Thoughts? Evo or Epic. - Epic 4G General

So I know you have all heard the Evo vs Epic story, but i'm in a bit deeper than most. I purchased the phone outright, but to try and save a few pennies on it I had sold back my Pre and Hero to Sprint. That being said I have no backup phone so I have 30 days to decide what to go with. According to the coverage maps my place of work and house both say I am in good coverage, however that is not the case. When I first got the phone I was getting zero reception in my room and spotty coverage throughout the rest of my house. At work my phone is constantly beeping in my pocket telling me that I am dropping my signal. This is the part where I am confused..over the past week and half of using the phone it almost seems that the phone seems to be holding a better signal? Over the past 3 or 4 days my signal within my house a bit stronger and when I first enter my room to go to bed at night I have a signal but it eventually drops out completely. Am I delirious or is this possible? Mind you I had no issues with my Hero, Touch Pro, or Pre in these same places. I work along side a few people who have Evo's and I have been running tests and they are pulling a much stronger signal than me. Basically I have till the end of the month to make a decision..first and foremost I need a phone that works, but I waited for the Epic because, in my opinion, it is superior to the Evo. Is it possible that with future updates that signal/reception could improve? Any other comments/opinions? Thanks.

As an old Evo owner I can tell you that the Evo has received about 3 or 4 radio updates since release. Its initial service was about the same as the Epic's currently.
As for updates (radio aside), they should come, most likely with Froyo as why rush to fix a bunch of stuff in 2.1 when 2.2 should literally be a few weeks off.
The development community is far less potent with the epic for obvious reasons. We absolutely need a custom recovery for rom development and until that happens you won't see anything as we just don't have an easy way to flash to the device. Unfortunately that is beyond my capabilities right now so hopefully with Verizon launching their version we will get some love as the two devices are more similar than the GSM counterparts.
On the one side the Epic needs custom roms far less than the evo. It however needs some updates from Samsung and Sprint. Double edge sword I guess.

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Who here is going to move to the EVO when its relesed or shortly there after?

With all the excitement over this device who here is going to jump **** and move to the HTC EVO? I love my little Hero but this phone is awesome! I will probably just give the hero to my lady, but I'm worried development will halt after this is released. This has been a great learning device as we got it rooted to quickly and customization came shortly there after. Id like to here your opinions on the Hero and EVO. Exciting times for Sprint users
Day 1 purchase.
Ceger
It's been fun... but good bye Hero, hello Evo!
I'm getting the Evo when it comes out!
Post root purchase.
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Post root purchase.
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My upgrade is October so hopefully it will be by then.
WhiteWidows said:
My upgrade is October so hopefully it will be by then.
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Mine's in November, but I might bight the bullet to avoid a root-patch
Im not a fan of the size, So I will hold out for something better.
If the N1 drops on Sprint before the EVO even has a date and/or price then I will pick it up (the Nexus). If the EVO has a date and price when then happens, well, then it will depend.
I love all the cool phones dropping every 6 months anymore, but wow this is getting expensive!
If it were rooted and had real hardkeys, I'd be at Best Buy at 10am on October 9th to buy one & celebrate my 12-month anniversary. To be honest, I don't really like either the Nexus One or the Evo. The hypothetical phone I really want is an "Incredible" that's rooted and can take a minimally-tweaked N1 ROM almost straight from git and flash without drama. Then I could have my hardkeys, trackball, 850x480 display, enjoy SenseUI for now, but freely ditch it for NexusLand the moment I feel like it's getting in the way and limiting my upgrade options.
4G would be nice, but as it stands I barely have usable data service inside my house (if I disable 'hybrid' and try to force EV-DO, it flat-out doesn't work about 20% of the time, and is unreliable another 20-30%). Assuming WiMax propagation & signals are on par with Sprint's CDMA2000 service, I have every reason to suspect that my neighborhood will be as "urban fringe" for 4G as it is for EV-DO.
(edit)Actually, I take that back. I think part of my problem is the fact that my house shares a Sprint tower with a major regional mall 2 blocks away. Late at night, and in the middle of the afternoon on most weekdays, EV-DO works fairly well. But 4-9pm, and weekends... (((shudder))).
I plan to buy the EVO the day it hits the market. My Hero isn't eligible for the upgrade until December, but my wife and daughter are due April 1. I plan to have one of them delay upgrading so I can use their upgrade to get the EVO, then give them my Hero.
This is one nice benefit of having a plan with 5 phones. I usually have a phone ready for upgrade every 4 months or so.
Not me, I think it sucks.
Ohhh, I almost kept a straight face on that!
I live in Austin, which is crawling with WIMAX. I have been wanting a higher res vid cam. I kept playing with the HD demo here at the GDGT party a week ago (which has a similar sized screen). I've been seriously eyeing the Sprint Overdrive myfi hotspot. HDMI output??? Hello!!
