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[REQ] / [QUE] Spotify for Windows Mobile

Hi guys!
Ive been hearing and reading stuff about spotify for mobile phones being developed.
Some sources say they only plan to launch apps for android, iphone and symbian's. Whle others include WinMo.
Would this be a possible software that can be created? If i could get this on my TP2 it would be incredible.
Any of guys have any info other than this?
www.spotify.com

AFAIK, they were advertising for a WM developer to work for them, but since about a month ago it disappeared and I've heard nothing since.
I would love this app, but I suspect that the best you can expect is either a "wi-fi only" version (like iplayer is, ie. not available over 3G/HSDPA) or a version that it is only available to premium members (such as what is rumoured to be being given the once over by Apple, £9.99 a month, so to not compete too much with iTunes on their devices)

Yeah
That wont matter though, im allready a premium member. The whole idea is genius and 9.99 is nothing anyways.
But id still like them on my phone. could just bring my TP2 when im atfriends and plug it into the amplifier.

nobody up for the challange?

1337_V1k1n6 said:
nobody up for the challange?
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not sure if i'm up to it but i'm going to give it a try to see if it will work...
i will try to create a .Net app for windows mobile that uses despotify/jotify as an example.
now i only need some spare time
any .Net developers out here who would like to help me?
http://despotify.se/ http://jotify.felixbruns.de/

matmaneyre said:
I would love this app, but I suspect that the best you can expect is either a "wi-fi only" version (like iplayer is, ie. not available over 3G/HSDPA)
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hope you are wrong on that one, especially as some of us in the uk get 7.2mbps hsdpa & soon to be 14.4mbps. Hell 7.2mbps is faster than most bt broadband customers get.

pieteckhart said:
not sure if i'm up to it but i'm going to give it a try to see if it will work...
i will try to create a .Net app for windows mobile that uses despotify/jotify as an example.
now i only need some spare time
any .Net developers out here who would like to help me?
http://despotify.se/ http://jotify.felixbruns.de/
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I'd be happy to help if you're still working on this.

I have been working on a Windows Mobile Spotify client called mySpot.
The first alpha version is complete and I have uploaded it to the forum today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580208
-Fry

software solutions... what are users using to get by

Im not new to WinMo and I'v had the HD2 for about 3 days now but coming from Android like most of u, and was wondering what solutions you have found for software. To me the Windows Market SUXs big time right now. nothing good worth downloading (free anyways) and i have noticed theres not manny, to no choices when it comes to photo editing or manipulating software
where can i get some software to make the phone more usable. seems very limited right out of the box for me and i wanna "Android it up" a bit if its at all possible... and i dont mean install android apps
i miss the:
photo editing apps in general, not just android ones
googlesky - i know, i know, its a google app but something similar should be out there.. no?
googlemaps - (see googlesky note) (winmo doesnt have turn by turn on the included googlemaps...). however, i dont blame google for the limitations, it is their software.
extra messaging apps
a working barcode scanner - very useful app
any type of flash?
so whats everyone doing/using??
thank
rlee

Take a look here for what you need, this is the real marketplace for WM 6.5.x!
For Flash Skyfire browser helps, and Smaberg has a version of Opera 10 with flash enabled.
I know there are several barcode readers, don't use it, but they're available, as are alternate messaging apps/UIs.
Don't know about photo editing apps, but I'm sure they must be out there too...

Windows mobile is a far easier platform to get software from. You just search the internet, as you would for PC software. You can always look on xda too, and remember that if you do a search in the HD2 forum, you're only searching a very small portion of the site. You're better searching the whole forum. Wacky.banana kindly posted a thread about searching. It's stickied in this forum.

Hi, You could try http://freewarepocketpc.net. It also has it's own app that you can install on your HD2 to download applications directly to it. Yes the WinMo apps are fragmented all over the place with no single point of download. A lot are crap, but the same can be said for Android and iPhone. You hear stories that developers are giving up on WinMo 6. For bar codes i use i-nigma and Mobiletag but they are far from perfect.
Not sure about your impression that most of the HD2 users come from an Android background, interesting point of view A lot are interested in porting Android to it though

