[Q] ROM Kitchen EPIC - Epic 4G General

is there still not a kitchen yet??
would love to use one i guess i can learn the basic from scratch if not thanks again guys

Not yet,Im sure we will have on once we start getting official 2.2 deodexed working ROMs out.
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ecooce said:
Not yet,Im sure we will have on once we start getting official 2.2 deodexed working ROMs out.
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I think this sort of thing is one of the biggest real annoyances of not having Froyo yet. To be honest the leaked DK28 is pretty good, but I think everyone (myself included) feels hesitant to commit to things because we'll do it "after Froyo comes".
For the longest time I did not upgrade to the DK28 because I figured fully cooked Froyo was around the corner. Certainly if I was a dev I would be hesitant to put effort into a ROM or a kitchen (not to mention kernal) until the final version was out. The biggest problem with not having it yet is not missing some specific features, its just that all the development for the Epic has this somewhat tentative feel to it as we all wait for Froyo and the Froyo source code.

exactly,I didnt want to make a ROM,but I had to get the name out there anyway,so....but yeah alot of devs really arnt giving 100% time/effort yet,but from what I hear somthing solid will be coming down the pipe very soon...
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I think this sort of thing is one of the biggest real annoyances of not having Froyo yet. To be honest the leaked DK28 is pretty good, but I think everyone (myself included) feels hesitant to commit to things because we'll do it "after Froyo comes".
For the longest time I did not upgrade to the DK28 because I figured fully cooked Froyo was around the corner. Certainly if I was a dev I would be hesitant to put effort into a ROM or a kitchen (not to mention kernal) until the final version was out. The biggest problem with not having it yet is not missing some specific features, its just that all the development for the Epic has this somewhat tentative feel to it as we all wait for Froyo and the Froyo source code.
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Sounds good fellas thanks I figured that just wanted confirmation .....im a themer and starting to learn rom development but want to get a stable froyo so we shall wait patiently as we have been
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What exactly is "the kitchen". I haven't really seen that term here much.

swanysto said:
What exactly is "the kitchen". I haven't really seen that term here much.
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A kitchen is a way of setting up custom roms on the fly. Usually it's web based - you click through a series of pages choosing exactly what features you want in your rom. e.g. I want kernal x, with theme y, with boot animation z, etc. Often you also get a list of apps you can have pre-installed on the ROM - typically freeware system tweaking stuff (Spare Parts, ATK, etc.) You get to the last page, click the button and poof, a customized ROM downloads to your computer. You just move it the SD card, load it up in recovery and you're good to go.
Sounds pretty great, because it really is, but no one is going to bother to set all that up until we have some finalized Froyo on hand. Really, it is unlikely to happen until after we have the Froyo source code, and then after custom kernels are released, which will take even longer.
In the meantime we wait...

Is there anywhere/anyone that/who could teach me how Android runs so that I can do some custom mods when we do finally get Froyo? I'm new to the developing scene.

