(REQ) Webtop Hacks, Multi-user, Pkg installer - Atrix 4G General

So I have some thoughts on what would make improvments to the devices over all user experiance.
The finger reader is cool, If we could use it to identify two or three people /and/or Have a multi-user support then in the Laptop regard it would be better. Even if it was just Owner/Guest support. I realize that any access other then Owner would open security risk but on the laptop mode this could be a neat thing.
Also Since it is running a lame version of Ubuntu it should support multi user. The Webtop OS, can/should/may support it where I realize that Android isn't really ment for this, it would be a neat option on both OS's.
We really need package manager support in the Webtop. I can't view my bank account correctly due to lack of Java support in firefox and When I attempt to DL and install it, it can't because there is not a package manager. I haven't hacked much at it but it is not there by default.
Of course once the Double rainbow, as some call it, is out then this will be a non-point hence more of a gripe, but if your going to make Ubuntu into a web base OS, why not use Chrome OS, at least it has a App store and a great web browser. (not that firefox isn't but I've been doing chrome since beta).

joeavery2 said:
Of course once the Double rainbow, as some call it, is out then this will be a non-point hence more of a gripe, but if your going to make Ubuntu into a web base OS, why not use Chrome OS, at least it has a App store and a great web browser. (not that firefox isn't but I've been doing chrome since beta).
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*sigh* I really wish people would get their heads straight, because I keep seeing this over and over.
Look.
Nobody has access to the source for Chrome OS except for Google. Chrome OS hasn't been released out of beta yet. This isn't a Google Experience device, so there's no chance in hell that it would have Chrome OS.
Similarly, before you ask for Chrome, nobody (except Google, probably) has access to Chrome for ARM, since source isn't available for that either.

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Google Chrome

So, I've just installed the new Chrome browser from Google and first impressions are that it's a good match for the Shift. Seems pretty fast and the tools bar etc doesn't occupy a lot of screen real estate.
I'm starting this thread as I'm interested to hear other peoples experiences with this browser on the Shift.
Regards,
Dave
It seems pretty snappy, but I'd forgotten how many ads there are are the sites I regularly visit, and it makes me realise how well the AdBlock Firefox extension works.
I just did the first tests too...
I like to flick with the stylus over the screen for scrolling up and down...doesn't work on chrome
also i used the plugins firebug and smart bookmarks bar on FF, which aren't yet supported on chrome.
Should you/we be sending these requests back to google so they can include functionality? Cheers
Hi,
my impression is that it is much faster than IE and FF, but missing add-ons so far. For example, Google's own toolbar. I use it for synchronizing bookmarks.
S.
As far as I know ....
As far as I know it's jet too early to install Google Chrome in a pc......
http://www.webnews.it/news/leggi/9046/chrome-ed-e-subito-vulnerabilita/
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/30983
...vulnerabilities in Chrome...
We all take risks every time we visit a new site, or click on a link in an email. The simple fact of the matter is that the only truly safe way to browse the internet is on someone elses machine, and not to use any kind of internet banking or any other site where personal details can be obtained and compromised!
There are vulnerabilities in *every* mainstream browser, most of which are yet to be found, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't or can't be used.
Each to their own of course!
Regards,
Dave
Yess...
We take risks everyday but, why to use well known bugged browsers?
Regards
Simply because if someone doesn't, future bugs will never get found and fixed. This particular bug has already been fixed in the current version of WebKit and therefore I'd expect to see a new release from Google based on the latest (or later) version of WebKit within a fairly short order.
Yes, this version of Chrome has a number of vulnerabilities, but then again so will IE, Firefox, Opera, Safari - so take your pick!
Thus far though, surfing the web using Chrome on the Shift is proving to be a far more pleasant experience (for me at least) than IE or Firefox.
Regards,
Dave
I absolutely agree....
...but in the meanwhile I prefer to use broswers whose bugs are often fixed allthough it's clear that there are unknown or not jet discovered vulnerabilities.
But it's still just my opinion.
Best solution would be to keep an eye on what happens on some sites like securityfocus.org.
Best regards

Hulu while using dock?

Has anyone read anything about the possibility of watching hulu.com content while using the dock with the desktop version of Firefox? It makes me so angry that hulu blocks smartphone browsers. My hopes are that the "Desktop version of Firefox" will work with hulu.
