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First time flasher, ROM dump possible before flash?

First of all I feel obliged to say I'm sorry for creating a new thread just for these basic questions.
I have read the FAQs and searched through the forum, and it's a bit messy hence this thread.
First of all I want to have the security to be able to revert to the stock ROM in case something goes wrong.
1) I do not find any SWE-rom in the collection thread though. My question is, can I (or someone help me to) dump my 1.43 SWE rom?
Edit: Just found this link by chance in duttys signature:http://rapidshare.com/users/258XUJ
And the swedish rom is included here. I wonder why this is not included in the sticky thread (..........)
2) If I flash to a custom ROM with SSPL, can I flash a stock ROM back with SSPL or do I really need to go through all the hassle with the gold card etc? Is there no easy way to flash an official ROM?
3) If I use HSPL to upgrade my bootloader, my warranty will be affected if I'm not mistaken. Could HTC (or whoever who performs service) deny my phone because I've used HSPL from here? If so, is there any way to revert to the state before using the HSPL, that is to say load the previous stock bootloader?
Once again, if you find this thread unnecessary please just ignore it and let it die or delete it.
I did some searching and still had these questions left, and I'm in the middle of studying for an upcoming exam while my HD2 is pissing me off since my last (and first) hard reset (the WiFi is really bugging out).
So I hope this will save me some time (and maybe other newbies)

I'm not sure if there's a way to actually back it up, but u should be able to get the official one off the htc support website. htc.com/support
using sspl is only for custom roms, but hard spl is now available. it let's you flash anything.g..custom or official.

Thx for the reply,
The swedish rom is not available there unfortunately. Hence my problem.
Regarding the HSPL, I have another question:
3) If I use HSPL to upgrade my bootloader, my warranty will be affected if I'm not mistaken. Could HTC (or whoever who performs service) deny my phone because I've used HSPL from here? If so, is there any way to revert to the state before using the HSPL, that is to say load the previous stock bootloader?

I'm not really sure about hard spl yet..I've not had a chance to read about it..or needed it.
i think you can revert to original spl by using goldcard method...and with this, your warranty still intact... but just read about it in sticky to be sure.

tshizzle said:
I'm not really sure about hard spl yet..I've not had a chance to read about it..or needed it.
i think you can revert to original spl by using goldcard method...and with this, your warranty still intact... but just read about it in sticky to be sure.
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You don't mean reverting SPL but flashing official ROMs right?
I did not read anything about the goldcard changing SPL?
Now that question 1 & 2 have been answered only question 3 is left.
A way to revert the SPL in case something happens and I have to send it for repair.

Only way to remove the HSPL is to flash an original SPL from SD card.
- Take any "RUU_signed.nbh" from a ship ROM and copy it to SD card.
- Rename it to "leoimg.nbh"
- Reset the device while pressing the volume down button.
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you're right...it is flashing original rom...but that removes hspl.
i think you should just read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433cuz i haven't...and don't think I'm qualified to give advice..

tshizzle said:
you're right...it is flashing original rom...but that removes hspl.
i think you should just read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433cuz i haven't...and don't think I'm qualified to give advice..
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I see, that one I had missed. So it should be realitvely easy to restore both the SPL (by following the steps you quoted, no gold card needed) and the stock rom if one has HSPL, as long as one has the stock ROM (which I'm downloading atm )
In that case this is great news, I'll be ready to start flashing in no time

I dont get it. I downloaded the stock ROM from the link provided above, it is an exe-file. Just like an official rom release from HTC.
Does this mean that I can install a custom ROM with SSPL and revert to the stock ROM simply by running the exe-file while the phone is in ActiveSync, without any need of using goldcard/HSPL?

umiss said:
I dont get it. I downloaded the stock ROM from the link provided above, it is an exe-file. Just like an official rom release from HTC.
Does this mean that I can install a custom ROM with SSPL and revert to the stock ROM simply by running the exe-file while the phone is in ActiveSync, without any need of using goldcard/HSPL?
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You need to extract the exe to get the nbh-file that you use to flash with SSPL. Just right klick and extract it, put nbh ans SSPL in a folder and run SSPL. Simple as that

