[CLOSED/G2] My Hinges are not loose (video) - G2 and Desire Z General

I do a demonstration showing that my hinges are strong: G2 Hinge Test
Also feel free to check out my G2 Impressions: G2 Impressions

How long have you used the phone? I'm afraid the hinge may become loose with time.

Arcadia310, when did you receive your phone?

Thank you. I posted a reply. But yeah, his is rock solid unlike mine. If I turn mine upside down or at a slightly inclined angle it just flops open.

I don't know about you guys but I think the phones are supposed to be loose. You you guys see how hard it is to hold the phone only on the top portion? Do you really hold it that way naturally? And about the people texting while laying down, your index finger don't naurally hold the top portion of the phone?
My hinges are loose, but that's only if I really try hard to prove it. But if I hold it naturally, I have no problems.

CaliLove310 said:
Arcadia310, when did you receive your phone?
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I bought it two days ago on Saturday the 2nd when T-Mobile started selling them in stores.

cdreamworld said:
I don't know about you guys but I think the phones are supposed to be loose. You you guys see how hard it is to hold the phone only on the top portion? Do you really hold it that way naturally? And about the people texting while laying down, your index finger don't naurally hold the top portion of the phone?
My hinges are loose, but that's only if I really try hard to prove it. But if I hold it naturally, I have no problems.
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I'm sorry but holding my phone upside down for half a second or having it like this "/" while im in bed typing/reading what have you it should NOT fall open I don't care how much you try to tell me it should. Look at what his does and mine does the complete polar opposite of that and just lulls open.

Anyone know what tmobile stand is on the hinges?

Arcadia310 said:
I do a demonstration showing that my hinges are strong: G2 Hinge Test
Also feel free to check out my G2 Impressions: G2 Impressions
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I second that, my phone also doesnt have the loose hinge!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NScoVqYjMgE

I wish mine was like that .... this has been a bad experience for me.

Mine is definitely defective... radio shack had a dummy unit.. I picked it up, flipped the keyboard out... turned it upside down and held it by the keyboard, and it didn't even budge until I shook it. I'm about to call T-Mobile for an exchange.

If your hinge is very loose I highly recommend exchanging it for a stronger one.

Hopefully T-Mobile doesn't give me any crap.

now I get to wait with a ****ty loaner flip phone while the g2 I bought via t-mobile phone support is shipped back to t-mobile and another g2 is shipped to me.... awesome!
I was more than psyched for this phone and this has really put a damper on things.
Edit: By the way Blackprince..., maybe you'd be singing a different tune if you're brand new phone couldn't even hold itself open. The loose hinge video may appear exaggerated, but thats exactly how mine behaves.

Mine is loose but it doesn't affect me much, just like arcadia said my index fingers holds the screen up but It does tire my fingers. I bought it on sunday at radioshack and at first the screen wasnt as loose as it is now.
I'm on the phone now with tmo adding insurance on my phone then getting a replacement soon.

weber09 said:
now I get to wait with a ****ty loaner flip phone while the g2 I bought via t-mobile phone support is shipped back to t-mobile and another g2 is shipped to me.... awesome!
I was more than psyched for this phone and this has really put a damper on things.
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I was able to get customer service to send me back a new phone to my other line which was the one I wanted initially anyways, but the first rep I spoke to had told me that I couldn't get it without paying the off contract price.
Not only that, but he gave me the $252 price for the phone instead of the 300 something I was going to have to pay for it prior and switched my data plan to the 19.99 one, waived the $18 upgrade fee ONTOP OF shipping me out my new phone express shipping, too. I totally spoke with his supervisor and said he was awesome. I don't even have to ship this new one off until I get the new one in.
So my experience has actually been pretty good all around save for a defective unit. I'd keep *****ing till you get someone who doesn't suck...

Thank you, this is good to know. The lady I spoke with "Sure" there was no other way. If I can get something like this worked out to replace the one I've got, i'll be a lot happier.

I did the same tests as you and if i hold the phone upside down it opens and swings but you know what? Why the hell would i hold the phone like that in a day to day use I have no problem with the screen at all because when you hold the phone normal it works like ti should and your right people need to grow up and stop crying over something that works.
My phone has never open or closed on its own and i had the phone since 9/30

xile6 said:
I did the same tests as you and if i hold the phone upside down it opens and swings but you know what? Why the hell would i hold the phone like that in a day to day use I have no problem with the screen at all because when you hold the phone normal it works like ti should and your right people need to grow up and stop crying over something that works.
My phone has never open or closed on its own and i had the phone since 9/30
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These type of comments arent needed. Not all of us use our device the same way. Although I do have the hinge problem I'm not crying about it. Sure the phone works GREAT. ITs an awesome device but people payed for it and if they aren't satisfied then it is for a reason.
Nobody here is crying just stating their experience, kid.

xile6 said:
I did the same tests as you and if i hold the phone upside down it opens and swings but you know what? Why the hell would i hold the phone like that in a day to day use I have no problem with the screen at all because when you hold the phone normal it works like ti should and your right people need to grow up and stop crying over something that works.
My phone has never open or closed on its own and i had the phone since 9/30
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I think it should be very clear by this point that all hinges are not created equal.... I.E. some people's hinges are far looser than others
With that said, you should quit telling people to "grow up" because it works when you use it right...
Frankly, who is to say what using the phone "Right" is? You telling people that their grief is nonsense because YOUR phone works the way YOU use it is bull****.