That would make this phone nearly perfect for my needs.
Netflix would be awesome as well, but I have not read anything about installing plugins, such as silverlight, to the Firefox browser.
I hope the webtop feature is as cool and useful in practice as it looked from the CES demonstrations. It would really put a hamper on the experience, however, if sites like hulu.com still managed to block it.
The Firefox on Atrix is the Ubuntu Linux / ARM version.
Netflix is out. Netflix uses Microsoft Silverlight and there is no way Microsoft is going to release a Linux/ARM version of that.
Hulu might be possible, since it uses Flash instead of Silverlight. But Hulu has blocked a lot of things that aren't Windows/Mac computers and they might choose to block this too.
Rastor said:
The Firefox on Atrix is the Ubuntu Linux / ARM version.
Netflix is out. Netflix uses Microsoft Silverlight and there is no way Microsoft is going to release a Linux/ARM version of that.
Hulu might be possible, since it uses Flash instead of Silverlight. But Hulu has blocked a lot of things that aren't Windows/Mac computers and they might choose to block this too.
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I agree. Netflix is unlikely because of Silverlight. It doesn't work on full linux distros, so not likely to work here. (Although Netflix are developing a dedicated Android app.)
Hulu *should* work. It uses the Flash plugin, and the browser ID *should* indicate Mozilla running on linux, but only time will tell.
I guess the worst case scenario is that Hulu blocks Firefox on the Atrix like it has all the mobile browsers.
The good news is that if this is indeed the full linux distro of firefox, we technically should be able to change the User Agent, and get around the whole problem.
Here's hoping!
Ive seen a video somewhere of hulu running on the laptop dock...
I'm sure Hulu would work right now, the question is, will they choose to block it once they notice...
Hulu works!

[OT] What Legacy Apps Do You Use?

This was part of a discussion I had with a friend lately. I argued that windows 8/RT desktop environment looked fug-ugly compared to WP8/ModernUI and that it needed a MAJOR overhaul. Because TBH windows still looks generally the same now, as it did 10-15 years ago & is only really optimised for displays that are 13-24". But the thing is I see windows going to larger displays (HTPC's and Living Room PC's) and smaller ones (Handsize tablets) and windows on these displays just doesn't function nice.
However, my friend argues that they couldn't change the entire UI/UX of the desktop environment because too much legacy stuff will look out of place and be confusing. I understand this may be the case in a business environment where loads of a wide range of diverse and unique tailored software is used BUT I don't think it's a problem for the average home PC user.
The way I see it is that most people only use a couple of different applications on their home PC/laptop and I'm pretty sure it's only a handful of applications would need updating to the new UI for consumers to not have headaches.
So I was wondering, what do you actually run on a day-to-day basis?
Here's mine.
DAILY:
Chrome
VLC
Office
Adobe Reader
Dropbox* (Doesn't have a UI :laugh: )
That's mine! If MS came up with a much more unified ModernUI inspired desktop, I would only need 5 developers to update their app to the same style and I'd be happy.
All the major web browsers (everything from IE to Opera), not that web browser developers have been respecting their platforms' UI conventions for the last few years anyhow.
Office (mostly Word, OneNote, and Outlook).
Pidgin.
Steam (not that its terribly respectful of UI conventions either).
Windows Explorer (obviously built-in, but the TIFKAM "replacements" are crap unless you have reallllly fat fingers and no mouse).
Various terminal apps (cmd, powershell, bash, etc.).
Visual Studio.
A bunch of others that aren't "every day" but are needed for my job and such, although they rarely get run on my home system.
A bunch of full-screen games, but I suppose those don't count.