NZtechfreak thanks for the replies, trying out the skyfire browser right now.
johncmolyneux, im far from a windows noob, but for this phone i have searched the web, both through yahoo and google, have searched through forums and all the software i find either isnt compatible or i dont find what im looking for exactly. As i posted above, picture editing software should be common but there is not one single app available that runs properly.
rlee

cMMY69 said:
Hi, You could try freewarepocketpc.net It also has it's own app that you can install on your HD2 to download applications directly to it. Yes the WinMo apps are fragmented all over the place with no single point of download. A lot are crap, but the same can be said for Android and iPhone. You hear stories that developers are giving up on WinMo 6. For bar codes i use i-nigma and Mobiletag but they are far from perfect.
Not sure about your impression that most of the HD2 users come from an Android background, interesting point of view A lot are interested in porting Android to it though
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Thanks for that link - installed the appstore from that site. Cool
As someone moving from Android, I've been a little disappointed thus far too.

cMMY69 said:
Not sure about your impression that most of the HD2 users come from an Android background, interesting point of view A lot are interested in porting Android to it though
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i didnt mean all but alot of us jumped onto the bandwagon in hopes that android will be available to us in the near future
and i wouldnt say im disapointed with the HD2, in fact i think its awesome! its just different from what i've been using for a year and a half. but this phone has features that would make it hard to go back to android hardware so lets load up the sofware and see what happens!
rlee

rlee008 said:
...but this phone has features that would make it hard to go back to android hardware
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So you've not seen the HTC Evo then?

johncmolyneux said:
So you've not seen the HTC Evo then?
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yeah i have seen the evo but that's coming to Sprint not to t-mobile so my options are a bit limited cause I'm still under contract with them. i got hopes that the evo will help with the development of Android on the HD2.

rlee008 said:
NZtechfreak thanks for the replies, trying out the skyfire browser right now.
johncmolyneux, im far from a windows noob, but for this phone i have searched the web, both through yahoo and google, have searched through forums and all the software i find either isnt compatible or i dont find what im looking for exactly. As i posted above, picture editing software should be common but there is not one single app available that runs properly.
rlee
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Resco Photo Manager - not free but not expensive either and has reasonably good photo editing capabilities. Certainly enought for mobile devices, given the assumption that hardcore editing would be done on a PC

Sony Location Free Player

I started a thread a few months ago concerning a proprietary video player that Sony used for their Location Free Player devices. Well...
The software code has now been moved to open source status and is free for full linux development. I'm hoping I can convince one of you savvy developers to whip up the player so it can run on either Android or a full linux OS (I use Ubuntu). I'm sure it's a gold mine for tons of other video streaming applications that could potentially run on our devices.
The link to the open source code can be found here along with other Sony open projects.
http://products.sel.sony.com/opensource/
Location Free TV is the program I'm specifically talking about. I believe the current version is LFA-PC30. If you would like to read more on this device/player you can check the wiki at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LocationFree_Player
Let me know if anyone has any questions, I very eager to see if this is possible. If I could stream video from my Location Free Player Base I to either my android device or Ubuntu Netbook I would be very very pleased. If a dev is serious I would be more than happy to have them test on my base station. PM or email me if you're interested!
Also, please move to the correct thread if this is in the incorrect area.

agreed!
I too would love to see more on this, my locationfree box could get so much more use.

So a sony base unit (hardware) is needed to try this right

If someone is working on this, and needs a connection to a base station to test ( I have the last version that came out LF-V30 ) message me and I'll send you the adress to connect to my station and the password

Would
Love to see this on Android. This would give new life to my Location Free Box. If not then I may have to move to Sling Player although I would like to stay with Sony.

eighty82 said:
Love to see this on Android. This would give new life to my Location Free Box. If not then I may have to move to Sling Player although I would like to stay with Sony.
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$200 for a base sling box and Android software.
Please devs, work your magic!!

$25 bounty to the one who makes a working Location Free Android app.

Anyone still working on this?

bumpitty bump bump bumpitty bump

Bump! Sony LocationFree for Android!!!!! this is never gonna happen.

Anyone out there....?

Darn just when I thought google led me home lol.

So anybody working on this I to would love to see this.
I would love to see this on Android, IOS, WebOS, Windows Phone and A better Verion for Windows Mobile PLS PLS PLS

Hello, Bumping the thread once more, there are plenty of Location free devices out there for people to purchase an paid app from the android store.
Please compile an app from the source code link that OP provided. I am looking forward to it.

nastywindbreaker said:
Hello, Bumping the thread once more, there are plenty of Location free devices out there for people to purchase an paid app from the android store.
Please compile an app from the source code link that OP provided. I am looking forward to it.
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Still no takers? :-(

I'd pay for a working app as well..
It will probably never happen but figured I would put my 2cents in as well..

echardcore said:
Bump! Sony LocationFree for Android!!!!! this is never gonna happen.
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Yes it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477821

mgschwan said:
Yes it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477821
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Thank you for your efforts. Very happy with this development.