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Stuck buttons

Hi
My imagio Start and back keys are stuck!!!
anyone else with the same problem!!!
Stuck Buttons
This is an issue with the Imagio. The only real fix is to have VZ send a replacement.
There has been a discusion on it here at PPC
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=99190
And, if you look on the VZ forums there are more people talking about this.
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My imagio Start and back keys are stuck!!!
anyone else with the same problem!!!
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yeah- like the guy said- a whole thread dedicated to the subject. and then you find out that even though you pay for insurance instead of getting a new phone they send you someone else's old phone that was broke and they fixed for you. nice. when my end button got stuck down i ended up ripping it off and fooling with it until it unstuck. had to use a little adhesive (totally lame) to make the cover stay on the actual button. definitely does not work as good. after that i started looking into all the ways i could to avoid using those buttons.
xda shutdown.
volume app's.
etc.
Mine stuck within the first 30 days so I made them give me another brand new one. They tried the certified like new thing with me but I wouldn't accept that. It did take a fair amount of *****ing on my part before they gave in.
Why would I pay for something new that doesn't last a month and accept a refurb?
So my point is, if your phone breaks soon after you bought it, don't accept anything less.
Also, I'm on my 3rd one. Verizon's policy after the 3rd one within a year is to get you into something different that's new and of "equal value" if you want. However, they will not openly tell you that unless you insist on it.
I'm on #2 and I am tossed between using the buttons as little as possible or as much as possible.
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Hi guys, have just referenced this issue and thread in the Wiki. Hopefully some more travellers will find the info and offer some assistance.
freakin buttons
My wife and I both have Imagios. I have had mine replaced once already the buttons on the replacemnet are stuck and a new one is on the way. The buttons on my wife's are now stuck and she has a replacement on the way.
Verizon is telling me that they no longer let you get a different phone after 3 replacements. I would yell and complain, but what phone do they have thats better?
Add me to the list. Windows button decided to get stuck last night. I will say that it was particularly cold (36F) and I had been outside for some time, thus making the device fairly cold. When I depressed the button, I noticed that it was hesitant to move, then made an quiet yet audible *click* and that was that. I have a feeling that the defect lies in the membrane beneath the button and when exposed to cold, it becomes inflexible and cracks. I'm debating whether to actually go to the VZW store or call the customer service. If I actually go to the store, will they likely give me a new device (if stocked) or do they have refurbs in the store? So long as the refurb is in brand-new condition, it doesn't matter to me as I have a feeling this will just happen again. While I love this phone, I'm hoping warmer days will make this a non-issue. In any case, it's a bit of a bummer when virtually every day I have impromptu debates with a droid owner about who's phone is better. Last night, I lost.
gilbenl said:
Add me to the list. Windows button decided to get stuck last night. I will say that it was particularly cold (36F) and I had been outside for some time, thus making the device fairly cold. When I depressed the button, I noticed that it was hesitant to move, then made an quiet yet audible *click* and that was that. I have a feeling that the defect lies in the membrane beneath the button and when exposed to cold, it becomes inflexible and cracks. I'm debating whether to actually go to the VZW store or call the customer service. If I actually go to the store, will they likely give me a new device (if stocked) or do they have refurbs in the store? So long as the refurb is in brand-new condition, it doesn't matter to me as I have a feeling this will just happen again. While I love this phone, I'm hoping warmer days will make this a non-issue. In any case, it's a bit of a bummer when virtually every day I have impromptu debates with a droid owner about who's phone is better. Last night, I lost.
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I am with you on the debate. I want to yell at Verizon to make them let me get out of this phone, but I wouldn't know what to get. I actually like this phone a lot. I like that I can goof around with it and possibly get android on it in the future.
mikebbass said:
I am with you on the debate. I want to yell at Verizon to make them let me get out of this phone, but I wouldn't know what to get. I actually like this phone a lot. I like that I can goof around with it and possibly get android on it in the future.
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would be like able to get replacement buttons on ebay.... so i can fix them myself... LOL i cant send it back to verizon i live in india!!! sis gave me this phone as a gift
mally2 said:
would be like able to get replacement buttons on ebay.... so i can fix them myself... LOL i cant send it back to verizon i live in india!!! sis gave me this phone as a gift
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any info
can i get replacemnt on ebay
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any info
can i get replacemnt on ebay
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**** my send key is now stuck,..... though it works on pressure!!! damn!!!!! can i get replacement keys anywhre
If you have proof of purchase (IE original packaging,maybe a receipt), it may be worthwhile to contact HTC directly. I would assume that the phone was purchased w/o a plan and/or you're not a current VZW customer anyway. I would assume then that any defect/warranty issues would default to the manufacturer. I believe HTC has a 90-day warranty.
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i tried conatcting local HTC india ,.,.,. they cant help.... can i get replacement on ebay or anywhere ... plssss its urgent
stuck buttons avoidance
I have a solution that seems to have ensured I don't have this problem. I placed a screen protector from my mp3 player across the buttons (since most screen protectors for the imagio only cover just the screen itself), and then using an xacto knife i carefully cut the excess mp3-screen protector around the outside edge of the send and end button and along the bottom of all the buttons such that the remaining film secures all the buttons together.
This seems to have some effect in stabilizing the buttons and making sure nothing snags on them or prys on them and it seems to keep my phone from having the problem reported here. I've had mine on for at least 3 months and not a single button problem.
yatman60 said:
I have a solution that seems to have ensured I don't have this problem. I placed a screen protector from my mp3 player across the buttons (since most screen protectors for the imagio only cover just the screen itself), and then using an xacto knife i carefully cut the excess mp3-screen protector around the outside edge of the send and end button and along the bottom of all the buttons such that the remaining film secures all the buttons together.
This seems to have some effect in stabilizing the buttons and making sure nothing snags on them or prys on them and it seems to keep my phone from having the problem reported here. I've had mine on for at least 3 months and not a single button problem.
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Hi
well thats great!!! not sure what i can do now unless i get replacement buttons on ebay or any online stores
What exactly did HTC say?...They warranty these phones for one year, and they were released in october, so its not out of their hardware warranty period.
Is the ESN on this phone valid? Something isn't adding up here.
gilbenl said:
What exactly did HTC say?...They warranty these phones for one year, and they were released in october, so its not out of their hardware warranty period.
Is the ESN on this phone valid? Something isn't adding up here.
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Hi
The problem is i got the phone from my sister who lives in US.... i live in INDIA!!! bangalore to be precise!!! So HTC say they wont help.... my sis will be back after 6 months... LOL
Ps whats ESN... is tht the IMEI!!!! well its GSM unlocked thats as far as i know
Here's an idea: Call HTC USA and pretend you're wherever your sister lives in the US. Explain the issue (leaving out the bought as gift, sent to india part) and then when they say they'll fix it (which, if the phone isn't stolen or otherwise they will) send it to your sis in the US and have her send it to HTC from a US address. I'm sure with the large number of questionable phones floating around india/asia they're hesitant to replace it. When in doubt, lie. You purchased a product and you deserve coverage. Don't let their resistance stop you; you're certainly not doing anything illegal, simply circumventing their "security" measures.
Spam taken care of, not linking to topic to help him spread his 'cause'.

