htc hd2 might not get WinMo 6.5.3 as upgrade from htc - HD2 General

New Response From [ Teeva (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Dear Customer
Thank you for contacting HTC
The HTC HD2 was released to the market with the Windows Mobile 6.5 operating system. HTC is unable to confirm that this or any device will receive a future firmware update which will involve an upgrade to the operating system.
We are excited about future developments and are working closely with many partners and will post further information on our website.
We are unable to comment further on current developments in mobile technology. Please review the latest news announcement below regarding Windows Phone 7 Series:
Best Regards,

winmo7 said:
New Response From [ Teeva (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Dear Customer
Thank you for contacting HTC
The HTC HD2 was released to the market with the Windows Mobile 6.5 operating system. HTC is unable to confirm that this or any device will receive a future firmware update which will involve an upgrade to the operating system.
We are excited about future developments and are working closely with many partners and will post further information on our website.
We are unable to comment further on current developments in mobile technology. Please review the latest news announcement below regarding Windows Phone 7 Series:
Best Regards,
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The cup is half full or half empty. Based on the respons from HTC, the title of your post might as well be " htc hd2 might get WinMo 6.5.3 as upgrade from htc"

This kind of question never gets answered, neither positive neither negative. Meaningless.

Honestly, 6.5.3 was made JUST for devices like the HD2. If they don't give it WM7 they have to give it 6.5.3. In any case, i don't care, i am running 6.5.3 either way. Only issue is the dialer, which at one point they will fix on another device anyways!

firaX said:
Honestly, 6.5.3 was made JUST for devices like the HD2. If they don't give it WM7 they have to give it 6.5.3. In any case, i don't care, i am running 6.5.3 either way. Only issue is the dialer, which at one point they will fix on another device anyways!
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I expect it is already fixed on the HD mini. (which I have seen running a 5.2.23101 build on a video)

as long as they give WP7, i will be happy

Why would you want to get 6.5.3 when you can get wm7

well thats what we hope..

Just a very standard reply from official... to avoid any problem.
No point, no content.

xmoo said:
Why would you want to get 6.5.3 when you can get wm7
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634048

Same as ever: Companies using the Schrödinger's cat policy. Wait and see.
Every mail related to HD2 updates said:
Dear customer,
Thank you for contacting HTC.
The HTC HD2 was made to support Windows Mobile 6.5 and released as such. I am a technical support operative, charged to check if your phone has any problems, try to repair them remotely by giving you instructions, and in case I fail, eventually have it returned to the factory for physical repairs.
I cannot get any information related to the development of the HTC HD2 operating system at this time, as I'm not a developer and do not have proper clearance to escalate this issue and ask, and I honestly do not give a damn.
If we do plan to provide upgrades to a newer version of the operating system, then I cannot know at this time. Maybe we do. Maybe we don't. For more information about this issue, please buy a plane ticket to Taoyuan, Taiwan, and ask our headquarters directly.
[Insert propaganda about how HTC is always doing its best to satisfy the customer's needs]
Best regards.
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xmoo said:
Why would you want to get 6.5.3 when you can get wm7
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Why would you want minmo 7 when they have no confirmed no backward softeware compatability..!
I doubt HTC will release any OS updates for the HD2, they dont unless stated when the device is released, generally.

Yunabeco said:
Same as ever: Companies using the Schrödinger's cat policy. Wait and see.
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Just using a get-out "claws" (clause)! Never mind WM 6.5.3 or WM7 - is the cat alive or dead?

stoolzo said:
I doubt HTC will release any OS updates for the HD2, they dont unless stated when the device is released, generally.
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That's true, but 6.5.3 will be a super incremental upgrade so there is some hoping. 6.5 itself was a stopgap, so 6.5.3 can't be anything more than something incremental that any other company like Apple or Palm would provide OTA for free.
They never even announced 6.5.3, right? It just sort of started appearing on devices about two weeks ago.
I'm hoping the next ROM update for the HD2 might be 6.5.3... I haven't been able to find a truly clean ROM here, even the lite ROMs seem to have a few extra things 'snuck' in. A clean and official 6.5.3 with the simple black theme like the HD Mini has would be great for me.
Anyway, WP7 isn't coming out for another 10 months at least and doesn't seem like the HD2 will get a successor until then either... would really be nice of HTC if they didn't abandon their flagship (WM) device already. Give us 6.5.3 please, it's basically just finishing what 6.5 started.

