hello friends. ive been using adw launcher fr a while... didnt had any issues b4 bt now... whenever i press the home button, adw launcher restarts and all the widgets hav to b loaded again. its ok if it happens like once in 2 days but it happens like almost everytime i press it... nd im really irritated with it.
jus in case u wana knw, im using Estrongs task manager.
waiting fr ur replies. thanks.
did you set ADW to replace default one?
my problem is when i hold the home key (to switch between recent apps) i have to set adw as default again ... and i experience a lot of crashes - mostly when i go back from an app to my home screen .... for me the new version is unusable now
Yes yes. I have.
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go to market and download home swicher this is an application to chosse the action for home button and u can change this action as u want
momerbk said:
im using Estrongs task manager.
waiting fr ur replies. thanks.
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Try uninstalling that and see how you get on.
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Try uninstalling that and see how you get on.
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okay.. bt then which task manager should i use? which one gives me the max ram and cpu pfftt i mean which one is the best with which my x10i will run smoothly
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None of them. My advice is not to use them.
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None of them. My advice is not to use them.
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but then the phone gets too laggy... esp if ure using a launcher and not a task manager
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okay.. bt then which task manager should i use?
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I use Advanced Task Killer (free version) and works pretty well on my phone. Some people say not to use one but have yet to see any evidence of why not to other than peoples opinions, so it's up to you whether or not you want to use one.
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but then the phone gets too laggy... esp if ure using a launcher and not a task manager
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Mine works much better without task killers. No lags at all... And i tried many of them. It´s just my opinion, dude. You can find many threads about this to get your own: to use or not task killers.
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edit: And I use ADW (last update) and 026 firm non rooted. No task killer. No startup manager. And everything is just fine.
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Mine works much better without task killers. No lags at all... And i tried many of them. It´s just my opinion, dude. You can find many threads about this to get your own: to use or not task killers.
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edit: And I use ADW (last update) and 026 firm non rooted. No task killer. No startup manager. And everything is just fine.
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I use Advanced Task Killer (free version) and works pretty well on my phone. Some people say not to use one but have yet to see any evidence of why not to other than peoples opinions, so it's up to you whether or not you want to use one.
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ohk. ill try to do both things... thanks a lot for the help! =)
I don't feel like writing out the full reason for why not to use a task killer.
Luckily for me, this link explains it nicely.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Once you give it a read, you can google around and you will find other sources which give you the same info in a bit more detail.
As for the widget problem? I have yet to experience it unless I am changing a setting on ADW (pretty much any changed setting under ADW settings will result in my widgets reloading). However, I never experience it other than that. I imagine the task killer is your problem.
Good luck!
Again, it is an opinion, but without ATK, I would not be able to fully use ADW. You can explain the logic about why one should or should not use a task killer. My own personal experience shows that my battery and phone performs better with the free version of ATK.
[Note: the link to the geekfor.me as posted by ^^ says that Android automatically kills tasks when more memory is needed. NOT true with the X10. That is why the phone re-starts from time to time. SE's own support site list this as an issue. Once I have started using ATK, my phone does not re-starts by itself anymore].
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http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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"Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when it’s done doing what it needs to do."
So why then does it leave tasks running when you close them, for example, if I use Meridian then close it, the app will still show in the ATK list, and remains there until I shut it down. When you boot the phone, it loads a few apps, that would remain there unless I use ATK. The first reply to the article sums up the experience of a lot of users.
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Again, it is an opinion, but without ATK, I would not be able to fully use ADW. You can explain the logic about why one should or should not use a task killer. My own personal experience shows that my battery and phone performs better with the free version of ATK.
[Note: the link to the geekfor.me as posted by ^^ says that Android automatically kills tasks when more memory is needed. NOT true with the X10. That is why the phone re-starts from time to time. SE's own support site list this as an issue. Once I have started using ATK, my phone does not re-starts by itself anymore].
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Mine has never re-started itself without task killer.
I use Advanced Task Manager since I started using X10 with ADW Launcher. It was all fine at the begining. Then I reinstalled software and restored aplications (without settings) and started experience the same problem as OP. So I have changed some settings in ADW, especially paying attention to System Preferences and UI settings. I don't know excatly what I have changed but I do NOT experience any problems with ADW "restarting" after that. So in my opinion this problem is down to setting ADW properly, only.
My ADW was experiencing that as well and I enabled ADW Settings > System Preferences > System persistent
This seemed to fix it for me.