Holy crap! I don't believe it! Can't wait to get home to register my base with my phone. If it works, will donate for sure! Thanks mgschwan!!!
EDIT: Installed and working great on my HD2!! Donated!! WOOHOO!

[Q] What to use now that skyfire is gone?

Hello, now that we cant use Skyfire for Flash purposes, what are our options?

? Gone like how?

ashasaur said:
? Gone like how?
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Last week when you try to connect you get an error saying "due to high demand the service is unavailable" or something like that. The problem is they released it for iPhone last week and had to pull it from the market because they took all the bandwidth of their servers.

Yeah I am seeing that now. I wonder if it's actually down for good, or just because of the iTard crap. I'm sure that the people at Skyfire would have said something if they where killing off the platform that started their company.

The Skyfire app for the Iphone costs about $3, whereas the one for Windows Mobile is free. My guess is the Iphone users get the priority on the servers. There is no incentive for them to turn it back on for WM users, unless they start charging for the app.

slingster said:
The Skyfire app for the Iphone costs about $3, whereas the one for Windows Mobile is free. My guess is the Iphone users get the priority on the servers. There is no incentive for them to turn it back on for WM users, unless they start charging for the app.
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I haddent even thought of that! I was hoping the servers were just overloaded. I looked on their blogs and they mention it hoping to get up sometime soon. I hope they don't shut out WM. I would pay a couple of bucks if it ment I could get it to work.

rsacipher said:
I haddent even thought of that! I was hoping the servers were just overloaded. I looked on their blogs and they mention it hoping to get up sometime soon. I hope they don't shut out WM. I would pay a couple of bucks if it ment I could get it to work.
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But it's just too much work to keep supporting it on WM, even if they charge for it, the reason is that there just isn't a huge market on WM, most people have moved onto Android and iPhone.

is there anything else to use as a replacement? something else with flash?

Crazypostalgirl said:
is there anything else to use as a replacement? something else with flash?
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Uzard, I think.
Perhaps Bolt, but that has to work inside a Java JVM.

I was hoping that there was something else that would allow me to play the various games on facebook (silly I know)
I just tried uZard and it wont load the games.
thanks for the input guys!

I still do not think that Skyfire is permanently down, I think it's because of all the iTards rapeing their servers downloading it to fix what Apple won't. Skyfire launched on WinMo, and thats where ALL of their revenue came from in the beginning, so I really doubt that they would just up and quit without an explanation. I am one of the original Skyfire users, and back in the day you had to sign up for the service(albeit free) via SMS, and they still send me a text every now and then with a state of the network kinda thing...

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...Skyfire launched on WinMo, and thats where ALL of their revenue came from in the beginning...
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How did they make money if they did not charge for the Skyfire app on the WM platform?

Back in the day, Skyfire for WM was ad supported.

Doesn't Opera Beta 10 or Opera 10 work with flash? Been using it since I saw it come out and abandoned Skyfire cuz it worked so well.

jammer5150 said:
Doesn't Opera Beta 10 or Opera 10 work with flash? Been using it since I saw it come out and abandoned Skyfire cuz it worked so well.
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I thought IE on the phone had flash support? I don't do a lot of web browsing on my phone though, so I haven't really tested it. I know Youtube videos work.

go here and let them have it! http://getsatisfaction.com/skyfire/topics/skyfire_is_down_for_wm_users

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I still do not think that Skyfire is permanently down, I think it's because of all the iTards rapeing their servers downloading it to fix what Apple won't. Skyfire launched on WinMo, and thats where ALL of their revenue came from in the beginning, so I really doubt that they would just up and quit without an explanation. I am one of the original Skyfire users, and back in the day you had to sign up for the service(albeit free) via SMS, and they still send me a text every now and then with a state of the network kinda thing...
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yes! i remember!
it was so annoying having to sign in everytime!!

uzard takes a little getting used to, but i like it better than skyfire. and it screen rotates . taking no credit for this, just passing along the cab .

UZARD , is a great browser, but i can only get it to work when installed on my card

Xbox Music App for Windows 7 ?