Thanks alot for the help. I am ready to flash away

Confused....
Rather than creating a new thread I thought I'd post in here about a rom dump - and the troubles I'm having. (hope that's ok)
I'm trying to dump my official stock HD2 rom but something's not going right.....
I want to do this to have a backup before I start flashing custom roms and to also share it as I noticed it is not on the list in the sticky thread.
I'm using "dump my phone" which I found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509708
Everything seems to run ok, but when I run the final part I get the following errors:
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x520000, Part01.raw)
ERROR: ITReadDisk: outbuf==NULL
- The device is not ready for use
CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0xdd80000, Part02.raw)
ERROR: ITReadDisk: outbuf==NULL
- The device is not ready for use
I found another site with details on how to backup the stock rom:
http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=forum&ac=voir&ref=30&cat=282&id=22438&debut=0
(It's in french but I could understand most of it) but I continue to get the exact same error as before.
I've tried on 2 different computers (XP & vista) but no joy. Can anyone please provide some advice on what could be causing the problem?
I'd really love to be able to backup this rom.
Thanks.

aushtcuser said:
I've tried on 2 different computers (XP & vista) but no joy. Can anyone please provide some advice on what could be causing the problem?
I'd really love to be able to backup this rom.
Thanks.
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Hi, I successfully dumped my raw rom using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427507
process.
the thread reffers to the raphael, so the numbers that are generated during the process (the coloured ones) are different, but take it slow, its an easy step by step.
Once the raw files are dumped, you will, then need to figure out how to rebuild them, but i 'think' kitchens can be used for that.

Why don't you guys just download the officially released stock ROM? In my case there was none to download (or so I thought) hence I started the thread. Later on I found link to the official ROM so I started flashing immediately =P

umiss said:
Why don't you guys just download the officially released stock ROM? In my case there was none to download (or so I thought) hence I started the thread. Later on I found link to the official ROM so I started flashing immediately =P
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hehe, and thats why i never got around to figuring out the converting of teh raw dumps, I found my stock rom.

what if you need a stock rom that hasnt been uploaded to the website??
I'm still interested personally in converting the raw dump to a .nbh installable via hspl.

chris_ah1 said:
what if you need a stock rom that hasnt been uploaded to the website??
I'm still interested personally in converting the raw dump to a .nbh installable via hspl.
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Go have a read of the thread i linked above, as i said, I dumped the raw files easy enough, and the rest of the process of reconstructing should be the same, although of course you will have to use leo source files and what not.

samsamuel said:
Hi, I successfully dumped my raw rom using this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427507
process.
the thread reffers to the raphael, so the numbers that are generated during the process (the coloured ones) are different, but take it slow, its an easy step by step.
Once the raw files are dumped, you will, then need to figure out how to rebuild them, but i 'think' kitchens can be used for that.
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Thanks for the help......the methods in that thread are very similar to the ones I've already tried. I have everything copied correctly to my device, found my address codes, but whenever I run this line:
“pdocread -w -d DSK1: -b 0x800 -p Part00 0 0x31f000 Part00.raw”
I get the same error as I mentioned previously - the device is not ready.
I've tried enabling/disabling faster activesync connection but still the error occurs.
umiss said:
Why don't you guys just download the officially released stock ROM? In my case there was none to download (or so I thought) hence I started the thread. Later on I found link to the official ROM so I started flashing immediately =P
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If I could find this exact version I would've done that by now, but I can't find it anywhere ROM version - 1.48.421.2 WWE

Hmm, three things to check,
1, the number 0x31f000 are you sure thats the right one, give as teh output of the "procread.exe -l" command? (Just checking you arent just copy/pasting teh thread commands)
2, are you using am external usb slot? i've found hspl doesn't instal over my usb slot in eth case of my machine, but does when i plug it into one of the slots directly on the motherboard, , maybe this is teh same?
3, is itsutils.dll running? is there a popup on your mobile with 'allow this program?' or something similar?

1 - I just copied/pasted what was in the thread, but I just ran the pdocread.exe again and it is the same address.
2 - I'm using a laptop but I've never had any connection issues with it previously.
3 - Not sure if that process is running. Nothing appears on the phone to confirm it.
Here's a really stupid question but am I meant to be doing this after I install HSPL? I haven't done that yet as I thought I could backup the rom beforehand.....

aushtcuser said:
1 - I just copied/pasted what was in the thread, but I just ran the pdocread.exe again and it is the same address.
2 - I'm using a laptop but I've never had any connection issues with it previously.
3 - Not sure if that process is running. Nothing appears on the phone to confirm it.
Here's a really stupid question but am I meant to be doing this after I install HSPL? I haven't done that yet as I thought I could backup the rom beforehand.....
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No, no need for hspl here.
OK, you changed the HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies setting, you soft reset. (Power propperly off and back on), you copied over itsutils.dll and moved it to /windows.
Next step is opening command prompt, did you open it as administrator?
oh wait, in your command
“pdocread -w -d DSK1: -b 0x800 -p Part00 0 0x31f000 Part00.raw”
are you sure it is DSK1:?
Cos im failry sure mine came out at DSK7 or something, pretty sure it wasn't 1...