There are just too many things that this phone has that I want. I am not rich but will be getting it even if I have to work nights to save up for it!
I'll be dropping it on my employee line ASAP. Hopefully they won't restrict it on us.
i wont give a shizz if my hero its able to upgrade or anything ill get it no matter what
Will you move to the EVO sub-forum with questions regarding a phone that's not labeled in this sub-forum when it is released?? (which was created 12 hours ago, and before this post?)
lol.. just playing
Since no large screen keyboard devices are coming ill most likely grab the evo.
What i really wanna know is if the great dev support we got for our heroes will be making the move to the EVO?
Flipz? Darch? Toast? etc?
I know Gbhil mentioned he will be switching between the Evo and the Hero due to size.
ill pass on it tbh...the thing is huge and i won't use half of the features. besides the fact i bet the price tag will be about $600+ without an upgrade fee applied.
im moving to the nexus.
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im moving to the nexus.
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Not being a ****, but have you done research yet?
You've seen the purple hue issues?
You've seen the hardware issues?(albeit 99% fixed)
Make sure you like this phone please... Try the **** out of it for your 7 days...
I just got my Hero less than 2 months ago, so I'll stick with it until upgrade time, by then they should have even more killer phones avail

Experiences with Evo/Sprint?

I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
Seems like your biggest issue is your coverage at your house. Best advice I can give you is go get an EVO, go home, check to see if you have good signal and 4G.
U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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jesziicuh said:
U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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Punctuation is so overrated these days.
You will love an Evo, Sprint is a great company and the customer service has come a long way.
Try it for 30 days free, if not satisfied then return it, (yes you can root it and still return it)
wdfowty said:
I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
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Sprint actually has pretty good coverage in the San Francisco area. It's really hard to build new towers there nowadays so younger networks (T-Mobile) or older networks that are now overloaded (AT&T) have a really tough time working well there.
I suggest you take advantage of Sprint's 30-day unconditional return policy and test drive the EVO 4G for a few weeks. If you don't like it, or it doesn't work well for you, you can return the device and pay nothing (no restock fee or prorated usage fee, or anything).
Reiterating what others have said, signal in your home/area is going to vary, and your best bet is to try it out.
Sometimes while you are in the 30 day window, if you try to cancel due to lack of signal in your home the store will offer the signal booster thingy (I can't remember the name) and wave the monthly fee. It connects to your router and essentially gives you a tower in your home over the internet.
As for the EVO, I've had a Hero and a T-Mobile G1, and I love the EVO. It does everything I want, and then some. Rooting is key though, and I think the best battery life comes from the custom roms on these forums.
Give it a go for 30 days without canceling your T-Mobile phone. At the worst, you'll pay for a month of service on both lines. Once you test it out though and determine Sprint is the way to go, you can transfer your number from T-Mobile.
Oh, and 4G sucks the battery from your phone, so it's really rather useless in my opinion, unless you're tethering and plugged in, otherwise it's as good as a cable connection.
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U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage...
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This map is crap. The map indicates that I have excellent coverage at home and work and is not so. Do what tgruendler said. Get the phone, take it home and test it and see what you think.
When I first got my Evo a lot of people I knew were saying "it's a nice phone and all, but you had to go to SPRINT?"
Now the Evo also marks my maiden voyage with Sprint, so I don't know the history that may have gotten them this bad rep ... but I have to say I've been nothing but pleased. I bought my phone a mere 2 weeks before my road trip across 4 states in 3 weeks (started in Georgia and ended up in Washington DC). During the ENTIRE road trip I had signal. Now I didn't call people, but I did use google maps and Nav and I maintained data the entire time (some minor blackouts in Mentone Alabama looking for an old friend's wedding ... but if you saw where I was you'd completely understand too ... and GMaps still got me there fine).
So while during this trip I saw 4G go up and down ... I will say their data was consistent. I uploaded photos to facebook nightly, took pictures all day, and even occasionally handed the phone to the kids to stream you tube videos (OK I had to plug in for that ... phone can't handle 4-6 hours straight youtube).
My only complaint with this phone while on 2.1 an touring ... was that 4G would destroy my phone (only when connected ... 4G seemed to idle fine in areas with no coverage). By destroy i mean that doing the same heavy uploading of images would kill the phone in about 4 hours.
Now back in the home land of LA ... vacation is over and I'm making more calls than you tube videos. In this case it's more of a Sprint vs ATT conversation (my old provider) and I have to say: Sprints coverage blows away ATT in all areas here. I consult .... meaning i travel all corners of the southland. While Sprint may have bad signal reception occasionally ... it _never_ disconnects. In contrast my ATT signal was always clear .... when it bothered to connect and would disconnect _constantly_ even when driving down major highways. So I like the Sprint service much better.