dust under the lcd?.... my story!

so i got the dreaded dust under my lcd screen even with a screen protector on. i went to a sprint service center and they tried to clean it out and couldn't get all of it. they said they have seen many hero's with this issue and of course it is well known on the net. sprint says htc is working on a fix? so my question to them was, when they fix it will they repair our hero's or will we get another phone? sprint claims they will notify owners when the fix is ready. i have no idea what this means but they are very aware of it! bottom line is it is a manufacturer and sprint defect and im getting a new hero shipped out to me in a few days. where or not this one gets dust is yet to be seen but im very unhappy right now!
ive gone through 4 defective brand new sprint phones in 6 months. i love the hero but if my replacement gets dust im selling it for another device.
any of you guys have this issue yet?
I have it in my Hero as well. I bought at release, and the problem really escalated in late December. Now there is a huge explosion shaped area of dust coming from the bottom left corner of my screen. I'd show a picture if i had a camera other than my phone.
Issue is widly known, but I thought they already had a fix for this. Wasn't hardware version 2 a fixed model? Seems like they put something in between the phone body and screen. Maybe I am thinking about my old Storm, but I thought this had been fixed in all new models.
fixxxer2008 said:
so i got the dreaded dust under my lcd screen even with a screen protector on. i went to a sprint service center and they tried to clean it out and couldn't get all of it. they said they have seen many hero's with this issue and of course it is well known on the net. sprint says htc is working on a fix? so my question to them was, when they fix it will they repair our hero's or will we get another phone? sprint claims they will notify owners when the fix is ready. i have no idea what this means but they are very aware of it! bottom line is it is a manufacturer and sprint defect and im getting a new hero shipped out to me in a few days. where or not this one gets dust is yet to be seen but im very unhappy right now!
ive gone through 4 defective brand new sprint phones in 6 months. i love the hero but if my replacement gets dust im selling it for another device.
any of you guys have this issue yet?
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i have dust im dealing with it man. its annoying but im sucking it up cause i love my hero well until i get the wimax that sprint is suppose to release then its gone lol
kramboid said:
I have it in my Hero as well. I bought at release, and the problem really escalated in late December. Now there is a huge explosion shaped area of dust coming from the bottom left corner of my screen. I'd show a picture if i had a camera other than my phone.
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call sprint for a replacement, they will do it for you. from what the tech told me, htc is working on another hero device that will be the replacement for our defective ones. they think we will all get a free upgrade as long as we can proove we have a dusty phone.
Kcarpenter said:
Issue is widly known, but I thought they already had a fix for this. Wasn't hardware version 2 a fixed model? Seems like they put something in between the phone body and screen. Maybe I am thinking about my old Storm, but I thought this had been fixed in all new models.
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there is no current fix for the hero, htc is 'working on it". it must be a defective seal on the lcd.
fixxxer2008 said:
call sprint for a replacement, they will do it for you. from what the tech told me, htc is working on another hero device that will be the replacement for our defective ones. they think we will all get a free upgrade as long as we can proove we have a dusty phone.
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The tech is wrong.. He was just trying to get you out of the store..
No company is ever going to give free upgrades when the complaint about the phone is a little dust under the screen ...............................................................................
Think about what you just said..
Its stupid to put any phone in your pocket,(ie Blackberry trackballs etc) and that issue is a direct result of a condition you have personally put your phone in..
Neither sprint, nor HTC is responsible for shoddy electronic upkeep.
mine has dust on the left botton corner too.. it's a revision 2 model...
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Its stupid to put any phone in your pocket
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Umm, im gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that statement right there lol. Phones can go in pockets, and the dust IS a design flaw. BUT on the other hand, I just took it apart and clean it up when it happened to me, and it has looked brand new ever since
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
The tech is wrong.. He was just trying to get you out of the store..
No company is ever going to give free upgrades when the complaint about the phone is a little dust under the screen ...............................................................................
Think about what you just said..
Its stupid to put any phone in your pocket,(ie Blackberry trackballs etc) and that issue is a direct result of a condition you have personally put your phone in..
Neither sprint, nor HTC is responsible for shoddy electronic upkeep.
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what the hell are you talking about? it is a defect and they will fix it. it has nothing to do with how you carry it. think before you talk!
if it 'wasn't an issue they wouldn't replace it, would they!
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? it is a defect and they will fix it.
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It's a defect??
So an issue that 1/1,000,000 Hero's has is a defect? Just because something is "widespread on the internet" doesn't mean its a defect. Just because 25 people have an issue doesn't mean its a defect. That 25 people is only a small small fraction of the entire market..
Just because it happened to you, doesn't make it important. If you took the same care of your cell phone, that you do with everything else you own, you wouldn't be in this predicament..
Get rid of your sense of entitlement, and think before you talk...
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/23679?start=0&tstart=0&reqsorting=dec
that's how big this issue is, i cannot believe they cannot fix this or do a recall. i may have no choice but to buy a different phone.
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It's a defect??
So an issue that 1/1,000,000 Hero's has is a defect? Just because something is "widespread on the internet" doesn't mean its a defect. Just because 25 people have an issue doesn't mean its a defect. That 25 people is only a small small fraction of the entire market..
Just because it happened to you, doesn't make it important. If you took the same care of your cell phone, that you do with everything else you own, you wouldn't be in this predicament..
Get rid of your sense of entitlement, and think before you talk...
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i don't care if i get banned but your an ass, read the link i posted, this is a well known issue. wait till you get the dust and see how annoying it is to pay $500 for a 'quality" phone and be told to just deal with it.
do us a favor and don't respond, your posts are stupider by the minute.
Its funny...
I don't have dust... And I take care of my phone....
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At the risk of feeding the troll I just want to say the following:
I just returned a phone I'd had for 2 weeks due to the dust under the LCD screen issue. I can assure you quite thoroughly that I took care of the phone. The people at Sprint knew about the issue and replaced it with no problems.
1. I don't now, nor have I ever carried my phone in my pocket.
2. The phone has a case, with belt clip. I carry it there.
3. I had a screen protector on the phone.
4. The dust appeared after the 3rd day.
5. I lint-free cloth cleaned my screen each evening.
Just because you were one of the lucky ones who got the phone without issues doesn't automatically mean that you're the only one who knows how to take care of your phone. People who spend 500-600.00 on a phone generally take REALLY good care of them.
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Its funny...
I don't have dust... And I take care of my phone....
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your a troll, so yeah the hundreds of people with dust treat their phones like ****?..... please!
not to sound like a troll, but here's my story
i take EXCELLENT care of my phone, like its almost sad how much i love this phone and don't want anything to happen to it. everytime after i use it i wipe it off, wash my hands before handling, i put it in a ziploc bag anytime there may be moisture around.... the list goes on
my girlfriend on the other hand... she has a with google hero and her phone rolls around in her purse all day, one night she lost it and i found it under a couch cushion, she's dropped it (she has one of those bodyglove cases on it) and it came apart into about 6 pieces, three times that i know of, dropped it in spaghetti, the list goes on and on and on....
she doesn't take care of it at all,
but yet i have dust under my screen and she doesn't.
it's not about who takes better care of the device, it's about who gets what device to begin with. imo.
i had dust under my screen and my buttons (end call/ power and call) had the metal flaking off really bad
i brought it to the sprint store that had the service center and they gave me basically brand new housing for free. they replaced the whole front so my trackball is clear and it looks brand new
all for free!
Leukay said:
Umm, im gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that statement right there lol. Phones can go in pockets, and the dust IS a design flaw. BUT on the other hand, I just took it apart and clean it up when it happened to me, and it has looked brand new ever since
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Did you remove the screen too, or how did you go about it?
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Did you remove the screen too, or how did you go about it?
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i wouldn't try it, id go to a repair center.