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[OUTDATED] HTC Confirmed WM7 coming to HD2

i assume we can end all speculations now as to whether HD2 will receive Windows Mobile 7 Upgrade. here are the sources
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=11753
Quote "Great news for current and future HTC HD2 owners! HTC has confirmed, via their official Russian twitter channel, that the HTC HD2 will be getting an official Windows Mobile 7 upgrade."
http://pocketnow.com/rumor/htc-confirms-that-hd2-gets-windows-mobile-7-on-twitter
Quote "We just got an interesting news tip pointing to the HTC Twitter account from Russia. The tweet mentions that the only HTC device currently on the market to receive a Windows Mobile 7 upgrade will be the HD2. And we've suspected this for a while, considering that the HD2 meets Microsoft's hardware requirements for Windows Mobile 7. Here's what they said:
for Diamond 2 firmware is not planned. Of the existing communicators on the market, only the HD2 firmware to get WM7."
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/8865.html
Quote "will HTC HD2 - the first Windows Mobile phone with multitouch - get official upgrade to Windows Mobile 7?
Yes, it will be announced shortly after Microsoft will announce Windows Mobile 7 to the public."
Official HTC Twitter link
http://twitter.com/HTC_Ru/status/7192147430
Engadget Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/30/htc-russia-says-hd2-will-get-windows-mobile-7-upgrade-but-other/
Very very cool ^ ^
wohooo! awesome!
HTC Russia? Are the official?
Nice news...
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Article on msmobile what dumb idiot was compacting that!!
Usefull or not ?
Windows mobile 7 will be released at the end of 2010. If i'm not wrong. So i guess most of HD2 users will be looking onto a brand sexiest new HTC device.
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I think the HD2 is powerful enough and sexy enough to be on the top even at the end of 2010.
Also, with the talented chefs in this site we will see the WM7 on our device long before it is officially released. To me thats a win win deal
zooklov said:
Windows mobile 7 will be released at the end of 2010. If i'm not wrong. So i guess most of HD2 users will be looking onto a brand sexiest new HTC device.
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From what i see, the only limitation HD2 will face is the built in storage. most of us are already aware of the fact that the internal storage, though quoted 512MB from the specs, only 150MB+ is available to the end user, whereas WM7 specs require at least 1GB. the rest of the components are already ahead of time. the best android device in 2010 is only on par in terms of specs with HD2.
youmeus said:
I think the HD2 is powerful enough and sexy enough to be on the top even at the end of 2010.
Also, with the talented chefs in this site we will see the WM7 on our device long before it is officially released. To me thats a win win deal
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yep!! .. justlike it went with WM6.5
We can look forward to the first WM7 beta getting leaked in Q1 2009, way before the official release (a la WM6.5).
Absolutely ! Already looking forward to that
NSider said:
We can look forward to the first WM7 beta getting leaked in Q1 2009, way before the official release (a la WM6.5).
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Damn - Q1 2009, and I missed it! lol
HTC HD2 получит обновление до WM7, indeed.
That's great news. HD2 will remain the best ppc for a long time.
alexnvidia said:
From what i see, the only limitation HD2 will face is the built in storage. most of us are already aware of the fact that the internal storage, though quoted 512MB from the specs, only 150MB+ is available to the end user, whereas WM7 specs require at least 1GB. the rest of the components are already ahead of time. the best android device in 2010 is only on par in terms of specs with HD2.
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With this particular spec issue, should we expect that memory limitation to cause problems for the ROM chefs attempting to port WM7 to the HD2 in 2010?
DavidC1980 said:
With this particular spec issue, should we expect that memory limitation to cause problems for the ROM chefs attempting to port WM7 to the HD2 in 2010?
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with the new custom roms its now close to 240 mb of free space
Awesome news, I am glad I didn't buy N900.
Probably not as we can assume that the HD2 will also be on the list of test (and demo) devices HTC will be distributing to their techs and testers.
Same goes for Microsoft, they'll need some kind of hardware to test their builds on. Sure they'll have test devices of the unreleased kind also but you can't really use those in public
my point being, if the winmob 7 beta's start leaking, I expect them to be coming with full support for our HD2's since the beta will most likely be ripped off of one to start with.
my 2 cents
DicE
DavidC1980 said:
With this particular spec issue, should we expect that memory limitation to cause problems for the ROM chefs attempting to port WM7 to the HD2 in 2010?
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Damn - Q1 2009, and I missed it! lol
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Heh, you know what I meant.
Maybe I am wrong but want is the point of having a new windows mobile 7 on our phone if we are just going to be use the excellent HTC Sense UI? Its like when titanium came out, the majority of chose to use Sense/TouchFlo as it was better in terms of eye candy and function. Windows mobile 7 will I guess have new menus and finger friendliness just like 6.5.3 but Sense will still cover up the majorty of Windows mobile 7 UI/OS. Do you get what I am trying to say here? I doubt it would be so amazing for me to disable Sense. I love Sense.