On my Acer W510, I've installed:
Chrome - works better than IE with AirDroid for connecting w/my Android phone
iTunes - still use my 7 y/o iPod in my car
Zune - can download 10 drm-free songs monthly on the grandfathered Zune pass subscription
Dropbox
Google Drive
Skydrive - can't upload folders w/the Win store app
Office
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I use dropbox,quake 3,vlc,microsoft office,evernote,pidgin,winamp and WinRAR
Here's what I use normally:
WinSCP
PuTTY
Hyper-V
A few Hyper-V terminals
Pandora One Desktop App
NetBalancer
Mumble
Opera
Firefox
Chrome
Steam
Deluge Manager
Task Manager
Visual Studio 2012 (and various related tools, such as windbg or remote debuggers)
Skype (Desktop Skype, Metro Skype has issues)
X-Chat (Hexchat)
WinRAR
VLC
Xming
Netbeans
Of all of these, the only ones I could see realistically being reproduced in Metro are:
Opera
Firefox
Chrome
Steam
Skype (Well, it is, but I can't get the Metro Skype to stay connected for any length of time)
Mumble
Pandora
X-Chat (Any decent IRC client would do, but there weren't any last I looked)
PuTTY (It could be ported, though I think it would work far better as a window)
VLC
Xming
netham45 said:
Of all of these, the only ones I could see realistically being reproduced in Metro are:
Opera
Firefox
Chrome
Steam
Skype (Well, it is, but I can't get the Metro Skype to stay connected for any length of time)
Mumble
Pandora
X-Chat (Any decent IRC client would do, but there weren't any last I looked)
PuTTY (It could be ported, though I think it would work far better as a window)
VLC
Xming
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Chrome already has (a really poor, is just the desktop browser without any options) Metro browser, Firefox has a beta version that looks and acts like an Android app. Gabe Newell is ****ting his pants over Windows 8 because it cuts him out of game sales completely: the Windows Store is already Steam. I don't know what Mumble is. There is already a third-party Pandora client that is excellent. There are already multiple IRC clients for Windows Metro. A TTY app needs to be Windowed? You really believe that? I run PuTTY on my eMate, let's be real here. VLC is begging for money so that they can decide how and when they want to make a VLC for Metro. I have already moved to MPC-HC and CCCP. I think you will see something like XBMC for Metro before any of the others because it is more portable in terms of being self-contained and not needing to hose down the system with files and registry entries to operate correctly.
dragon_76 said:
Chrome already has (a really poor, is just the desktop browser without any options) Metro browser, Firefox has a beta version that looks and acts like an Android app. Gabe Newell is ****ting his pants over Windows 8 because it cuts him out of game sales completely: the Windows Store is already Steam. I don't know what Mumble is. There is already a third-party Pandora client that is excellent. There are already multiple IRC clients for Windows Metro. A TTY app needs to be Windowed? You really believe that? I run PuTTY on my eMate, let's be real here. VLC is begging for money so that they can decide how and when they want to make a VLC for Metro. I have already moved to MPC-HC and CCCP. I think you will see something like XBMC for Metro before any of the others because it is more portable in terms of being self-contained and not needing to hose down the system with files and registry entries to operate correctly.
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Gabe Newell is going crazy because of competition. The Store is not replacing Steam, the games in it are at a different level (mobile casual games) than the desktop games from Steam.
scaryshark said:
The way I see it is that most people only use a couple of different applications on their home PC/laptop and I'm pretty sure it's only a handful of applications would need updating to the new UI for consumers to not have headaches.
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While I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't use their PC's for much beyond e-mail and the web, I think you're vastly underestimating the number of people who DO use more than just a handful of basic applications.
On a typical day, I use:
At least 3 to 4 programs from the Adobe Master Collection, and I need frequent access to all but maybe 3.
Several 3D programs including LightWave 3D and Luxology Modo.
SmartFTP
Virtualbox
Tight VNC client
All the major web browsers
Several small utilities like notepad++, Media Player Classic, etc.
That's my biggest criticism of the new UI - it pretty much assumes no one does anything productive with their computers. If Microsoft truly thought it was the future, why isn't Office fully Metro complaint? Because a touch UI is simply not an efficient way to control applications with ANY degree of complexity.
I appreciate this thread, as I am considering what I really do with my legacy apps that I can't do on rt. I use office, and adobe, but really on a day to day basis that is really it. Office 2013 works with metro ui, so I wonder just how beneficial legacy apps, other than games that are desktop, are going to be in the future. I have the Sammy Ativ smartpc 500t btw. I love it, but really dig the look and design of the surface. RT made me go with the intel run tablet, and I know the surface pro is coming out, but a bit pricey. Anyway, as I say, the two main legacy apps I use are office and adobe.
dragon_76 said:
Chrome already has (a really poor, is just the desktop browser without any options) Metro browser, Firefox has a beta version that looks and acts like an Android app. Gabe Newell is ****ting his pants over Windows 8 because it cuts him out of game sales completely: the Windows Store is already Steam. I don't know what Mumble is. There is already a third-party Pandora client that is excellent. There are already multiple IRC clients for Windows Metro. A TTY app needs to be Windowed? You really believe that? I run PuTTY on my eMate, let's be real here. VLC is begging for money so that they can decide how and when they want to make a VLC for Metro. I have already moved to MPC-HC and CCCP. I think you will see something like XBMC for Metro before any of the others because it is more portable in terms of being self-contained and not needing to hose down the system with files and registry entries to operate correctly.