My Phone has "evolved" with me which is huge. 4G is now here where I live ... but I've also learned to root and tweak my EVO ... and I leave 4G on all day now and can make it from wake up to home with the wife and kids on one charge without having to plug in (I do tend to car charge every so often if i know I'm going to be on a long conference call or can't resist flashing a new ROM during my lunch break ... but that's not suprising). Between 2.2 improvements and wonderful after market ROMs and tweaks, the EVO isn't nearly as bad of a battery vacuum as it was when I first got it so it's to the point that I just leave all the features enabled (except wifi ... i don't see a point when 4g is faster than _any_ free wifi spot that is always over congested).
The ONLY thing I really don't like about Sprint is that i don't get voice and data at the same time. 4G fixes that (another reason i leave it on all the time)... but it's coverage is honestly spotty ... unlike Sprint 3G this one really is location sensitive.
The phone itself ... is awesome. I just can't complain as it still feels cutting edge after 6 months of having it (or is it 7 now ... i forget).
Summary: the battery used to be BAD with 4g turned on. 2.2 improvements and a good community changed all of that... and the phone is flexible and powerful enough that I don't care what's been released sense. I would love a longer battery life (who wouldn't), but considering I basically have a PC in my Pocket I'm OK with that trade off.
EDIT: one other negative I should note: I noticed with the stock HTC ROM having 4G turned on would occasionally make the whole phone stutter and lag, even when doing trivial things like scrolling between home screens. It would actually made the phone feel slower with 4g turned on if i wasn't directly doing a data intesive task. Custom ROMs _completely_ solved that problem. For the record i currently use Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS4 on the HTC17 kernel with the battery tweak, and all sense ripped out I could get away with (rosie pulled out compeltely, gingerbread keyboard, etc), and those stutters are a thing of the past.
Fantastic phone! Great network. Sprint is working hard to improve the quality of their customer service and doing a good job. They have already rolled out WiMax, so if you are in a coverage area you should be getting some pretty snappy speeds there. I also like the fact that Sprint isn't afraid to look at other technologies. I read an article the other day indicating that Sprint will probably begin developing an LTE network to work alongside the WiMax. All things considered, I would definitely recommend the Evo and Sprint
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Fantastic phone! Great network. Sprint is working hard to improve the quality of their customer service and doing a good job. They have already rolled out WiMax, so if you are in a coverage area you should be getting some pretty snappy speeds there. I also like the fact that Sprint isn't afraid to look at other technologies. I read an article the other day indicating that Sprint will probably begin developing an LTE network to work alongside the WiMax. All things considered, I would definitely recommend the Evo and Sprint
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Yeah - I couldnt have said it better my self...
Been with Sprint now for 9 years and have no complaints, they are like brandy - only getting better with age...
EVO is by far the best phone out there and Sprint is (IMO) by far the best carrier out there...
wdfowty said:
I've been getting fed up with T-Mobile lately, the coverage at my house is limited, if not non-existent.
I was wondering if anyone would care to share their experiences with Sprint's network (4g speeds/coverage, reliability, etc). Also, experiences with the Evo itself (battery life, durabilty, accessory quality/quantity, etc)
I'm currently using a Nexus One, if that makes a difference.
Thanks!
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hey i had tmobile< i had the blackberry 9700 and an unlocked iphone i loved the phones but the coverage was horrible inside buildings, i went to best buy and got an evo on a temp number and carried both my phones around and sprint was gret in buildings or where ever i went u should go get the evo and test like i did
jesziicuh said:
U can download map viewer from the market check the Sprint 4g coverage
And as for battery life it was not until I rooted that I felt I was getting the most out of it my battery life dramatically changed
And I've had nothing but a good experience I came from a moment so honestly tht was not the best Android experience so this phone have to say im really surprised by this device and what it can do if u have played around with one it really is not the same as owning it and since Sprint has the 3o day money back guarantee u should defin try itout and see if its for u
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Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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So, you came in here SOLELY to flame that kid? Hahaha
@everyone else: Thanks! All great info. Once I get the cash together I'll test it out for sure.
thetakara said:
Oh wow. -.-
Not one period in all of the rambling and misspellings/retarded text speak. Please act like you have an education. kthnx.
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Hey no reason to be grumpy
I type quick used to jus doing tht way
And I honestly think ignite have nothing nice to say Dnt say it
But hey I guess it take one to kno one
Have a nice night kthnks
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So, you came in here SOLELY to flame that kid? Hahaha
@everyone else: Thanks! All great info. Once I get the cash together I'll test it out for sure.