ATK and similar apps are a personal choice, I used ATK until late June but since uninstalled the phone had run smoother. But then, it's rooted and overclocked...
ADW is probably the best home, openhome and panda have issues and xxx too crashes too often
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Reeonimus said:
My ADW was experiencing that as well and I enabled ADW Settings > System Preferences > System persistent
This seemed to fix it for me.
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thx to the new version you cant use persistent mode with orientation in landscape(or sensor mode) - i dont get why ...
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I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
It's meant to. That is how android and linux works.
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I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
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just let them run. stop killing them.
lifeflayer said:
just let them run. stop killing them.
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Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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thats simply not the way it works, let them run, if the o/s sees there is another program that wants some ram it will clear some by killing lesser priority apps.
I stopped using task killers about 3 weeks ago. My phone runs much quicker now I've stopped killing everything... Let the tech do it's own thing and it works surprisingly well....
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Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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have you even tried to use the phone without a task manager? the apps in the background are in a frozen state, which means they are simply cached in the ram so when you restart them they open instantly AND retain the old state. there is absolutely no reason to kill an program unless the program bugged out.
mine runs ok i have this kind of apps called FSFILE EXPLORER in this apps wen i hit the menu you can see task manager then all previous apps that i open it highlighted into green color hit kill selected witch is highlighted then memory increase.... nothing is running on the idle.
unused ram is wasted ram
Ok guys will uninstall my task killer and see how i get on thanks
The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
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The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
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get rid of those apps and get better ones
The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.
The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.
unused ram is wasted ram
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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So when the X10 first got released, everyone was blaming Moxier for being a battery pig regardless if you were using it or not. Are we now saying that isn't true?
That's correct - Moxier doesn't use any juice (not noticeable anyway).. I ran a test with wifi off and data/ mms off over night.. so it was just basically a dumb phone with loads of fancy apps.. it used 2% in about 8 hours...
No start up auditor, no task manager... I am running Helix Launcher.
It's natural to not want apps running in the background. What's the first thing you want to do to optimise your PC? Remove unused startup processes and background tasks. It's more important for a phone which has more limited resources than a PC.
I don't use Moxier Mail, Timescape or PlayNow. But for some reason they all open themselves up in the background every so often.
Iceman, I feel pretty lame for trying to manage the apps so much. Going to try a the same test tonight to see what happens.
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Is there any special way to close an application that you are in, or does tapping the home button close it? I want to make sure that I am not using up processor with crap I'm not even using at the time.
To close apps you would need to download a task manager from Market. The way Android is meant to behave is that it leaves apps open until another apps needs it's memory and then it automatically closes other background apps.
I downloaded Advanced Task Killer. Any pros or cons to this app or is there one better?
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I downloaded Advanced Task Killer. Any pros or cons to this app or is there one better?
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That's what I use and it works well for me. As you can choose which apps to leave open and which ones to kill. And it remembers so you don't have to select everytime.
Is there a better one? Maybe, but that one works well, is simple, quick, and easy to use.
Here is why you DON'T NEED a task manager..... do yourself a favor and read..
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
Thanks for the help guys. I appreciate it.
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Here is why you DON'T NEED a task manager..... do yourself a favor and read..
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Wow... that actually makes a ton of sense. Thanks for this.
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I'll double confirm that YOU DO NOT NEED a task manager (unless u need to kill a crashing app if u dont wanna reboot)..
That's how Android is, "background running" apps do not affect phone's performance, cuz they're not really "running" in the background.
Some apps (like Dolphin HD browser) have EXIT/CLOSE button when u press menu
Also hitting back instead of home will usually "close" the app
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nippy!
JustinLoe said:
Here is why you DON'T NEED a task manager..... do yourself a favor and read..
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
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I couldn't help myself, I wasn't trying to notice it, but it must have been a bit nippy out!
Update: After actually reading the article and a related one linked at the bottom
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
The Android Market has dozens, possibly hundreds, of task killer apps all vying for attention. I’m sure some people may argue that there’s some short-term value to these apps; however, it appears that task killers are not necessary and in some cases do more harm than good. An additional 20 minutes of use or short bursts of freed RAM can be great, but users shouldn’t compromise experience and overall health of their device for that extra time.
Let me be clear in stating that apps like Advance Task Manager or TaskOS have great virtues like batch uninstall and app switching that many people can still benefit from using. With that said, it seems that constantly killing tasks, apps, and processes is not in the best interest of your phone. Android already has the natural ability to do this effectively, so let the phone do its job.