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I posted those on that list regardless if they were ported or not to Metro.
Steam is better than Windows 8's games purely because of the already-established userbase/games
Mumble is a VoIP solution geared towards gaming
The third-party Pandora client, while decent, still has some standby issues on Windows RT. I'm hoping the official client (if/when it comes out) will have these solved.
Yes, I believe an SSH client is better off windowed. It's nice to be able to have a web browser and multiple SSH clients open on one screen. Also, there's no need to be condescending over a matter of preference.
VLC is looking for aid to help pay off the development costs for a totally-free app they produce, I don't think it's unreasonable for them to ask. MPC-HC requires codec packs (such as CCCP), whereas VLC has their codec packs bundled in, making an easier all-in-one install. I do agree that XBMC is a likely candidate for being ported first.
Spectredroid said:
Office 2013 works with metro ui
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Anyway, as I say, the two main legacy apps I use are office and adobe.
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Unless I'm mistaken (which I could be), Office 2013 does not work in metro - it's run from the RT desktop ui, so it's not really a "metro" application.
And when you say you use Adobe, what do you mean by that? It could refer to anything from Adobe Acrobat reader to Photoshop, After Effects and the rest of their graphic applications.
If you just use Acrobat Reader, there probably is, or will shortly be, a fully metro compliant reader, so that wouldn't be a problem. But if you use one of Adobe's graphics programs, there isn't, and I can't see there ever being, Metro and/or RT versions. First, the ARM architecture just doesn't offer the performance needed for the type of work Adobe's applications were designed to do. And second, the Metro/touch ui just doesn't facilitate the on-screen information density needed for the amount and intracasy of the tools.
Adobe may make "Touch" apps for Metro/RT similar to Photoshop Touch on iOS, but that's extremely limited in features and capabilities.
So if you need to use any of Adobe's main graphics programs, there's your decision right there - RT is out. If you just need to view PDFs, aside from the previously mentioned Office, then RT is a viable option.

[Q] [Discussion] What Apps you need for Firefox OS ?

Ehm.. Hello.. I am Ahmed Nefzaoui.. I am a Mozilla Community member.. From Tunisia.. and a Mozilla Official Representative.
No one denies Firefox OS needs more Apps.. OR let's say needs more well performing Apps.. That's what I am aiming at making true.. Or making part of it true.. That is why I am asking around:
What Apps do you want to see on Firefox OS marketplace? Maybe the question should be: What apps you miss from Android or iOS that you want in Firefox OS?
Please list as many Apps as possible. Thanx!
A SSH client
Well, I am a sysadmin, not a developer.
Try port FirefoxSSH to Firefox OS
Calendar and address book app with full caldav and carddav support.
CPU control or something like this
Great ones But to be honest.. I was expecting kind of apps like productivity, utilities, news, weather + some style guides, custom UIs..
Remote desktop to windows machine.
Multimedia apps like NetFlix, Hulu, HBO Go, etc.
Launchers, so you can pick and choose the feel of the phone, etc.
How about "Personal Accounting Software" or like this?
Ahmed Nefzaoui said:
Great ones But to be honest.. I was expecting kind of apps like productivity, utilities, news, weather + some style guides, custom UIs..
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How about a fully customizable open source (!) dictionary software with full (!) support for StarDict?
Whatsapp. None other needed. I have sent a request to the developers but no response as yet. Rest not that necessary...
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Ahmed Nefzaoui said:
Ehm.. Hello.. I am Ahmed Nefzaoui..