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Yea a lot of grumpy people on here but also a lot of nice people who can actually offer help instead of nasty remarks blah but way r u gonna do any way good luck and happy holidays
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Not having a signal at home isn't an issue if you're with Sprint. When my wife and I moved into our new house back in May, we found out a little too late that our house was in a dead zone and there was absolutely no signal inside on any carrier. We had to step outside to make a call or send a text. After a couple months, I called Sprint and told them what was up. Without question, they offered me a free Airave. No equipment cost, no monthly charges. All they asked was that I send it back to them if I ever leave Sprint in the future. We both get full signal in every room of the house now.
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Not having a signal at home isn't an issue if you're with Sprint. When my wife and I moved into our new house back in May, we found out a little too late that our house was in a dead zone and there was absolutely no signal inside on any carrier. We had to step outside to make a call or send a text. After a couple months, I called Sprint and told them what was up. Without question, they offered me a free Airave. No equipment cost, no monthly charges. All they asked was that I send it back to them if I ever leave Sprint in the future. We both get full signal in every room of the house now.
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O wow really I'm kinda in a similar situation jus moved to a new area like 3 months ago and I get zero reception unless I'm near a window and hanging out of it lol guess ill have to call sprint
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jesziicuh said:
O wow really I'm kinda in a similar situation jus moved to a new area like 3 months ago and I get zero reception unless I'm near a window and hanging out of it lol guess ill have to call sprint
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Yeah, I was pretty surprised. I didn't have to beg, argue, or demand anything. As soon as I told them what was up, the dude just asked if it would be okay if they sent me one for free. Uh... yeah, that's okay with me! lol
I'm in an area far from 4G coverage (Southern Illinois) but after 10 years with Sprint I've been nothing but pleased. I've gotten free upgrades, free features, and all sorts of perks from some very helpful customer service people. On top of that I've never had a billing issue (unlike nearly everyone else I know on a certain other network). The only issue I have is I don't particularly care for their website, but that's just me.
As for the EVO, I upgrade from the Hero two weeks ago and I LOVE it. I definitely don't regret getting it.
Oh, another thing I like about Sprint: When I call customer service, 9 times out of 10 I'm connected to somebody in CONUS and not someone with English as a 3rd language. lol

[Q] What about ATT Phone?

So what is the best choice to keep stock Android on ATT? I am happy with Nexus 1 now, but what about the future. Seems like every Nexus developer is leaning toward T Mobile.
P. C.
They will consider AT&T when AT&T stops butchering Android by removing stock features.
There is actually no foreseeable stock Android phones for AT&T.
The best chance is sometime Q1 2011, the Nexus S could possibly be released with AT&T 3G bands.
The only thing AT&T is interested in doing with Android currently is figuring out ways you can pay them more money in the Android Market.
The Nexus One and the Bell Desire Z (NAM) are the two top Android phones for AT&T. The Desire Z runs Sense though.
ATT
So I guess we use the N1 forever.
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So I guess we use the N1 forever.
P.C.
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I'm contemplating switching providers. I have no issues with their service and everyone I know uses them so it's a hard choice for me, but this lack of any good android options is really starting to piss me off. Every time you hear about an android device coming to att it's always some low end crap. The captivate is their best current option, but it feels cheap and it's already showing the tell tale signs of samsung and att leaving it in the dust.
I want to switch providers. I was blinded by the iPhones awesome reception and when i first got the nexus one half a year back, i thought it had worst reception compared to iphone (3gs, i also had edge 3 years back). Then apple said "Oh ya, we got the equation" wrong and now their reception is worse! I hate AT&T. I can have full bars sometimes but when that only leaves me hardly any connection, what good is it.
I've used my friends Incredible on Verizon and i'm very happy with its load speed. Right now, I'm gonna hold on to my Nexus one on AT&T. I want to switch my family over to another company but not sure where yet, waiting on a cool phone. Nexus S didn't stand out too much, with a lack of sd slot, i wouldn't have enough memory!
Plus, I want to see more tablet next year with the Nvidia chip. That'll probably be my next purchase!
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I'm contemplating switching providers. I have no issues with their service and everyone I know uses them so it's a hard choice for me, but this lack of any good android options is really starting to piss me off. Every time you hear about an android device coming to att it's always some low end crap. The captivate is their best current option, but it feels cheap and it's already showing the tell tale signs of samsung and att leaving it in the dust.
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This is my dilemma as well. I get fantastic coverage and VERY fast data(3.50 down, 1.28 up) in my city(as well as everywhere I go), but I am also tired of not getting any decent Android devices. I've been with ATT for ten years and I'm about ready to walk away...even from grandfathered unlimited data. The only thing keeping me here is the unlimited data and the wifi hotspot/tethering abilities of the N1. If my N1 were to crap out, I'm gone to Verizon. I can get fast data, great coverage AND a nice choice in Android devices from them.

Prospective Buyer Questions

Hey guys I had a few questions hoping you can help me with.