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LEOIMG.nbh/ruu_signed.nbh/[Randomname.nbh] - These are all the actual roms, the things you need to flash, usually they are called one of the first two names, but some rom chefs give their own names to the roms, but you can always distiguish which file you need as it will always be a "nbh" file and will always be the largest file in the archive/folder
SPL - Secondary Program Loader: Loads the actual OS. (The SPL is what lets you flash the different aspects of your device, however the stock SPL is 'CID Locked' which means only official releases from HTC can be installed.
HSPL - A 'custom' SPL created by the dark forces team (bepe and cotulla), this is CID Unlocked and it lets you install custom roms and flash any radio. The reason it is called 'Hard' is because it stays on your device after a flash, unlike 'Soft' SPL which is removed after a flash.
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1. How To Install HardSPL
[LINK][Estimated Time:7 Minutes]
[NOTE: PLEASE GO INTO YOUR BOOTLOADER BEFORE INSTALLING HSPL AND MAKE SURE YOUR CURRENT SPL IS 1.42.0000, IF IT IS NOT, THE INSTILLATION WILL FAIL!]
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2. How To Flash a Custom Rom Via Active Sync (USB)
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3. How To Flash a Custom Rom Via Micro SD Card
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6. How To Uninstall HardSPL (Install a Stock SPL)
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7. How To Flash(Install) A Custom Splash Screen (Thanks jeckyll for the first splash screen and teaching me how to do it)
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Making any changes to your phone using HSPL WILL void your warranty, and even if you remove HSPL and, for example, you have a custom rom still on your phone, your warranty will be void. However you can revert anything you do with HSPL thus getting back your warranty, I will make sure each method is on this thread, just make sure to revert everything changed with HSPL before you remove it.
Can I flash backwards? as in - From 1.61 to 1.48. Yes you can, you can flash any rom to any other rom with HSPL (thanks mskip for filling me in )
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Hard resetting after a flash is usually recomended, it will optimize the rom
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well done mate this thread will help alot of plp,nice one

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Hi,
Nice work, but i dont agree with this video.
you DO NOT have to format the SD card every time you flash.
you just copy it over and and start the flash!
Nice vids though, just abit misleading! and to be honest takes a long time, I have 4Gb of data on an 8Gb card, for me to copy it off, format, flash and copy it back would take the best part of 90 mins!!
SS

SiliconSquirrel said:
Hi,
Nice work, but i dont agree with this video.
you DO NOT have to format the SD card every time you flash.
you just copy it over and and start the flash!
Nice vids though, just abit misleading! and to be honest takes a long time, I have 4Gb of data on an 8Gb card, for me to copy it off, format, flash and copy it back would take the best part of 90 mins!!
SS
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Huh.. It takes me with my 16gb one about 5 seconds to quick format once Ive dragged things off, Ive heard it is a safe bet so Im gonna leave it like that unless loads moer people feel the same way, Thanks though

To the OP,
Well done for putting these videos up. Should help a few people to better visualise what they need to do.
@ Silicon Squirrel,
You may be right re your point on formatting but I see it as good practice as it forces people to double check that the card is formatted in FAT 32 (a common problem).
WB

wacky.banana said:
To the OP,
Well done for putting these videos up. Should help a few people to better visualise what they need to do.
@ Silicon Squirrel,
You may be right re your point on formatting but I see it as good practice as it forces people to double check that the card is formatted in FAT 32 (a common problem).
WB
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Thanks And yeah thats a good point

wacky.banana said:
@ Silicon Squirrel,
You may be right re your point on formatting but I see it as good practice as it forces people to double check that the card is formatted in FAT 32 (a common problem).
WB
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Ok, but once you have done in once you dont need to do it again!! the card doesnt just randomly change file system while in use!!
so yeah i agree format it ONCE the first time you do it, other than that it is a waste of time!
I have never in 15 years of using computers and flash memory EVER heard of that!
SS