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Im an android user ever since eclair and this apps make me stay on android os:
AIDE (on the Phone IDE and compiler)
AndFTP
AndroPHP (on the Phone PHP/MySQL Server)
Android Assistant (Multi-Purpose Phone Monitoring Tool)
Beats or DSP by CM (Sound Enhancement)
Control Panel for cPanel
Dj Studio
Droid VPN
Expense Manager
Fast Burst Camera
Firefox
FPse
Go SMS
gStrings
Guitar PRO
GameBoid
Genesis
Geroid
GBcoid
Halo/Multiwindow
Instagram
Jbed
Joooid
Link2SD
My Tracks
Mx Player
Nesoid
Nova Launcher
Open Bibles
Opera Mini
PPSSPP
Project NOAH
QuickPIC
Root Explorer
Shadyface
SMS Bomber
Sweep2wake
Titanium BackUP
uTorrent
I was browsing around and saw this thread. Good timing too!
I have been thinking a lot about Firefox OS and how it may be the best hope at open source seeing as how Google is slowly taking backing away from open sourcing and making things rely on their closed APIs.
Anyway, I've given it some thought and I've realized that for Firefox OS to ever succeed, it will really be up to the app developers that choose to port or write apps, and lastly OEMs.
I'm not sure the people got the idea as they're listing forms of apps that are non essential or third party entertainment, that will eventually make its way over once the OS gains numbers.
Netflix, emulators, games ...would be nice but not essential to my mobile device as a productivity device. I would love if all my apps could be ported, but that's being too hopeful.
Bare bones, at the minimum, these are the most essential things:
1) A good simple note taking app. Nothing fancy. Think of AK Notepad or ColorNote
2) An office suite like OfficeSuite by Mobile Systems. & A good PDF reader with annotation support like ezPDF Reader
3) A good ebook reader with multi format support, like Cool Reader or Aldiko
4) A Google Voice dialer app (GrooveIP) + SIP and VOIP capabilities
+ A built-in text/messaging app would beat any third party options
5) A good email and contact system. This is a must have. I want to see easy transfer of Gmail and Outlook contacts + no frills push notifications.
6) An intuitive stocks app. I want to be able to gains / loses and real time prices. Lock screen widget of this would be nice.
7) Maps + Navigation (This a must)
It doesn't have to be Google. Although it would be preferred.
8) News/RSS reader + an app like pocket or read it later. + Podcast support
+ A forums reader like Tapatalk
Bonus...
If you guys could get devs or companies on board...
Dropbox
Pandora
Microsoft's recently released remote desktop or another alternative like Splashtop
Might be moot, but maybe you guys can work together with Adobe to port Flash (I know it's a long shot given they called it quits on mobile)
whatsapp. zello, line,viber hangouts...
Thanks
Share files with a computer through wifi
Offline dictionary
Control PC
VPN
Thanks
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SMOKERBUNNY said:
whatsapp. zello, line,viber hangouts...
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Firefox OS WhatsApp reach before end of year
http://www.movilzona.es/2013/10/04/whatsapp-llegara-firefox-os-antes-de-final-de-ano/
VK, google maps, hangouts, guitar tuner, some country-specific apps like 2gis, yandex.traffic, anybalance.
Ahmed Nefzaoui said:
Ehm.. Hello.. I am Ahmed Nefzaoui.. I am a Mozilla Community member.. From Tunisia.. and a Mozilla Official Representative.
No one denies Firefox OS needs more Apps.. OR let's say needs more well performing Apps.. That's what I am aiming at making true.. Or making part of it true.. That is why I am asking around:
What Apps do you want to see on Firefox OS marketplace? Maybe the question should be: What apps you miss from Android or iOS that you want in Firefox OS?
Please list as many Apps as possible. Thanx!
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A MUST for me: Spotify
Not so neccesary: Instagram, Netflix, Photoshop Express, maybe Google Music, Snapchat, native Foursquare, Facebook Messenger...
For me the most needed smartphone apps are (not in this order.) : mail clients, chat clients, internet browser, navigation/maps, file manager, ssh/sftp clients, conversation recording (I'm using it very seldom, but it is a quite nice, almost important feature for me.), camera, sms , smart keyboards are quite nice also, notifications, calendar / task planners, video players... That's it I think.
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Before to get Apps,we need an Excelent App-Caching(the most important part in such OS) and the best Responsiveness we can get.
About Apps,i think you guys(Mozilla) should do a Campaign to incite/stimulate developers to port their existing apps to Firefos OS(i hope all Packaged apps,at least near all of them)so you won't have the need to code,or other stuff related.
I actually own an Alcatel one Touch Fire..as main phone,and i think this will be very handly,i have this hope in Mozilla.
