My new Froyo theory - Vibrant General

Its been 2 months here very shortly and we have no GPS fix or any word on froyo. FROYO has been out since may, the n1 has it, evolution has it, incredible, d2, dx soon, g2 etc. But no Samsung galaxy or even rumor on when we should get it.
The GPS fix was promissed this month, and well its halfway over I just don't see within the next two weeks a GPS fix being rolled out. Of course also no word on froyoz and not only that but CM6.1 may or may not even support our sgs ..
Sooooo, if there is no froyo or atleast a GPS fix by Oct 8th (rumored g2 release date) I'm selling this damn thing on Craigslist and getting a g2...
I love the vibrant way more than the g2 but I'm sure its gps will work and its coming with stock 2.2.
Wtf Samsung, get your act together. I heard rumors about slow updates but wow. At this time now the evolution had cm6 and a real rom from HTC/Google.
Anyways, hurry up Sammy or I'm going back to htc with the g2.
Edit: lets not be stupid either, if Samsung could fix this GPS issue, it would be fixed by now and the epic as they said would work would work properly ...
I've lost all faith on a software issue and believe its hardware. Why else would every version be wacked.
Just in case though I'm giving them till the g2.

smashpunks said:
Its been 2 months here very shortly and we have no GPS fix or any word on froyo. FROYO has been out since may, the n1 has it, evolution has it, incredible, d2, dx soon, g2 etc. But no Samsung galaxy or even rumor on when we should get it.
The GPS fix was promissed this month, and well its halfway over I just don't see within the next two weeks a GPS fix being rolled out. Of course also no word on froyoz and not only that but CM6.1 may or may not even support our sgs ..
Sooooo, if there is no froyo or atleast a GPS fix by Oct 8th (rumored g2 release date) I'm selling this damn thing on Craigslist and getting a g2...
I love the vibrant way more than the g2 but I'm sure its gps will work and its coming with stock 2.2.
Wtf Samsung, get your act together. I heard rumors about slow updates but wow. At this time now the evolution had cm6 and a real rom from HTC/Google.
Anyways, hurry up Sammy or I'm going back to htc with the g2.
Edit: lets not be stupid either, if Samsung could fix this GPS issue, it would be fixed by now and the epic as they said would work would work properly ...
I've lost all faith on a software issue and believe its hardware. Why else would every version be wacked.
Just in case though I'm giving them till the g2.
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question , do you really think Samsung comes to XDA and reads these ?

ppl cluttering my forum lulz

rsfaze said:
question , do you really think Samsung comes to XDA and reads these ?
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Answer: no, why would I think that?
Question: why such a dumb question?

scrizz said:
ppl cluttering my forum lulz
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Well just remember this post when there's no GPS fix or froyo out when there's yet another released phone running froyo.

Nice theory.
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The thing is... These half assed threats of switching to a different phone vendor are pretty lame. No one (including samsung, HTC and google) cares what phone you have. Keep the vibrant, dont keep the vibrant. Who cares.
When you got on your rant what were you setting out to accomplish? Oh...thats right. Nothing.
So here is an idea. If you are an unhappy customer and feel the company you bought your phone from. The same company that you did your reasearch on and accepted the risk the phone bring updated wouldnt fit into your time frame. Use your powers of free will and go.but something else.
Good day sir.

The samsung galaxy s i9000 has froyo.

The thing I don't understand is everyone is having lag and gps issues but me. I have no lag at all. I use my gps to navigate daily, plus I use it for geocaching and always come within 10 feet of the cache. I just don't get it.

NoDataFound said:
The thing is... These half assed threats of switching to a different phone vendor are pretty lame. No one (including samsung, HTC and google) cares what phone you have. Keep the vibrant, dont keep the vibrant. Who cares.
When you got on your rant what were you setting out to accomplish? Oh...thats right. Nothing.
So here is an idea. If you are an unhappy customer and feel the company you bought your phone from. The same company that you did your reasearch on and accepted the risk the phone bring updated wouldnt fit into your time frame. Use your powers of free will and go.but something else.
Good day sir.
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amen to that...

NoDataFound said:
The thing is... These half assed threats of switching to a different phone vendor are pretty lame. No one (including samsung, HTC and google) cares what phone you have. Keep the vibrant, dont keep the vibrant. Who cares.
When you got on your rant what were you setting out to accomplish? Oh...thats right. Nothing.
PSo here is an idea. If you are an unhappy customer and feel the company you bought your phone from. The same company that you did your reasearch on and accepted the risk the phone bring updated wouldnt fit into your time frame. Use your powers of free will and go.but something else.
Good day sir.
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What's lame is you ranting In my topic about what I make a thread about. Obviously you cared and it made enough of a impact on you to reply . I have every right to ***** and you will see more of it from others for the rest of your life. So before you act lime a preacher and try and change the world/forum, think again, your post is as washed up as this supposed topic your saying.
I stand by my topic, we should all be frustrated for Samsung not fixing our GPS or atleast saying its completely fubared. Froyo, where's froyo? I've got valid gripes and *****es, that's what forums are for and I think many agree things are getting to near and we don't see no light at the end of the tunnel.
Yes Samsung should care on their Rep cause in the end that's what gets them a returning customer.
I was all for this phone and backing up waiting, but common were going on a quarter of a year withouwfixes or froyo, some people don't but have a phone for 6 months, 3 of that 6 there waiting like crackheads for a bag?
Please no rude responses I have a valid gripe
Good day ma'am