Manufacture Defect?...EDIT: It was and im getting a new phone:)

Okay, so i noticed a few months back that the hinge on the camera side on my camera didnt fit properly. And it slid around very badly. I took it to the Verizon store and they barely looked over it and told me i could buy a case for my phone. I took it again a couple weeks ago...they told me that it looked like a hinge broke on my back cover, and they again told me i could buy i case-__-....So, i didnt buy a case, but i ordered a replacement back...and low and behold THE SAME PROBLEM...I do admit that the replacement does fit a bit more snug, but still doesnt fit into place in that corner.
I did notice that the hinge on the back cover doesnt meet up directly with the hinge on the back of the phone which means it has to be a problem with the way the phone was manufactured, because theres no way i can get two different back covers with the same defect!
I attached a pic....do any others have this issue?....cuz im not really sure if i should argue with Verizon at this point.
-I was planning on selling my Incredible next year to get a new phone...most likely this one http://androinica.com/2010/08/07/le...e-for-verizon-wireless-gets-caught-on-camera/
-And this manufacture defect lowers my resale value.
-Also im afraid they will try and argue with me, because i dropped my phone and have a cosmetic flaw on that side...so it kind of looks bad if you know what i mean.
-What do you guys think?
-You will also notice where it looks chewed up, thats a result of me dropping my phone, however...that happened long after i noticed the defect and long after i told Verizon about it...so they arent related issues at all
>>>>>I talked to the store reps and they documented it this time and that the warranty will send me a new one
Have you thought about getting a red original cover for it on ebay? Maybe that will make the resale more attractive.
I've always had one of those silicone cases on mine, but having to remote/reinsert my battery earlier I happen to have it off right now. Mine seems to fit well around the entire phone, though it did start coming off easier than I would've thought as I was removing the case earlier. I definitely don't have your problem though.
lamusician said:
Have you thought about getting a red original cover for it on ebay? Maybe that will make the resale more attractive.
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Dont have that kind of money x)...im only 17 and my parents wouldnt pay $100 for it...but that doesnt help my issue...im just wondering if i should take it back or not
the way i feel about it is that my lowered resale value should be a result of my own faults...i.e the me dropping it....but it shouldnt be lowered because of the manufacturer
not only that, it makes me feel uncomfortable that it wont be as sturdy or anything...which i already know thats the case
prowlah said:
I've always had one of those silicone cases on mine, but having to remote/reinsert my battery earlier I happen to have it off right now. Mine seems to fit well around the entire phone, though it did start coming off easier than I would've thought as I was removing the case earlier. I definitely don't have your problem though.
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Thanks...so do you think i should complain?...im kind of mixed about this...because my phone works perfectly fine...but then i have my feeling like what i posted above, my lowered resale value should be my fault not a result of a mis-manufactured phone
schwartzman93 said:
Thanks...so do you think i should complain?...im kind of mixed about this...because my phone works perfectly fine...but then i have my feeling like what i posted above, my lowered resale value should be my fault not a result of a mis-manufactured phone
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With the money that Verizon is making off of us, I don't see why you shouldn't complain. What's the worst thing that could happen?
lamusician said:
With the money that Verizon is making off of us, I don't see why you shouldn't complain. What's the worst thing that could happen?
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Idk, lol...i just hate dealing with reps that dont know ****...and also the lady at the warranty service told me that if i send it in and they determine i broke the phone. That i would be charged full retail price.
Why does the plastic on the front of that corner look all chewed up? It looks as though someone were prying it with something sharp and did a careless job.
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Why does the plastic on the front of that corner look all chewed up? It looks as though someone were prying it with something sharp and did a careless job.
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I dropped my phone...but that happend after i discovered the defect and showed it to the VZW store.
-I know it kind of looks bad on my record now...but im going to talk to the manager and tell him that the reps didnt document the other 3 times i came in when the lady on the warranty service said they should have
I'm sorry but that does not look like a defect. If it only happened after you dropped your phone, it's clear that there is some sort of correlation. These things don't happen randomly without some sort of mishandling.
