Google sync on HTC hero with mail app? - Hero, G2 Touch General

After the new announcement for push email on the iphone using microsoft exchange, I have become interested in attempting this on my hero.
I know I can add gmail accounts to both the gmail app and the mail app on the hero, but there is a reason I want to try the exchange method. The gmail app gets push email, but the mail app doesn't. However, I much prefer the mail app on the hero, along with the mail widget. If using this method will work, it can mean I can use the mail app, along with push gmail.
Has anyone tried to add their gmail account to their hero using this method? I've tried, but it says it is unable to add the account. The account is verified successfuly, it just cannot be added. I'm not sure whether or not this is a temporary issue.
Any input will be appreciated. Thanks.

I was unable to add an exchange account (gmail) this afternoon, but I am now able to do so. Probably too many people rush to try that earlier today.
I added my second gmail account as an exchange account, and then set sync frequency as "as items arrive" i.e. push. Emails indeed arrive very quickly.
The problem is, I cannot send email! I tried composing a new mail, or replying to a received email. After I press "Send", the mail app acted like the email was sent but the other side never it. What's more, I couldn't find the email I sent in the "Sent" or "Out" or "Draft" folders. Manually refreshing the account doesn't seem to work either. I don't know if this is the problem of the mail app, or the problem with gmail's server.
Another problem is, com.htc.provider got force closed very frequently... although it has no problem restarting itself.

Okay, now I realize the com.htc.provider problem is caused by Peep rather than Google Sync http://bit.ly/5uWoi
The problem about sending email still exist though, and some of my received emails are getting "error" as their subjects, although the bodies of the emails display fine.

tsekh501 said:
I added my second gmail account as an exchange account, and then set sync frequency as "as items arrive" i.e. push. Emails indeed arrive very quickly.
The problem is, I cannot send email! I tried composing a new mail, or replying to a received email. After I press "Send", the mail app acted like the email was sent but the other side never it. What's more, I couldn't find the email I sent in the "Sent" or "Out" or "Draft" folders. Manually refreshing the account doesn't seem to work either. I don't know if this is the problem of the mail app, or the problem with gmail's server.
... and some of my received emails are getting "error" as their subjects, although the bodies of the emails display fine.
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Its the same for me:
* sent emails never received by the other side, ... :-(
* some emails have "error" as their sender instead of the correct email adress :-(
Any ideas for solution are welcome.
Best from Germany

accuphase said:
Its the same for me:
* sent emails never received by the other side, ... :-(
* some emails have "error" as their subjects :-(
Any ideas for solution are welcome.
Best from Germany
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I have the same problem. Maybe there's something wrong with Google's IMAP service? I have restored to an old backup just in case it was a settings issue but it still doesn't work.
Hope there is a solution soon.

Tried using the HTC Mail app and IMAP for Gmail seems to be working just fine. But the Google Mail app is still not working.
Any idea how to set the IMAP setting for the Google Mail app manually?

Don't mix up IMAP with Exchange (Google Sync).
IMAP for Gmail (or Google Apps) has been working perfectly for me, but IMAP does not support push.
Exchange Server for Gmail (or Google Apps) supports push and push email works fine. But it has problem sending out emails and some emails received has "error" as their subjects.
Why is Exchange Server for Gmail useful? Well, it is useful if you have more than one Gmail/Google Apps account (my first one is my personal Gmail account, and the second one is my university's Google Apps email account) The built in Gmail app support push, but it only support one account. Before Google enabled Exchange Server for Gmail yesterday, the only way to set up the other Gmail account is to set it up as a IMAP account. Now I can set it up as an Exchange Server account to get push email, however it is having problem mentioned above... I am not sure if this is a problem with Gmail's server or a problem with the HTC mail app.
To set up IMAP for Google App, just set it up as normal Gmail (i.e. imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com, yes SSL), and enter the whole Google App email address as your username.
To set up Exchange for Gmail or Google App, use m.google.com as sever name and leave domain blank. Enter your Google account username and password, and if you are using Google App, enter the whole email address as username as above.