Couldnt you rant in the countless other "where is froyo" threads?
Why do you feel the need to make a new thread for something like this?
I'm all for stateing your opinion but atleast do it in an already existing thread about the exact same thing.
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Trev420 said:
Couldnt you rant in the countless other "where is froyo" threads?
Why do you feel the need to make a new thread for something like this?
I'm all for stateing your opinion but atleast do it in an already existing thread about the exact same thing.
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Why did you open this thread then if there's others?
Stop acting like forum police
Really this thread is a watch. Froyo nor gps fix will see this phone withing 1 month... so for those wanting to buy this phone for those reasons and expecting a fix this month, think again.
THERE WILL BE NO, I SAY AGAIN NO GPS FIX OR FROYO THIS MONTH OR EVEN SHORTLY AFTER. THAT IS WHY I WILL BE GETTI G A G2. I'd advise anyone needing GPS or froyo to find a new phone. Samsung isn't gonna do **** anytime soon... yes that's negative but I'm a realist, it's not gonna happen.

I personally don't care if there's "yet another thread" about this. I understand people are pissed (I get pissed too). Yeah, Sammy doesn't care whether we are happy or not - they are a huge multinational corporation half a world away. There are so many layers between us and their management it's not even funny. Our concerns get lost in a call log of a customer service department or in a product manager's inbox of automated reports. Plus, even if they did read and have concern about these issues, it's too late. Usually it's cheaper for them to take these issues and fix them in the next iteration of the product than to re-tool the factory or make a change on the line. A massive corporation like Samsung is all about efficiency and not stopping production. Our only hope is a software fix or, by the grace of God, a recall if the problem is so bad it requires legal action.
I agree with the poster that says we can just walk away and get a different phone or whatever. However, some of us paid $500 for this thing and it's a significant investment to buy yet another phone. Yeah we can eBay it (which is what I would do). Or for others it's just a disappointment because ON-PAPER this is the "perfect phone". I'm a little of both. I love this phone - the form factor, the screen, the UI, etc - but it's not operating as advertised. If the phone would work as intended it would be my perfect phone. That's what many of us are holding out hope for. We are frustrated and want a fix, not a new phone.
I had to get rid of my Evo because of horrendous QC problem (mine was literally coming apart). It was almost heartbreaking because I waited so long for that damn phone to come out. But once I got the Vibrant, the Evo was forgotten about - until the buzz wore off and the lag and GPS issue became a serious problem. OK, I'm done storytelling.
With over 2 weeks left in the month, let's hope Sammy pulls through and tries to save their reputation. I'll say this though - I will think VERY carefully next time I buy a Samsung phone.

smashpunks said:
What's lame is you ranting In my topic about what I make a thread about. Obviously you cared and it made enough of a impact on you to reply . I have every right to ***** and you will see more of it from others for the rest of your life. So before you act lime a preacher and try and change the world/forum, think again, your post is as washed up as this supposed topic your saying.
I stand by my topic, we should all be frustrated for Samsung not fixing our GPS or atleast saying its completely fubared. Froyo, where's froyo? I've got valid gripes and *****es, that's what forums are for and I think many agree things are getting to near and we don't see no light at the end of the tunnel.
Yes Samsung should care on their Rep cause in the end that's what gets them a returning customer.
I was all for this phone and backing up waiting, but common were going on a quarter of a year withouwfixes or froyo, some people don't but have a phone for 6 months, 3 of that 6 there waiting like crackheads for a bag?
Please no rude responses I have a valid gripe
Good day ma'am
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i agree i just talked to android about it. they said not anytime soon because 1 month ahead they get notified if they update would come to a certain phone or not. and she said there is nothing about 2.2 on vibrant. so we are ****ed..

You must be part of a forum gang.
If you are so unhappy with your phone do yourself and this forum are favor by returning it and get a phone with froyo.
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flameinthefire said:
i agree i just talked to android about it. they said not anytime soon because 1 month ahead they get notified if they update would come to a certain phone or not. and she said there is nothing about 2.2 on vibrant. so we are ****ed..
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That is strange, I talked to Samsung at the beginning of the month, they said when they dropped 2.2 for the International one, which has happened, they pushed the build to their "vendors" at the same time. So now it is in the hands of Tmo/ATT and such to finish their "customizing"(read "****ing up") of 2.2 before they push it out ...
Disclaimer: Samsung info may be bogus, but has as much chance as any other source to be accurate.

rbirg said:
You must be part of a forum gang.
If you are so unhappy with your phone do yourself and this forum are favor by returning it and get a phone with froyo.
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Yes exactly, Come oct 8th I will be getting a phone with froyo. I just don't want to have to play the sale my vibrant game, and miss the things I do love like the screen.
And why the heck no cm6 yet? Hell people bought them a vibrant just for us and still nothing...

Doesn't it seem at least a bit difficult to port Froyo to another phone as a side hobby?
Edit: let alone get the gps working too . Not like froyo is the be all end all fix for everyone's problems.
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rbirg said:
Doesn't it seem at least a bit difficult to port Froyo to another phone as a side hobby?
Edit: let alone get the gps working too . Not like froyo is the be all end all fix for everyone's problems.
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Hell the dam hd2 has froyo on it and its not even a android phone. What's going on with vibrant development.... unmarked maybe I should sell the vibrant and big 2 hd2s and put froyo on them and give my wife one.. lol
Sad that a non android phone has froyo but yet a 2 month old top of the line android phone is yet to even have a custom rom.. lmaooo.
I've supported this phone up till now. Now, I'm pissed. Sorry to upset some of you but this is utter crap.
If anything, anything give us a GPS fix.
Edit: also I have a n1 with froyo, were missing a lot without it..