Right Now i have a Galaxy Nexus with VZ and im sitting on an upgrade, looking to purchase the VZW Note 3 as the successor to my G-Nex.
1) Does anyone know of any deals happening on them currently? So far the best price ive found on upgrade was $249.99 (Amazon) - If there are going to be some Black Friday deals going on where I can get it cheaper (maybe 199.95?) Then Ill wait the extra few weeks, but if people think its pretty set in stone right now, then ill just go ahead and order it
2) Is the VZW Note 3 a Global Phone? Im planning a trip to Europe this summer and curious if my phone will work there.. I probably need to get an international SIM card or something from VZW for it to work right?
3) How is the Signal Quality? My G-Nexus Signal SUCKS, my GFs HTC Phone blows mine out of the water when it comes to signal strength and overall general reception, just curious if the Note 3 has better Radios then previous Samsung Phones.,. I thought the general consensus is the Samsung Phones have the worst reception, Moto Phones have the best, and HTC falls in the middle between the two
4) I consider myself a power user ---> moderate / heavy usage. I know all the reviews say Battery life is great but whats the real world expectation with these? Will i get a full day of use out of it or will I be charging it at 8 aclock at night? I know the battery on my G-Nex was so bad that I always kept half the stuff turned off, brightness to a minimum and even put a plain black background on my phone to conserve energy and still dont get a full day out of it
5) What do you NOT like about the phone? That you may not of known coming into it
Thanks Guys! Oh and BTW have they officially said the N3 will be getting 4.4 or any timeframes for that release??
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Hey guys I had a few questions hoping you can help me with.
Right Now i have a Galaxy Nexus with VZ and im sitting on an upgrade, looking to purchase the VZW Note 3 as the successor to my G-Nex.
1) Does anyone know of any deals happening on them currently? So far the best price ive found on upgrade was $249.99 (Amazon) - If there are going to be some Black Friday deals going on where I can get it cheaper (maybe 199.95?) Then Ill wait the extra few weeks, but if people think its pretty set in stone right now, then ill just go ahead and order it
2) Is the VZW Note 3 a Global Phone? Im planning a trip to Europe this summer and curious if my phone will work there.. I probably need to get an international SIM card or something from VZW for it to work right?
3) How is the Signal Quality? My G-Nexus Signal SUCKS, my GFs HTC Phone blows mine out of the water when it comes to signal strength and overall general reception, just curious if the Note 3 has better Radios then previous Samsung Phones.,. I thought the general consensus is the Samsung Phones have the worst reception, Moto Phones have the best, and HTC falls in the middle between the two
4) I consider myself a power user ---> moderate / heavy usage. I know all the reviews say Battery life is great but whats the real world expectation with these? Will i get a full day of use out of it or will I be charging it at 8 aclock at night? I know the battery on my G-Nex was so bad that I always kept half the stuff turned off, brightness to a minimum and even put a plain black background on my phone to conserve energy and still dont get a full day out of it
5) What do you NOT like about the phone? That you may not of known coming into it
Thanks Guys! Oh and BTW have they officially said the N3 will be getting 4.4 or any timeframes for that release??
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Well first off wrong section....
But now going into what you asked:
1. I have heard rummors that Best Buy and Radio Shack will be having specials for black friday...not sure of the price but it might be a good idea to research it.
2. Yes the Note3 is a global phone...and can used since it works with a sim card...btw i believe that all Verizon LTE phones are unlocked.
3. The Signal quality i think atleast on my device very good...then again i live in a big city...Miami.
4. The Note3 has a 3200 milli amp battery, which is considerable bigger then the GNex. That said im a heavy user always on the phone doing something i get about 15hrs, so yes the battery should last for you.
5. Most of the annoying things on the phone have been fixed by our Great Developers.
As for the Note3 getting the 4.4 KitKat update that would be a yes but as of now there is no set date....on a side note it would be really funny to see that Verizons Flag Ship Samsung device not getting 4.4. And if that is the case dont worry we usually get those too..
Welcome to the Best Place for Android Dev...!!!!!
I had a Galaxy Nexus and the biggest complaint was battery life. I had 3 batteries I carried daily.
This phone has worlds better battery life but the mod community is growing it is nowhere near the GNex.
Yeah im running 4.4 on my G-Nex right now, I love the features but its buggy and even on older roms like 4.3.1 and all that the battery life is horrendous - If i take it off the charget at 8 AM i have it plugged in at 6 that night or its dead and thats not even using it like crazy
Also the only deals I see (including Radio Shack) are for new line activations, nothing for regular line upgrades
I made the mistake of getting an 16gig iPhone 5S on launch day but just traded a guy on Craigslist for a like new Note 3 with spigen neo case. Verizon even allowed me to add total insurance coverage which shocked me being that its a Craigslist phone.