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Here is why you DON'T NEED a task manager..... do yourself a favor and read..
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
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Good read. It reinforced my belief that I don't need to manage tasks myself.
Hello
I am making this topic in the general section because beautiful widgets is a very common application and is used by many people.
Earlier I was using a 3rd party task killer but with samsung app which is available in the latest version I thought that there is no need to use any other.
Anyone noticed when you clear RAM using Samsung task manager and select just "Level 1" even then it kill beautiful widgets and then the clock is just stuck at the time and it doesnt update.
Only workaround is to trash and add the widget again. Sadly samsung task manager doesnt even have option to add some apps to ignore. In that case its pretty much unusable!
I dont know if its as common as you may think. I have both the samsung task killer and beautiful widgets and it doesn't cause a problem for me.
I see the same problem. Would be nice to be able to exclude some apps/widgets that one never wants killed.
I do not have this problem awith buitifull widget. I have the problem with adw launcher.
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Same here but after killing the widget is loading automatically. Also the menu is closed when the ram is cleaned.
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I have installed a third party task manager now by rhythm software which seems to be good. Its sad though that the defailt manager doesnt have tje option to add apps o ignore list when every third party app seems to br having it.
I always used an task killer, now that i'm on jpk fw, i only use the integrated samsung taskmanager to kill programs that are running in the background, he's keeping himself at 230MB free memory at pretty much all time =/
Stable build while having +230MB free memory, never ever to be using a taskkiller again, cos you'll ruin the autoupdates from widgets and stuff, ofcourse..
Widgets are kept updated
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I always used an task killer, now that i'm on jpk fw, i only use the integrated samsung taskmanager to kill programs that are running in the background, he's keeping himself at 230MB free memory at pretty much all time =/
Stable build while having +230MB free memory, never ever to be using a taskkiller cos you'll ruin the autoupdates from widgets and stuff, ofcourse..
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With Froyo things would change. But since Currently there is no official update and the phone has Eclair there are RAM issues sometimes.
With 2.1 I saw the available RAm many times around +33MB and after dumping the processes maybe max 140MB and not without the expectable widgets update problems. Sooo, for the time being, live with it! ^^
Froyo will solve all these problems for you, they just have to polish it up a bit; making more use of the option-button than de current un-official build has.
Hi!! I have a problem, I'm currently Running Darky's 10.1 with dark core 2.6... Everything is smooth and snappy, however the system keeps killing my launcher everytime I launch an application whether it be a game, browser, news app... Whenever I exit the app the launcher reloads and it makes the phone really really slow and laggy for 10-15 seconds...
I currently using ZEAM launcher, not sure whats causing this, i've been using this launcher since its launch and only had this problem when i was on stock froyo...
Any ideas what can be done to fix this issue...
Thanks!!
Same problem here.
I am on GigerReal 7.1.3 and the worse thing is when it you try to make a phone call and the bloody thing just restarts the phone every third key pressed.
I can only call using voice calling when this happens...
I am using LauncherPro but it also happens in Ginger Launcher and TW Launcher 4.5
Just out of interest guys, how much free memory is showing for you in Settings > Applications > Running Services ?
I am running stock JVQ and although the phone works fine after initial boot (with around 180mb free) this number seems to drop over time and results in any new application clearing any other app from the memory. This even meant that if I got a text message while using the web browser and replied to it, by the time I went to return to the browser it had to reload where I was from scratch. It was also clear that after playing a game and returning to the home screen, even this was having to reload and "redraw" again.
That in itself is a minor annoyance but eventually it seemed to get so bogged down the whole system froze with the "black screen of death" and I had to do a forced reboot. I'm aware, of course, that JVQ is not an official release so it's not fair to be too harsh on Samsung here...
I seem to have a lot of memory free. It happens after the phone has been up for some time.
I noticed that launcher pro was reloading the widgets every time it starts. Also i seem to notice that it happens when you dial a couple of numbers and it starts giving you suggestions from the contacts. So it could be contact related?
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I seem to have a lot of memory free. It happens after the phone has been up for some time.
I noticed that launcher pro was reloading the widgets every time it starts. Also i seem to notice that it happens when you dial a couple of numbers and it starts giving you suggestions from the contacts. So it could be contact related?