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So tired of seeing

All the complaints about the EVO. I for one have no problems with it and I see all these whiners about everything wrong with theirs, take it back it it is bad. Stuff happens and it is not the end of the world.
I've read throught everyone's drama from sd card, to light leakage, screen lifting...etc.
I can say I must have got one that is perfect because not once do I have these issues.
If your phone is defective take it back......I think the majority of folks have not probs and the few that do you just got bunk units.....
No problems here
That is the problem with forums right? You only hear people talk about the bad stuff... there is no reason to post if nothing is going wrong. Do you go to a town hall meeting to say that nothing is wrong with your neighborhood?
75% of the posts are posted by the 5% of the people that have problems.
BTW... I am in the 95% that has little to no issues. Most of my issues are getting used to Android.
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All you have to do, is not read our complaints. You just stated that you read through them all yet nobody forced you to do so. Not reading something that bothers you on a forum devoted to discussing EVRYTHING having to do with a device, is even easier than just returning a phone. Some people have returned their Evos, only to get a 2nd and even a 3rd one, all having some or all of the same issues.
I purchased my phone at RadioShack on a new contract. If I return my phone right now then I'll need to start a new contract somewhere else and keeping my number is not 100% guaranteed since I've already ported it from another carrier. My number of 10 years matters more to me than any one phone. So right now I have a phone that keeps resetting along with the build issues and nobody in the LA area has any in stock to just go switch out.
No it’s not the end of the world and that why I'm not screaming this from my rooftop. I'm here on a forum devoted to this device, talking about this device. How on earth this could upset you or anyone else is beyond me.......If I switch to another device, I for one, DO want to read all the comments about that device; the good and bad.......
EDIT: Okay I could be wrong here but I’m guessing this is about all that silly Android vs. Apple kinda stuff? You know the don’t make Android look bad by talking about a bad experience. Guys! This is a forum to talk about the devices we use. We don’t know the number of bad Evos that are out here and so to say the number is 5% is just a guess based on what? For some of us it’s not a big deal, but for others, they have spent their hard earned dollars on what they hoped was a high end superphone and they have every right to come and “*****” about it having major issues as you have the right to ***** about them *****ing. Is this really the way Android using folks treat one another?!
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BTW... I am in the 95% that has little to no issues. Most of my issues are getting used to Android.
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Haha! +1 on that!
I have not had any complaints but then again if people dont post their complaints how will the rest of the people know that it is an existing issue? example: I had the Hero and the button was peeling, I thought it was me, but it was a defect.
I agree that many people post the same issues over and over and maybe there should be a sticky that shows current defects etc but until then I would not want to see the complaints disappear.
Oh I do have a complaint. Take a photo at size 300kb or higher and send mms. It shrinks it to 10kb to 20kb which is nearly icon size. See if I did not state this it would never get fixed. Apparently this is a Evo only issue and Sprint has gotten several complaints but until more people call and complain about it, it will be pushed under the rug.
Huge screen, 8 megapixel camera and sends itty bitty MMS pictures.
Sorry for raining on your parade, but we paid for the phone too. If we have issues with the device, we're more than welcome to point them out. The only way problems get fixed is when they get pointed out to the companies responsible.
I thought the same thing till my evo started having all the same issues reported. If HTC could make a product without major issues the forums would not be this way. I will never buy a HTC phone again. The screen lifting issue and screen touch issues pushed me over the edge. Your evo is not perfect. All evos have the touch screen issue. Test it out. Some say they dont have the issue but they are holding the phone or have it plugged in. Unplug your phone, set it down and try this without touching the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700612
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/
yea im getting alittle tired of the Anti-Evo trolls myself!!
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...
The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously there are bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some people in other threads sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in their front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
If you want the iphone, great get one. Nice device. This its an android forum don't expect much sympathy nor do most of us care what device you get.
psn1819 said:
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...
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Really? So let me get this straight: just because we notice something wrong with the device we paid hundreds of dollars for, we're 'anti-evo trolls'?. That's just moronic.
Why are some people trying so hard to come up with some reason with HTC's mistakes? It's their fault these errors exist, so it's them that need to fix it. They're just another company trying to take money from your pocket. They don't care how loyal they you are to them. In fact, it's even better because they know you'll buy their products no matter how faulty they are.