I've had my phone since the day before release (got it a day early thanks to Fedex) and it looks pristine. Next time you should invest in a case which will help protect your phone and avoid stuff like this from happening.
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I'm sorry but that does not look like a defect. If it only happened after you dropped your phone, it's clear that there is some sort of correlation. These things don't happen randomly without some sort of mishandling.
I've had my phone since the day before release (got it a day early thanks to Fedex) and it looks pristine. Next time you should invest in a case which will help protect your phone and avoid stuff like this from happening.
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I said the I dropped my phone after I showed them the defect...but its all taken care of...it took it to the store and they documented it and they said warranty would send me a new one
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It bothers me that you got the same line of bs as I did. I also took my phone in because of a defect. I've always used a wrist strap on my phones and am always careful and OCD (I actually clean my phone everyday) about them. Well, the tiny plastic piece inside the battery cover that secures the wrist strap broke. The sales rep. said I'd have to buy a new phone because of wear and tear, take it up with HTC, or buy a case. I was upset, but too irritated and reserved to take it any further.
Really, why should we fork over MORE money for a case when there is an actual flaw in the product?
gentleart said:
It bothers me that you got the same line of bs as I did. I also took my phone in because of a defect. I've always used a wrist strap on my phones and am always careful and OCD (I actually clean my phone everyday) about them. Well, the tiny plastic piece inside the battery cover that secures the wrist strap broke. The sales rep. said I'd have to buy a new phone because of wear and tear, take it up with HTC, or buy a case. I was upset, but too irritated and reserved to take it any further.
Really, why should we fork over MORE money for a case when there is an actual flaw in the product?
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I probably clean my phone 10 times an hour, and a full polish twice a day.
tmellen said:
I probably clean my phone 10 times an hour, and a full polish twice a day.
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Thank you for making me feel half-way normal! lol
dude call *611 for a refurb.
Umm shouldn't you have complained when it was new?
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Umm shouldn't you have complained when it was new?
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If you read in the OP...i complained three different times...but each time they looked at it for a minute and told me i the broke cover...AND THEY DIDNT Document it....I tried a second time...they looked at it for a minute DIDNT DOCUMENT!...and they told me oh well you can call the warranty people, but it just looks like you broke the broke the back cover, you can buy a case if you want...so i called the warranty people and they told me that the workers should have documented it...so, i went a third time and they did and said the same thing each time...So, i bought a replacement back...AND IT WAS THE SAME ISSUE...which means it was the main part of my phone, not the back cover...and so i took it to the store and told them to do a thorough inspection and they even tested my back covers on their phones and both my back covers fit perfectly...so he showed his manager and they documented it and told me to call the warenty people and they should send me a new one...so im satisfied
gentleart said:
It bothers me that you got the same line of bs as I did. I also took my phone in because of a defect. I've always used a wrist strap on my phones and am always careful and OCD (I actually clean my phone everyday) about them. Well, the tiny plastic piece inside the battery cover that secures the wrist strap broke. The sales rep. said I'd have to buy a new phone because of wear and tear, take it up with HTC, or buy a case. I was upset, but too irritated and reserved to take it any further.
Really, why should we fork over MORE money for a case when there is an actual flaw in the product?
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Thats exactly the way i feel...while its great to have a case and it is recommended....ITS NOT NEEDED, and i dont want to pay money for something i dont 100% NEED...And im glad it didnt get to the point where i had to argue that with them...like i said, theyre gonna send me a new phone, so im happy
I think the most funny thing about all of this, is Im part Jewish, and that side of me came out today...because one of my main concerns was resale value...so my dad told me i Jewed Verizon, lol
--If you catch my drift
schwartzman93 said:
Thats exactly the way i feel...while its great to have a case and it is recommended....ITS NOT NEEDED, and i dont want to pay money for something i dont 100% NEED...And im glad it didnt get to the point where i had to argue that with them...like i said, theyre gonna send me a new phone, so im happy
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I'm happy it worked out for you.
I did exactly what I shouldn't have done and bought a gel case - though I wanted one anyway.
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Go on with yo Jew self. Part-Jew self.
Whatever, You made me laugh.

