Windows Mobile 6.5 for BA's little bro - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 ROM Development

I was wondering if it would be possible to take a BA Windows Mobile 6.5 rom and put it on to a Harrier/PPC-6600.
I'm sure this has been asked before, I just haven't found it.
I believe the only differences between the two devices are:
Harrier: BlueAngel:
64 MB ROM 96 MB ROM
No WiFi WiFi
CDMA GSM?
We could remove the WiFi module/software and then we wouldn't need the extra 32MB of ROM (hehe because I'm sure it would take 32MB ).
I have little programming experience (conversational in Flash, a few words in Python) but a fair knowledge of computers and I do have a Harrier so I could test it out(provided there's less than a 50% chance of bricking it) and help out to try to get it working if I had instructions.
Is this possible or should I just stick with WM 2003 SE?
If this question has been asked 3428930480328 times, then I apologize.
Thanks in advance .

It actually has been asked before
Next time you have questions, please post them in the Q&A section. Opening new threads is only for contributions to the forum (roms, kitchens, themes, etc).
To answer your question, no one has been able to port anything over 2003 to the Harrier. There are many major differences aside from the ones that you have already mentioned, which are substantial in the first place. Hope this answers your question.

It can be done you would just need to write a bootloader from scratch, one which can support wince 5.0.

What are the other major substantial differences?
A previous post from GnatGoSplat suggested that the following steps should make a GSM ROM work on a CDMA phone.
To make this work, you would have to:
1. Dump your WM5 ROM.
2. Separate dump into SYS and OEM packages.
3. Extract XIP.
4. Build new XIP with WM6.1 MSXIPKERNEL.
5. Build new IMGFS with new WM6.1 SYS folder.
6. G'Reloc the entire ROM.
7. BuildOS to create a dump.
8. Use Tadzio's tools to create a .bin, then to a .nb file.
9. Flash the .nb file.
This is sure to work, but isn't simple to do. If you're new to ROM cooking in general, you'll have a lot to learn before you can even attempt this. I've been cooking ROMs for 4-months and I still have a lot to learn.
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I'd really like to get this to work. I have the time to donate and I'm a quick learner.
Are the steps shown above accurate in this context?

michael-knight said:
What are the other major substantial differences?
A previous post from GnatGoSplat suggested that the following steps should make a GSM ROM work on a CDMA phone.
I'd really like to get this to work. I have the time to donate and I'm a quick learner.
Are the steps shown above accurate in this context?
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Here is the thing... WM5 was never ported to the Harrier, so going from WM2003, you need to do something far substantially different to what you described.
Again, it has not been done. I am not saying it is impossible, but no one has done it.

Update and some questions
After much research and screwing around lol, I attempted to extract a Harrier rom using xda3nbftool.exe . Unfortunately, using the password "0x20040521" gave me the "WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, possible you provided the wrong password" error.
So, I compared it to a BlueAngel rom that WOULD extract using a hex editor to try and figure out what the difference was, and at the address 0x20040521 (I assumed that's what the "password" meant), there is no difference.
In fact, there are NO differences after 12MB in the file. That means AT LEAST 20MB of a Harrier ROM is IDENTICAL to that of a BlueAngel rom.
It's not like there's even 12 MB worth of differences - there's far less than that. I would guess around 5 or 6 worth. What I said was that 12MB into the file, there are none. In that 12MB, there are similarities still - I'm just too lazy atm to total it up
Anyway, that was just to prove how similar the Harrier is to the BlueAngel for some more support over here on the CDMA side of things (although that 20MB of similarity is probably just Windows Mobile 2003SE ).
My question is, why won't xda3nbftool.exe produce a usable result if the address it looks at is about 6.6 MB after the end of differences and start of 100% similarity?
Also, I have my own Harrier's rom dumped (using d2s, haven't done anything to it after that). How do I turn this into a nk.nbf file or split it into SYS and OEM? I've done much googling. The things I've tried so far have failed.