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Eugene OR TeamWhiskey 2.2

So it looks like they both have working 2.2 builds out in the wild now. My question is which one is better, or which one are YOU going to use? Let's try and keep the comparison here, that way we don't clog up both of these wonderful dev's threads.
I have never used either since I'm still stock. What was the general consensus before their new 2.2 builds?
I wouldn't know. They both have a huge following though. What I have noticed is that each one has very loyal followers. It almost seems as if its "either one or the other". But since it is now 2.2, it is a completely different ball game.
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I wouldn't know. They both have a huge following though. What I have noticed is that each one has very loyal followers. It almost seems as if its "either one or the other". But since it is now 2.2, it is a completely different ball game.
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I thinks it's really your preference no two vibrants are the same so whatever works best for your phone and for you is what matters try them both try them all you'll figure out what's best for you I'm running bionix final with jacs oc/uv kernel but I've tried the froyo roms they are cool but for me this works best have fun and for the love of god stay drunk
Times never wasted when your getting waisted
I thinks it's really your preference no two vibrants are the same so whatever works best for your phone and for you is what matters try them both try them all you'll figure out what's best for you I'm running bionix final with jacs oc/uv kernel but I've tried the froyo roms they are cool but for me this works best have fun and for the love of god stay drunk
Times never wasted when your getting waisted
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lol +1
I love you man. nohomo
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My question is which one is better?
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Fair question, but somewhat irrelevant in my opinion. My experience with stock vs cooked ROMs (MT3G CM6) is that the only real advantage is better speed. Sure, a few different user-experience changes, but that's all. An the stock ROMs are far more stable.
My stock Vibrant is already plenty fast. I'm rooted and can use root-only apps. My Dolphin browser already displays Flash. JIT will make it technically faster, but will I actually notice..? What would Eugene or TeamWhiskey add to that...?
Have not tried either but am running fusion by team wiskey with there kernel. Phone runs to good to worry about 2.2.
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Fair question, but somewhat irrelevant in my opinion. My experience with stock vs cooked ROMs (MT3G CM6) is that the only real advantage is better speed. Sure, a few different user-experience changes, but that's all. An the stock ROMs are far more stable.
My stock Vibrant is already plenty fast. I'm rooted and can use root-only apps. My Dolphin browser already displays Flash. JIT will make it technically faster, but will I actually notice..? What would Eugene or TeamWhiskey add to that...?
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What flash are you running on stock?
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Have not tried either but am running fusion by team wiskey with there kernel. Phone runs to good to worry about 2.2.
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I like this post cause so many people wanna be on 2.2 for a lot of
Reasons but I only want the flash player lol
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Team whiskey roms are far too buggy to rely on
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Team whiskey roms are far too buggy to rely on
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This statement is very inaccurate. When was the last time you installed a bionix rom?
I'm running the 2.2 and it is flawless. 2.2 offers a lot of improvements over 2.1 besides flash. If you don't know what those are then you really shouldn't be giving uninformed information.
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Which one looks like stock? Both? I really despise the all black theme I see on the 2.1 Bionix roms. It just looks tacky in some places like the notifications pull down and it's too black. I see Macnut looks kind of like stock.. no screenshots included with either tho. Either way I've downloaded Macnut and I will be installing it ASAP. I'll try the other 2.2 rom next..
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I like this post cause so many people wanna be on 2.2 for a lot of
Reasons but I only want the flash player lol
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2.2 is A VERY BIG update. I dont know about Vibrant, but it should improve battery, it should run faster due to JIT, it has MANY extra features, and its compatible with 2.2 apps (new Gmail, Chrome-to-phone, youtube, flash...etc). move to 2.3 is not that big
that said, i trust TW more then Eugene.
Personally I think it's too soon to be worried about which one is better for general use. I'd give it a little time for each to get some additional polish unless you just enjoy flashing roms all the time every time a new one comes out. Chances are there'll be bug-fixes and tweaks to both in the next few days. Wait for that and more feedback from the early adopters and then decide...
When I got my phone used it had Eugenes rom on it, but I felt Bionix and team Whiskeys roms have been the best roms besides CM.
Put it this way I have only donated to 2 developers, #1 CM and #2 Team Whiskey.
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This statement is very inaccurate. When was the last time you installed a bionix rom?
I'm running the 2.2 and it is flawless. 2.2 offers a lot of improvements over 2.1 besides flash. If you don't know what those are then you really shouldn't be giving uninformed information.
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It isn't flawless. Calendar doesn't sync. Holding back results in a FC (new screenshot feature not implemented properly). I've had inconsistency in the market. Don't get me wrong, I'm using it and I like it, but don't throw the word 'flawless' around so easily.
If you remove screencapture.apk that fixes the back button long press fc and you need to install calendar(something).apk to fix sync issues..
It all comes down to personal preference. My experience with Eugene's 2.1 ROMs are that they're TOO skinned. I personally prefer Team Whiskey.
To answer your question about which looks more stock, Team Whiskey hasn't really skinned the Obsidian ROM all that much, so it basically looks like Stock TouchWiz.
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It isn't flawless. Calendar doesn't sync. Holding back results in a FC (new screenshot feature not implemented properly). I've had inconsistency in the market. Don't get me wrong, I'm using it and I like it, but don't throw the word 'flawless' around so easily.
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there is a fix already for both
I was using Macnut R7 and was about to flash R9 but Team Whiskeys downloaded faster. The major difference between R9 and 7 is, wi fi calling, modem and working gps with some minor tweeks.
If that is true then my comparison won't be too far off.
The biggest difference between the too is that Team W is a near perfect leak of the official 2.2 rom and Eugene's has some mods like built lag fix and a modified version of T.W. which for the most part is better than stock (not perfect but better; in my opinion)
That should really be what makes you choose which one you want.
Secondary things to think about is that, whiskey roms are known for getting official ota's which is nice if you want to get the official with little work, but its still kinda glitchy and slower than Eugenes, but not in a bad way. If you are running stock without a lag fix then you won't notice much. Eugene's rom is highly modded and some stock things won't work like if you still have avatar on your sdcard, and since his is a port there are some remnants of I9000 and cappy things floating around that can throw you off. But it is less glitchy atm and too me looks better. It has a lightly themed Modified TW. But you can get and install that yourself if you want there is a link in the macnut thread.
Hope that helps. I'm Running tw's rom now but I'm going to check out R9.