Am I screwed?

just bought a G2 from someone on craigslist
open the box and discovered the device has the infamous hinges AND reception problem!!!!!
I'm located in Canada will t-mo be able to send me a replacement across the border? any alternatives?
Pandabanana said:
just bought a G2 from someone on craigslist
open the box and discovered the device has the infamous hinges AND reception problem!!!!!
I'm located in Canada will t-mo be able to send me a replacement across the border? any alternatives?
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I don't think Tmo will be sending you a replacement since you got it through CL. I'd suggest calling up HTC directly and seeing if they can help you.
I've come to believe there is no hinge issue. Yes, I've been brainwashed.
I doubt tmo is going to replace a phone bought from cl, this is a risk you take when buying this way. The hinges on mine do the "auto open/close" thing too but in the month I have had it it has not been an issue. The hinge itself is strong just not spring loaded.... non issue.
Spotty service you can do 1 kof 2 things, 1 temp root and do the manup themed rom I found it more stable or 2 do the ota update I did both and the update is better for service....
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Pandabanana said:
just bought a G2 from someone on craigslist
open the box and discovered the device has the infamous hinges AND reception problem!!!!!
I'm located in Canada will t-mo be able to send me a replacement across the border? any alternatives?
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Hinge problem......what hinge problem thats the design dont listen to everyone turning there phone upside down.
grex49 said:
Hinge problem......what hinge problem thats the design dont listen to everyone turning there phone upside down.
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I am on my second G2.. and I can confirm that this second has a much crappier hinge. The hinge on my first phone would spring open or closed. This new one doesnt snap into place like the first one. I will be sending mine back. Not sure if I am going to get a new G2 or a mytouch.
I bought a motorola cliq on craigslist 2 months after the person had purchased it. But it still had the 1 year manufacture warranty from first purchase date. I dont know if the border will be an issue but the purchase will not be an issue. They have the record from the IMEI number.
drm916 said:
I am on my second G2.. and I can confirm that this second has a much crappier hinge. The hinge on my first phone would spring open or closed. This new one doesnt snap into place like the first one. I will be sending mine back. Not sure if I am going to get a new G2 or a mytouch.
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Get the mytouch. The g2 iz amazing, I loved it. But I think the mytouch iz all around better
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Pandabanana said:
just bought a G2 from someone on craigslist
open the box and discovered the device has the infamous hinges AND reception problem!!!!!
I'm located in Canada will t-mo be able to send me a replacement across the border? any alternatives?
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You should try getting the mannual update link on this forum. I did it yesterday, and since, I have not had any reboots, nor freezing that require battery pull. Signal strength is much better, being that I barely get signal at my desk, and now I can actually hold a conversation. Also, battery life seems to have improved a bit...where I was getting maybe 40% by Noon, it's 4:00 PM as I am writting this and I have 32% left.....
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I've come to believe there is no hinge issue. Yes, I've been brainwashed.
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I have an issues...I have never been able to be hypnotized.....much less brain washed....my hinges still suck!!!!!
I just purchased the thin plastic rubberized cover for the phone (I think you have the same one) bcs the OEM T-Mo gel is very heavy...I think that had something to do with making the hinge problem worst.
It's really not a non-issue, except for the fact that I paid $250 for this phone plus hipping and taxes and I really find the hinge to be a POS...and not really acceptable at those prices. Now with that said, It really annoys me when I walk I can actually hear the phone "slapping" as I take strides....that really gets under my skin!!!
T-Mo will not stand by the product as defective, that pisses me off even more...they know that they sold a defective product and now are calling it a design feature.... I wonder what would have happened if Toyota said that about their break issue.....lol!
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Crey23 said:
You should try getting the mannual update link on this forum. I did it yesterday, and since, I have not had any reboots, nor freezing that require battery pull. Signal strength is much better, being that I barely get signal at my desk, and now I can actually hold a conversation. Also, battery life seems to have improved a bit...where I was getting maybe 40% by Noon, it's 4:00 PM as I am writting this and I have 32% left.....
I have an issues...I have never been able to be hypnotized.....much less brain washed....my hinges still suck!!!!!
I just purchased the thin plastic rubberized cover for the phone (I think you have the same one) bcs the OEM T-Mo gel is very heavy...I think that had something to do with making the hinge problem worst.
It's really not a non-issue, except for the fact that I paid $250 for this phone plus hipping and taxes and I really find the hinge to be a POS...and not really acceptable at those prices. Now with that said, It really annoys me when I walk I can actually hear the phone "slapping" as I take strides....that really gets under my skin!!!
T-Mo will not stand by the product as defective, that pisses me off even more...they know that they sold a defective product and now are calling it a design feature.... I wonder what would have happened if Toyota said that about their break issue.....lol!
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Couldn't have said this better, kudos to you, man the hinges are defective! Seriously I can't believe the people who agree that its a feature lmao, yea let toyota said the break issue was a feature too, only imagine... lmaoooo. But its just a phone who cares right let people pay their money and that's it, yea iight I want this hinge issue solve by htc or tmo I'm sending it back htc so they can put stronger magnets on the device. In case y'all didn't know someone found weak magnets on the G2 with a paper clip I think on the sides of the keyboard I read this on a tmo forum like three people found the magnets. Well I guess ima send their piece if ****ty hinge G2 for a fix and they better put stronger magnets
Tmo has been a total disappointment on this device for me. Can't believe they're trying to be like apple with the iphone 4 as they refused to admit it was a design defect/flaw and the phone just wasn't been hold the right way lmaoooo. Things like mass production of defective device can happen guys just because the majority of G2 got this problem doesn't mean it was ment to be like this. Look at toyota, do you think the break issue was a feature?
That's cool that's a lovely feature a car that has a not always functional break, yea and they targeted for crazy people if a normal people buys it and they don't like our new feature they can return their car. Its the spontanious break feature, your breaks may not work at times and at times it will, enjoy our new feature it is targeted for people who love to die
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K
....Tmo has been a total disappointment on this device for me.....