michael-knight said:
After much research and screwing around lol, I attempted to extract a Harrier rom using xda3nbftool.exe . Unfortunately, using the password "0x20040521" gave me the "WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, possible you provided the wrong password" error.
So, I compared it to a BlueAngel rom that WOULD extract using a hex editor to try and figure out what the difference was, and at the address 0x20040521 (I assumed that's what the "password" meant), there is no difference.
In fact, there are NO differences after 12MB in the file. That means AT LEAST 20MB of a Harrier ROM is IDENTICAL to that of a BlueAngel rom.
It's not like there's even 12 MB worth of differences - there's far less than that. I would guess around 5 or 6 worth. What I said was that 12MB into the file, there are none. In that 12MB, there are similarities still - I'm just too lazy atm to total it up
Anyway, that was just to prove how similar the Harrier is to the BlueAngel for some more support over here on the CDMA side of things (although that 20MB of similarity is probably just Windows Mobile 2003SE ).
My question is, why won't xda3nbftool.exe produce a usable result if the address it looks at is about 6.6 MB after the end of differences and start of 100% similarity?
Also, I have my own Harrier's rom dumped (using d2s, haven't done anything to it after that). How do I turn this into a nk.nbf file or split it into SYS and OEM? I've done much googling. The things I've tried so far have failed.
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Since it seems that you are really inclined into making this work... I guess I can try to point you were you can get more info since I don't know much about porting stuff myself
Check in the Himalaya section. There is a porting guide (I believe by Ather90), which goes into a lot of the stuff that you are asking about. Unfortunately for us, cooking nbf files is a lost art and very few people in this forum will be able to help you (Da_G probably being one of them)

michael-knight said:
I was wondering if it would be possible to take a BA Windows Mobile 6.5 rom and put it on to a Harrier/PPC-6600.
I'm sure this has been asked before, I just haven't found it.
I believe the only differences between the two devices are:
Harrier: BlueAngel:
64 MB ROM 96 MB ROM
No WiFi WiFi
CDMA GSM?
We could remove the WiFi module/software and then we wouldn't need the extra 32MB of ROM (hehe because I'm sure it would take 32MB ).
I have little programming experience (conversational in Flash, a few words in Python) but a fair knowledge of computers and I do have a Harrier so I could test it out(provided there's less than a 50% chance of bricking it) and help out to try to get it working if I had instructions.
Is this possible or should I just stick with WM 2003 SE?
If this question has been asked 3428930480328 times, then I apologize.
Thanks in advance .
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Lots of us waiting for such thing. Good luck!

Sorry to bump the thread, but now my real world things have came to an end with exams being over and such.
I sent a private message at the beginning of this month to Ather90 and Da_G but neither of them have replied. If anyone has any suggestions or advice, please let me know.

michael-knight said:
Sorry to bump the thread, but now my real world things have came to an end with exams being over and such.
I sent a private message at the beginning of this month to Ather90 and Da_G but neither of them have replied. If anyone has any suggestions or advice, please let me know.
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Da_G has been somewhat absent lately and (my mistake) Ather90 is now Ather. Try to send him a message and see if he replies.

Related

Brick Avoidance During A Rom Switch...

I've read EVERY thread on this board in both Universal sections (not including accessories.)
There are lots of "how to UNBRICK your Universal" threads, but all threads with references on how to avoid bricking it in the first place are convoluted.
Can someone take up the task of making "The Definititive Guide to Rom Switching your Universal" that
1. Works for ANY HTC Universal variant
2. Starts w/ the standard "sync up your Universal" warning
3. Lists all software needed (extended rom unlockers, the roms themselves, radio update)
4. Runs all software in order so that the dreaded county code and syncing errors never show up
Can someone take up this task?
Again, this isnt about "best software" for the Universal. We are JUST talking about Rom switching...
i agree this would be really helpful. it's a tricky path to tread and a "one-stop" how to guidev would be great.
i agree this would be really helpful. it's a tricky path to tread and a "one-stop" how to guidev would be great.
Yeah this would be a great Sticky, especially as it looks like we are all about to receive a new ROM thanks to one of XDA-Developers users having just got a new Exec with a newer ROM version than the one available on O2's website.
BTW does'nt O2's website give detailed instructions on reflashing the original ROM that they have available for d/l? I cant get that far on their site as you need to fill out IMEI/Phone Number/Inside leg measurement etc before you can d/l it.
Can someone d/l it and see it it comes with instructions for applying and post info here, maybe its what we are looking for?
Here is the Pdf doc that comes with the software download
@bakerk, can you open the .exe in winrar or similar instead of running it? If you can is there seperate files in the .exe? i.e. an flash application and the actual ROM file? Or is the file not a self extracting archive?
Regards
-edit btw thanks for the posted pdf!
ok here is a list of the files looking in through winrar
\EnterBL.exe 5.496
\GetDeviceData.exe 10,104
\ms_.nbf 10,485,932
\nk.nbf 66,715,820
\radio_.nbf 10,633,900
\ROMUpgradeUt.exe 77,824
\RUU.conf 156
\RUU.dll 200,704
\UI.dll 282,624
As I recall these are the standard files for an upgrade
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So it should be okay to use that update from O2 along with the ROM dump from Moandal http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35810 when it gets posted, to upgrade all our Exec's to Moandal's Exec's latest ROM?