Also, hardware issues are NOT the only problems with the Evo. People are frequently pointing out software issues with the device, issues that will never be corrected by a simple exchange at the store.
Furthermore, I don't understand why everyone is suggesting an iPhone if one isn't happy with the Evo. You do know there are other Android phone manufacturers, right? Motorola comes to mind.
psn1819 said:
Ive been using HTC since i had the htc wizard and honestly it seems that everyone is overlooking all the Positives...if your looking for a phone that supposedly is the best ...and i use that term very loosely...go get a iphone..I love the Htc evo and frankly people need to stop hating and overcritizing this seriously awesome phone..i mean **** its been out for less than 2 week lol...
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I don't mean to be rude but dude! What do you and all the other happy Evo owners (people having no issues) not understand about the glass touch screen lifting up at the bottom for those of us complaining?! Press your fingers at the bottom of the screen, just below the home key. Try pinching the glas there and now just imagine if you will, that for some of us, the glass is moving up and down and now remains above the frame. Nevermind the light leaking out, I'm talking about the glass moving! And that should be okay with us and we shouldn't come to a Evo forum and talk about it? The logic!
Aridon said:
The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously there are bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some people in other threads sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in their front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
If you want the iphone, great get one. Nice device. This its an android forum don't expect much sympathy nor do most of us care what device you get.
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Ok smart guy lets see you fix the touch screen issue. I can return my evo 10 times but it wont fix the touch screen issue. Yes I can fix the screen lifting issue but should I have to?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/
Aridon said:
The main issue its people are dumb and would rather ***** than fix their problems. Obviously they ate bad units, this is to be expected. If you get one, it sucks, but take the ****ing thing back and get a new one. None in stock? Have sprint order you one.
No need to complain, fix the problem and get on with your lives.
Some of you sound like the engineer from htc is out front dumping salt in your front lawn spelling out screw you. This happens in every launch including the iphone. The genius bars are packed for a reason.
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I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion
First of all...my EVO is working 100% correctly. Thank god.
Second i believe that the people with issues have the right to say whats going on with their phones, like stated before...they paid for something that should work right out the box. I had the same issue with an old HD2 that was a POS out the box, yet everyone else was enjoying their phone. With that being said I think what should be done is XDA should have a section in the forums labeled "Complaints & Issues" so they can all be filtered in there. Like that if we ever need to find an issue, we know where to look AND it doesn't clutter the general area with people ranting about their "light leakage" problems...
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I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion
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Lol this makes no sense. Having screen lifting and touch screen issues are challenges that we should be prepared to deal with? Are you serious?
shep211 said:
I thought the same thing till my evo started having all the same issues reported. If HTC could make a product without major issues the forums would not be this way. I will never buy a HTC phone again. The screen lifting issue and screen touch issues pushed me over the edge. Your evo is not perfect. All evos have the touch screen issue. Test it out. Some say they dont have the issue but they are holding the phone or have it plugged in. Unplug your phone, set it down and try this without touching the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700612
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/
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I don't have this issue.
psn1819 said:
I couldnt agree more..its just that i feel like people are buying the evo and phones like it because its shiny and has bright gleeming colors lol..not thinking about everyday use and the fundamentals of these phones...its a phone meant to challenge us and sadly people are not preapred to deal with this lol..but thats my opinion
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No. Just stop. We don't pay hundreds of dollars to be 'challenged' by the device. We pay for the damned device to WORK! HTC is responsible for making sure the screen doesn't fall off the frame, the touch sensor isn't laggy, and that the wifi reception doesn't suck ass. Are you fixing the problems? No, so you have no right to say the phone is meant to challenge us.
Do you think we're brain dead idiots? We aren't people to be talked down to by people who think severe hardware and software issues are no big deal. We know why we're buying the Evo, and these issues weren't part of it. As a result, we're demanding they be fixed.
By your logic, I suppose you would pay five hundred dollars for an HTC Rubix Cube only because it 'challenges you'.
I'm so tired of posts like these. "I like mine. If someone other than me doesn't like theirs then there must be something wrong with them."