[Q] Why do I feel like I'm being left out on developments?

I feel like the Aria is slow with developments. NOT COMPLAINING, I love liberated and CM6 (awesome, btw) but when do you think new ROMS are going to come out?
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I feel like the Aria is slow with developments. NOT COMPLAINING, I love liberated and CM6 (awesome, btw) but when do you think new ROMS are going to come out?
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New ROMS based on what??? We have HTC Sense ROMs for Eclair 2.1 and Froyo 2.2 and AOSP CM 6.1. What else are you looking?
Personally I hate visiting the other device forums because everybody and their brother has 'cooked' up another ROM (mostly just new themes or added favorite apps). IMO who has time to stiff through all the various ROMs and threads? I find it much easier to review 3 different ROM threads and try to help others than to try and go through 10 or 15 threads and seeing messages such as 'well this worked on this ROM but it doesn't on that ROM, why not?'
OK, I'll get off my soap box now...
I agree. Plenty of good variety in the ROMs we have.
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New ROMS based on what??? We have HTC Sense ROMs for Eclair 2.1 and Froyo 2.2 and AOSP CM 6.1. What else are you looking?
Personally I hate visiting the other device forums because everybody and their brother has 'cooked' up another ROM (mostly just new themes or added favorite apps). IMO who has time to stiff through all the various ROMs and threads? I find it much easier to review 3 different ROM threads and try to help others than to try and go through 10 or 15 threads and seeing messages such as 'well this worked on this ROM but it doesn't on that ROM, why not?'
OK, I'll get off my soap box now...
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Agreed. You cleared some things up.
Hopefully we'll get an official Aria Froyo update before Christmas...
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Agreed. You cleared some things up.
Hopefully we'll get an official Aria Froyo update before Christmas...
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Complete with AT&T bloatware no doubt
You can always go buy an EVO or Desire and take your pick from upteen different ROMs
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Complete with AT&T bloatware no doubt
You can always go buy an EVO or Desire and take your pick from upteen different ROMs
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There's nothing wrong with that actually. Sometimes it's a good thing because there are more people developing towards something greater. We have 1 or 2 guys doing all this work. There are some pretty badass ROMs for the more popular phones out there. If we had more people developing and cooking, we'd no doubt have something better than what we have even now.
Screw those giant phones.
But a little more ROMS would be cool, we just need more people with the Aria.
It's not a bad phone...hah.
What would you like to see in a new ROM?
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What would you like to see in a new ROM?
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Not too sure, as I have only had the Aria and used the two ROMS.
it's not a bad thing that we may only have 3 roms, but they are actually good quality roms, not just thrown together, and they are constantly being updated, but it would be kool if they had more help with them. Although i wish they had some people creating or porting themes, if i knew how i would, if anybody wanna help me learn, i wouldn't mind contributing by making themes for the aria, cause i kno i'm not the only one wishing they could have a theme to try out
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it's not a bad thing that we may only have 3 roms, but they are actually good quality roms, not just thrown together, and they are constantly being updated, but it would be kool if they had more help with them. Although i wish they had some people creating or porting themes, if i knew how i would, if anybody wanna help me learn, i wouldn't mind contributing by making themes for the aria, cause i kno i'm not the only one wishing they could have a theme to try out
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+1 on themes
I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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Hopefully it's before Christmas.
AT&T is just soooo slow
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I recently rooted and installed CM6.1.0RC2, and only thing I'd say it's missing is Flash Lite compared to Sense. Wish there was a way to get Flash Lite on CM, sadly not possible. Still loving CM though. Might test Sense again when there's an official Froyo update from AT&T and attn1 has taken out all the bloatware.
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Wait... why wait for the official ATT rom? It's going to be near identically the same as the Gratia ROM with 2.2 in it. You can go download it and flash it now.
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Wait... why wait for the official ATT rom? It's going to be near identically the same as the Gratia ROM with 2.2 in it. You can go download it and flash it now.
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Agreed. Waiting for the AT&T ROM to be released and then having someone remove the bloatware is pointless. What you will end up with is available now as Liberated FR07...
Sorry didn't mean the rom, meant the source kernel for attn1 to add and hopefully figure out why track wake isn't on plus all the other little things that's on his list that aren't in the current build.
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Sorry didn't mean the rom, meant the source kernel for attn1 to add and hopefully figure out why track wake isn't on plus all the other little things that's on his list that aren't in the current build.
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Um trackball wake works. So does wifi tethering and overclocking. We also have flash working.
Check this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9615379&postcount=128
Check the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&page=13
From what I understand it's using the froyo kernel from the legend now.
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That's right folks- get your supercharged Froyo sense goodness now with the newer kernel source released by HTC for the HTC legend. Everything works as far as I know, except for the built in wifi hotspot app for which we have replaced with the working Wireless Tether app thanks to the work of shakerhero. Final thanks go to attn1 and jznomoney for their hard work on the CM kernel, ladios for bundling up the kernel, trackpad wake fix, and wireless tether in a single, proper package.
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Just gotta flash it yourself. Been running it for a couple of days. Prior to that was using the CM6.1 kernel for OC and trackball wake.
kura808 looks like i've been missing some good reading
thanks for the links too.