Wizard - Extended Rom - how to delete ???

Hi,
I am wondering, if anybody has ever found out, if it would be possible to "reformat" the Wizard in oder to eliminate the space for the Extended Rom?
I do not need it and the almost 10 MB more would be just perfect to encrase the space of the first partition (to get all 64 MB from the Rom for programs in one partition).
Any ideas??
Please let me know!
cma
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have you tried a search? there's tons of threads on modifying your Wizard Extended Rom if you're using a pre-AKU2 ROM. Here's one thread on modifying ExtROM when using AKU2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44518
Note that you won't gain any additional space from deleting bits in the Extended Rom, but certainly you could replace bits with applications of your own which would otherwise take up space in the user section of the persistent storage.
Edit: there was a thread about about the AKU2 extrom editing %)
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From what I've read, you can only delete stuff (or do anything with) the extended rom if your OS rom version is LESS than 2.x. If it's 2.x (and yours is), it's locked and you can't do anything with it. As I understand it, there are people working on this, patience would probably be appreciated.
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cma, take the 'search' hint on this
Unlocking the CID has NOTHING to do with unlocking the ExtROM (nor has is anything to do with SIM Unlock).
You are running the AKU2 ROM (as am I). Until now there is NO solution on making the ExtROM writable on all 1.6 roms and above (your rom is a 2.x rom).
You can try to change it via a very complicated way as mentioned in the thread wich is mentioned above.
Just be patient (like te rest of us) Buzz_lightyear is working on it, but until now it has been hard to extract a proper bootloader from the wizard. I send buz my bootloader last week and if that one is useable he might be working on it right now.
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cma said:
Hi edsub,
you wrote: "...Buzz_lightyear is working on it..."
Did you already hear anything from buz about modifying the extended rom?
I'm hardly waiting already!!!
greetings
cma
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You can follow up what's going on here at Buzz's Forum
Cheers
hrb
http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,59/func,view/id,10164/catid,45/
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There is another thread which deals with modifying your ExtROM post-AKU2, but the steps are relatively complex;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44518
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erm.. that thread deals specifically with being able to alter the contents of the ExtROM - which is part of what you want, no?
The other part of what you want - which is to say to re-allocate memory dedicated for ROM/ExtROM storage to user data storage, is an entirely different matter.. last I checked
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there IS someone on the case already. You just have to WAIT until the people in that OTHER thread manage to come up with the answer!
cma said:
Hi ZeBoxx,
yes, ok, this is true - but in that thread is only written, that all people want this option, but nobody could do it!? Or???
I read and serach and read but - as many others for sure - I could not find anything helpful, exept knowing now, that many other persons do want to use the extended rom but they - as myself - simply can't.
Theirfor again my question in this tread:
IS THEIR NOBODY OUT, WHO CAN REMOVE THAT unnecassary WRITE PROTECTION???
I can not see any reason why it is done so!!!
THANKS for your pations and also for your response.
I hardly hope that anybody is capeable to help!!!
cma
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I'm not a flamer, but I've been cracking my head with the AKU2 Disk on Chip protection for the whole goddamn weekend...
Wizard/Prophet and probably Charmer all have this new protection. The bootloader has been completly changed, the memory structure also changed. IT'S not a trivial problem, buzz and me been looking at it and the password is not visible as it was...
Please respect the work of others. If your not happy about it, write your own tool.
Bye,
Ricardo
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[PRJ] Yet Another Attempt to Port WM6 for 6915/6925/6935/6945/6955/6965