But the best deal in my opinion was the 30% verizon coupon that was active for a few days after release. Some people got the phone for $100 when they selected in store pickup. I'm sitting there ready to throw the 5S against the wall because I was so upset.
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Joe92T said:
Hey guys I had a few questions hoping you can help me with.
Right Now i have a Galaxy Nexus with VZ and im sitting on an upgrade, looking to purchase the VZW Note 3 as the successor to my G-Nex.
1) Does anyone know of any deals happening on them currently? So far the best price ive found on upgrade was $249.99 (Amazon) - If there are going to be some Black Friday deals going on where I can get it cheaper (maybe 199.95?) Then Ill wait the extra few weeks, but if people think its pretty set in stone right now, then ill just go ahead and order it
2) Is the VZW Note 3 a Global Phone? Im planning a trip to Europe this summer and curious if my phone will work there.. I probably need to get an international SIM card or something from VZW for it to work right?
3) How is the Signal Quality? My G-Nexus Signal SUCKS, my GFs HTC Phone blows mine out of the water when it comes to signal strength and overall general reception, just curious if the Note 3 has better Radios then previous Samsung Phones.,. I thought the general consensus is the Samsung Phones have the worst reception, Moto Phones have the best, and HTC falls in the middle between the two
4) I consider myself a power user ---> moderate / heavy usage. I know all the reviews say Battery life is great but whats the real world expectation with these? Will i get a full day of use out of it or will I be charging it at 8 aclock at night? I know the battery on my G-Nex was so bad that I always kept half the stuff turned off, brightness to a minimum and even put a plain black background on my phone to conserve energy and still dont get a full day out of it
5) What do you NOT like about the phone? That you may not of known coming into it
Thanks Guys! Oh and BTW have they officially said the N3 will be getting 4.4 or any timeframes for that release??
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I upgraded from a galaxy Nexus so hopefully I can help you out.
1 radio shack is supposed to have some good black Friday deals plus they will give you money for devices.
2. The note 3 is a global phone. I have an att note 2 and my sim will work with data included just by adjusting the proper apn settings.
3. The note 3 must have the same antennas as the Nexus because it's just as bad as my Nexus. I'm a bus driver so I travel a lot. I have a Motorola bionic which sees 4g often but the note 3 will be in 3g it's very frustrating. And in big cities Verizon is horrible because they have more users being the largest wireless provider and all.
4. This phones battery is amazing. The standby time is even better it won't budge.
5. I just hate the fact that the antennas suck. They really do.
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Best thing to do is go ahead and purchase one and play around with it for 14 days. Battery life will vary, every person uses their phone differently. Also signal will vary depending upon your location. Some people say signal/speed is better, some say worse. Black Friday is around the corner and you can probably get the price matched if the price does go down. Now, go ahead and grab one and enjoy all this Note 3 goodness!
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3. The note 3 must have the same antennas as the Nexus because it's just as bad as my Nexus. I'm a bus driver so I travel a lot. I have a Motorola bionic which sees 4g often but the note 3 will be in 3g it's very frustrating. And in big cities Verizon is horrible because they have more users being the largest wireless provider and all.
5. I just hate the fact that the antennas suck. They really do.
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Whaaaaat? I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus too, and it was never able to hold an LTE signal throughout my house.It would intermittently connect to LTE if I was next to a window on one side of my house, but that was it. Other places in my house it would drop to 3G signal that it could barely hold on to.
My new Note 3 holds an LTE signal throughout my house and still has great call quality while I hold the phone inside my clothes dryer (yes that's the worst signal spot in my house and I like to test phones by calling my landline while the phone is in the dryer.)
I think you must have a bad one because the radio in the Note 3 is miles ahead of anything else I've ever used.
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Whaaaaat? I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus too, and it was never able to hold an LTE signal throughout my house.It would intermittently connect to LTE if I was next to a window on one side of my house, but that was it. Other places in my house it would drop to 3G signal that it could barely hold on to.
My new Note 3 holds an LTE signal throughout my house and still has great call quality while I hold the phone inside my clothes dryer (yes that's the worst signal spot in my house and I like to test phones by calling my landline while the phone is in the dryer.)
I think you must have a bad one because the radio in the Note 3 is miles ahead of anything else I've ever used.
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As I stated I travel a lot. Do I think it's a better phone than the Nexus absolutely. But it doesn't hold a candle to the bionic's signal and that's a 2 to 3 year old phone. I constantly see the bionic holding a strong signal and the note 3 is on 3g. My Nexus was the same way.
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As I stated I travel a lot. Do I think it's a better phone than the Nexus absolutely. But it doesn't hold a candle to the bionic's signal and that's a 2 to 3 year old phone. I constantly see the bionic holding a strong signal and the note 3 is on 3g. My Nexus was the same way.