Leaked 2.3 ROM FOR i9000 GALAXY S

http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/entries/show/6282349-android-2-3-2-leaks-for-galaxy-s-
This is a just leaked rom for the galaxy s. hopefully the devs can use it for the vibrant.
well even if not at least we know now that Samsung wasn't lying about March for the euro/Asian markets.
Nice, hopefully we will be able to use this to our advantage?
Also, couldn't we flash this since we now have the kernel that allow us to flash i900 ROMS? If we could just flash those files, then flash the kernel through Odin somehow it might work. Idk though, I'm no dev.
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well even if not at least we know now that Samsung wasn't lying about March for the euro/Asian markets.
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+1, Samsung might actually hold up to their promises this time around! Or, probably not.
more details - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974117
GINGERBREAD leaked
damb, this is so great, im thinking maybe tonight we might have a port for the vibrant, and i wonder if eugene and krylon know about this considering, it just today got leaked, a few hours ago.............. anyways, everyone post on this, lets get the hype going, we want this baby ported ASAP.. always thanks so much eugene and krylon, my brothers of galaxy android
So far from what i've read over there...
Looks like quadrant scores are not improved over 2.2 which is what i'm sure most people are hoping for. It also appears that the screen off animation is not present in the rom. It's also using Touchwiz 3.0 and not 4. Market is broken, and gingerbread keyboard also not included. Looks like an early beta build from what i've read.
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market is working, they have root access, and they are in the process of deodexing.
So far from what i've read over there...
damn double post. please delete
Sweet, hope we can get some cooked roms soon
The bad thing about it, it uses touchwiz 3.0, not stock.
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The bad thing about it, it uses touchwiz 3.0, not stock.
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True but we have CM7 for that. I was looking forward to TW 4.0. Cant wait to try out both.
Paging Dr B said:
True but we have CM7 for that. I was looking forward to TW 4.0. Cant wait to try out both.
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Im using cm7 right now. Cant wait to be finished.
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True but we have CM7 for that. I was looking forward to TW 4.0. Cant wait to try out both.
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did they do that much improvement on tw 4.0 to make it all exciting and everyone wanting it now.
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did they do that much improvement on tw 4.0 to make it all exciting and everyone wanting it now.
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There are videos on youtube if you want to see.
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Man how things have turned around for us Vibrant owners. Source... 2.2.1 roms/ports... unofficial CM7.. And now this. We can finally be proud Vibrant owners
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Nice, hopefully we will be able to use this to our advantage?
Also, couldn't we flash this since we now have the kernel that allow us to flash i900 ROMS? If we could just flash those files, then flash the kernel through Odin somehow it might work. Idk though, I'm no dev.
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The kernel that allows us to flash i9000 ROMs is only 2.2 and 2.2.1 compatible. I'm pretty sure someone would have to build a new kernel to let us flash that or port the ROM over.
The crowds are getting restless over there. They're in an uproar about "this is missing" and "that is missing". One of the complaints is about the gingerbread wallpaper being missing. But these guys forget that our 2.1 devices didn't come with stock 2.1 walls. They instead came with whatever wallpapers samsung gave us. Overall it's starting to sound more complete than the first froyo leaks that we used to have which is reassuring. Some of the guys say that the leak is stable and everything is working on their devices. One of the nice improvements they're reporting is functioning hardware acceleration.
No TV-off?! NOooOoO!
(not being sarcastic)
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The crowds are getting restless over there. They're in an uproar about "this is missing" and "that is missing". One of the complaints is about the gingerbread wallpaper being missing. But these guys forget that our 2.1 devices didn't come with stock 2.1 walls. They instead came with whatever wallpapers samsung gave us. Overall it's starting to sound more complete than the first froyo leaks that we used to have which is reassuring. Some of the guys say that the leak is stable and everything is working on their devices. One of the nice improvements they're reporting is functioning hardware acceleration.
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Funny to see their behavior over it when we are just sinking our teeth into 2.2.1. Maybe its a good thing though.. I myself am so pleased with the performance boost of 2.2.1 that I'm in no rush to flash again but of course I'm in the minority on that.
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Funny to see their behavior over it when we are just sinking our teeth into 2.2.1. Maybe its a good thing though.. I myself am so pleased with the performance boost of 2.2.1 that I'm in no rush to flash again but of course I'm in the minority on that.
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Na I'm with you on that, running Bionix 1.3 and it really is just as fast as CM7 was for. Really the only thing that gingerbread had over this ROM is that the applications list loaded faster. Plus on this I have themes