Hi tsekh501,
have you any news on this topic?
Would love to hear good / working news ... ;-)

Receiving "error" in the subject line here too. I am very interested to learn if any further progress been made..

tsekh501 said:
Don't mix up IMAP with Exchange (Google Sync).
IMAP for Gmail (or Google Apps) has been working perfectly for me, but IMAP does not support push.
Exchange Server for Gmail (or Google Apps) supports push and push email works fine. But it has problem sending out emails and some emails received has "error" as their subjects.
Why is Exchange Server for Gmail useful? Well, it is useful if you have more than one Gmail/Google Apps account (my first one is my personal Gmail account, and the second one is my university's Google Apps email account) The built in Gmail app support push, but it only support one account. Before Google enabled Exchange Server for Gmail yesterday, the only way to set up the other Gmail account is to set it up as a IMAP account. Now I can set it up as an Exchange Server account to get push email, however it is having problem mentioned above... I am not sure if this is a problem with Gmail's server or a problem with the HTC mail app.
To set up IMAP for Google App, just set it up as normal Gmail (i.e. imap.gmail.com and smtp.gmail.com, yes SSL), and enter the whole Google App email address as your username.
To set up Exchange for Gmail or Google App, use m.google.com as sever name and leave domain blank. Enter your Google account username and password, and if you are using Google App, enter the whole email address as username as above.
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I love that Google added Gmail exchange support. IMAP Idle is close, but Exchange is true push which is necessary for some of us. I think IMAP Idle gives much better battery life though IMO

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GMail V. Email App Question

So, the 'GMail' app is fast and efficient. However, I dislike the look and layout of it. Also, I cannot sync my secondary account with the default GMail app.
I like the Samsung 'Email' application, however, I find that it is too slow in pulling email from Google's servers. When I am sent an email, the default GMail app pings me before my desktop computer. Mail is instantly pushed to the phone, in a delightful way. Then, five minutes later, 'Email' notifies me of the same message.
Is there any way to make the Samsung Email application behave in this way (instant email notifications)? If so, awesome. I have the phone set to check for new emails every thirty minutes. If I lower this time, it still isn't as quick as the 'GMail' app.
If it is possible to somehow push emails to the 'EMail' app in a speedy fashion, then my second question would be: "Is there an easy way - besides deleting the GMail account from the 'GMail' app - to have only one Email program active at a time? Or, perhaps, is there a way to set priority between the two programs? :/
I don't think there is man. Google has developed a hybrid type active sync for pushing email to the Gmail app. This is one of the benefits of using a Android phone if you use Gmail. When it comes to other email apps/clients, Gmail will push using IMAP. My buddy who has a iPhone uses Google Sync and is jealous of how fast I receive my email. He actually got mad at Google for not using the same technology in Google Sync. That's just one of the benefits of using Android with the Gmail app. It gets you the fastest email outside of using Exchange or Active Sync.
Can't you just continue to use the Gmail app for your primary account and the Samsung email app for your secondary account? I have both of my Gmail accounts paired with the Gmail app and my Verizon and Work email synced with the Samsung app. I don't really need instant email on my secondary accounts. If you need yours to be instant then why don't you just forward all of your mail from your secondary account to your Gmail account.
Jon C said:
So, the 'GMail' app is fast and efficient. However, I dislike the look and layout of it. Also, I cannot sync my secondary account with the default GMail app.
I like the Samsung 'Email' application, however, I find that it is too slow in pulling email from Google's servers. When I am sent an email, the default GMail app pings me before my desktop computer. Mail is instantly pushed to the phone, in a delightful way. Then, five minutes later, 'Email' notifies me of the same message.
Is there any way to make the Samsung Email application behave in this way (instant email notifications)? If so, awesome. I have the phone set to check for new emails every thirty minutes. If I lower this time, it still isn't as quick as the 'GMail' app.
If it is possible to somehow push emails to the 'EMail' app in a speedy fashion, then my second question would be: "Is there an easy way - besides deleting the GMail account from the 'GMail' app - to have only one Email program active at a time? Or, perhaps, is there a way to set priority between the two programs? :/
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No its not possible, exchange and Gmail (through Gmail client) are Push, other are not.
Well, my secondary account technically is a GMail account. My school has edu accounts through GMail, so the address ends in 'go.schoolname.edu'. Because of this, GMail has issues syncing that account (even though it is a Google Mail account).
Lame. :/
Oh well. Thanks, guys.
Download K9-Mail from the market. I have 2 outlook work emails & gmail all in K-9.
Best of all it's free.
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You can have two accounts linked on the Gmail app. Press menu and then add accounts.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
K-9 mail was able to do "instant" push via IMAP for me, but it really slowed my phone down. Try K-9 and if you find it slows your phone down too, try out MailDroid.
MailDroid doesn't slow my phone down at all and seems to do IMAP push well, but its a but light on features and polish.
You can import up to five other email accounts into your main gmail account. That way you only have to use the gmail servers for all your mail. I have all my pop mail linked to my gmail account and I get all my mail instantly. You can then label each account with a different color and filter them.
Sent from my Vibrant using XDA app facing north...no, wait. southwest.
I've setup all my gmail accounts in my phone(3 gmail). And if you have other email accounts such as aol, hotmail etc you can add those account on one of your gmail (login to the web) and have gmail fetch all those emails that way you have push email on those account

