I've just got my X10 today. Unlike other 3 phones, the X10 doesn't have a '3' logo on the phone.
Unfortunately, I don't have any other network simcard. I wonder if anyone here is using 3 network with X10? Is it locked to 3 only?
yes its locked to 3UK, you can get it unlocked at many places online for about £20, some take a few days to send you the code, some take a few hours to 24hours.
jkr284 said:
yes its locked to 3UK, you can get it unlocked at many places online for about £20, some take a few days to send you the code, some take a few hours to 24hours.
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I see. If I unlocked the phone, does that mean that I would be able to use other networks' simcards as well as 3 simcards.
But if I have an unlocked mobile phone from other networks, like O2 or Vodafone, I wouldn't be able to use 3 simcards with them.
Is this correct?
If a phones unlocked you can stick any SIM card in it you want.
I have an unlocked X10 and i've used Orange, O2, and Vodafone SIM's in it with no problems.
Beanyness said:
If a phones unlocked you can stick any SIM card in it you want.
I have an unlocked X10 and i've used Orange, O2, and Vodafone SIM's in it with no problems.
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Yes. I know that. But please read my post carefully.
I meant for an unlocked phone you can use Orange, O2, Vodaphone, etc.
But you can't use 3.
But for a 3 unlocked phone, you can use Orange, O2, Vodaphone and 3.
I think this is correct.
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I'm taking my T-Mobile Vario II from the UK to the US next month and I was wondering if I can simply buy a PAYG SIM card in the States and use this on my phone while I'm there?
I know that the phone is locked so can I buy a T-Mobile SIM and use that?
Cheers.
Out of interest is there any reason why you do not unlock your phone first?
Sure, Cingular and T-mobile both sell prepaid sim cards (though you may be better off trying to get one on ebay first).
A T-mobile UK phone will NOT accept a T-mobile US sim without unlocking it, they are considered different networks and a phone locks itself to the network code.
Keep in mind though that in the US we don't have prepaid data like in the UK. PAYG in the US lacks many other things like roaming and cheap calls abroad.
Wam7 said:
Out of interest is there any reason why you do not unlock your phone first?
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To be honest, I don't know how to! I have a T-Mobile Vario II with the standard ROM.
Are PAYG SIMS available in Canada?
Is Canada considered 'abroad' with regard to a US SIM? And vice versa?
I'm going to both Canada and the US this year and want to know the score.
Thanks
mindracing said:
Is Canada considered 'abroad' with regard to a US SIM? And vice versa?
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When I was in Canada in July, Tmobile2Go SIM would *NOT* register. Note that in late '06 Tmo said 2Go SIMs would get roaming - dunno if that applies to Canada or not though. I just looked online and I'm still not sure You can easily pick up a Nokia 6030 here with a Tmo2Go SIM for ~$40. If you unlock and sell the 6030 it's cheaper than buying a SIM alone from Tmobile.
If your Vario II is a Hermes (I don't know T-mobile model names), you should have little trouble unlocking it using the Wiki instructions here.
PM me if you need help acquiring a US SIM card.
HTH,
Richard
Only Rogers pay as you go sim card has US roaming, but that's really expensive!
Hi,
i'm purchasing this device from a retailer, will be this unlocked? I need to use a vodafone sim with this..
If it's not, can it be easily unlocked?
thanks
It will be SIM free (unlocked) yes. I have a Vodafone SIM in mine.
Of the UK networks apparently only Orange have these exclusively to supply [for 3 months at least - although I dont think they have them in stores yet??] but I believe that they'll be very simple to unlock in any case.
TOPMAN!!!!
blackb1ade said:
It will be SIM free (unlocked) yes. I have a Vodafone SIM in mine.
Of the UK networks apparently only Orange have these exclusively to supply [for 3 months at least - although I dont think they have them in stores yet??] but I believe that they'll be very simple to unlock in any case.
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Where can I get the mine unlocked from and how much will it cost?
I've done a bunch of searching on this and can't find a thing; I know there are certain restrictions on the sims (locked) but that's as far as it goes.
I may be going to Greece (from US) for 2-3 months and am about to buy a Streak here in the US.
Can I use the phone there without having to go through AT&T's "overseas plan"? Can I, for example, use a Vodaphone sim or any other for that matter while I'm away?
Thanks for the help.
EDIT: Almost forgot to ask, what type of speed do I expect compared to ATT's 3G?
