and Samsung have made many hits in smartphone market the last years
Also, I hate to admit it, but Optimus 7 is fat, heavy and ugly compared to some other Windows Phone devices.
The worst is that, LG, in many occasions, has let us down with the updates/support. As far as I know, open market e900 devices still haven't got official tethering/hidden wifi support and there are many devices with hardware problems like random reboots etc...my next phone will be a Nokia...they seem to care more about their customers.
Maybe, in the future, we may edit system registry so our device be recognized as htc or nokia. Then we will install a cooked firmware from other like samsung, nokia, htc, then install harret and so on . Cool sci fi.
I'm waiting for the DFT rom for optimus 7 too
My previous mobilephone is samsung Focus ,I had flashed the DFT rom,it is so convience to deploy apps.
Unfortunately ,it had been stolen a week ago .
I have ordered an optimus 7 at taobao ,because it is almost the cheapest WP7 device.
I believe that the DFT rom for optimus 7 will be coming sooner or later.
you have forgot to mention that the Optimus 7 is the best Windows Phone
don't revive old post plz...the didnt knew the exists of wp7 root tools in that time...
mmandys said:
My previous mobilephone is samsung Focus ,I had flashed the DFT rom,it is so convience to deploy apps.
Unfortunately ,it had been stolen a week ago .
I have ordered an optimus 7 at taobao ,because it is almost the cheapest WP7 device.
I believe that the DFT rom for optimus 7 will be coming sooner or later.
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Sorry, but what would a ROM DFT?

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