IMAP Exchange Email Stopped Working - Native Email App

Hi All,
I am receiving my Yahoo email and work IMAP email in the native Android email app. Yesterday afternoon, my IMAP email just stopped working. Yahoo is fine. I can send email, but not get email from the IMAP account.
I deleted the account, rebooted the phone and added the account back. All the settings are fine and check out, but it will not retrieve email.
I downloaded K9, and using the exact same settings, I can retrieve/send IMAP email without issues.
Any known bugs or ideas? The email is an exchange server, but we don't have active sync, so IMAP is used outside of work pc's.
Thanks!
Mike
msglsmo said:
Hi All,
I am receiving my Yahoo email and work IMAP email in the native Android email app. Yesterday afternoon, my IMAP email just stopped working. Yahoo is fine. I can send email, but not get email from the IMAP account.
I deleted the account, rebooted the phone and added the account back. All the settings are fine and check out, but it will not retrieve email.
I downloaded K9, and using the exact same settings, I can retrieve/send IMAP email without issues.
Any known bugs or ideas? The email is an exchange server, but we don't have active sync, so IMAP is used outside of work pc's.
Thanks!
Mike
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I have a co-worker with a Sprint phone with Android on it (not sure which phone). She, too, is having troubles with IMAP with our work email as it will just stop sending/receiving emails periodically as well. This solves one problem in that I do not believe that this is just your phone. However, it creates two more problems in the sense that it is either Android problem or a problem with the email server.
I think it's an android thing. I have a few exchange accounts set up (first of all.. it does more than one... which is awesome), and the first time i sent an email my phone kept bouncing back with "can't send message" errors.. meanwhile.. the guys i sent the email to got repeat messages. one for every bounce back message I got. So it seems the built in email application isn't so great with emails. works fantastic with gmail though. I'm using a Touchdown trial. It's a $20 app. it's ok. i prefer the stock one.. .but it works fine so far.