We need an Official channel directly with the our mother(Mozilla) to have upgrades for our phones,cause carriers are going to do a Bottle-neck effect on our phone software,and to do this ,the best choice is to get prebuilded-builds,probably it's hard but not all the people can follow that loooong Wiki on how-to-build-it-your-self.
Take the idea to implement Node-Js,i think it will be helpful this guy already doing something http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2374160
As Google and the others company,Mozilla need to do simple way to take care of his Users
about apps: OpenVpn,SSH,PC-remote controlling(i'm thinking about a Gnome-Mozilla Collaboration
If you ask me, Firefox has had "apps" almost from the beginning. They are called "addons" (or, before that, extensions) and they handled all sorts of tasks which, prior to that, had only been possible as standalone applications on your desktop.
So consider my disappointment in finding out that all these addons are gone from the Firefox OS browser. They cannot be installed, as far as I can tell. There is not even any Adblock Plus. To me, this is insane, because the addons are the Firefox browser's greatest strength. Can someone explain this to me?
Graphic calculator will be a nice addition
Screen dimmer/ color editor (to make it look more green or red or anything)
adblock?
Hei Azuz !did you read this?
we all replyed to you,can you show to us a conversation about you and this topic to Mozilla?

Stock Rom: Unreadable status bar with Firefox

When running Firefox on the stock rom, the status bar turns white while the text remains white so that the time, date, signal, and other status bar items are unreadable. I tried changing the system themes and the Firefox themes without any change. Is there any other possible solution to force the status bar to any color other than white with Firefox? I guess I could use an unofficial build, but I wanted to try out the play store version for a while.
dweekie said:
When running Firefox on the stock rom, the status bar turns white while the text remains white so that the time, date, signal, and other status bar items are unreadable. I tried changing the system themes and the Firefox themes without any change. Is there any other possible solution to force the status bar to any color other than white with Firefox? I guess I could use an unofficial build, but I wanted to try out the play store version for a while.
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This is a known Firefox bug, and they are working on it. If you must use Firefox, install the beta version, which will give the fix a little quicker.
Firefox is my favorite browser on desktops. But, It's still a little too buggy for me on Android.
tsongming said:
This is a known Firefox bug, and they are working on it. If you must use Firefox, install the beta version, which will give the fix a little quicker.
Firefox is my favorite browser on desktops. But, It's still a little too buggy for me on Android.
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Thanks, I guess I'll have to be patient since the beta and nightlies exhibit the same result.
I thought Firefox Focus was great and wanted to try Firefox Quantum across the platforms after years of using mainly Chrome. Chrome for Android still freezes and crashes on pages with heavy ads (including ESPN), and it has been that case for years. I'm still not sure why....
dweekie said:
Thanks, I guess I'll have to be patient since the beta and nightlies exhibit the same result.
I thought Firefox Focus was great and wanted to try Firefox Quantum across the platforms after years of using mainly Chrome. Chrome for Android still freezes and crashes on pages with heavy ads (including ESPN), and it has been that case for years. I'm still not sure why....
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Did you update to 5.8.21s ?
If so force close the browser and clear the cache in the browser app settings
Also try the stock browser, it's pretty decent.
dweekie said:
Thanks, I guess I'll have to be patient since the beta and nightlies exhibit the same result.
I thought Firefox Focus was great and wanted to try Firefox Quantum across the platforms after years of using mainly Chrome. Chrome for Android still freezes and crashes on pages with heavy ads (including ESPN), and it has been that case for years. I'm still not sure why....
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I tried ESPN and it works just fine. I've got a Pro3 Elite (x722) with a SD820 on 20s (a cleaned vendor ROM from Banggood). Then again, I've uninstalled all LeEco apps, save for Phone and Contacts, and I'm running Adguard for adblocking. You really need VPN adblocking, my friend. It will revolutionize the way you browse on mobile. And I'm not talking about uBlock Origin on Firefox for Android, which isn't always reliable (sometimes it simply doesn't load).
Either that, or try a browser that supports adblockers natively, like Samsung Internet. Firefox Quantum on desktop is great--I'm using it right now, but FF for Android sucks. You can try Waterfox, a popular fork of Firefox. It has an Android app too.
tsongming said:
Did you update to 5.8.21s ?
If so force close the browser and clear the cache in the browser app settings
Also try the stock browser, it's pretty decent.