Hi,
does anyone tried to port the Xbox Music App to Windows 7 ?
Is it possible, or to run with virual machine and dll library of Win 8 ?
i really need this
Maybe someone can put this extracted app to this thread, i can try to run the exe

saywa said:
Hi,
does anyone tried to port the Xbox Music App to Windows 7 ?
Is it possible, or to run with virual machine and dll library of Win 8 ?
i really need this
Maybe someone can put this extracted app to this thread, i can try to run the exe
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The Xbox Music app for Windows 8 is built using the WinRT runtime, which is not available on Windows 7. To my knowledge this is not possible, also with an app like Xbox Music, I think hacking around that would be a bad idea for various reasons. Furthermore, the entire app 'experience' (full screen, metro driven environment) is not even remotely supported in Windows 7, so assuming you could 'trick' the WinRT backend onto Windows 7, the OS and App are not going to get along well at all, let alone if all of this was done somehow, I peg the chances of buying/streaming/etc actually working as close to 0.
I have Windows 8 Pro, custom build, nothing special though and even with this I can't stream or purchase song's on my Windows 8 Xbox Music app, despite hours of troubleshooting, there is quite a bit going on in the background for apps like Xbox Music.
Apologies, if that was more information than you wanted, anyhow that's my take on this. Hope it helps.

Why would you *want* to, though? Xbox Music is a crap app compared to what it "replaces", the Zune app. Zune runs great on Win7 (and also runs on Win8, in desktop mode) and is still available for download from http://zune.net. Xbox Music Pass and Zune Pass are the same thing; I can still stream and download my music using either app... but where Xbox Music is likely to tell me that for some reason it can't play the track, or to stutter or lag when picking or switching songs, Zune is capable of such crazy and advanced features as playing a Smart DJ list based on a specific song, rather than just based on an artist, and you can mark songs as "disliked" to avoid them playing again.
MS seriously screwed the pooch with their Xbox Music app on the PC... and for Windows RT, you can't even go back to Zune! Possibly my biggest disappointment in the new OS.

i just need it, you can't understand, many of us need it, if you dont like it, others will do.
It could be emulated.

I'm just confused what feature of the new app you're looking for. For *everything* that I've found except usability with a touchscreen, Zune is better. If you have a touchscreen, you should definitely be running Win8 anyhow. Let me know what you're looking for and I'll help you if I can, but I'm not going to put effort into supporting an inferior app on an older platform for the sake of "i just need it, you can't understand"!

saywa said:
i just need it
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If it is that much of a requirement just get windows 8.
saywa said:
you can't understand
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How incredibly closed minded that is. How do you know I can't understand? just a tip, insulting peoples intelligence is no way to get help.

ok i didnt wanted to say there but there is a song of a good friend, JUST BECAUSE of THAT ! Only There
simple as hell, i cant and i dont want to get windows 8 (other reasons and dont ask for them too)
i know its a simple job porting that app for a good developer as you all are in here (many)
i know Zune is better but i dont know why microsoft is cutting the limit of windows 7
i can also pay if you can emulate or port or extract that app so that its working on windows 7, you dont have to reply if you dont know how to do it or annoy me asking why i want it (as now you know it but still trynna continue )
sorry but true story

saywa said:
ok i didnt wanted to say there but there is a song of a good friend, JUST BECAUSE of THAT ! Only There
simple as hell, i cant and i dont want to get windows 8 (other reasons and dont ask for them too)
i know its a simple job porting that app for a good developer as you all are in here (many)
i know Zune is better but i dont know why microsoft is cutting the limit of windows 7
i can also pay if you can emulate or port or extract that app so that its working on windows 7, you dont have to reply if you dont know how to do it or annoy me asking why i want it (as now you know it but still trynna continue )
sorry but true story
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It's a javascript/HTML app. Porting is possible, but difficult, and I don't believe anyone actually cares enough to do it. If it's that important to you, do it yourself, or convince someone you know to do it. Also note that it will be illegal.

phailyoor said:
It's a javascript/HTML app. Porting is possible, but difficult, and I don't believe anyone actually cares enough to do it. If it's that important to you, do it yourself, or convince someone you know to do it. Also note that it will be illegal.
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finally a better answer
hacking anything without premission is illegal, so thats not a problem, but no one cares, as the internet exists
and as i said, i would pay, so if someone can do that simple job of a pro developer, you can contact me.
i bet someday some one will do this, i just want to boost this ! ;D
PS : i know more than the basics of Javascript and HTML, but it isnt enough, maybe i give a try, but anyway, i dont have windows 8, so could anyone extract it and upload it so devs can start deving ! ? !

saywa said:
hacking anything without premission is illegal
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And we don't have permission from microsoft to do this

saywa said:
PS : i know more than the basics of Javascript and HTML, but it isnt enough, maybe i give a try, but anyway, i dont have windows 8, so could anyone extract it and upload it so devs can start deving ! ? !
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It's better to send your enthusiasm to another direction. Looks like you can't even imagine how is it difficult.
Though mb after hundreds of years you'll achieve something.