[Q] Stock email app, imap, and push

I really like the new email interface that comes with the Xoom as well as the new and similar Gmail app interface. However, I also have a non-Gmail account that supports imap push which does not appear to be supported in the new stock email app. To get push email from that account, I am using K-9 which works well with push, however, I much prefer the new stock email interface. My question is, am I missing a setting on the stock email app for push (it is set up as an imap account), or, if not, what is the limitation or reasoning to not have included push in this app?
As a side comment, I did try forwarding all of my non-Gmail email to my Gmail account so I would receive it on the Xoom via push. This worked fine for about a week at which time, I as well as everyone that had sent or been copied on these emails started being flooded with notices that delivery of the email had been delayed (although it had actually been received) but attempts would be made to resend this email for the next few days. With each attempt to resend another notice would be received. My and everyone else's mailboxes were being over-filled with these notices so I stopped forwarding to Gmail and in about three days, at the end of the attempt to resend time period, these notices stopped. The account I was forwarding from was an Apple account (.me). I don't really believe in conspiracy theories but this one has me wondering!
wayne710 said:
I really like the new email interface that comes with the Xoom as well as the new and similar Gmail app interface. However, I also have a non-Gmail account that supports imap push which does not appear to be supported in the new stock email app. To get push email from that account, I am using K-9 which works well with push, however, I much prefer the new stock email interface. My question is, am I missing a setting on the stock email app for push (it is set up as an imap account), or, if not, what is the limitation or reasoning to not have included push in this app?
As a side comment, I did try forwarding all of my non-Gmail email to my Gmail account so I would receive it on the Xoom via push. This worked fine for about a week at which time, I as well as everyone that had sent or been copied on these emails started being flooded with notices that delivery of the email had been delayed (although it had actually been received) but attempts would be made to resend this email for the next few days. With each attempt to resend another notice would be received. My and everyone else's mailboxes were being over-filled with these notices so I stopped forwarding to Gmail and in about three days, at the end of the attempt to resend time period, these notices stopped. The account I was forwarding from was an Apple account (.me). I don't really believe in conspiracy theories but this one has me wondering!
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I have an IMAP account. When you are setting it up at the end it asks for refresh interval. I put that to never and it seems to push my email just fine.
under apps at the top right there are two email clients, gmail and email. Anything other than gmail gets loaded into email and is viewed in there. There are also two seperate widgets both of which I have on page 1.
Inphinitizeit said:
I have an IMAP account. When you are setting it up at the end it asks for refresh interval. I put that to never and it seems to push my email just fine.
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That is interesting as when I tell the regular email client, set up as an imap account, to "Never" check, it does just that....it never checks. I have to go into the app and manually refresh it to get any email. On the Gmail client, a time selection is not available as it is set to sync automatically with your gmail account.
wayne710 said:
That is interesting as when I tell the regular email client, set up as an imap account, to "Never" check, it does just that....it never checks. I have to go into the app and manually refresh it to get any email. On the Gmail client, a time selection is not available as it is set to sync automatically with your gmail account.
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Hey, that's not me. LIES
Spawn026 said:
Hey, that's not me. LIES
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Sorry about that Spawn! I figured out what I did and won't let it happen again!
I, too, do not find that the "never" setting works. I notice on the Exchange seetings there are extra fields to syn with server. IMAP seems to have left those choices out.

Yahoo not syncing....anyone else???

It's not syncing on my Evo or iPad...Anyone having this issue?
Yes I was having the same problem recently. It "seems" like its syncing on the phone, but when I checked yahoo mail from their website on my PC it clearly was not.
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I used IMAP with yahoo mail... and this is what I found to be my problem:
It turned out that mine was in the settings, I had recently updated my password and only updated it on the "incoming server settings" on my phone, but on the outgoing server settings I did not update the password. So I would receive new mail but it would not sync properly when I delete the messages and marked them as read.
I am also having problems with my yahoo email not syncing. The problem is it will sync emails fine through 5/7/11, but not after that date. I tried deleting the email account in the mail app, and set it up again. It downloaded all emails through 5/7/11, but none of my newer ones. I have a yahoo plus (pop) mail account, but have always used the standard IMAP settings that auto-populate when setting up the account. Did Yahoo make any service changes recently? I am using the app on an Evo.