Flashaholic - Withdrawl...

So, with the slow down in rom releases and updates due to stable builds that require nothing more. I thought I'd share the rom that I will be using for more then a day or too...I'm thinking long term here. I've found that I really enjoy ACS roms, Jaimie, King and settling on Koni III. I really like the stability, speed and options for customizing. I've found Koni III provides everything that other ACS roms have, except I really like the coloring and icons. They are smooth and everything functions normally. So i'm kind of freaking out, because now I have to use my phone like a normal person am I alone?
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So, with the slow down in rom releases and updates due to stable builds that require nothing more. I thought I'd share the rom that I will be using for more then a day or too...I'm thinking long term here. I've found that I really enjoy ACS roms, Jaimie, King and settling on Koni III. I really like the stability, speed and options for customizing. I've found Koni III provides everything that other ACS roms have, except I really like the coloring and icons. They are smooth and everything functions normally. So i'm kind of freaking out, because now I have to use my phone like a normal person am I alone?
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Try making, or tweeking Icons (I prefer tweeking) on Photo Shop, or Gimp. I find that it helps with the downtime. This really does suck tho!
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So, with the slow down in rom releases and updates due to stable builds that require nothing more. I thought I'd share the rom that I will be using for more then a day or too...I'm thinking long term here. I've found that I really enjoy ACS roms, Jaimie, King and settling on Koni III. I really like the stability, speed and options for customizing. I've found Koni III provides everything that other ACS roms have, except I really like the coloring and icons. They are smooth and everything functions normally. So i'm kind of freaking out, because now I have to use my phone like a normal person am I alone?
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I'm not sure what everyone means by 'slowdown in rom releases'. I can't keep up with the new releases! Just off the top of my head, in the past few days, we have seen new releases of : salvage mod. Savaged Zen. MIuI. Dark cocoa. Elite III. Virus airbourne. Destroyer sequel. Evervolv nightlies. Cm nightlies. King cocoa. Unleashed R3. Kings gingerbread rom. And there are more. So, inform me how that equates to a shortage?! Haha, I literally can't keep up with trying g them all out!!!
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I'm not sure what everyone means by 'slowdown in rom releases'. I can't keep up with the new releases! Just off the top of my head, in the past few days, we have seen new releases of : salvage mod. Savaged Zen. MIuI. Dark cocoa. Elite III. Virus airbourne. Destroyer sequel. Evervolv nightlies. Cm nightlies. King cocoa. Unleashed R3. Kings gingerbread rom. And there are more. So, inform me how that equates to a shortage?! Haha, I literally can't keep up with trying g them all out!!!
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Agreed! Just in the past week we've had like 4 completely different aosp rom releases. All of which are phenomenal and have different things to offer... If your not into aosp, then yes, rom development has slown down a ton on sense, but thats ecpected when you have ideal developers who work there ass's off for perfection
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What's the big difference in ASOP? Sorry, new to this
Constantly reflashing a phone is annoying.
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What's the big difference in ASOP? Sorry, new to this
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There's even been recent sense releases, in the past couple days. There's konis elite III, dark cocoa, king cocoa, and Vaelpak 3.2 .
To answer your question, AOSP (android open source project) is straight android, no HTC sense, bloatware from sprint. Avg sense rom = 180-210mb. Avg AOSP rom = 60-80mb. AOSP doesn't have any of the HTC Widgets, and has different dialer, email, and contacts apps (among other differences throughout the rom) . I suggest trying it out if you're bored. You'll always just be a nandroid restore away from sense!
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AOSP
I love aosp, but i'm not ready for gingerbread and 6.1.2 just won't due! I agree flashing is annoying but addicitng, sad sad techie world I live in with my phone flashing and my MUD games....
I've got so many Nandroids backed up on my computer that to pass the time I just restore one every day or two. I'm running KES III right now and I'm happy with it...we'll see how long that lasts lol!
Just imagine the flurry of ridiculous this forum is gonna be when we get Gingerbread w/Sense this summer.
Myn, Mik, Koni, King, Vael and all our other sense devs are gonna be blowing the place up. I can't wait!!!