Pass the word to sprint that we are unhappy!

I made a nice call to *2 this evening, talked to a nice rep and kindly asked them to pass the word along to whoever they can that we are very unhappy with the FPS cap and quality of the evo. I wasn't complaining to them, just asked them to push it up the channels so maybe sprint will put some pressure on HTC to make things right.
If we all do the same, maybe sprint will get the message.
LOL, you spoke to a front line rep? Good luck with that.
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LOL, you spoke to a front line rep? Good luck with that.
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one person isn't going to make a difference, but if more people call in then someone is going to notice. Even if I did talk to the garbage disposal.
am pretty happy with my evo but the cap sucks tho lol
I just ended up returning my device. Not sure if I should let them know why though.
I just ended up returning my device. Not sure if I should let them know why though.
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How does the return process work, assuming you bought it from Sprint
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How does the return process work, assuming you bought it from Sprint
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I actually bought it from Wirefly. I just had to get an RA number within 14 days of activating it then I had to ship it back with all the original packaging.
Then I spoke with Sprint chat to put a note on my account to revert me back to my old plan and old contract.
What cap are you guys referring to, and what's so wrong with the EVO? I'm loving mine!
I might call if I was unhappy with the EVO... as it stands though, I love this phone, so no reason to complain here.
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I made a nice call to *2 this evening, talked to a nice rep and kindly asked them to pass the word along to whoever they can that we are very unhappy with the FPS cap and quality of the evo. I wasn't complaining to them, just asked them to push it up the channels so maybe sprint will put some pressure on HTC to make things right.
If we all do the same, maybe sprint will get the message.
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There should be an effective way to communicate with HTC on its issues. Even their forums don't seem all that effective, I'd like to see some official response from HTC as well:
Popular discussions & Product Support:
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/94.aspx?tab=support&Sort=Active&PageIndex=1
http://www.htc.com/us/products/evo-sprint?view=1-1&sort=0
http://www.htc.com/us/support/evo-sprint/help/
I played with an EVO for another couple hours the other day but don't feel compelled to buy one until 2.2 & Wi-Fi fix etc..& if they don't respond to market pressures it will only make the iPhone 4 seem more worth the compromise of Apple's constraints..
Ideas on more effective communication with HTC, what say you..?
they still arent gonna do anything
I'd beg to differ, I was one of many who were suckered in to buying an Instinct. It was probably the most hyped, worst phone ever (iphone killer?). They made a number of updates for several months after release. I'm sure we'll see a few fixes.
What's wrong with the WiFi? I use mine all day, every day.
@op: Who's unhappy?
Every time a new phone comes out there is always a small group exclaiming loudly about how this or that needs to be fixed or it's a dealbreaker. Honestly, if someone had not reported the video cap 99% of users would never have noticed. All electronics have issues and won't be perfect. For those of you expecting everything that you buy to be perfect, I suggest you wake up and smell the coffee. It's not gonna happen. Go ahead a do a Google search. Every major phone release, from iPhones to Droids to WinMos to WebOSes, have all had issues. No amount of belly-aching from anyone is going fix it. It's just the nature of manufacturing.
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Kiraly said:
What's wrong with the WiFi? I use mine all day, every day.
@op: Who's unhappy?
Every time a new phone comes out there is always a small group exclaiming loudly about how this or that needs to be fixed or it's a dealbreaker. Honestly, if someone had not reported the video cap 99% of users would never have noticed. All electronics have issues and won't be perfect. For those of you expecting everything that you buy to be perfect, I suggest you wake up and smell the coffee. It's not gonna happen. Go ahead a do a Google search. Every major phone release, from iPhones to Droids to WinMos to WebOSes, have all had issues. No amount of belly-aching from anyone is going fix it. It's just the nature of manufacturing.
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Get out here please.
Any ****ing user can tell. Put an iphone and a htc evo 4g next to each other. Start scrolling on the home page, in a web browser... they will all think the iPhone is faster.
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I'd beg to differ, I was one of many who were suckered in to buying an Instinct. It was probably the most hyped, worst phone ever (iphone killer?). They made a number of updates for several months after release. I'm sure we'll see a few fixes.
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Oh good god please don't bring up that phone!
the cap thing does suck but bottom line is this is the best phone i have ever had.. having a fps cap isnt enough to get me to return my phone, i was happy with my phone before i heard of the cap so im not going to change how i feel about it now.. when i read all of the comments about ppl returning their phone because of the cap i honestly think they are returning it for other reasons and just using the cap as an excuse cause honestly i cant think of a better phone that sprint has at the moment... i read someone was claiming to boycott htc is they didnt fix that cap, that comment made me laugh!
What's wrong with the WiFi? I use mine all day, every day.
@op: Who's unhappy?
Every time a new phone comes out there is always a small group e
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Get out here please.
Any ****ing user can tell. Put an iphone and a htc evo 4g next to each other. Start scrolling on the home page, in a web browser... they will all think the iPhone is faster.
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Awesome, since you already know what any ****ing user will think, they won't have to bother themselves with deciding on a phone. They can just let you tell them what they will like.
Go buy an iPhone if you think it's so much better.
Kiraly said:
What's wrong with the WiFi? I use mine all day, every day.
@op: Who's unhappy?
Every time a new phone comes out there is always a small group exclaiming loudly about how this or that needs to be fixed or it's a dealbreaker. Honestly, if someone had not reported the video cap 99% of users would never have noticed. All electronics have issues and won't be perfect. For those of you expecting everything that you buy to be perfect, I suggest you wake up and smell the coffee. It's not gonna happen. Go ahead a do a Google search. Every major phone release, from iPhones to Droids to WinMos to WebOSes, have all had issues. No amount of belly-aching from anyone is going fix it. It's just the nature of manufacturing.
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http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/94/t/2929.aspx
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699459
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700678
Thanks for links....I guess my point was that WiFi works. People are complaining, but for most, WiFi works just fine. I use mine all over my house and my router is in my basement. I even get a connection outside my house. My signal bars don't show me a thing but it's still connected and fast. Some may have WiFi issues but they aren't Toyota recall type issues.