next official rom update for the HD2 Europe version?

Any news about that?
the next one should be with windows mobile 6.5.x
for more support of the capacitive screen
anxifer said:
the next one should be with windows mobile 6.5.x
for more support of the capacitive screen
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Because can it be that HTC have given up on updating the HD2 already?
Euroman28 said:
Because can it be that HTC have given up on updating the HD2 already?
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I don't think, that HTC has given up on the HD2, yet.
This tweet might be of interest.
to everyone asking about HD2 & Windows Phone 7 Series; nothing announced yet but there may be info coming next month
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http://twitter.com/windowsphone/status/9181323569
...either there will be a statement about HD2 being "transformed" into a WP7S-device with an update, or HTC might tell us that they have prepared WM 6.5.x for the HD2
Nobody knows yet....but I don't think HTC has "left us"
The last update has been 2-3 weeks ago... what do you expect seriously? I also don't think that the next update will contain WM6.5.x-crap. If the HD2 is meant to get an WM7-update then I'm almost sure that HD2 won't get this version. But all we can do is speculating...
de Wolfe said:
The last update has been 2-3 weeks ago... what do you expect seriously? I also don't think that the next update will contain WM6.5.x-crap. If the HD2 is meant to get an WM7-update then I'm almost sure that HD2 won't get this version. But all we can do is speculating...
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What I seriously think is that there is a chance, that we will get a WM 6.5.3 update.
Yes, it's been 3 weeks since the last ROM, and so? The ROM before that was released in the beginning of December, so about 7 weeks.
...and when is MIX'10? In about a month....so why does this sound so wrong? Especially if the US models get the 6.5.3 ROM, then it wouldn't be so hard to make a version for the unbranded HD2
But yes, we don't know what might og might not happen
if they want to update hd2 to 6.5.3 they would have updated it in the 1.66 roms i think the next update will not be 6.5.3
they really should make an update because there are still so many unsolved issues that really annoy us users (sms lag, ...). Maybe they are already working on it and it will be released when there is a stable version of the newest windows build.
What about win6.5.3 combine with the new version of sense ?
Arent we due WM6.6 soon?
Starfury said:
Arent we due WM6.6 soon?
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We will properly get a 2.00 Rom with Windows Mobile 6.5.3 and some updates included. Maybe a new Youtube Client? Which would allow you to access your youtube account like you can Iphone?
But in my opinion getting an official WM7 HD2 upgrade is a likely as me being invited home by some random woman on this or any friday(Which is very unlikely!)
/Fred
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We will properly get a 2.00 Rom with Windows Mobile 6.5.3 and some updates included. Maybe a new Youtube Client? Which would allow you to access your youtube account like you can Iphone?
But in my opinion getting an official WM7 HD2 upgrade is a likely as me being invited home by some random woman on this or any friday(Which is very unlikely!)
/Fred
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If we believe HTC on twitter:
'for Diamond 2 firmware is not planned. Of the existing communicators on the market, only the HD2 firmware to get WM7'
think you better keep your friday nights free towards the end of the year when the OS is eventually released!!!
i think that 6.5.3 update can be a concrete possibility....i don't want to believe that Htc could leave us without this update....