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Hmm I guess I should try a bionic then just for kicks, lol.
But yeah it is true that moto is known for great radios so I can't really argue.
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Hmm I guess I should try a bionic then just for kicks, lol.
But yeah it is true that moto is known for great radios so I can't really argue.
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Just don't think I'll be going Samsung again. Antennas should be the most important thing id think.
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Just don't think I'll be going Samsung again. Antennas should be the most important thing id think.
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I don't know why people are complaining about antennas. Coming from the Gnex, the antennas on this baby are above and beyond. Bsmith you likely have a defective radio in your N3, or simply a subpar radio. Logically it would have to be that because everyone that owns a N3 isn't complaining about reception (myself included).
To the OP - getting this phone is a no brainer, coming from ANY phone. I've never in my life experienced battery life/screen on time like this (I've gotten 8+ hours screen on time on a single charge). It also flies in every way, and you just can't go wrong with 3GB of RAM and the multitude of multitasking options at your fingertips. Multitasking is very important to me, and there's no other phone that can do it like this. For years I've felt the devices and software I've had just didn't get it quite right. Finally they have. Multi-window and pen window are ingenious, and they work without a single hiccup or stutter. This thing is a monster.
And if I went into every useful setting and tweak on the STOCK rom (out of the box), I could go on for hours. Add to all that the s-pen with all its features (I'm an artist so I'm in love with it), and the N3 is the champion among champions.
I will literally never get another brand/model. When the N4 comes out, I'll be the first in line. I've never been this impressed with a mobile device.

Verizon Note 3 Signal - Is it that bad? POLL

So i have the chance to pick up a N3 today, but I have heard there are issues with signal on the device. How bad is it? I talked to my buddy with one the other day and he was cutting in and out. Is this a major issue with them overall? Thanks
My signal is superb. Best phone signal ive ever had are this Note 3 and the S4 before it
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I see it this way...many ppl report issues with WiFi in particular but it's an issue with router and/or the channel that's being used. Matching the channel via the app Wifi Analyzer can assist with quickly fixing said issue
However, I voted yes to your poll because 4G signal works, but not consistently when on the train where AT&T would be a better network(at least with my Note 2) over the course of a 30 mile commute. This is in the Philadelphia area where I live, might be regional
Bottom line, I'm switching from Verizon to AT&T asap because it's cheaper, more reliable across town, and faster speedtest.net results in Phila area
Experience that applies
I'm in Ohio too (Go Bucks!) and I purchased 2 Galaxy Note 3s at the same time. Mine is phenomenal! The best cell reception of any phone I've ever seen. I truly can't go on enough about how this phone is the best I've seen out of about 15 phones.
My wife's phone is the opposite. She has had issues from day one. I just took her phone back to the Samsung reps at Best Buy Monday and they 'reflashed' the factory ROM from a laptop while I waited. The Rep, who spent most of the time I was there asking me questions about the N3, didn't seem like he knew that much about the phone. He said he's seen a handful of N3's come back and reflashing the factory rom seems to fix it. He did say that they were all the Verizon version. I don't trust too much of what he said, as I said, he clearly knew less about the phone and phones in general than I did.
Now having said all that. His flash did not fix the problem. We've been in multiple places where my wife's phone cannot make or receive calls while mine standing next to her has no issues. I truly believed it to be a software issue because it will show the same signal strength as mine. Or darn near the same. The last time I checked, mine was -93dBm while hers was -95dBm. Mine would call out, hers would not.
The Samsung Rep told me to bring it back in and they're going to swap it out as a defective product. Maybe it's because hers is the white model and mine is the black? Just kidding of course... but I am going to ask for her to get the rose gold model instead of the white, just because she's girlie and will like it.
Having said all this... I would not hesitate to recommend this phone to anyone and everyone. I do so on a regular basis. I believe this to be an unusual situation, not the norm. I think you should get it and if you notice any troubles, take it back and make them work it out. The phone is THAT good that it's worth the risk of possible hassle to get it right.
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I'm in Ohio too (Go Bucks!) and I purchased 2 Galaxy Note 3s at the same time. Mine is phenomenal! The best cell reception of any phone I've ever seen. I truly can't go on enough about how this phone is the best I've seen out of about 15 phones.
My wife's phone is the opposite. She has had issues from day one. I just took her phone back to the Samsung reps at Best Buy Monday and they 'reflashed' the factory ROM from a laptop while I waited. The Rep, who spent most of the time I was there asking me questions about the N3, didn't seem like he knew that much about the phone. He said he's seen a handful of N3's come back and reflashing the factory rom seems to fix it. He did say that they were all the Verizon version. I don't trust too much of what he said, as I said, he clearly knew less about the phone and phones in general than I did.