[★] said:
Huh.. It takes me with my 16gb one about 5 seconds to quick format once Ive dragged things off, Ive heard it is a safe bet so Im gonna leave it like that unless loads moer people feel the same way, Thanks though
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Dont get me wrong, it was a constructive criticism.
maybe you could note the fact that they only need to do it once, the first time, to make sure the file system is FAT32. then they would save much time in the future!
Also i wasnt saying the format would be long, i was meaning the copying on and off that is a ball ache!!
SS

SiliconSquirrel said:
Dont get me wrong, it was a constructive criticism.
maybe you could note the fact that they only need to do it once, the first time, to make sure the file system is FAT32. then they would save much time in the future!
Also i wasnt saying the format would be long, i was meaning the copying on and off that is a ball ache!!
SS
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thats true, it IS a ball ache xD

Good vids and just to echo an above post that seeing it being done makes it so very simple and thanks very much, it certainly helps new people like myself get to grips quickly.
I'd just add in a couple of vids you might want to add a bubble of 'connect via active sync'
About the format thing, meh!.. you get a 2gig card with the phone which is useless really except for rom stuff and the like. I wouldn't bother moving stuff around, just swap the card over.
cheers!
R.

humungousfungusamongus said:
Good vids and just to echo an above post that seeing it being done makes it so very simple and thanks very much, it certainly helps new people like myself get to grips quickly.
I'd just add in a couple of vids you might want to add a bubble of 'connect via active sync'
About the format thing, meh!.. you get a 2gig card with the phone which is useless really except for rom stuff and the like. I wouldn't bother moving stuff around, just swap the card over.
cheers!
R.
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Ok I'll get on that soon,
And yeah, I just use the 2gb one that comes with it too

Very helpful and clear videos

Thanks alot you just helped a noob here thanks

I think that this thread deserves a sticky.

Yep i vote for sticky aswell. admins please sticky this extremely helpful thread

gsingh7 said:
Yep i vote for sticky aswell. admins please sticky this extremely helpful thread
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Fatherboard said:
I think that this thread deserves a sticky.
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Thanks
Glad it helped
Most of the thanks should go to mysticgenius and mskip for teaching me though

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Most of the thanks should go to mysticgenius and mskip for teaching me though
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Whoop +1 for MG!!
although, you put the work in on this thread, and the vids are cool so you deserve credit too!!
Peace bro
SS

Thanks man

Willing to pay for goldcard sd

i have been trying for several months now with nearly a hundred micro-sd cards on a dozen computers and i cannot seem to do it. i cannot take it anymore. i am offering either a trade(one of my sdcards for one that has already been used as a goldcard and is currently a goldcard) if you have created a goldcard and are willing to ship it to me in exchange for an 8GBclass 2(samsung or sandisk) or a 4GB class 4(PNY) or a 2GB kingston then please let me know.
or i can paypal you some money and you can ship me a pre-made goldcard.
i have a mT3G with a perfected SPL on a 32b board(thought i was lucky when i saw 32b pop up)

It might help if you explain where you are having problems?

i got the CID fine, i got the goldcard.img fine, the problem is when i use hxd to edit the card. it allows me to paste write the hex to the first 17 blocks but when i remove card from computer and put it back in then it has to be formatted. i know it has to be FAT32 so i'm not sure what i am doing wrong.
ps i am running hxd as administrator, currently on a vista x32 machine

And are you selecting the physical or logical tab? You should be copying the img data to the physical tab of your removable media.

Try the Goldcard tool:
(replace hxxp with http to get the working link)
hxxp://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/

Thanks! I been tring for a week to make one and that worked! Cheers

Glad I could help.

tubaking182 said:
i got the CID fine, i got the goldcard.img fine, the problem is when i use hxd to edit the card. it allows me to paste write the hex to the first 17 blocks but when i remove card from computer and put it back in then it has to be formatted. i know it has to be FAT32 so i'm not sure what i am doing wrong.
ps i am running hxd as administrator, currently on a vista x32 machine
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Also, make sure you format the card in the phone. I purchased a 2gb Kingston from comp usa and that is the only one I ever had to use. Other sd cards are hit and miss.

i have formatted from the phone, as well as from the computer. i will have to try out this other goldcard app, if it works then awesome and i can save some money(even though i have a bunch of extra sd cards now)

so i got home and tried the app on my vista 32-bit machine, with the app i can mount the sdcard after it claims to have made a goldcard, but when i try to flash the file from the amon_ra thread(fix perfected SPL) it can't seem to find the SAPPIMG.zip file in the bootloader. not sure at this point what i am doing wrong, i have the 1.33.0007 SPL which i have seen is more difficult but people have gotten it to work