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This is the same that happens on my system... The launcher just reloads all the widgets everytime I close an application... the amount of ram is always close to 243/337.. So its close to 90-100 mb free, which is enough i suppose... Still the launcher just reloads everytime an app is closed... Its really getting annoying...
basicly you must set HOME_APP_ADJ to 0 making home app unkillable =)
am not sure but probably do that
/data/local.prop -> add such line ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=0
and restart - have not tested just pure theory (the .prop location)
$omator said:
basicly you must set HOME_APP_ADJ to 0 making home app unkillable =)
am not sure but probably do that
/data/local.prop -> add such line ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=0
and restart - have not tested just pure theory (the .prop location)
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Actually, putting the value as 1 worked better for me. My launcher so far has not been killed even once.
ya 1 should work flawlesly
0 is making it bulletproof/unkillable at any state
but 1 should be safest value
I think Spare Parts allows you to adjust the task killer's sensitivity. Maybe have a play with that and relax the settings.
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ya 1 should work flawlesly
0 is making it bulletproof/unkillable at any state
but 1 should be safest value
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Hi Thanks for the advice, however i'm not sure how to set these values, Is there any tool that I can use to do that??
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I think Spare Parts allows you to adjust the task killer's sensitivity. Maybe have a play with that and relax the settings.
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spare parts at least free one does not have such option
also this is not about adjusting memory taskkiller options
not the one that you can setup with this useless juwe script for example
different thing
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Hi Thanks for the advice, however i'm not sure how to set these values, Is there any tool that I can use to do that??
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never came across one
exjc1986 said:
Hi Thanks for the advice, however i'm not sure how to set these values, Is there any tool that I can use to do that??
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Attached is an APK which adds that line. Make sure you're rooted first. I wrote it in the past 10 minutes, so it's very simple and might crash, but it did work for me.
Just install it, launch it, confirm root and then watch out for a small message. If successful it will directly ask you to uninstall it. Reboot, and done.
there is also ro.HOME_APP_MEM that can be changed to 4096
to follow other oom_adj=1 settings =)
@martino2k6
Thanks a lot dude... The apk installed perfectly... I'm already seeing improved performance from my device... The launcher hasn't been killed once since the install...
Thanks again for all your help... appreciate it...
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http://androidnexus.com/guides/fix-home-screen-redraw-lag-in-launcherpro-and-adw-launcher
Try changing the lowmemoty killer setting to something less aggressive. Your phone is trying to keep too much free memory so has to kill off apps.
Download Galaxy Tuner (using memory manaber option)and set the application cache values to the new samsung default as follows:-
fa=10 MB
va=16 MB
ss=20 MB
ha=24 MB
cp=28 MB
ea=32 MB
Make a note of your current settings in case it doesnt help.
You can also use Galaxy Tuner to set JEWE's file system cache
, settings are:-
SWP: 50
VCP: 10
DEC: 5
DWC: 10
DRA: 90
DBR: 5
These work well for me so give them a whirl, you can always put the values back to where they are now.
mate the problem is solved already - please read dont spam those juwe crappy values ok ?
Ok, cool
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I cannot thank you enough mate!
There were times i could make a phonecall cause it kept bringing me back to the home screen!
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar!
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Attached is an APK which adds that line. Make sure you're rooted first. I wrote it in the past 10 minutes, so it's very simple and might crash, but it did work for me.
Just install it, launch it, confirm root and then watch out for a small message. If successful it will directly ask you to uninstall it. Reboot, and done.
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@martino2k6
Thanks a lot dude... The apk installed perfectly... I'm already seeing improved performance from my device... The launcher hasn't been killed once since the install...
Thanks again for all your help... appreciate it...
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I cannot thank you enough mate!
There were times i could make a phonecall cause it kept bringing me back to the home screen!
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar!
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You're both welcome. That's what [helping out] XDA is for after all
Contact app is always in the background after use, even though you close your app. Does anyone have a solution for this?
Could close only with task manager. Have other use same problem with contact app. Already installed different ROM's but always same.
Thanks a lot in advance
And whats the problem? Android supports multi-tasking and when it needs more memory, it makes it itself. Or if it matters you can close it with task manager included in FroYo
That's just an annoying thing for me.
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That's just an annoying thing for me.
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Ok, so you can use froyo task manager. In my view, its the only task manager good for android system(others are ruining the running of the system)
Or try Go Launcher it has a really good task manager included
same problem for me also.....any solutions ????? i have tried various stock and custom ROMS...but nothing happened....