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No kidding.....I sent back my first phone for two reasons....the hinge was absolutely loose, and multiple freezes a day, with at least one batt pull a day!
They sent me a second phone....I really tried to deal with the issues, but I called (Day 14th), they told me that my Buyers remorse period had already ended, that there was nothing they could do about the hinges nor the reboots!!!! I received my phone on Oct 15th, on the 29th I called to have it replaced. They told me that the 14th day had been the 28th, bcs they count the delivery date as the first day....I pretty much lost it at that point and told the gal that she was full $#it!!!! I told her that it was like saying that the day a bay is born, they are already a day old!!!!
I am certainly beginning to doubt TMO claim for #1 on customer service....I seem to the same lame service I had with ATT when I left them 10Yrs ago!...i guess not sucking like ATT is the new definition of great cust serv....shish!!!
Crey23 said:
No kidding.....I sent back my first phone for two reasons....the hinge was absolutely loose, and multiple freezes a day, with at least one batt pull a day!
They sent me a second phone....I really tried to deal with the issues, but I called (Day 14th), they told me that my Buyers remorse period had already ended, that there was nothing they could do about the hinges nor the reboots!!!! I received my phone on Oct 15th, on the 29th I called to have it replaced. They told me that the 14th day had been the 28th, bcs they count the delivery date as the first day....I pretty much lost it at that point and told the gal that she was full $#it!!!! I told her that it was like saying that the day a bay is born, they are already a day old!!!!
I am certainly beginning to doubt TMO claim for #1 on customer service....I seem to the same lame service I had with ATT when I left them 10Yrs ago!...i guess not sucking like ATT is the new definition of great cust serv....shish!!!
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Wow how does the delivery day count as day one SMFH you still was on your remorse period is just been 14 days since you got the device they are so full of it, if this was to happen to me all I would've lost it even worst than you did
All I can say is
1.they really messed up badly on this device: hinges are crap, nothing they can do about that for those who already have the crappy hinges but exchange for crappier or better hinges
2. They're trying to cover their **** up by brainwashing people to believe the hinges are built that way, I feel bad for those who were brainwashed.
3. Tmo badly fail to explain the storage to people before they realese the phone. It does have a 4gb internal mem but the thing is due to froyo the memory has a limit for downloading apps, mytouch 4g and galaxy s phones are also showing the 1.15 gb available mem even tho they obviously come with much more. Damn was that really hard to explain before the device launch! But they better learn from this.
4. This phone probably has the most exchanges and returns in tmo history. And the saddest part is that is only due to the hinges, for the most part and for the storage, some people were very angry at this I could tell from visiting numerous forums regarding the storage. I really didn't care much for storage tho I knew there mustve been an explanation for this and there was, some one took the device apart and found the mem to be a 4gb.
5. Could've they avoid this? Yes maybe if they explain storage, and made sure device was better built on hinges they wouldn't be experiencing these issues. Some even found magnets on the device on the sides of the keyboard, this means that they used the wrong magnets.
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I think this hinge issue is crazy, I mean yea what a great feature so it was basically made so it opens easily LOL I makes me imagine tmo making cars and me buying a car that has loose doors that would open on a turn lmao, and the excuse for that would be: this is a brand new feature that will allow you to open your car door easier than ever, no need to sturggle opening your door just barely pull the handle and it'll smoothly open lmfao, I only laugh at the people who believe tmo on this. That's a lovely feature
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thanks for the responses guys, the seller agreed to refund me the money. I'm wondering if I should get another g2 after seeing all these complains
To everybody including PandaBanana I agree there's a hinge issue. Except in my case probably not that serious. I don't hold my phone upside down and when I do to show people the problem it barely hangs down as much as other people. Its unfortunate but I would rather this then the phone be even more bulkier if they would've went with a regular slider mechanism. Especially since I was an original iphone user I can say I'm mostly satisfied. Battery and the android keyboard is my only concerns. I like the hacker friendliness with the OS and I must say besides the hinges which is not bad on mine I'm really satisfied with the build quality. If anybody doesn't believe me about the hinge problems I can take pics and show y'all.
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You mean you hinges are tight and they don't pop open when they're held upsidedown?....
Lucky Guy...........
Regarding the spring thing. Is there really some visible spring in sight?
Total Fail.
While the G2 is snappy and fun to play with, it's a piece of crap. The amount of problems that people are having with hardware and software is just ridiculous.
If you're thinking of upgrading to the G2, don't so it!
I went back to my Nexus One and couldn't be happier.
Screw you TMobile and your weak-hinged, missing-memory, daily-crashing, dead-pixel piece of crap phone!
I think it's HTC, it's not all T-Mobile's fault. After all this phone is marketed as the desire z in europe. What a shame this phone is in my opinion. I will be selling it soon. Such a great build quality: brushed aluminum with silicon coated plastic, but with loose, wobbly hinges. I find using the hardware keyboard too uncomfortable for daily use because of the hinges. I'll continue my wait for the perfect android phone. Or perhaps if the iphone does come to t mobile, I'll settle for it.
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Total Fail.
While the G2 is snappy and fun to play with, it's a piece of crap. The amount of problems that people are having with hardware and software is just ridiculous.
If you're thinking of upgrading to the G2, don't so it!
I went back to my Nexus One and couldn't be happier.
Screw you TMobile and your weak-hinged, missing-memory, daily-crashing, dead-pixel piece of crap phone!
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You win the "retard of the day" award, I say day and not week because I'm confident you'll top this one shortly.
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androidfeen809 said:
4. This phone probably has the most exchanges and returns in tmo history. And the saddest part is that is only due to the hinges, for the most part and for the storage, some people were very angry at this I could tell from visiting numerous forums regarding the storage. I really didn't care much for storage tho I knew there mustve been an explanation for this and there was, some one took the device apart and found the mem to be a 4gb.
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LOL too bad you got a dud but the truth the G2 is a successful phone and another win for HTC. What are you basing this speculation on? I doubt very much that the return rate is above what to be expected for a new smart phone. Here's advice for androidfeen809 - get an iPhone - no hinge problem!