You have to rename the sappimg.zip to sappimg.apk

It's no longer necessary to use the goldcard method to root an original (32b) mytouch
I would post a link to new instructions but I'm apparently not worthy of posting external links yet, so search google for "How To: Root the HTC MyTouch 3G | TheUnlockr" (in quotes) it should come up with an article from 04-26-2010
basically what you do is downgrade to stock android 1.5, then use flashrec to exploit a bug in 1.5 that lets you install a custom recovery (like amon-ra's recovery) and then installed a rooted rom from there
Just so you know, this doesn't replace the perfected SPL, so you will have to do that eventually if you want to be able to flash and boot images using the fastboot SDK tool (not necessary for rooting the phone, but nice to have)

tubaking182 said:
so i got home and tried the app on my vista 32-bit machine, with the app i can mount the sdcard after it claims to have made a goldcard, but when i try to flash the file from the amon_ra thread(fix perfected SPL) it can't seem to find the SAPPIMG.zip file in the bootloader. not sure at this point what i am doing wrong, i have the 1.33.0007 SPL which i have seen is more difficult but people have gotten it to work
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It is very important to format the sd card as fat32 (and not the default fat), otherwise the bootloader will not be able to pick up any files (goldcard or not).

stu-k said:
You have to rename the sappimg.zip to sappimg.apk
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that seems wrong, i need to change the SPL and an apk is not going to do that for me(without root)
adavis159 said:
It's no longer necessary to use the goldcard method to root an original (32b) mytouch
I would post a link to new instructions but I'm apparently not worthy of posting external links yet, so search google for "How To: Root the HTC MyTouch 3G | TheUnlockr" (in quotes) it should come up with an article from 04-26-2010
basically what you do is downgrade to stock android 1.5, then use flashrec to exploit a bug in 1.5 that lets you install a custom recovery (like amon-ra's recovery) and then installed a rooted rom from there
Just so you know, this doesn't replace the perfected SPL, so you will have to do that eventually if you want to be able to flash and boot images using the fastboot SDK tool (not necessary for rooting the phone, but nice to have)
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you can't downgrade until you get a non-perfected SPL on your phone(1.33.0007 is a troublesome one)
Prowler_gr said:
It is very important to format the sd card as fat32 (and not the default fat), otherwise the bootloader will not be able to pick up any files (goldcard or not).
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i know i am formatting as FAT32 this is standard with all phones we hack around here. tried using the phone and the computer to format as FAT32 and still no go

tubaking182 said:
you can't downgrade until you get a non-perfected SPL on your phone(1.33.0007 is a troublesome one)
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there must be some t-mobile mytouches that shipped with non-perfected SPLs then, because that guide worked for me. what is the point of a rooting guide that required the phone to already be rooted?
have you actually tried downgrading to 1.5, or are you just assuming it won't work?

I don't assume anything on the phones, I have deffinately tried several times. Yes some shipped with non-perfected SPLs and some shipped with perfected SPLs, luck of the draw

tubaking182 said:
that seems wrong, i need to change the SPL and an apk is not going to do that for me(without root)
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Sorry your right, I just checked the goldcard i made and i did leave it sappIMG.zip. I changed so many things to try and get it to work!
But I had no probs with that goldcard maker program.

tubaking182 said:
i got the CID fine, i got the goldcard.img fine, the problem is when i use hxd to edit the card. it allows me to paste write the hex to the first 17 blocks but when i remove card from computer and put it back in then it has to be formatted. i know it has to be FAT32 so i'm not sure what i am doing wrong.
ps i am running hxd as administrator, currently on a vista x32 machine
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I ran into this problem before too. I could not create a goldcard with vista 32bit at all. I tried like 6 different cards all different sizes and it wouldn't work. I used Run as administrator mode, compatibility mode, etc. It would not work.
Yet I tried it on a Windows XP sp2 machine with a 2gb Toshiba card and it work perfectly the first time. Can't explain it.

What exactly is a goldcard, I am unfamiliar with this and would like to know. Can someone please explain to me.