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sk8223 said:
I tried ESPN and it works just fine. I've got a Pro3 Elite (x722) with a SD820 on 20s (a cleaned vendor ROM from Banggood). Then again, I've uninstalled all LeEco apps, save for Phone and Contacts, and I'm running Adguard for adblocking. You really need VPN adblocking, my friend. It will revolutionize the way you browse on mobile. And I'm not talking about uBlock Origin on Firefox for Android, which isn't always reliable (sometimes it simply doesn't load).
Either that, or try a browser that supports adblockers natively, like Samsung Internet. Firefox Quantum on desktop is great--I'm using it right now, but FF for Android sucks. You can try Waterfox, a popular fork of Firefox. It has an Android app too.
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I'm on 21s. The Chrome freezing bug has been recurring for years as far as I can remember, through my Nexus 4, 5, 6, and 6P. I think adblocking helped, but it still freezes regularly on some sites.
I installed AdGuard Premium and am still testing it (page loading delays and errors, battery, whitelisting, etc). I may just break down and root this phone to compare to Adaway for fun. I've been hesitant to try custom roms as I prefer maximum battery life over other benefits.
LeEco was a slight deviation and a breath of fresh air for battery life. It's just annoying to have merely a few months of software support from the company.
Thanks for all the suggestions!
dweekie said:
I'm on 21s. The Chrome freezing bug has been recurring for years as far as I can remember, through my Nexus 4, 5, 6, and 6P. I think adblocking helped, but it still freezes regularly on some sites.
I installed AdGuard Premium and am still testing it (page loading delays and errors, battery, whitelisting, etc). I may just break down and root this phone to compare to Adaway for fun. I've been hesitant to try custom roms as I prefer maximum battery life over other benefits.
LeEco was a slight deviation and a breath of fresh air for battery life. It's just annoying to have merely a few months of software support from the company.
Thanks for all the suggestions!
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Adaway is pretty fantastic. In fact, I haven't seen ads since installing it. You do a have a few options for ad blocking without rooting: Brokada is excellent, and blocks Ads in apps as well. But, you will see the occasional ad.
Another non root option is Ad Clear, which places a firewall on IPV6. I haven't used AdGuard premium, is there no where in the settings for filter addons/updates or firewall blocking?
If you decide root the phone, be very careful if you haven't gone through extended steps of unlocking the bootloader. As you know, you could brick your device.
If you decide to go for it. I recommend AICP, or Omnirom both will give you continued long battery life, and allows you to use the Pixel Modded camera with zero issues.
If you need help with unlocking your bootloader, rom installation and rooting, let me know and I can send you detailed instructions. Just so you know once you unlock the bootloader and install Twrp, the rest is easy and you can always return to stock if wanted.
dweekie said:
I'm on 21s. The Chrome freezing bug has been recurring for years as far as I can remember, through my Nexus 4, 5, 6, and 6P. I think adblocking helped, but it still freezes regularly on some sites.
I installed AdGuard Premium and am still testing it (page loading delays and errors, battery, whitelisting, etc). I may just break down and root this phone to compare to Adaway for fun. I've been hesitant to try custom roms as I prefer maximum battery life over other benefits.
LeEco was a slight deviation and a breath of fresh air for battery life. It's just annoying to have merely a few months of software support from the company.
Thanks for all the suggestions!
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Chrome freezing in general, or just on ESPN? If it still happens with adblocking, then the issue lies with ESPN. They're not doing a proper job of optimizing their mobile page for Android. As for Chrome freezing in general, I've never seen that happen... well, except when trying to type a reply on reddit in desktop mode. Then again, I don't visit any heavy websites. Just a lot of text-based ones.
I used to use Adaway a lot, but the lack of good lists for it makes it kind of... useless. Like it doesn't block ads in the mobile version of Google.com. Or mobile version Twitter ads or sponsored tweets. It's nowhere near as useful as, say uBlock for your PC or Firefox Android (whenever it works). It's up to you to create a list of your own with all those blocked elements. Neither do AdGuard, DNS66, or Blockada, for that matter. Mobile adblocking is still in its infancy, unfortunately.
sk8223 said:
Chrome freezing in general, or just on ESPN? If it still happens with adblocking, then the issue lies with ESPN. They're not doing a proper job of optimizing their mobile page for Android. As for Chrome freezing in general, I've never seen that happen... well, except when trying to type a reply on reddit in desktop mode. Then again, I don't visit any heavy websites. Just a lot of text-based ones.