Now having said all that. His flash did not fix the problem. We've been in multiple places where my wife's phone cannot make or receive calls while mine standing next to her has no issues. I truly believed it to be a software issue because it will show the same signal strength as mine. Or darn near the same. The last time I checked, mine was -93dBm while hers was -95dBm. Mine would call out, hers would not.
The Samsung Rep told me to bring it back in and they're going to swap it out as a defective product. Maybe it's because hers is the white model and mine is the black? Just kidding of course... but I am going to ask for her to get the rose gold model instead of the white, just because she's girlie and will like it.
Having said all this... I would not hesitate to recommend this phone to anyone and everyone. I do so on a regular basis. I believe this to be an unusual situation, not the norm. I think you should get it and if you notice any troubles, take it back and make them work it out. The phone is THAT good that it's worth the risk of possible hassle to get it right.
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Thanks for the detailed response. My only issue here is Im trading my LG G2 for the N3 (craigslist), so it wont be just as easy as walking into the store and swapping it out. Which is what has me worried. G2 is an awesome phone, just ready to have a new toy until the S5 drops.
jmill75 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. My only issue here is Im trading my LG G2 for the N3 (craigslist), so it wont be just as easy as walking into the store and swapping it out. Which is what has me worried. G2 is an awesome phone, just ready to have a new toy until the S5 drops.
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Just get the insurance and you should be fine. Good luck!
jmill75 said:
Thanks for the detailed response. My only issue here is Im trading my LG G2 for the N3 (craigslist), so it wont be just as easy as walking into the store and swapping it out. Which is what has me worried. G2 is an awesome phone, just ready to have a new toy until the S5 drops.
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I would encourage you to do the trade right in the Verizon store, even if Big Red won't get a dime. Here's why:
- both parties can get the IMEIs checked by Verizon to make sure that they are clean
- both parties can transfer the other phone immediately to their own account.
There have been a couple incidents reported here where folks bought phones off of craigslist, and - failing to register the phone to their account - later found their phones reported stolen. (Meaning, they suddenly had a worthless deactivated phone) That can only happen out of your control if you don't have it registered to your account.
Not only that, but if your counterparty refuses to meet you in a Verizon store, you will know that something is not square.
Good luck
Coming fomr a Verizon Galaxy Nexus in a good 4G coverage area, band 4, I have zero issues. In fact my speeds over 4G increased significantly compared to my Galaxy Nexus, and WiFi is as fast as ever.
Like any phone Your Mileage Will Vary, but I'd recommend this phone to anyone, even if I didn't like them, it's that good.
Signal is nearly always strong and phone is always fast!
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Big Cam said:
Coming fomr a Verizon Galaxy Nexus in a good 4G coverage area, band 4, I have zero issues. In fact my speeds over 4G increased significantly compared to my Galaxy Nexus, and WiFi is as fast as ever.
Like any phone Your Mileage Will Vary, but I'd recommend this phone to anyone, even if I didn't like them, it's that good.
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Yes but that phone was a big turd
Worst phone for reception/battery EVER.
jmill75 said:
Yes but that phone was a big turd
Worst phone for reception/battery EVER.
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I have never heard that. I loved the phone, Pure Android is the way to go for Rooting and Romming, but the battery life was SOOOO bad. I just assumed that was the way it was.
The Note 3 is leaps and bounds over the Galaxy Nexus. I'm happy you told me that, now I don't feel like I was wrong for *****ing about it. :laugh:
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Yes but that phone was a big turd
Worst phone for reception/battery EVER.
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I came to the N3 from that phone too. I LOVED that phone for the ease of rooting/flashing... but you're right. Both battery and reception was terrible.
My phone, data and WIFI are all good with this phone. I had a Droid Maxx before this and the WIFI was terrible on that. Other than the locked bootloader this phone is the best on my opinion. I had a Nokia 822, Nokia 928, Razr M, S3 and a Razr Maxx all within the last year and the N3 kills them all. I don't want to turn this into a comparison thread but that's my experience and opinion.
Worst phone reception I have ever had on a phone. I barely get signal anywhere. Have a few dropped calls everyday. Never expected this from Samsung. I got the phone on release day and at first I thought it was me, but even after the updates, I absolutely hate the reception. I'm usually always around the -110 to -120 mark.
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vikramjatt11 said:
Worst phone reception I have ever had on a phone. I barely get signal anywhere. Have a few dropped calls everyday. Never expected this from Samsung. I got the phone on release day and at first I thought it was me, but even after the updates, I absolutely hate the reception. I'm usually always around the -110 to -120 mark.
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Have you tried getting it replaced? I'm guessing you're probably beyond the warranty period, but if you have insurance you can probably get it swapped out. Sounds like that is not the norm...
The 30GB of data I pulled last month was problematic.
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