Bell recovery mode - fix from Samsung is on the way

Was just at the store aaking about exchanging my SGS, and the rep told me they were not allowed to exchange phones for lack of recovery anymore, since all curent models do it.
But, she also said that Samsung knows about the problem, that it is well documented, and that a rom update will be out soon to fix it. She said it may ship with the froyo update.
She semed to know what she was talking about and said this came from the Samsung rep, so I think it is legit
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i hope it's true.
that wil save a lot of trouble for a lot of people
brunes said:
Was just at the store aaking about exchanging my SGS, and the rep told me they were not allowed to exchange phones for lack of recovery anymore, since all curent models do it.
But, she also said that Samsung knows about the problem, that it is well documented, and that a rom update will be out soon to fix it. She said it may ship with the froyo update.
She semed to know what she was talking about and said this came from the Samsung rep, so I think it is legit
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With the rate that Samsung's dragging its feet for fixing other issues with the galaxy s line, I'm glad I just got a straight refund for mine last week. Waited quite a long time for the SGS to be available in Canada, but now I'm kind of wondering if I should wait longer for HTC's next super phone.
Think they really need to crank up their bug fix team. Many people got burnt by them not updating older phones, but with the number of sales they have with the S, it really could hurt their mobile sales for years to come if they let things slide.
Raise the BS flag!
i'll only move back to HTC if they include SAMOLED
Samsung is not dragging their feet have you looked at the x10 or the htc magic? Samsung has already put out a update for the bell model i9000m just 1 week after the phone came out.. thats fast.
TriC_101 said:
Samsung is not dragging their feet have you looked at the x10 or the htc magic? Samsung has already put out a update for the bell model i9000m just 1 week after the phone came out.. thats fast.
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Yes, the phone's been out for 1 week here in Canada, but in other parts of the world, it's been out for 2 months. And still no solid fix for the GPS. Go check out the GPS thread @ the phandoid forums to see how many times a phantom update was supposed to fix that issue.
I really did love my S, but I can live without a smart phone under all the issues are worked out. I'm a pessimist by nature, but I am hoping to be pleasantly surprised with all kinds of fixes and an on schedule froyo release.
PS, might want to look at the behold II, you know the phone that they said it would be upgraded to 2.x in their promotional video, then said 1.6 is as far as they were going to go just as the S was announced? heheh
Hmm that's weird.
I just exchanged mine this afternoon at Yonge and Dundas in Toronto and I wasn't even asked any questions. The manager said they were aware of the problem and that the new batch was working so it was exchanged on the spot. No mention of waiting for updates...
My new one works perfectly.
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Yes, the phone's been out for 1 week here in Canada, but in other parts of the world, it's been out for 2 months. And still no solid fix for the GPS. Go check out the GPS thread @ the phandoid forums to see how many times a phantom update was supposed to fix that issue.
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The GPS is fixed with the new ROM.... check the threads. I can attest to it it locks much faster and is much more accurate now.
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Hmm that's weird.
I just exchanged mine this afternoon at Yonge and Dundas in Toronto and I wasn't even asked any questions. The manager said they were aware of the problem and that the new batch was working so it was exchanged on the spot. No mention of waiting for updates...
y.
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To me, this just further confirms that a fix is coming. If it is fixed in new batches, then an updated SPL will be out shortly, or shipped with Froyo. It would not make sense to not ship it because it would just end up to more warranty returns due to bricked upgrades.
cool, hope they fix this soon!
just for the record, it's not just the Bell model
i9000 from other countries have having the same problem, and it's also not all the units, just some units
seems like they have some one sleeping in Samsung's QA department.
otherwise there is no explanation why some units of the same batch are fine, yet some units are missing the 3 buttons modes
And someone from futureshop was even arguing with me that bell did that to avoid rooting it 
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And someone from futureshop was even arguing with me that bell did that to avoid rooting it 
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LOL
some one tried to tell me the same on wireless wave
"samsung caught up on the problem, all new phones comes without it"
then i made them pull out a newer box, and ta da... it worked
the girl was left (speechless)
the first one i tried had an older date in the box
Any new updates about this fix?...
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Any new updates about this fix?...
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the 3 button fix is already in the DEV sub forum of SGS
find it and install it

When did it become OK to release a phone that isnt ready for prime time?