What HTC says about new official WM6.5.3 ROM

Hello!
I send to HTC a mail with a question will and when will be a new ROM upgrade to a new WM6.5.3. for HD2.
Here is HTC answer:
"Dear QQQ,
Thank you for contacting us,
Kindly note that your device was manufactured for the Czech Republic. So regarding any updates or hotfixes for your phone it’ll be through the Czech Republic page. However, the compatible Rom Upgrade for your phone is not yet released on that page. But it should be released soon. Kindly check on our website from time to time regarding new releases for new softwares."
So does it mean it will be or it will be only a new ROM with "old" WM6.5?
What do you think?
The answer is not really and the guy from HTC who answered doesn't seem to know what you were talking about when you mentionned WM6.5.3...
I don't think we should wait for a 6.5.3 upgrade, 'cause even if it's a minor upgrade, it's the same situation than for the HD which was released with WM6.1 and never upgraded officially with WM6.5 :/
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it's the same situation than for the HD which was released with WM6.1 and never upgraded officially with WM6.5 :/
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Which is why I cant wait for WP7S at least then we'll get OTA updates straight away instead of having to wait for htc or phone operators to offer up a updated ROM
It would be very sad if they dont make compatabile 6.5.3 ROM for HD2. It's silly if they just stop in inventing in HD2
Smartmob said:
It's silly if they just stop in inventing in HD2
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Well lucky for us, we have XDA.
wow he was really talking out his a$$ it would of been announce one way or another through some blog. now and days its hard for some one to keep things in the low especially HTC now that their getting to be bigger and bigger by the minute. i would see that coming from palm or danger (sidekick) nobody even cares about them any more so if they release some update nobody would really care other than device owners. sorry for getting out of the topic a bit but 6.5.3 would see the light by the end of the end of year microsoft putting all their brains on windows 7. hd2 for t-mobile might be the last windows 6.5 of the year in a american carrier
I ask this question to HTC: "Is the HTC HD2 going to get a windows mobile 6.5.3 ROM upgrade?"
And this is their answer: "Dear Eric Lui, Thank you for choosing HTC! Regarding to ROM update issue, we are sorry to inform you that currently we do not have the information of the WM6.5.3 ROM upgrade for HTC HD2. If any update in future, HTC will release the news on the website once any update, Please pay attention to our Official website for the update. In addition, we had recorded your information, and we will inform you in advance once any update related with HTC HD2. Thanks a lot for your understanding and cooperation."
Hope this can help.
HTC releases too many devices and they actually don't care of upgrades for current devices. Even if it's hi-end device like HD2. They will rather release HD3 than make official WM6.5.3 ROM for HD2. You have to pay for anything
I'm using Samsung Omnia II. I like this phone and i like Samsung attitude to their products. It came originally with WM6.1. Then it got upgrade to WM6.5. Now it get another upgrade to WM6.5.3. Same phone - 2 major upgrades.
Yes, it's possible to make your own WM6.5.3 ROM, but alas you can not tweak all OEM applications to be compatible with 6.5.3. That's why official upgrade is the key point.
Without official upgrade to 6.5.3 from HTC, user won't get normal HTC dialer/callerID. They will stick either to 235xx builds or add workaround to fix incompatibility. I even don't mention about minor graphics issues after migrating from 6.5 to 6.5.3.

Official HTC update to WM 6.5.3?