In all the directions i read it said to use the reverse tool and put both your cid and the reverse cid in the goldcard. When i went to the site for the free gold card their was only one line to put your cid in. I thought that the goldcard machine would reverse it for me. I was wrong. you still need to use the reverse cid tool.

root for Desire Z 1.72 with non standard CID's

Hi @all,
as my thread was closed but i still want to thank you and share my experiences, i'll create this new thread.
It belongs to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926835 but maybe also can help other guys to get root on theire updated unrooted phones.
this weekend i did the work and finaly i can say:
on my phone I AM root!!!
Just to thank you and maybe help some less experienced people here, i will give you a small overview and some hints for changes to be done for the tutorials to work with the desire z.
so thanks for your help, it worked like a charm.
For the backup i used myBackup as it doesnt require root for backing up and it restored my data as i wished. So myBackup is the product i can recomment. It is available as 30days-demo and so is enough for the process of down- and reupgrading.
Another thing to remind in the following steps is: at any time usb-debugging works with the htc-sync-mode, too. so use this mode, as usb-mode at any time, as in another case (harddisk-mode) the phone cant access the sdcard anymore.
After the backup i removed the card from the phone and worked on with a blank one.
The following both tutorials i used:
Goldcard: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572683&highlight=gold+card
Down-Reupgrade: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting
You may also use this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503
This one describes all the goldcard und down/upgrade-stuff explicitly for the desire z, but it looks a bit more hacky and seems to be good for people already experienced with hex-editors and rooting, also it doesnt mention, that the first 2 chars of the cardcode neet to be converted to "00", thats why i recommended the other tutorials.
I formated it to fat32 and put it into the phone, this step wasnt mentioned in the tutorial, so i tell it to all who dont know.
Then i read the card-ID with adb. Here is another problem with the tutorial. The DesireZ had no mmc1 with valid data, for the desire z you have to read the cid from mmc2!!! (just change the path from the tutorial) (so: adb shell cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc2/mmc2:*/cid)
After that remove the card from the phone and reinster into the cardreader and do the patching with the image and the hexeditor.
Then youre done with the first tutorial (in step 18) and can move on with the cyanogen one (as it seems more trustful )
So now reinsert into the phone and copy the firmwareimage and then "update" to the older version (was very nervouse while that, but succeeded finaly )
If you get an Error in "/data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.33.405.5" (i got one like "unable to backup") you have not inserted the sdcard or used the filetransfermode, so the card is not mounted into the phones filesystem.
If so, switch to htc-sync-mode and try the command again.
When in the firmwareupgrade-mode after the reboot, you can navigate with vol-up and vol-down and enter with the powerkey.
After permroot install the rom of your chioce, best one with allready permroot done, that saves work
i decided for the virtuous as it has sense, any other/better rom someone can recomment???
When done that, too, at first reinsert the original sdcard with your backup on and restore that backup, as it overwrites existing data, it would be best to avoid any sms or calls to arrive before you restored the data, as those calls and messages will be lost.
After that you can set up all things you want and finaly you are done with a new 1.72 rooted and unbranded phone.
Thanks all for your help especially to guhl for giving me those links and taking the fear from me of bricking my phone....
Yours TK

tk-germany said:
The following both tutorials i used:
Goldcard: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572683&highlight=gold+card
Down-Reupgrade: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting
I formated it to fat32 and put it into the phone, this step wasnt mentioned in the tutorial, so i tell it to all who dont know.
Then i read the card-ID with adb. Here is another problem with the tutorial. The DesireZ had no mmc1 with valid data, for the desire z you have to read the cid from mmc2!!! (just change the path from the tutorial) (so: adb shell cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc2/mmc2:*/cid)
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There's a Vision-specific Gold card guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503&highlight=debrand , which does uses mmc2, you might want to link that one up instead ?

steviewevie said:
There's a Vision-specific Gold card guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832503&highlight=debrand , which does uses mmc2, you might want to link that one up instead ?
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Done that, but also told in the first post, why i used the other ones
btw: why you still use version 1.34? Better than 1.7?
any good desire z roms with sense anyone can recommend?

tk-germany said:
btw: why you still use version 1.34? Better than 1.7?
any good desire z roms with sense anyone can recommend?
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I only use 1.34 because I haven't got round to trying anything else yet. But it works well enough not for me to want to get away from it as soon as possible. Virtuous is a popular Sense-based ROM, and I may well give that a try (it's based on 1.72 as well).