I'd like to re-start the initiative to get WM6 on this series of devices. I believe I have been able to re-create the XIP, OEM and SYS folders needed to do the porting, So I am here to figure out how to go from there. If anyone has better experience with this sort of thing feel free to add to this or feel free to PM me.
We need a method for SoftSPL Flash any ROM G4!
It is not possible to flash. Must remove protection
FAQ:
What is SoftSPL?
-SoftSPL is a patched SPL that will temporary unlock your CID (untill reboot).
-It will be copied to your device and loaded (BUT NOT FLASHED!), the device is tricked to believe it has SuperCID (More accuratly g_cKeyCardSecurityLevel will be 0 ).
Why Temporary?
-1st because of warranty, since there is no CID block written, warranty isn't void
-2nd with this tool it's not necesarry to have a permanently unlocked CID.
-3rd it's safe, it doesn't flash CID block or IPL/SPL by it's own, but choose your ROM you want to flash wisely!
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people who can help: Olipro, OliNex, pof, the-equinoxe, mestrini, MachinaGod, UDK, paradis_pal and other people... (I apologize if I missed some of the gods in the forum)
my English is very bad to understand.
Any news mates? i think a lot of 6915 users needs a change
Any news mates? i think a lot of 6915 users needs a change
really
Need a change? It's called upgrade your phone. The 69xx is so old that it's not even worth trying to upgrade the OS to 6.x. Too slow of a CPU and too little memory.
chrislynch said:
Need a change? It's called upgrade your phone. The 69xx is so old that it's not even worth trying to upgrade the OS to 6.x. Too slow of a CPU and too little memory.
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It is faster than diffrent modern processors(like 200 mhz samsung etc). And has wi-fi, gps, hard keyboard... Cool thing!
WM6 is here.. and the 69xx still has what other phones don't: WM+IR+GPS+WIFI+BT
WM6 is here.. and works.. WiFi even GPS!
Check it out below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685471
jambongo said:
I'd like to re-start the initiative to get WM6 on this series of devices. I believe I have been able to re-create the XIP, OEM and SYS folders needed to do the porting, So I am here to figure out how to go from there. If anyone has better experience with this sort of thing feel free to add to this or feel free to PM me.
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This phone has Infra-red, GPS and has a good CPU.
chrislynch said:
Need a change? It's called upgrade your phone. The 69xx is so old that it's not even worth trying to upgrade the OS to 6.x. Too slow of a CPU and too little memory.
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Show me another GSM phone, WM preferably, that has Infrared AND GPS and has a fast enough CPU to watch TV torrent AVIs across a network over WIFI without having to re-encode.

[SOLVED]Trouble with the rilphone.dll in my ROM

I have been working on cooking a ROM for my Tilt2 using the osKitchen. Everything is going swimmingly except for a couple of last things.
I am having some trouble with my phone connection and signal. The signal shows 5 bars and then then drops to 0 and stays that way for a while then jumps back to 5 bars. I have noticed this behavior no matter what the signal actually is. I may have messed up a setting but it seems like this all started happening when I tried to change out the rilphone.dll. Are there any things that I need to consider when using another rilphone.dll? I just grabbed the whole folder of the one that I wanted to use and replaced that in my OEM Driver folder. I am sure that I am using a TouchPro II rilphone.dll. I have tried three different ones from other stock roms and I know that they are radios that work on my device. Are there other files that I need to include? Or other settings that will affect performance?
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
cj
See if this can help you:
Da_G said:
posting from the road..
re: rilphone.dll:
one way to implement would be to dump the rom that comes with the radio, grab rilphone.dll, insert into your rom, cook.
but that only works if you have the oem/rom/sys or if the rom is unprotected so you can dump/recook..
if the chef has patched nk.exe in your rom to skip security checks, you can simply copy rilphone.dll to device as rilphone2.dll
or similar, and change the registry to point to that, soft reset.. if rom is not cert patched it won't load without proper signatures.
if i recall there's a program in development and hacking forum that will allow you to open any nbh, and extract/inject single files..
with that program you can simply extract desired rilphone.dll, inject into desired target rom prior to flashing.. no need to worry about
signatures as rom files are always trusted. that way is probably easiest
apologies for poor formatting, etc.
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Also this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481026
And thanks for this thread i would knew more about Rilphone.
af974 said:
See if this can help you:
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I appreciate the reply. That link had some good info and Da_Gs quote was definitely great information.
Unfortunately, I am not having trouble getting the dll. I have several that I have pulled from stock ROMS that will all work in my Kitchen. The problem is that they don't seem to work completely. I can make and receive some calls but the signal and radio are very inconsistent.
After some more testing I can report that it is definitely the rilphone.dll. When I switched back the dll folder from my stock ROM all is well. There must be something else that I am not considering.
Thanks again,
cj
Hi CJ,
Although swapping around the RILPHONE.DLL usually provides functionality, keep in mind that each carrier compiles their own version for their Radio Stack. So in short, the RILPHONE.DLL is generally intended to work with a specific Radio Stack ... it's one of the reasons you'll often see the Radio & RILPHONE.DLL as one package.
HTH,
Thanks HTH,
I did try to flash the appropriate radio with each rilphone.dll which I assume is what you mean by Radio Stack. Sorry to be so noobish on this. I will keep trying. Maybe I did change an important setting. It has been known to happen.
Thanks again,
cj
Correct.
For example, if you look at the Raphael ROM Development forum Radio thread, you will notice that the poster(s) always include the RILPHONE.DLL with the RADIO.NBH file.
Cheers,
Solved!
Ok. so the answer is that I coked in a package called GSM_RSSI. Not really sure what this package does but it seems that it is only found in the ATT Tilt2 Dump. When I disabled that package then the newer dll's work great.
credit arruppenthal. Thanks for the help.
cj
chrisjaffe said:
Ok. so the answer is that I coked in a package called GSM_RSSI. Not really sure what this package does but it seems that it is only found in the ATT Tilt2 Dump. When I disabled that package then the newer dll's work great.
credit arruppenthal. Thanks for the help.
cj
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That package provides ATT functionality and the 5 signal bar graphic. It reads right from rilphone. If you enable it with another ril youll get flashing or no signal bars. If you use the ATT rilphone you get 5 signal bars. If you use custom top bar graphics it will override other dll files. Be sure you remove the corresponding reg keys in oemoperator or you develop other issues.