Email to Always "Load more Details"

How do you force the email client to always Load More Details or always show the complete email with full html. It initially shows up in txt, and I always have to click load more details. I want it to load details by default.
Thanks!
First of all, you can set how much email size you want to retrive in email settings. Assume you aleady set it to 'All', I'd guess you're encountering this issue receiving from Hotmail accounts. If so, this is a work around for Exchange sync deficiency on Hotmail server. Hotmail ActiveSync protocol does not officially suppor HTML email at all (I know it is lame for a MS server) at the declared protocol level. To work around this issue, email clients have to ignore the declared ActiveSync protocol version and go ahead assume it supports HTML anyway. This is how iOS and Windows Phone 7 works today. Samsung/Google seems to take a more conservative approach that it let you to force it to display HTML by click on the 'Load more details' button. If it is an true Exchange 2007 or later server, you don't need to click (and won't see) that button.
MS posted some length excuses about why it can't make Hotmail server compatible with ActiveSync 2.5 (which supports HTML email) protocol while Google has no problem make GMail support such protocol.
foxbat121 said:
First of all, you can set how much email size you want to retrive in email settings. Assume you aleady set it to 'All', I'd guess you're encountering this issue receiving from Hotmail accounts. If so, this is a work around for Exchange sync deficiency on Hotmail server. Hotmail ActiveSync protocol does not officially suppor HTML email at all (I know it is lame for a MS server) at the declared protocol level. To work around this issue, email clients have to ignore the declared ActiveSync protocol version and go ahead assume it supports HTML anyway. This is how iOS and Windows Phone 7 works today. Samsung/Google seems to take a more conservative approach that it let you to force it to display HTML by click on the 'Load more details' button. If it is an true Exchange 2007 or later server, you don't need to click (and won't see) that button.
MS posted some length excuses about why it can't make Hotmail server compatible with ActiveSync 2.5 (which supports HTML email) protocol while Google has no problem make GMail support such protocol.
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Thanks! This has been a BIG help. I didn't realize but your right. My paid for exchange account shows HTML email fine. But my hotmail account does not unless I push load more details. What if I switch the Hotmail account to a pop account. Would that help load emails as HTML?
Thanks!
Yes, it will but pop account has too many problems (sync issues, no push email featurs, no calendars, no contacts etc.). You just have to live with it for now.
foxbat121 said:
Yes, it will but pop account has too many problems (sync issues, no push email featurs, no calendars, no contacts etc.). You just have to live with it for now.
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Great! I have HTML email now. Its not push, but atleast I dont have to load more details anymore. Does POP not support folders? I only have my Inbox.
You've been a great help. I really appreciate it, this was very annoying until you resolved my issue.
Nope. Pop3 is one of the oldest protocol ever. So if you have multiple computers access the same account using pop3, it is very difficult to sync with each other. And it requires SMTP server for sending emails. Some networks won't let you pass out any SMTP mails for the sake of preventing email spammers.
Here is one of my work around:
I setup my gmail account to periodically grab emails from my Hotmail accounts from me and put a label on these emails. So all my emails goes into GMail with Hotmails with proper label. You can even setup your GMail (on the web account settings) to reply your email with your Hotmail as your return email address. This way, you get easy email management from GMail as well as proper HTML email support.
foxbat121 said:
Nope. Pop3 is one of the oldest protocol ever. So if you have multiple computers access the same account using pop3, it is very difficult to sync with each other. And it requires SMTP server for sending emails. Some networks won't let you pass out any SMTP mails for the sake of preventing email spammers.
Here is one of my work around:
I setup my gmail account to periodically grab emails from my Hotmail accounts from me and put a label on these emails. So all my emails goes into GMail with Hotmails with proper label. You can even setup your GMail (on the web account settings) to reply your email with your Hotmail as your return email address. This way, you get easy email management from GMail as well as proper HTML email support.
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Thanks! I may try this.
Thanks for the info.
I thought I was going crazy. I used iPhone 4 before and I didn't have any problem using Hotmail exchange (ActiveSync) and work Exchange. Now I have to click "Load more details" all the time on Galaxy Tab, and Infuse. It's bit of pain. I think it's more to do with the email client. If I use TouchDown or Hotmail (new from MS) client, they don't have issues.
I hope Samsung release new updated email clients.
Thanks,
You more than likely right. Its the email client, b/c the HTC Flyer and my HTC EVO3D don't have these issues.
Strange to attribute it to Samsung, Microsoft, etc., because Hotmail works normally (automatically loads all details) on Samsung's Galaxy Nexus phone. Why do they make it work (let it work?) there but not on the Galaxy tab?

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