I use the 1.72 virtuous and feel good with it, as i have the impression that it is a bit smoother and the batteryusage seems to be a bit improved, but dunno if thats realy cuz of the new rom.
Only disadvantage, max volume doesnt seem to be bettered up, hope that gets solved soon
hoped to hear of any other rom with that solved and maybe packed with some nice gimmicks
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Assalam aleikum,
Hi Iam using a german vodaphone 1.72 rom and want to downgrade to get permaroot and so on for a brother,
I Tried to get the downgrade working with this scripture but it dont works i ve done all the way down from goldcart with hexediting stuff and so on but when i reach the point to flash the 1.3 rom on hboot i get everytime a wrong cid error message and he wont install
is there a way to change the CID? for vodafone phones?

hi
i've been trying to downgrade my girlfriends new desire z (bought in a german store). but everytime i tried to flash the PC10IMG.zip in the bootloader via fastboot, it startet searching for it, found it, checked it and then brought up an error "incorrect CID", which i didn't quite understood. i checked the infocid and it's HTC__102, so i did not have to do the goldcard stuff. but i still did not get it working. solution was: not every PC10IMG.zip you can find in the various threads about downgrading the desire z seems to work, for me only the one found in the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261 worked.
just wanted to let you know, in case anyone is searching for a solution for this problem

Cant boot anymore

Hi folks, i'm looking for 2 days a way to solve my DHD problem:
It can't boot anymore. It pop up the "htc quietly brilliant" screen, play the boot sound and, start this step again, and again, and again...
So I'm googling a LOT about how to solve this, if exist a way to restore the original rom. Because i'm thinking that was the problem, my original rom is gone.
That happens when i try to install 3 softwares from appbrain, my device got freeze and i hit the power button to reset. So, after that, my device is gone.
So i came here, to ask you folks: There is a way to recover the original rom ? Without send to warranty (because it spend something like 1 month here).
I'm not a mobile hacker or something, i'm just trying to be happy with my device.
Thanks a lot and sorry for my poor english!!

Perhaps try booting to the bootloader, by holding Power + Volume down button. From there, you should be able to do a factory reset, which may or may not fix your problem. Worth a shot at least, imo

And if it does not work when you do a factory reset, you can use a rom.zip from HTC RUU to restore your phone.
Now the important thing is to know which HTC rom you are running. If it is unbranded, 1.72.405.3 is a sure shot. Download the RUU.exe from Stock roms thread in android development subforum, and run it. When the window pops up, open run prompt, and type: "%TEMP%". Then search for rom.zip, copy it to your desktop, rename it to PD98IMG.zip and put it to your SD card (I hope that you have a card reader). Then just reboot to bootloader as tmh described, and watch the magic happen
Then if your phone is branded, you can still use the same technique to make PD98IMG.zip, but you have to get the RUU that matches your branding. There are lots of RUUs in android development subforum, just search.

Hi guys,
thanks a lot for quik reply!
I perform the procedure indicated by tmh, but without lucky ;\
I think it is unbranded. I buy it at Portugal and i'm using at Brazil right now.
I'll perform your tip jkoljo.
I'll post a repply to let people know if it works or not.
Thanks a lot!!

Hope the advice the last guy gave helps , a factory re set may work fine and fix the issue. Iv had 3 dhd since the day of release , the second one I had wouldn't switch on, had it replaced by Vodafone . Not sure weather or not they will give you a new one . Hope u get it fixed
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

I'm not sure if i got cover from warranty.
Right now, my "PROOF OF PURCHASE" is at europe, and i'm at america, so i must get this work again by myself, or pay (some expensive value, i think) for htc support.
I found those ROM version:
RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R2_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF_release_163262_signed.exe 04-Jan-2011 12:41 285M Windows executable file
RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_release_161342_signed.exe
but i'm not sure about "WWE". What it means?

dogasantos said:
I'm not sure if i got cover from warranty.
Right now, my "PROOF OF PURCHASE" is at europe, and i'm at america, so i must get this work again by myself, or pay (some expensive value, i think) for htc support.
I found those ROM version:
RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R2_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF_release_163262_signed.exe 04-Jan-2011 12:41 285M Windows executable file
RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_release_161342_signed.exe
but i'm not sure about "WWE". What it means?
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the different is just the radio version. just try flash one of them and see if that work.

WWE means World Wide English, which is an international release
Any one of those RUUs you linked is ok, as hedayat7 already said.

WWE is World wide English...so both are english Roms...try the RUU flash, it should work like a dream....

jkoljo said:
Download the RUU.exe from Stock roms thread in android development subforum, and run it.
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Sorry ask for your help again, but at Official thread (thread number 841207) for DHD files, both 1.72.405.3 links are broken.
So i search for another thread, and found another one, but when i run the .exe, it ask for a USB connection to device, so it appears wrong.
Could you gimme a hand to find the correct file?
PS: I can help with a web hosting to all correct files.