I used to use Adaway a lot, but the lack of good lists for it makes it kind of... useless. Like it doesn't block ads in the mobile version of Google.com. Or mobile version Twitter ads or sponsored tweets. It's nowhere near as useful as, say uBlock for your PC or Firefox Android (whenever it works). It's up to you to create a list of your own with all those blocked elements. Neither do AdGuard, DNS66, or Blockada, for that matter. Mobile adblocking is still in its infancy, unfortunately.
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AdClear is the strongest ad blocker app that I have used. But, it seems to sometimes cause applications to hang.
The newest version of Adaway is very good. But, for it to work extremely well, I update the host files daily and use my own filter links.
I tried DNS666 and didn't see any blocking at all. There is a Adblock module that can be installed through Magisk called: Unified Hosts. Install that in conjunction with Adaway and you will not see ads.
Yeah, the issue is that Adaway, DNS66 and Blockada depend on hosts files and I haven't found any thorough ones yet. The repositories uBlock Origin uses aren't hosts files AFAIK and you'd have to convert them to hosts files for use with those apps. Adguard will accept uBlock filters though.
sk8223 said:
Yeah, the issue is that Adaway, DNS66 and Blockada depend on hosts files and I haven't found any thorough ones yet. The repositories uBlock Origin uses aren't hosts files AFAIK and you'd have to convert them to hosts files for use with those apps. Adguard will accept uBlock filters though.
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AdAway now has the ability to use links.
Here is an excellent source for links updated daily: https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts
Go down the page to : Sources of hosts data unified in this variant
Use can either use the link and add Adaways user links, or you can generate you own host files by using tool here: https://hostsaway.appspot.com/
Note:
This page is in Japanese, it will convert to English if you set Chrome to always translate Japanese to English.
Instructions here: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/173424?co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop&hl=en
sk8223 said:
Chrome freezing in general, or just on ESPN? If it still happens with adblocking, then the issue lies with ESPN. They're not doing a proper job of optimizing their mobile page for Android. As for Chrome freezing in general, I've never seen that happen... well, except when trying to type a reply on reddit in desktop mode. Then again, I don't visit any heavy websites. Just a lot of text-based ones.
I used to use Adaway a lot, but the lack of good lists for it makes it kind of... useless. Like it doesn't block ads in the mobile version of Google.com. Or mobile version Twitter ads or sponsored tweets. It's nowhere near as useful as, say uBlock for your PC or Firefox Android (whenever it works). It's up to you to create a list of your own with all those blocked elements. Neither do AdGuard, DNS66, or Blockada, for that matter. Mobile adblocking is still in its infancy, unfortunately.
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It's a lot of random sites as well as ESPN; Business Insider is another one that will hang on me randomly. Adguard defaults don't prevent it. I've kind of just accepted Chrome freezing as normal expected behavior over the years.
Thanks for all the input everyone. I haven't really explored VPN adblocking prior to this thread, but I'll definitely play around with it further. I am rather curious what to expect from Chrome's built-in minimal adblocker in the future. I'm actually okay with some ads to support websites, but the bad ones truly ruin it for everyone.
dweekie said:
It's a lot of random sites as well as ESPN; Business Insider is another one that will hang on me randomly. Adguard defaults don't prevent it. I've kind of just accepted Chrome freezing as normal expected behavior over the years.
Thanks for all the input everyone. I haven't really explored VPN adblocking prior to this thread, but I'll definitely play around with it further. I am rather curious what to expect from Chrome's built-in minimal adblocker in the future. I'm actually okay with some ads to support websites, but the bad ones truly ruin it for everyone.
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It could be a number of things. Again, uninstall LeEco bloatware via adb. Try other browsers like Samsung Internet, which is purportedly much faster than Chrome. And use it with an adblocking add-on like Adhell. I doubt Chrome's adblocker will be very effective, considering that Google makes the bulk of its money from ad revenue and those Analytics scripts aren't exactly lightweight.
Record your screen and visit those sites in Chrome. I'm curious about how bad it gets.
I'm with you about supporting websites through ads, but too many websites run ridiculous ads that drive up your CPU use. And what about all those stupid websites that use cryptomining ads? No thanks. As long as the ad industry stays shady, and websites aren't transparent about the ads they run, I'm going to keep using an adblocker.

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