Short answer: no, you can't. When the phone is sim-locked, you can't use any other sim cards than att-sims.
Slightly longer answer: you may call att once you get the phone and tell them you will be staying with att, but you're going to greece for 2-3 months. they may send you an unlock code (see the other recently updated unlocking thread). i think you also have to buy the full priced version from dell, not the one with an att subscription. i just sent them a fax with a proof of purchase, because they needed to know the price i paid for the device... good luck!
olemartinorg said:
Short answer: no, you can't. When the phone is sim-locked, you can't use any other sim cards than att-sims.
Slightly longer answer: you may call att once you get the phone and tell them you will be staying with att, but you're going to greece for 2-3 months. they may send you an unlock code (see the other recently updated unlocking thread). i think you also have to buy the full priced version from dell, not the one with an att subscription. i just sent them a fax with a proof of purchase, because they needed to know the price i paid for the device... good luck!
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Seems like you have personal experience with this sort of thing.
So basically, buy a phone at full price and then maybe att will give me an unlock code?
tr8rjohnk said:
Seems like you have personal experience with this sort of thing.
So basically, buy a phone at full price and then maybe att will give me an unlock code?
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Not true.
I've had att provide me with the unlock code for many devices that I paid the subsidized price for.
What you have to do is call them and request it, have your devices imei # available. once they tell you that they can't access the unlock code or whatever the issue ask them what your options are and if they don't suggest to open a case then request to open one. They'll take your email from you and you should get the code within 2 weeks.
Remember to be polite and when they offer you the international roaming package, just kindly deny it and say your more comfortable with using a local sim card. Also good to say that your going overseas for business so they take you nour seriously.
As for the data speeds, find what frequency the network in greece uses then compare that to the streaks
Good luck.
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Why don't you just buy a rebel ii sim card?
fone_fanatic said:
Not true.
I've had att provide me with the unlock code for many devices that I paid the subsidized price for.
What you have to do is call them and request it, have your devices imei # available. once they tell you that they can't access the unlock code or whatever the issue ask them what your options are and if they don't suggest to open a case then request to open one. They'll take your email from you and you should get the code within 2 weeks.
Remember to be polite and when they offer you the international roaming package, just kindly deny it and say your more comfortable with using a local sim card. Also good to say that your going overseas for business so they take you nour seriously.
As for the data speeds, find what frequency the network in greece uses then compare that to the streaks
Good luck.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
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Well, i bought the full priced device - i can't use att when i don't live in the us..
checkbox111 said:
Why don't you just buy a rebel ii sim card?
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1. calling att is cheaper?
2. changing sim cards often when using rebel sim ii is a hassle
3. rebel sim is not a true unlock, and it complicates everything..
but, tr8rjohnk, if att won't give you the unlock code, go ahead and buy a rebel sim ii..
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1. calling att is cheaper?
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Well if you're within a geographical location that allows you to use att i would imagine you would use your att sim
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2. changing sim cards often when using rebel sim ii is a hassle
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Yeah! shutting the phone down, removing the back, taking out the battery, taking out the sim, sliding in the new sim, replacing the battery, putting the cover back on taking all of 5 valuable minutes at the start and the end of your three month tenure could really bring a man down
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3. rebel sim is not a true unlock, and it complicates everything..
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Can you, or can you not, use any sim anywhere within the developed world whilst using a rebel ii sim? Yes! so why is it different from any other unlocking technique
Good info, everyone, thanks for the input. I'll be looking into the rebel sim ii and also speaking with att.
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Well if you're within a geographical location that allows you to use att i would imagine you would use your att sim
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well, me and att are on opposite sides of the atlantic - and calling att for 10 minutes is still much cheaper than ordering (and shipping) the rebel sim..
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Yeah! shutting the phone down, removing the back, taking out the battery, taking out the sim, sliding in the new sim, replacing the battery, putting the cover back on taking all of 5 valuable minutes at the start and the end of your three month tenure could really bring a man down
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and cutting your sim? i haven't tried the rebel sim yet, (because i just unlocked my att streak with the unlock code i received) but i've heard it's more than just 'sliding in another sim'.