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone knows if HTC will be releasing the 6.5.3 builds of WM on the HD2? I prefer this build as it is more finger friendly and looks cleaner. Also is the any Clean 6.5.3 roms out for the HD2?
Thanks in advance.
I don't think we gonna get any updates for HD2 for WM 6.5.xxx..!!!
heartsurfer008 said:
I don't think we gonna get any updates for HD2 for WM 6.5.xxx..!!!
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May I aks you why are you so sure? Does this apply to all versions, including T-Mobile US one?
vponomarev said:
May I aks you why are you so sure?
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because MS want everyone to buy shiny new wp7 phones.
Does this apply to all versions, including T-Mobile US one?
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If T Mo US want to fork out a fat fist full of cash to MS, they might, but i'd give REALLY big odds that they wont. Why would they? they have sold out in the first week, thats their investment back, now all they have to do is sit back, wait for wp7 and start the whole circus again.
No one is going to offer upgrades, I suspect. The only way forward as i see it for 6.5.x is as a side line to the wp7. Maybe the 'business' range, alongside wp7 as the consumer range.
jagger2k said:
Hey guys, just wondering if anyone knows if HTC will be releasing the 6.5.3 builds of WM on the HD2? I prefer this build as it is more finger friendly and looks cleaner. Also is the any Clean 6.5.3 roms out for the HD2?
Thanks in advance.
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I asked HTC, and they said that there are no plans on 6.5.3 release in near future.
Oh that sucks, ah well, that what you brilliant people are here for lol
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I asked HTC, and they said that there are no plans on 6.5.3 release in near future.
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That does it for me, now i'm realy going to flash my device!
I have waited for a new HTC ROM update and wanted at least 6.5.3 on my device or even better 6.5.5... SO!
AND flashing gives me a faster better device, so! Thanks! And THANKS HTC!
I sent message to HTC. I asked when we get a new WM 6.5.3 on our HTC HD 2. They wrote me that they nothing know about new ROM updates for HD2.... So we must waiting, but if we don't get new WM from HTC in near future I flash my HD2
What is the point of these builds then? the only phone i know which will have it is that nasty sony ericsson trying to be a blackberry.
Great! WP7S is out of the question, and now 6.5.3/5 is out as well...
I really expected to a more finger friendly OS on the HD2...
HTC and MS are really working hard to make their customer go and buy an iPhone...
liamR said:
Great! WP7S is out of the question, and now 6.5.3/5 is out as well...
I really expected to a more finger friendly OS on the HD2...
HTC and MS are really working hard to make their customer go and buy an iPhone...
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I think they are aming for us to buy the new WinMo 7 phones...
I'll be surprised if there isn't another ROM release. The stock carrier ROMs are quite a way behind those on unlocked phones for a start and I imagine there's a risk of losing customers to the competition if support isn't seen to be provided. My guess is that the various 'flavours'' of HD2 will be updated so that they have the same OS and applications.
Windows Phone 7 doesn't look appealing to me and if I want a locked down phone, I'll get an iPhone.
What does the updates do?
what are you complaing about from what i see wp7 is not very good. it looks ugly i heard it doesnt have file copy/paste etc. why would you want a phone that you cant move your files around. this is the perfect phone because it has all the power of the new wp7 series phones and theres a need to develop new software/roms etc. i think this phone is sick mate. im sure pretty soon they will get android up and running. forget wp7 i looking forward to dual booting android which whichever rom i take the liking too. my point is stop complaining and enjoy the phone.
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what are you complaing about from what i see wp7 is not very good. it looks ugly i heard it doesnt have file copy/paste etc. why would you want a phone that you cant move your files around. this is the perfect phone because it has all the power of the new wp7 series phones and theres a need to develop new software/roms etc. i think this phone is sick mate. im sure pretty soon they will get android up and running. forget wp7 i looking forward to dual booting android which whichever rom i take the liking too. my point is stop complaining and enjoy the phone.
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This topic has nothing to do with WM7, This is about 6.5.3 which is an updated version of 6.5. Let not turn this into a 7.0 discussion.
Any news? How could be possible that we won't receive any new upgrade? Many manufacturers are upgrading their phones. Samsung Omnia II got WM 6.5.3, Toshiba TG01 will get Windows Mobile 6.5.5
Why HTC is so disrespectful of its customers?
mjordan79 said:
Any news? How could be possible that we won't receive any new upgrade? Many manufacturers are upgrading their phones. Samsung Omnia II got WM 6.5.3, Toshiba TG01 will get Windows Mobile 6.5.5
Why HTC is so disrespectful of its customers?
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They are, aren't they.
I enjoy hacking my phone but if the last update really is the last, I'll look elsewhere for my next phone. Mine still has bugs out of the box and I'd expect these to be addressed on a £500 device at the very least.
Leaving the HD2 in it's current state, with the underlying OS being touch unfriendly, is an odd decision. I wonder how long Windows Phone 7 will be supported. I fear another Vista. Will we be discussing Windows Phone 8 in a year's tIme?
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They are, aren't they.
I enjoy hacking my phone but if the last update really is the last, I'll look elsewhere for my next phone. Mine still has bugs out of the box and I'd expect these to be addressed on a £500 device at the very least.
Leaving the HD2 in it's current state, with the underlying OS being touch unfriendly, is an odd decision. I wonder how long Windows Phone 7 will be supported. I fear another Vista. Will we be discussing Windows Phone 8 in a year's tIme?
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Isn't that the point... WP7 will eventually lead to WP8, it's a moving target. If you want 6.5.3 or 6.5.5 you can install a cooked ROM that has it. The great thing is that... MS is continuing to develop the 6.5.X series and... the cooks are getting it to us.
My point isn't the inevitability of Windows Phone8, it's a question of how long 7 will be supported. Manufacturers seem to have forgotten that users have contracts with their phones and will need to keep them for 2 years or more before upgrading. The HD2 had very little support, leaving owners of this flagship device with an out-of-date machine after a few months. Other phone suppliers continue to provide upgrades to their ranges. I won't forget this when I need a new phone, especially since my phone still has bugs. HTC will lose customers. Whether they care about this or not is another matter but I'd aim to keep my customers in the current climate, even if I only sell each of them one phone every 2 years.
I'm waiting for a reply to my bug report.
We should all make some pressure on HTC.Send them e-mails, post on blogs, contact newspapers, etc etc...
HTC should change this their bad support. We buy a 600$ device and get a 6 month support, no upgrades (only bugfixes, and not for all bugs).
This is not what people expect from a company such as HTC.