Meh. A lot of the stuff that goes on XDA-Devs is illegal somewhere, often right here in the USA. So long as it doesn't really piss off the big companies or the government (and I mean *really* piss off, not "meh, they aren't worth the effort" grade of annoyance) though, it's usually fine. Keep it justifiably clean. For example, porting a free app from one OS to another - even without the developer's permission - seems perfectly reasonable, especially if you leave any in-app advertising intact.
I still don't understand why this is desired, though. The OP doesn't quite seem to understand that people are trying to help solve his or her problem. There's no need to get defensive. When I ask "why", it's not "you're an idiot for wanting this"; it's "this is hard and there's probably a better way to do whatever you're trying to do". So... there's a song. It's on the Xbox Music marketplace but not the Zune marketplace? That's weird, since so far as I've seen thus far they are completely identical right down to the top downloaded songs lists at any given time (meaning MS doesn't distinguish between them on the server side). Please actually explain what the problem is, if you want people to help you.
Frankly, I expect most of us see the Xbox Music app as crap and/or Win7 as legacy and boring. There are plenty of challenges in the new OS that are much more interesting; flattering our skills and offering the appeal of a challenge only works when people are looking for something to do. Personally, I would *much* rather spend my time trying to get Pidgin running on Windows RT (to replace the broken built-in messenger) than try to get the awful Xbox Music app running on an OS that I'm using less and less... and it's a more interesting challenge, too.
Oh, one more thing that people seem to forget a lot (especially the newcomers): XDA-Devs is a *developer* forum. It is not a "make my phone|tablet|PC|whatever really cool!" forum. Nor is it a feature request forum, a tech support forum, a ranting-and-raving forum, or a piracy forum. In fact, requesting most of those is against the forum rules to one degree or another. If you're posting a new thread in dev&hacking, you should be offering something you developed, a hack you found, or something else of that nature.

I'd like to point out that not all hacking is illegal.
If you do t know how to do it and know one seems enthused about, it seems you're SOL

What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.

Ok, keep me in the loop

Useless post of a useless guy

saywa said:
What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
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It's not run of the mill JS and HTML, that part would be easy. The hard part is that that JS and HTML requires custom libraries that aren't present in Windows 7, and backporting them would be damn near impossible.

saywa said:
What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
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you keep saying that we won't understand, just tell us rather than being all cryptic. Name the one reason that you need the xbox music app cause as GoodDayToDie said, the content is identical (I just checked myself) the only difference being that zune is much more useful.
EDIT: Would I be wrong in saying it is because you want the 30 day trial from xbox music rather than the 14 day trial you get in zune?

I already SAID the reason DUDE, just read the text, BUT you still dont do and continue annoyin ****
you all talkin ****, im searching professional devs, which could get paid if they want to, you all are noobs (except GoodDay2Die, who never said its hard, just asked for reason, that i answered and maybe its not his area)
i dont think that back porting libraries are that hard though, and still don't believe that Xbox Music is just HTML, JS, as Zune is in native code and Xbox Music is upgraded stuff of that. JS is impossible in here, unlogic pure. Net, silverlight, any thing is in there, and again i dont have this, i just saw some images, and no one confirmed or extracted that.
Still talking **** ?!

saywa said:
I already SAID the reason DUDE, just read the text, BUT you still dont do and continue annoyin ****
you all talkin ****, im searching professional devs, which could get paid if they want to, you all are noobs (except GoodDay2Die, who never said its hard, just asked for reason, that i answered and maybe its not his area)
i dont think that back porting libraries are that hard though, and still don't believe that Xbox Music is just HTML, JS, as Zune is in native code and Xbox Music is upgraded stuff of that. JS is impossible in here, unlogic pure. Net, silverlight, any thing is in there, and again i dont have this, i just saw some images, and no one confirmed or extracted that.
Still talking **** ?!
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It's not happening, you obviously don't have the skill, and any serious dev is just going to laugh at you. It would be an insane amount of work to do this, and I doubt that you have the budget to do it. Use the Zune app, upgrade to Windows 8, or go without. You obviously don't understand WinRT, and now you're just being an ass. The devs here do things on a voluntary basis and no one is going to help you when you're rude, and seemingly don't understand the vastness of what you're asking at all.