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Can you, or can you not, use any sim anywhere within the developed world whilst using a rebel ii sim? Yes! so why is it different from any other unlocking technique
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well, it's different in that you phone is still locked to a provider.. have you read any other threads about rebel sim? until rebel sim released the new firmware for their sims, 3g did't work properly.. as i said, it complicates things... i just punched in my 8 digit code i got from att (called them on friday), and the streak works like a charm with my (uncut) norwegian sim card..
guys, calling Att is for the US sold ATT devices. I'm pretty sure, but not 100%, that they can tell from the imei if it was sold via dell.com in the US or not. If not i don't think they'll issue you the unlock code, unless the unlock code generator that LBK Tech for At&t has doesn't distinguish the imeis
Can i root him?
The botloader is locked or unlocked?
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Can i root him?
The botloader is locked or unlocked?
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I cannot say for definite. As far as I currently know sim free phones and contract phones from Three come boatloader unlocked.
However my HTC HD2 on contract with Virgin a few years back came sim/bloatware free so I'd wager it could be a possibility.
3 UK devices are unlockable, not unlocked
The phone is not sim free now but i can unlocked him for sim free..
i just need to know if i can root him ..the botloader is unlocked?
The phone from virgin and not from three
Sure, my 3 uk is sim and bootloader unlocked and thus rootable.
What I meant to say is although I cannot say for definite, what I remember from having a contact phone with Virgin myself is that they used to send was a sim free phone pretty much like those from the cpwh and phones4u.
I'd phone Virgin personally. I am with Virgin myself but baulked at the price they were charging.
How can i know if the bootloader is locked?
Really love everything I've seen about this phone and I'm currently looking at finding it for the best price. I'd rather keep my cheap sim only deal and buy it outright. Anyway the best price I can see around is from O2 at only £289.99 (then cashback from Quidco/Topcashback brings it down to £275). They also seem to allow unlocking to other networks (https://www.o2.co.uk/apps/help/help?qid=1&q1=2&route=unlocking&case=Handset Unlocking Form).
I've been reading here and can see that there is a way to root the phone and install a custom OS without falling into Sony's DRM trap (http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343/page13). So I can unlock it and remove any O2 specific branding their might be in the OS.
However the last thing I need to know is this. Does this model have any O2 specific branding on the phone itself (as in logo's on the casing ect?).
If anyone with the O2 model could just let me know I'd appreciate it.
I just got this phone, No O2 branding on case, boot animation is O2 bubbles and a couple of apps inside.
But the biggest setback is the service configuration for Boot loader unlock allowed = NO
So I think I can get root but that all! :crying:
Yup o2 give you devices with no ability to unlock bootloader
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O2 Slovakia gave out Z3C with unlockable BL + Generic CE1 firmware (no carrier BS).
Thanks to everyone for the replies. I couldnt live with a phone that's impossible to customize, especially with branding on it. So my next option is a D5833 version of the phone for £289. I believe this is the Asian version? But looking at the wireless bands it supports it would seem it will be fine on EE in the UK?
Ok, I checked out the manual for the Z3 Compact D5833 against the wireless bands used in the UK and it supports all those used by EE (2G, 3G and 4G) and only doesn't support 4G on Three and O2. I usually go with any of the EE network providers as its best in my area so I've gone with this phone for £289, delivered tomorrow, can't wait
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Ok, I checked out the manual for the Z3 Compact D5833 against the wireless bands used in the UK and it supports all those used by EE (2G, 3G and 4G) and only doesn't support 4G on Three and O2. I usually go with any of the EE network providers as its best in my area so I've gone with this phone for £289, delivered tomorrow, can't wait
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Would you say where you purchased from?
thanks in advance
DonnieDio said:
Ok, I checked out the manual for the Z3 Compact D5833 against the wireless bands used in the UK and it supports all those used by EE (2G, 3G and 4G) and only doesn't support 4G on Three and O2. I usually go with any of the EE network providers as its best in my area so I've gone with this phone for £289, delivered tomorrow, can't wait
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Are you sure? I bought an unbranded one from giffgaff. Using one of their sims which use the O2 network and the phone displays a 4g signal
I bought the D5803 when it was £239.99 (+free Chromecast) on O2 PAYG. The firmware is O2 specific and branded, but easily changed to the 3 firmware by flashing. No logos on the handset itself.
The biggest pain was getting it unlocked via code, the codes are much more expensive for this phone on eBay. One seller couldn't get me a code after a week of waiting, then another got me one in 24 hours (for £10).
Really happy with it so far and an absolute bargain for a brand-new phone from an official retailer.
I have from o2 germany. Just some bloatware. No hw brandind,bl unlockable. Just debranded it with ce1 fw