[Discuss]How microsoft and htc failed us an upgrade

With reference to my enquiry to htc for an official android rom for the hd2.
Thank you for contacting HTC. With reference to your query, regarding the operating system, due to the Embedded Operating Systems License Agreement we have signed with the operating system developer Microsoft, we are sorry that HTC will not be able to change the operating system for your phone. It will be restricted to the original one. We are sorry for any inconvenience caused and thank you for your consideration! Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services.
Should you require further assistance, you can get in touch with us again via hotline or email. To write to us directly, you can go to http:// www.htc.com/sea/CS_Mail.aspx and select SG from the country list. It will be our pleasure to serve you again. We look forward to be of service to you again.
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And yet, microsoft denys us of having a windows phone 7 update. This shows how simple minded and selfish microsoft is.
Firstly, the 5 button issue. We can take that the power button just moved down to the front. And also the windows icon can be the camera and the home button could be the search button!
If microsoft does not provide us an update, why not let htc create android for the hd2? Who the hell wants to use winmo6.5? Its like, SO. LAST. CENTURY.
Winmo does not have flash 10, only flash lite, and thats not good enough for us to enjoy full flash experience on the winmo6.5 browser. Skyfire and opera has already stopped support for winmo6.5 .
Nice, I see a very "nokia's symbian" like phone right in front of me...
Feel free to share your comments.
Let me be honest: I don´t see any sense in a thread like this.
If you hate Microsoft or HTC, or even both, why do you buy a product from them?
As of today, it is standard that you cannot officially change the OS on your smartphone, but developers and chefs like here at xda make this possible for you. So, where´s the problem?
I fully agree with you that it would have been a great step by HTC to officially offer Android or WP7 for HD2 - now that would have been an amazing (and probably strategically wise) decision of HTC. But, they don´t make such a thing happen. I don´t blame them for that.
The future will show if HTC can continue a healthy growth, but I think this will not really depend on some "geeks" like us. Eighty per cent of the users don´t care about such things. All they want is an everyday use device; too many changes are not really what the masses want.
Title change. People may get misleaded...
tictac0566 said:
Let me be honest: I don´t see any sense in a thread like this.
If you hate Microsoft or HTC, or even both, why do you buy a product from them?
As of today, it is standard that you cannot officially change the OS on your smartphone, but developers and chefs like here at xda make this possible for you. So, where´s the problem?
I fully agree with you that it would have been a great step by HTC to officially offer Android or WP7 for HD2 - now that would have been an amazing (and probably strategically wise) decision of HTC. But, they don´t make such a thing happen. I don´t blame them for that.
The future will show if HTC can continue a healthy growth, but I think this will not really depend on some "geeks" like us. Eighty per cent of the users don´t care about such things. All they want is an everyday use device; too many changes are not really what the masses want.
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Hey bro, we were promised windows phone 7 remember?
Without official, nothings really complete, cause htc has the fully working drivers that the devs all want their hands on...
Fully functional if all the kernels and stuff were released to devs from htc.
I think most hd2 users want an upgrade but dont bother to complain.
Imagine if we had just one stock rom from htc... All cameras/camcorders will work. No wifi broken or bluetooth etc.
What more, others are making the switch to sensation or other preloaded android.
*I would if i could too
calvinfoo said:
Hey bro, we were promised windows phone 7 remember?
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Please help me, when and where were we promised to get WP7 on our HD2, I can't remenber that I ever read something like that...
...and due to WP7 restrictions, I'm very happy with WM6.
calvinfoo said:
Hey bro, we were promised windows phone 7 remember?
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We were never "promised" any such thing. We simply had a Microsoft spokesmen saying something like "It will be looked into" or maybe somebody saying unofficially "yeah it will happen" which is in no way any sort of official stance on the subject.
calvinfoo said:
Hey bro, we were promised windows phone 7 remember?
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when? where and please give a direct source, as it was NEVER promised by either HTC or M$ that the phone would get wp7
i bought the phone at the time because of the hardware not because of any future upgrade paths, if android hadnt come along id still be quite happily using winmo 6.5.x
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With reference to my enquiry to htc for an official android rom for the hd2.
And yet, microsoft denys us of having a windows phone 7 update. This shows how simple minded and selfish microsoft is.
Firstly, the 5 button issue. We can take that the power button just moved down to the front. And also the windows icon can be the camera and the home button could be the search button!
If microsoft does not provide us an update, why not let htc create android for the hd2? Who the hell wants to use winmo6.5? Its like, SO. LAST. CENTURY.
Winmo does not have flash 10, only flash lite, and thats not good enough for us to enjoy full flash experience on the winmo6.5 browser. Skyfire and opera has already stopped support for winmo6.5 .
Nice, I see a very "nokia's symbian" like phone right in front of me...
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I have Windows XP, why didn't I get a free upgrade to Windows 7. The new version of my car has parking sensors as standard, can I ask for them to retro fit it to my car for free?
We are entitled to updates not upgrades. I could have went from 1.48 to 1.72 to 3.14 ROM - these are updates to both WinMo and Sense.
The only thing that was stupid for microsoft was that they didn't officially or even unofficially allow the HD2 to be upgraded, not to please HD2 users but just to boost the WP7 Market numbers - these increased numbers would have persuaded more Marketplace developers.
WinMo may well be 'so last century' but it does well what I need it to do. The only weakness is development of apps. There is apps you can get for the iphone that you cannot get on the Android and visa versa, so are they so last century. Microsoft were way behind in developing (copying) the iphone marketplace and now they have went the full way by copying the iphone (WP7).
There is not a website that I have come accross that I cannot view the contents. Having XP I don't get to install IE9 and now IE10. Oh deary me, what can I do?
I've lost count of manufacturer's specific operating systems that just died. They hoped that it would lead to a vast app market (and so did the folks that bought these phones), only to find sod all.
tictac0566 said:
Let me be honest: I don´t see any sense in a thread like this.
If you hate Microsoft or HTC, or even both, why do you buy a product from them?
As of today, it is standard that you cannot officially change the OS on your smartphone, but developers and chefs like here at xda make this possible for you. So, where´s the problem?
I fully agree with you that it would have been a great step by HTC to officially offer Android or WP7 for HD2 - now that would have been an amazing (and probably strategically wise) decision of HTC. But, they don´t make such a thing happen. I don´t blame them for that.
The future will show if HTC can continue a healthy growth, but I think this will not really depend on some "geeks" like us. Eighty per cent of the users don´t care about such things. All they want is an everyday use device; too many changes are not really what the masses want.
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I agree to what you say.
According to me what the OP is trying to convey to the people is that Microsoft and HTC both neglected the potential of a device which was both in terms of hardware and software potentially capable of running two operating systems being Android and Windows Phone 7.
Now looking at Microsoft's customer support. In the past in terms of OS upgradability MS was generous enough to offer people free upgrades.
Example: People who bought the laptops two months before Windows 7 was released were offered free upgrades.