Desperate situation with P735 ROM upgrade - Please help

Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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for desktop PCs ! if you have by example W7 in French and want to put it in English - I mean to get English package by update- this will not work if you have an OEM license -this is not allowed!
so is that with OEMs if you want to keep license !
for your PDA you must find an unofficial English ROM only! also a way to write it to the phone BUT for this to work DO NOT use Active Sync!
I can't give you more details because don't have a PDA like yours but this problem is interesting
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AsusP said:
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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try a way to write firmware without Active Sync read this post to see you need some way like that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-378907.html
ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/IA/P735 doesn't works more you have to find somewere a firmware in English as I see no longer Asus support they say this is deprecated sorry to hear that
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
..i wonder what would ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe do with your problem..
what's this all about:
p525 had similar problem, that could result in NOT real bricking of device after flash(wrong languague version after reset - device seem to be locked on bootloader then). when tool is used before flash, custom lang roms are working properly(interesting then, what this tool does, btw, as it is launched from WM - so, it may be microflasher, or sth like that).
now...i have strong feeling, that warnings you read about flashing different lang rom, may be related to this ridiculous, small, problem.
issue is, that i do not know, if ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe may help with p735, OR if there's version made for p735.
update: i read this again, slowly:
"Cross-language upgrade is not allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
...they tell you about upgrade TOOL, not rom.
hmmm, so.. what, if you use tool in languague of...ROM?
maybe unlocklangid code is inside flasher, so using proper updater with proper rom is simple solution?
on the other hand - i am making roms for asuses for years, and i never used default flash method - vide usbloader method(and force mode from BL).
i am not going to encourage you to go this way of thinking, but...
AsusP said:
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
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sorry this is just to test my signature will be back but I do not think Android is an option for your phone it is all about technical specs to port Android on that phone and only Asus will have that
by example I know about a project named Andromnia this is how to use Android on Omnia-WM phone
nice try!! but believe me this is about reverse engineering and does not works for now- no gps/gprs/wifi signal and Android crashes
funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used,
EOT/
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funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used, so i found ridiculous whining of ..omnia user here. where were users of omnia, when andoid on that device WAS real?
Now, go and focking buy android bs, you ignored andromnia maker for months, do not whine now.
well, HTC killed everything.
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tell me, what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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You can extract ABI file and flash you device through SD card
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sooo..it seems, that updater BUG is reason, not roms itself here.
funny is, that rom cooking for this machine is quite real, if tools i can see are working.
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upd: ok, so, if i see it right, all you need is to:
fully charge battery,
extact exe, get abi,
copy abi to empty sd card(NOT SHDC!),
go to bootloader(hard to say how - try dpad right + soft reset) and
wait.
when update's done, do hard reset.
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of course, i cannot say at this moment, if whole process is safe, it works fine with zinc device(that seem to have identical flash procedures and SAME cross-lang error when manufacturer way of flashing is used(exe)).
i will try to get more info from my mate asap. cross your fingers, and wait a bit.
here's tool you may try to get abi file from original asus updater EXE file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368401
if it's not working, there's another one, maybe more universal,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511158
btw, are you from Pakistan?
Thanks all of you for your input.
1 - There is NO AsusUnlockLangID.exe for Asus P735 - do not know why.
The one from P535 or P525 is useless on this phone.
2 - Great point about "same-upgrade-tool-language-possibility" yet the official ROM comes in an .exe file that i do not know how to unpack/hack in order to insert the correct ROM or vice-versa.