Evo had problems, instinct had LOTS of problems, hell my touch pro 2 NEVER ran 100% right.
Now here I am with an Epic, where the gps doesnt work unless I reboot the phone, uploading a 1.2 mb picture takes entirely too long on 3g as well as the phone studders like heck while it's SLOWLY uploading AND to top it all off - it's looking for a signal 50% or more of the time that I'm in a FULL SIGNAL area.
My question is this:
When did this become acceptable in our society? Why are people not being fired over this?????
What MOD EDIT tester didn't notice that 3g uploads are capped? And did they NEVER EVEN TRY TO USE THE GPS after a night or day of the phone being on?
Coming from the touch pro 2 and touch diamond I was SO READY for the Epic to ROCK MY WORLD.
The sad thing is IT WOULD HAVE if I didn't have to deal with these little annoying issues.
Turning airplane mode on and off everyday so my battery will last 12 hours..which still isnt that good.. Rebooting the phone before I plan to use it for ANYTHING navigation related.
What a sour taste I have in my mouth. I know apologists will say "it hasn't even been out a month" well guess what, I work in IT and if I rolled out something new and it didn't work CORRECTLY on the first day, someone is getting in trouble, if I go home before it's fixed, I get fired.
It should be the same thing with the wireless phone industry.
/rant off.
as much as i enjoy my epic i must agree with you, but its not just the phone industry, hell look at video games took ms years to finally get the rrod under control, sony had its ylod problems too....
Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.
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Dear god, I am sick and tired of seeing these stupid rants everyday.
Every phone is going to have a problem with it, nothing is perfect.
Complaining about it isn't going to magically make it all better.
If your having that many problems with it, then why not return it?
Mods, please make a rant Forum.
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That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!
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That's a great question and the answer is......because I have no alternative device like this with a keyboard.
Your attitude of "every phone is going to have a problem with it" is exactly WHY this whole situation exists in the first place. People are just OK with this type of thing happening.
Also - it's not just me having problems, the whole internet is FULL of epic owners with the same ****ty issues. All I'm saying is that EVERYTIME a phone is rolled out and **** DOESNT WORK - someone should be losing his or her job BECAUSE HE OR SHE DIDNT DO THEIR JOB!!
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People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?
I'm happy with the Epic apart from the fact it pulls power from the battery while plugged in causing it to take forever to charge if you using it heavily.
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People can only do so much with the limited resources they have.
I am guessing your attitude of a phone is that is has to be perfect.
There is never going to be a phone that is perfect.
Sure, there are problems with this phone, dont you think samsung already knows about this and is trying to fix this?
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According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
While I can be a LOT more patient with stuff, and thats because I am too trusting... I have been lately getting more and more aware that some things were overlooked with this phone.
I'm still hoping though, but I got screwed with the Instinct, from.. wait for it, Samsung, because that was supposed to be the first phone to challenge the iPhone and NOTHING, i mean NOTHING ever came out for it. That phone required reboot a year after it came out for some of the dumb issues, cause it wasn't ever updated, and then it was just flat out not really supported with apps like it was supposed to.
Then I got the Pre (diff company I know) but that was the next iPhone killer, and no apps (besides independent minor developing) for 6 months, while Palm and Sprint sat on their asses deciding to not allow developers to work on the Pre for that time for no reason. Result was after a good launch, people got tired and new phones started coming in.
Now this phone has only been out less than 3 weeks and already got an update, which feels to me that it did help the battery some while using 3G, but I gotta test it out some more. I'll be patient with this one, but it's the last device I get and hang on to if it has certain issues from the get go, because you're right j3ff, I think that all the time too, that people that are cool with a product that is mediocre from the get go is the reason why the US has so many crappy things out before they should be, it's also why Europe and Asia are 3 - 5 years ahead in diff tech areas (devices or services).
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What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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The popularity of the evo has absolutely nothing to do with the issues that the epic has.
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According to a sprint admin on the board they had no idea about this till we started reporting it. Why would samsung release a phone with horrible battery life and a crippled GPS if they knew about it? How did sprint testing NOT REALIZE that 3g doesn't go any faster then 150k.
No a phone doesn't have to be perfect, but these issues are DETRIMENTAL to how the phone works.
What's funny is while I was at the store they had plenty of Epics and not one EVO. I'm sitting there wondering why. I guess I know why now.
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Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.
Every one who buys the epic right aways does beta testing for them. They know it. This is real world testing for them. Just have to deal with it. Yeah it sucks
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Yea I have to agree that the Evo being constantly sold out has nothing to do with the Epic.. What it is, is that Samsung makes the HTC Evo screens. And with them having other devices to make screens for, they only have so many to go around extra for the Evo, especially since its a slightly bigger than normal screen. This means, whenever Samsung decides to toss some screens HTCs way, they do, otherwise their own devices are a priority. And since Samsung makes the Epic AND the S-AMOLED screens there's no shortage of screens for their own device, hence a lot more Epics on hand. I am surprised that HTC didn't go for the S-Amoled screen too, I think that would have turned the tide for some owners.
mekeke said:
Dear god, why don't you call Samsung up and ask them then?
I have to admit, my phone does have some problems with it.
But I deal with them. By far this is one of the best phones I've ever had.
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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.
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Dear god, you are the problem, you deal with them and pay major amounts of MONEY and you're just OK with that.
Sure it's a good phone, but phones up to THREE OR FOUR years OLDER both upload FASTER then the epic and have a full fledged working gps.
Also - I did call samsung and sprint, just like I hope all others will, there is NO REASON to just lay down and "dont worry" about major flaws in a flagship device.
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1: I do not pay major amounts of money, I got my Epic as a replacement for my broken HTC Evo.
2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.
This topic largely turned into what I expected it to...
Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.
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2:I do not recall the older phones having a GPS four years ago.
Your logic is flawed.
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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.
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Then you haven't been in the high end phone game for 4 years.
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Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.
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Yes, Americans are completely willing to deal with broken crap as long as they can tie some fanboy fervor to it. Seriously, all you people in here berating OP here because he doesn't really LIKE the fact that he pays top dollar to beta test things need to grow the hell up. There was a topic like this on the Sprint forums where one particular poster was defending the 150kbps upload cap because he claims to never need to upload anything. It doesn't matter if YOU care about the issue, all that matters is that its there and that it happens to be a couple of issues that should not make it out of beta testing.
Geez, I thought the Xbox 360 was the end of this acceptance of unacceptably broken crap.
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It really is crazy to me. Like i said at my job, if stuff doesn't work I don't go home, EVER. Doesn't matter what it is. How can a big company like Samsung let their designers and people who actually give life to the phone leave and go home if the day before they ship them to sprint everything isn't at least CLOSE to 100%
I bought a pocket PC 6700 like 5 years ago, had Naviagtion, and before that I had a phone that had Navigation I believe too. So your problem was the iPhone didn't have, not devices not having GPS
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Funny thing is, I have. I bought the original iphone, and I dont remember that having a GPS.
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Lol, you mean the original iPhone that failed to ship with 3G support at a time when entry level Nokia's had 3G? The iPhone hasn't been the best phone shipped that year for any of its releases. That gentleman said HIGH end.

Fascinate user moving on.....