SInce I've had my Evo, I haven't gone more than 3 days withuut flashing something new. And I'e had them all, sense, Miui, The various CM Roms, but I've also settled on Koni III aqs my daily, until something new enough to catch my eye comes out.
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I've got so many Nandroids backed up on my computer that to pass the time I just restore one every day or two. I'm running KES III right now and I'm happy with it...we'll see how long that lasts lol!
Just imagine the flurry of ridiculous this forum is gonna be when we get Gingerbread w/Sense this summer.
Myn, Mik, Koni, King, Vael and all our other sense devs are gonna be blowing the place up. I can't wait!!!
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I hope you're right. I fear we may lose some devs to the Evo3D, or some other devices that are soon to be released. If the devs stay, so will I. If they go to Evo3d, I will follow. I love messing around with my phone, and need a strong dev community to fill my unsatiable flashing needs.
k2buckley said:
I hope you're right. I fear we may lose some devs to the Evo3D, or some other devices that are soon to be released. If the devs stay, so will I. If they go to Evo3d, I will follow. I love messing around with my phone, and need a strong dev community to fill my unsatiable flashing needs.
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That's why I ditched my T-Mobile phones (G1 and MyTouch Slide). I wanted something with a little more options. There wasn't anything better than CM over there although I think they have Desire Z roms in the G1 forums now.
I hope we get some devs to stick around. My decision to get an Evo 3d will be based on who goes and who stays. I'm a huge fan of Aamikam (MikFroYo) and Konikub so if they split there's probably a good bet I will too. Unless they still develop for the Evo. I know many devs who did dev work for the G1 long after they upgraded so it's not out of the ordinary.
My fingers are crossed. If there's no one who can make that 2.3 w/sense update super sexy like they did 2.2 w/sense then it might be time to split.
eeeeeeeeek said:
I love aosp, but i'm not ready for gingerbread and 6.1.2 just won't due! I agree flashing is annoying but addicitng, sad sad techie world I live in with my phone flashing and my MUD games....
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How come not ready for gingerbread? It's basically the same **** except for the cool lockscreen and the dope keyboard. Coming from being afraid of flashing ANY rom, I flashed Fresh in December, found it to be kinda buggy, then made the leap to CM7 right when RC1 came out, been HOOKED on it ever since. I'm on nightly 30 now and it's pretty dang stable. Make the leap, man
I've tried a couple of Gingerbread roms and ran into the usual Sprint VVM problem. While it's no big deal to call voicemail instead of using the visual, the V30 error that pops up every so often is a pain in the butt. I don't suppose there is a rom out there that won't give me that problem? I've tried the fix's listed in different threads and they (for me) work for a few hours and then I'm right back to the error messages. I don't use most of the Sense stuff, so it seems pointless to stay on a rom full of it. I've flashed at least 1 new rom a day trying to find something....
I havent flashed a rom in almost 2 months now, think ill go flash CM7 this evening though just to change things up a bit.
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I've tried a couple of Gingerbread roms and ran into the usual Sprint VVM problem. While it's no big deal to call voicemail instead of using the visual, the V30 error that pops up every so often is a pain in the butt. I don't suppose there is a rom out there that won't give me that problem? I've tried the fix's listed in different threads and they (for me) work for a few hours and then I'm right back to the error messages. I don't use most of the Sense stuff, so it seems pointless to stay on a rom full of it. I've flashed at least 1 new rom a day trying to find something....
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There is a fix for that... lol.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982966&highlight=voicemail
I have gotten tired of flashing..
i have the same exact problem, it seems as if there is always a good rom! Sense is good but battery consuming, CM is good but not flashy enough, everything else i flash is either a theme or an enhancement. It never ends!!!!
I've actually found one to stick with for a while. I haven't flashed in almost a whole day. Sense included and its not totally draining my battery. I'm on luv lol.
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igoth76 said:
I've actually found one to stick with for a while. I haven't flashed in almost a whole day. Sense included and its not totally draining my battery. I'm on luv lol.
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How did you manage to do that...is it your kernel, can you tell me which rom you are using because the only sense rom i like , myn warm two point two, is draining battery
The last Evo rom I was on was Koni's Elite Series III. Even my husband switched to it. I've changed to an Epic now, so my search starts over.
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AOSP Froyo?