Now that's just an example but we can clearly relate this to as to why MS didn't do the same with the HD2. Now Why ?? I don't have an answer to that and the only man according to me who can answer that is http://twitter.com/#!/joebelfiore perhaps you can contact him and ask him personally.
Now coming to HTC.
Clearly the people at HTC know by now that yes HD2 is capable of running Android super smoothly without any problems.
Now the question is, once HTC HD2 was released as a flagship Windows Mobile device back then even HTC knew that HD2 is the best windows mobile phone in the market... So why will they change the license agreement with Microsoft and release Android ?? I am not a HTC official but the answer to this wont be in our favor for sure.
Also HD2 was the device which provided the genesis of HTC Sense. And I dont say this but Drew Bamford the product engineer at HTC does.
His full talk can be found here: http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/23/the-engadget-show-003-drew-bamford-joystiqs-chris-grant-ad/
So in short...its a million dollar industry guys...a multinational company..these kind of decisions just don't take place out of the blue moon.
However I will be really happy if HTC releases an official Android Rom.
(Which seems kind of challenging specially with the unethical change of the Windows Logo to become the Menu in Android )
http://www.dkszone.net/htc-working-on-official-android-2.3-update-for-htc-hd2
also, who cares about "official" roms anymore!? the first thing i did when i got my hd2 is to flash an energy (winmo 6.5) rom on it!
owing to the fact what the hd2 hardware is capable of it is pure nonsense htc and microsoft cannot release wp7 for hd2. hardware button mapping can be distributed easily with the only limitation being a soft key for camera operation.
though we were never promised such an update, my view still holds. they can but they wont. htc has already made hd7 and microsoft wp7 on it. they wana sell it. they want money.
thing is they cant get a profit if they were to release an update. and the other thing is even though some of us are even ready to buy a wp7 OS update to hd2 if they release...soon the OS update wud release asap to the masses (think of one such site in particular) and we wud be flashing for free.
so ultimately its the profit they are after. so hd2 is a done deal and no more.
and since are at it. here is a slogan
HTC (quietly ignorant)
hehe
i dropped $ on the HD2 mere months before the HD7 release because the tmo sales guy at the ritzy tmo store 'claimed' very intently that 'oh for SURE htc & tmo love me enough to do the right thing' by upgrading my hd2 to the hd7 system.
sucker for the latest tech candy.........me.
it was my first large smartphone purchase from a featureless clamshell w/no color display.
it showed.
it won't happen again.
the cell phone manufacturers and providers are going to find that in a few short years that peeps like me are a thing of the past, and have to become transparent.
or find new ways to trick us.
gig tiers is 1 way...
imagine if your p.c. was treated the same as the smartphones are...
lol, i give it 5 years and voila! home internet split into 6 overpriced underpowered gig tiers...
i miss the interwebs of '95...heck BBS of '87 was cool.
btw i agree with the op.
entirely.
kidrythm said:
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imagine if your p.c. was treated the same as the smartphones are...
lol, i give it 5 years and voila! home internet split into 6 overpriced underpowered gig tiers...
i miss the interwebs of '95...heck BBS of '87 was cool.
btw i agree with the op.
entirely.
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So you got a free upgrade from Win95 to Win98 to Win2000 to WinXP to Win Vista to Win7?
How many had to replace their perfectly working printer because it would not work with a new operating system because the manufacturer didn't update the drivers?
I have had phones that were WinMo5 with no official upgrade to WinMo6 or 6.5 and WinMo6 with no upgrade to WinMo6.5. I did get those upgrades thanks to the extremely clever chefs on here.
As I have said before that I think that microsoft were stupid not the allow an upgrade to WP7. Not for pleasing existing customers, but to get more users to their brand new Apps Market and also keep them when they went for a new phone.

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