[Q] Bottom of phone Creaking?

anyone have any issues when the press upward on the bottom of the phone. Mine is creaking
i might swap it out
Lockeskidney said:
anyone have any issues when the press upward on the bottom of the phone. Mine is creaking
i might swap it out
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have the black MT4G and no problem with creaking. I would swap it.
Yep mine is too. it's annoying if I press the bottom of the phone (basically where the microphone is) but I dont want to send it back and get a phone with the same issue after I've rooted and customized it to how I want it.
btw I have the white one.
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Yep mine is too. it's annoying if I press the bottom of the phone (basically where the microphone is) but I dont want to send it back and get a phone with the same issue after I've rooted and customized it to how I want it.
btw I have the white one.
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if tmo sent you the phone can you go into a tmo store and exchange?
Lockeskidney said:
if tmo sent you the phone can you go into a tmo store and exchange?
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Not sure. Unfortunately for me I don't have a Tmobile store close enough. The closest one is 62 miles
Lockeskidney said:
if tmo sent you the phone can you go into a tmo store and exchange?
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You will have to ship it back to Tmobile, you can not take it into the store. I'm going through the exchange process with them right now.
boroarke said:
You will have to ship it back to Tmobile, you can not take it into the store. I'm going through the exchange process with them right now.
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Are you exchanging it due to the creaking noise? Or something else?
now with video evidence. not sure if i want to go through the whole process for a little creaking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-VRMgDFq5Q
Yep, that's exactly it.
Now that I think about my only concern is that it might get worse off the longer I use it due to the touchpad and the hardware buttons being in the same vicinity. I guess for now I will live with it as I don't really touch that part at all (bottom of phone). Just sucks paying hundreds of dollars for a high end phone to have any quirks like this.
Luckily it doesn't creak when I use the hardware buttons or trackpad (yet). Hoping it stays that way.
Lockeskidney said:
not sure if i want to go through the whole process for a little creaking
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I have this same issue with my Slide. It's REALLY annoying. I regretted not trading it in when I still could. Might want to consider it.
That is weird, I have a red one and I tried to see if mine would do that same thing, and it's as solid as a rock. I would replace it if I were you.
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Are you exchanging it due to the creaking noise? Or something else?
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No creaking. When my phone arrived, only the bottom half of the physical buttons at the bottom illuminated. Looks like some of the LEDs were damaged. They reshipped the replacement via 2nd day air and it will be here today. Will have to check it for the creaking noise when it arrives.
I have the white one, and I don't have the creaking the way you describe it. I do have creaky noises when pressing mainly the menu button and when wiggling it back and forth and to a lesser extent the opposite back key. The action trackpad also sort of clicks around in its housing too.
boroarke said:
No creaking. When my phone arrived, only the bottom half of the physical buttons at the bottom illuminated. Looks like some of the LEDs were damaged. They reshipped the replacement via 2nd day air and it will be here today. Will have to check it for the creaking noise when it arrives.
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All of my leds quit working on the bottom. If I pinched the right side of the phone by the genius button they would come back on. The genius button also had to be pressed very hard to get any result. Replacement is on the way.
I just noticed my creaking today. Bought mine through Costco and will keep an eye on it.
I also have a slight creak with my case, while my wife's is fine. If you exchange the phone during the 2 week remorse period, do you get another 2 weeks to make sure the new one doesn't have any issues?
I finally had it and went ahead and called in for a new one. I thought I could look past it but then it started getting to me and I figured I better do it now while I can or ***** about it after my 14 days are up when I had the opportunity but didn't. I'm praying the new one shows no signs of this.
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I finally had it and went ahead and called in for a new one. I thought I could look past it but then it started getting to me and I figured I better do it now while I can or ***** about it after my 14 days are up when I had the opportunity but didn't. I'm praying the new one shows no signs of this.
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So do you get a new 14 days with the new one?
netter123 said:
So do you get a new 14 days with the new one?
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To be honest I'm not sure how that works but I am almost 90% positive yes you do get another 14 days. I don't see how you wouldn't you know? new device, new order and all. I might be wrong which is why I didn't answer you before I posted my comment earlier. Sorry.
Hopefully someone here can give you a 100% answer but my guess is absolutely!
fyi you need to do a return/rebuy type deal if you want to make sure you get a new phone... < this is the 14 days (30 days in cali) you have to send your phone/box/parts back first
after 14 days (up to 12months) you need to do a exchange they will send you the replacement phone first(no battery/back cover) then you send the defective one back in that box> just exchanging the phone may leave you with a refurbished one :/ thats the only reason i hate exchanging... generally refurb phones are >half price so its like your trading in your $200 phone for a $100 one :/

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