I'm fairly new to the Shift scene, coming from an Evo. Often I read on these threads that the Sense ROMs give better battery than CM7, which I have found to be true..I just think we are improperly labeling them as "Sense ROMs" rather than "Froyo ROMs". When I had my Evo, Froyo also got much better battery than Gingerbread..because of this I wonder, has any Dev ever spoken of creating a plain jane AOSP Froyo ROM/Kernel? I imagine a Froyo rom would be much smoother, better battery, and less bugs..just as it was on the Evo.
PS. Can anyone point me in the direction for a "how-to" on ROM creating? If no developers are interested in a Froyo build, I'm willing to take my n00b self to school, lol
Check out the HTC Android Kitchen over in the general section it takes a lot to set it up but has support for evo shift and there is a lot of info about it.
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Sense is the UI overlay used on android so they were labled right, aosp is currently on 2.3.4 so no downgrades coming this way we are in the same boat as the evo was at launch it will take the devs time to get aosp gingerbread to its full potential but over all I'm really impressed with cm7 and very thankful for toastcfh!
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strapped365 said:
Sense is the UI overlay used on android so they were labled right, aosp is currently on 2.3.4 so no downgrades coming this way we are in the same boat as the evo was at launch it will take the devs time to get aosp gingerbread to its full potential but over all I'm really impressed with cm7 and very thankful for toastcfh!
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I hear what you're saying..I really didn't mean that they were really mislabeled as much as I was trying to make the case that when it comes to battery life I believe that Froyo is simply better than Gingerbread..poor choice of words I suppose..I'm not trying to take anything away from the fantastic development that goes on here in regards to CM7. Having just come from an Evo in the last 2 weeks I've tried every rom available in that section and always found myself going back to CM6 due to the super speed and fantastic battery life.
I understand that 2.3.4 (and beyond) will be the future. I'd just like a solid, stable, AOSP to run till gingerbread is fully there. I don't reasonably expect any developer to take this on, that's why I asked for advice on where to go. I'm reading up on kitchens now because I'm guessing I'm in this alone, lol..I may succeed, I'll probably fail..but at least I tried lol
Edit : thinking about it I'm sure there are others here that believe Gingerbread to be stable..I just haven't had much luck with it. Whether it be battery life, gps issues, force closes, etc..
I hear you on the 6.1 for the evo it was my favorite and if I knew how to do it I would I just don't have any clue on development so I'm stuck with cm7 which isn't bad just not perfect
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Working with the kitchen is pretty easy the coding is built in and it gives you a lot of options. Just work with it for a bit and try different things. Also I use different kernels from time to time to compare and mess with the clocking speeds setting up underclock when the screen is off to save battery. Mine right now overclocked to 1491 max min 364 normal and screen off 364 max to 364. Using evervolv and my battery last all day long med. To heavy use. I haven't had any problems with FC.
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Ive tried the kitchen via ubuntu virtual box. And ive been trying to port these new sensation roms that keep surfacing over to our shift. Havent had any luck but then again im very new to it. Tried with froyo base and fail, tryed with cm7 gingerbread base when it was 2.3.3 just like the sensation ports are. Still nothing. Wish i knew how to go further but im stuck in recovery trying to flash with an "Expects 4 args got 3 args. Or expects 3 got 2." Was different between the two bases. Anyone wanna help!?
kizzle4 said:
Ive tried the kitchen via ubuntu virtual box.
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Would that be the same as a live cd? That was my plan to go with this weekend.

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