Could you provide me with some insight for that?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
4 - I am open to any way of flashing, given it provides the right result so all your advices are welcome.
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@Pupakota
Ok, thank you, i've just read your last answer. I'm gonna try the tool you're talking about and inform you of the result.
PS: No, i'm not from Pakistan though i love the country, are you from there?
PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
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PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
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p750 is different pair of shoes, nothing would be useful in this case. do not try any roms made for different devices(trivia, i know).
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i dare to say, that any rom is possible for 735... while searching info, people made every possible build, including 6.5's...ALL chinese :E
rom from exe is exctractable, then fully dumpable, packages are clean and good...
btw, that ABI file is just a renamed rom.bin...
while Activesync method of EXE flashing is wrong, only way of avoiding problem is using SD card flash method then by using that pseudo "abi" file.
dpad to right + softreset should start flash procedure. if not, it may be some key on the right side of the device + soft reset(hard to understand translated chinese...).
but before you decide to try...
could you, AsusP, make photo of bootloader mode?
and please, post link of exe file you were trying to flash, i need it(i mean this english one). for some reason dumped rom from "WWE" version seem to be...hebrew... i really would extract real english rom.
now, only problem is, that besides of one case i did not see any clear information, if sd flash with languague change is safe.
one person wrote it is.
Hi, i'll get back to you ASAP regarding other questions, in the meanwhile here is the link of the firmware in question (that i'm trying to use) :
http://support.asus.com/Download.as...e=P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip#P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip
yup, this one seems to be exactly like one i tried to extract, indeed, it's wwe.
damn, it's OLD
it seems, that cooking custom roms is possible for this device without special problems. new 6.1 or 6.5 should work MUCH faster, than your actual one, or that wwe from asus...
try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?
ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments.
"try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?"
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader? Do you mean the update tool?
"ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments."
I have it in the device yes but i don't have the program/CD if that's what you mean. It could be downloaded though from Asus i think...
PS: WWE stands for...?
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader?
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Bootloader mode flash(with unpacked from exe rom image on sd card) seem to be Only way to update your device.
I am trying to determine risk linked to this method, so i need photo of LOOK of bootloader mode.
You may enter BL mode by pressing dpad RIGHT and making soft reset, if i am right.
then something should appear, and this is what i want you to photograph it for me(with..camera).
of COURSE, do not put abi image on sd card YET, otherwise you start to update, and we do NOT know yet, if you brick your machine or not.
so, at this moment i just ant to see hot it look like, without flashing, if its typical 525/750 bootloader, not some weird thing, i'd assume, that abi file flashing should not brick machine.
sorry or enigmatic words, cannot explain this easier way.
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
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..so not all 735's have 64 mb ram, i'd say, ok?
look, i do not know nothing about your knowledge level, many users of 750's with 128 mb ram are using 64 mb version of roms(typical noob would have no idea to try any different), this is why i mentioned it...
btw, besides using GanFan-ZincROMXtractor's easier way of obtaining rom file from exe is just using restorator, reshack, or similar tool to extract rom at res 152.
result is identical as using zincromextractor, though name of file must be set manually - it is Mars_G4.abi (though, it is not..real abi file, but it doesn't matter).
WWE stands for...?
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english rom...
what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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hey, do you have account on one of chinese pda sites?
could you download and post here any 735 kitchen for me, sir?
i'd like to have a look onto it, but for some reason i am not able to register.
WWE World Wide English - got it.
Pupakota thanks a lot for your efforts, i've had a busy schedule these days, i'll paste you all the info soon.
My knowledge level is basic yet i have some experience of programing from before and i'm very keen to learn about this, more than just using the system.

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