You probably found the correct RUU, now proceed to %TEMP% and copy rom.zip to desktop.
You can find RUUs here: http://xdafil.es/index.php?path=DesireHD/RUU/
I am not completely sure if those zip files are actual rom.zips, you can check that. Open up the zip, and if it has a long list of hboot, system, android-info.txt etc, then it is rom.zip and you can just go ahead and rename it to PD98IMG.zip.

jkoljo said:
You probably found the correct RUU, now proceed to %TEMP% and copy rom.zip to desktop.
You can find RUUs here: ...
I am not completely sure if those zip files are actual rom.zips, you can check that. Open up the zip, and if it has a long list of hboot, system, android-info.txt etc, then it is rom.zip and you can just go ahead and rename it to PD98IMG.zip.
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But i did that.
The "1.72.405.3" files at this URL are broken (Or need password to access it, because "You don't have permission to access" message pop up).
When i run the RRU i got two screens, first i must accept a advice, the second one ask if I have a USB connection to my device. Even when i proceed to next step, i got no .zip file on my %TEMP%.
Im lost because of that lol
UPDATE: OK I FOUND IT! haha ty

Thanks a lot my friends,
but it doesn't work.
I perform the process for 2 different roms, and it doesn't work.
Still can't boot.
I'll sent for warranty and wait a loooong time..
But thanks a lot for help me with this!!

Ok, then there is something wrong in the device itself. You have to send it to a service center.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

Hi again,
i keep a little hope that i can restore my phone, so i found a possible solution:
OTA update.
At "showthread.php?t=667728&page=2", i found a guy with the same problem i think, here is the quote:
Kinma said:
I had the same problem last week.
I suspected it had to do with the EXT3 partition.
Solved it by first flashing the OTA 2.2 ROM (for rooted users) as this does not use the EXT3. Then used Rom manager to recreate the EXT3.
Now all ROMs that use the EXT3 run fine!
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(thanks Kinma for the feedback)
So, i start a search for OTA update file here, and found at "showthread.php?t=885996".
But when i choose "Apply sdcard:update.zip", i got INVALID OPERATION.
Someone have a tip for me about this?
Thanks (its very sad, but i must keep hope).

dogasantos said:
(thanks Kinma for the feedback)
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You are welcome.
What happened was that after a reboot of the phone the phone started rebooting in the boot sequence, i.e. a boot loop.
I tried a lot of things and nothing worked.
Finally I suspected that the problem might be with the SD card. I had a backup, so I had no problem doing a factory reset.
Then I booted the phone without the SD card.
The phone booted fine.
That way I was certain that the problem was with the SD card.
I had 2 partitions on the SD card, an EXT3 part and the rest was a normal Fat part.
I could still read the card, so I made a backup of all the data on the card.
Then I reformatted the card using windows.
The phone booted fine with an empty, reformatted, SD card.
Since I use Apps 2 SD, I had to recreate the EXT3 partition.
If your rom does not use this, you do not have to do this.
After recreating the EXT partition, put back all files that I want on my SD card.
My advice would be to do a factory reset and after that boot the phone without the SD card.
If the phone boots, you know the problem is with the card.
Hope that helps; good luck!

dogasantos said:
Sorry ask for your help again, but at Official thread (thread number 841207) for DHD files, both 1.72.405.3 links are broken.
So i search for another thread, and found another one, but when i run the .exe, it ask for a USB connection to device, so it appears wrong.
Could you gimme a hand to find the correct file?
PS: I can help with a web hosting to all correct files.
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Here, use this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-899564.html
From "football" post copy and paste his link, the download would start immediately..

Hi folks,
boot without the SD card, doesn't work =(
I'm really without luck with this.
I do:
- Factory reset
- Clear cache and userdata
- Boot without SD or/and SIM cards
- Reflash RUU WWE 1.72.405.3 Radio 26.04.02.17_M2
- Reflash RRU WWE 1.72.405.3 Radio 26.04.02.17_M2 SF
- erase all SD
One show was use OTA update.zip, but at this step i got "invalid operation"
SO, nothing works!
Well, it appears a lost battle =\
thanks folks for all help.

Yeah, there must be something wrong in your device itself, for example a motherboard fault. Send it back to HTC.

yukinok25 said:
Here, use this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-899564.html
From "football" post copy and paste his link, the download would start immediately..
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Hi,
I found the information extremely useful. Big Thanks
GRuti