Couldn't resist the offer for a free upgrade to the Charge and 4G was just switched on this week in my area, so it was a sign.
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone, devs and anyone else who helped make this device much nicer. Been running stock ED04 for 24 hours now and coming from CM7 boy can I say...this phone was a complete turd before you guys did your wizardry. Its been a long journey from launch...boy did we get far...
I am sure some of you will be making changes as well, but I wanted to say thanks either way, hopefully will see you on the other side.
Did you get a replacement over the phone? Mailed out to you? Verizon said I can get replacement mailed to me when in stock. Followed up after not hearing back and was told now that the only way to get replacement is by checking with Verizon stores in the area if they have the replacement Charge kit in stock. Blasted!!!
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Hymizzle said:
Did you get a replacement over the phone? Mailed out to you? Verizon said I can get replacement mailed to me when in stock. Followed up after not hearing back and was told now that the only way to get replacement is by checking with Verizon stores in the area if they have the replacement Charge kit in stock. Blasted!!!
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I started on the phone with troubleshooting and they authorized the exchange and they had me go to the store where they placed the order for the Charge and 4G sim card, to be at my house Thursday.
I wonder how many of us are switching to the charge? Someone should set up a poll lol
I am
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blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge
Eris _2.1_2010 said:
I wonder how many of us are switching to the charge? Someone should set up a poll lol
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I did hehe
http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-fascinate/105932-did-you-swap-out-fassy-another-device.html
I got my Fascinate replaced with a DX2 and then upgraded to a D3 and gave the X2 to a friend. The Fascinate was a great phone and I thank all of the devs. Without them, it would've sucked and I never would have gotten one. But it was time to move on to a dual core beast. And man, did I miss the reception, call quality, and build quality of a Moto phone.
Should get my Charge today. Been on a stock build for about two days and its horrible. Really makes you appreciate all the work you guys have done.
I too will be receiving my charge today I believe. Its been an enjoyable 5 months flashing this phone but time to move on.
I want to thank the devs as well for all their hard work on making this phone awesome. I have been stock since Sunday and its totally a big diff its so slow now lol. Anyways thanks again devs
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All the cool kids are getting the Incredible 2
GoogleAndroid said:
I got my Fascinate replaced with a DX2 and then upgraded to a D3 and gave the X2 to a friend. The Fascinate was a great phone and I thank all of the devs. Without them, it would've sucked and I never would have gotten one. But it was time to move on to a dual core beast. And man, did I miss the reception, call quality, and build quality of a Moto phone.
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I moved on to the DX2 because of reception & call quality & I'm happy with it. I won't necessarily miss the fascinate but it will miss this community & the devs here. You guys made this phone everything it was supposed to be.
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Not that I'm looking to "join the bandwagon".... OK, I'm looking to join the bandwagon. How is it that so many people are able to get these upgrades? Missed calls, low volume?? I've got another year on this device and not looking forward to it. ;-)
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Not that I'm looking to "join the bandwagon".... OK, I'm looking to join the bandwagon. How is it that so many people are able to get these upgrades? Missed calls, low volume?? I've got another year on this device and not looking forward to it. ;-)
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you have to have a legit issue...this isnt a freebie as a way to get a new phone...although im sure some less than honorable people are using it as such
Er, duh. I understand that nitsuj. I have the issues I mentioned in my previous reply. I didn't actually believe that vzw would go so far as to send out better devices to compensate for, what I thought are, "acceptable issues". By acceptable, i am referring to issues that can be caused and justified by loss of signal reception, or aging hardware.
If vzw considers that to be a valid excuse to send me a new device, count me in. Like I said, I've got another year with this phone. I can't afford to miss calls from my wife who is at home with our special needs child, or the facilities that I manage.
I hope this reply is "adequate" enouph for you. Or feel free to jump to conclusions about my personal needs to have a quality device that I pay hard earned money to enjoy, and quite honestly need to keep Dr. visits/appointments in check.
End rant.
aolander said:
Not that I'm looking to "join the bandwagon".... OK, I'm looking to join the bandwagon. How is it that so many people are able to get these upgrades? Missed calls, low volume?? I've got another year on this device and not looking forward to it. ;-)
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Mine was having issues with missing calls, not getting messages, and I was having trouble hearing people and they were having trouble hearing me. And this was whether I was stock or on ComRom or CM7/MIUI, no matter which radio, and no matter how much signal strength I had. I missed a few important texts in an area where I had a full bars and signal strength at around -70dbm.
Thank you for your input GoogleAndroid. I can't believe this is such a widespread issue. The best thing about this is hopefully I won't need to use my wife's upgrade to get a decent phone. Win win me thinks. The ;-)
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Er, duh. I understand that nitsuj. I have the issues I mentioned in my previous reply. I didn't actually believe that vzw would go so far as to send out better devices to compensate for, what I thought are, "acceptable issues". By acceptable, i am referring to issues that can be caused and justified by loss of signal reception, or aging hardware.
If vzw considers that to be a valid excuse to send me a new device, count me in. Like I said, I've got another year with this phone. I can't afford to miss calls from my wife who is at home with our special needs child, or the facilities that I manage.
I hope this reply is "adequate" enouph for you. Or feel free to jump to conclusions about my personal needs to have a quality device that I pay hard earned money to enjoy, and quite honestly need to keep Dr. visits/appointments in check.
End rant.
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if you have a legit reason then i was in no way meaning any offense...your post i quoted listed no issues that you were having (if they were in previous posts, my bad) and lets face it...at this point everyone is hoping they have issues to get free phones out of it
id hazard a guess that half of the root community on xda has switched because they heard it was a possibility so they went looking for a problem...my issue was hardware related (and not related to whatever else had)
my point was just that your post made it look like u were itching for a new phone a year early...since ur saying thats not the case ill take you at your word
Fascinated
well, my daughter finally, and reluctantly, traded in her Fascinate for a Charge, after four dysfunctional Fascinates. Hers was the missed call problem. I still have the Fascinate, running CM7 since the demise of GB CommROM - and I have zero interest in the Charge, DX2 or Dinc2. The modded Fascinate (thank you devs!) is in my opinion the best smartphone available. That is, until...
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/27/galaxy-s-ii-on-verizon-dubbed-fascinate-ii/
What I am waiting to use my upgrade for is the Fascinate 2, coming soon to a Verizon near you. Unless the Nexus Prime release is announced soon.
pdb23103 said:
well, my daughter finally, and reluctantly, traded in her Fascinate for a Charge, after four dysfunctional Fascinates. Hers was the missed call problem. I still have the Fascinate, running CM7 since the demise of GB CommROM - and I have zero interest in the Charge, DX2 or Dinc2. The modded Fascinate (thank you devs!) is in my opinion the best smartphone available. That is, until...
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/07/27/galaxy-s-ii-on-verizon-dubbed-fascinate-ii/
What I am waiting to use my upgrade for is the Fascinate 2, coming soon to a Verizon near you. Unless the Nexus Prime release is announced soon.
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Fascinate 2!!!! Woohoo!!!!
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