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How to let thw person phoning me listen to my ringtone

Dear all,
Is it possible to configure my XDA Exec such that the persons ringing me can hear my MP3 ringtone as well ?
Thanks

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ummm, i don't think that is possible, but here, tmobile US has this thing called caller tunes, where you set your account to play a song instead of the pulsing ringing sound when someone is calling you.

In israel we have the same thing,
In israel we have the same thing,
HOWEVER - technically you could do it:
its like a fax machine when it picks up and hears its not a fax call:
it answers, and other side hears a "still no answer" tone and the fax still rings.
you have to write a program that answers the second the call is recieved, starts an mp3 program with a file, and your phone is on mute,
and upon pressing "send" key un-mutes your phone and stops the music.
just dont forget to tell program to hangup after a minute or so
BUT - you have to check when you are on the phone with some 1 and you play an mp3 on WMP or other player - if the other side hears the music while he's muted.
would be a really good idea !

If all you want to do is let them hear it while talking to them, you could get them on the phone and go into phone settings and click play next to the ringtone. They would hear it by proxy so to speak.
Cya
Stot

You could always learn how to duplicate noises using your mouth. You know, like that dude off Police Academy.
HTH

I had something like that on my old Sony J5 mobile phone from a few years ago, an answerphone built into it onto which you could record any answerphone message you wanted.

It is possible. Had a girlfriend once whose phone did that. T-mobile UK and a one-off fee. Cant remember how much though.

I had it also, was totally crap as I had one hell of a lot of missed calls, people would call, it would start ringing, they'd go "What the f....." and hang up!!

It was useful, you could hear them but they could only hear the soundeffect/answerphone phone message, not the microphone, so you could interrupt it if you wanted to talk to them and if not they believed it was just an answerphone.

MP3 caller tune
Dear all, Thank you all for your comments and suggestions, etc.
What I mean is something just mentioned in this post, called caller tune.
Basically, what I want is: the caller can hear MP3 from my phone instead of that boring "pulsed ringing" before I answer the call.

i dont think that will be possible, surlly thats the phone companies ownership

Of course its possible - answer the phone the second it rings, and hold it near your stereo ;o)

Is a repeat audible in-call timer available? or can it be made?

Hi,
Is there any application that will allow me to set a repeat audible alarm that notifies you every X minutes whilst your on the call?
For clarification, the type of beep/tone im looking for is similar to a call waiting beep that you hear when on a call, its un-obtrusive. It's built into my Motorola A1000 (also on SE P900 etc) which uses the Symbian OS and is in the 'Call tracking' menu listed as Audible Timer where you can nominate the time ie 3minutes and then theres a check box to have the audible timer repeat over and over whilst you are on the call.
Its a great feature that i would love to have on a WM6 PPC PE.
Phone Alarm does not do this.

Nice Idea
It Does Seem like a nice Idea.
Could definitely use a application like that.
I'm sure it can be made, if anint already there...

you could also make this request on the pocketmax.net forum. they made the phoneAlarm and Redial (freeware) applications, so I guess it would be very easy for them to include it in one of theire apps.

I was talking to Bruce Jackson from PocketMax back in september about this but he said they couldnt do it because Windows Mobile use 2 separate audio channels, one for the earpiece and the other speaker phone (which is what phone Alarm uses)
I still think is should be possible, seeing that other 'audible in-call tones' like 'call waiting', 'new message tones' as well as 'increase volume beeps' all happen in the ear piece when your on a call.
Who has experience or knows of software that can modify these tones. Thats who would have a better idea how this can be achieved!

I guess having a vibration every minute would thus be very easy to do for Bruce Jackson from PocketMax. I can understand the phone ear loudspeaker is very hard to obtain (I remember recording from this is also impossible for the Wizard since the channels are hardware separated), so a vibration would be better than nothing.

Anyone knows a solution for having audible in-call timer like motorola phones.
Any advance in development community between 2007 and 2009?
Thank you for your answer

I would really want one, its really painful for the entire call just because of that single second.

Environment noise- based sound profile

Any developers here think about a noise-based profiles software for our PPC-Phone? the program use the microphone to identify the background noise to decide which sound profile to use. For example, loud noise will make the phone change to load volume and quiet environment change the phone to silent or soft volume. That software will prevent the phone to ring too loud or too soft at night or on the road etc.

Terrific idea! Sorry I cannot help with development...
Edit: you've got my support with bumps to this thread till the day I die, though

wow!! awesome idea!
(and what'd it take? rec from mic every so many mins and map the decibles ranges to different profiles?)

There's an article (and some sample code) about doing just that at http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/07/10/NoiseDetection/default.aspx
Perhaps it might be a good starting point for somebody?

What about if the phone is in your pocket? Wouldn't the noise of the phone rubbing against your pants seem very loud and therefore set the ring really loud?

met3ora said:
What about if the phone is in your pocket? Wouldn't the noise of the phone rubbing against your pants seem very loud and therefore set the ring really loud?
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I think that would be good actually,I can't hear it well ringing in my pants. Vibrations are a completely different matter

the program use the microphone to identify the background noise to decide which sound profile to use.
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fantastic idea, m8.

Yes, fantastic battery eater.

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Yes, fantastic battery eater.
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dammit, i thought it is about in call(or just machine on/off moment) volume autochange..
you are right, if it's resident constant meter..

nothin said:
dammit, i thought it is about in call(or just machine on/off moment) volume autochange..
you are right, if it's resident constant meter..
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It could be sampling every 30 seconds or so...
I can see another problem: when the phone is in quiet place the volume turns down. What if this quiet place is a pocket of your back pack stored in a quiet cupboard in a loud workplace?
I guess we'll never gonna know unless we can test it in the real.

The example above suggests testing the ambient noise before the phone starts ringing, for say 2 seconds, not constantly, therefore no battery eater.
Surur

surur said:
The example above suggests testing the ambient noise before the phone starts ringing, for say 2 seconds, not constantly, therefore no battery eater.
Surur
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Yeah, but that would create delays...Unless it would vibrate during those 2 secs (but that would make the testing inaccurate)...Bump as promised

I've just seen this... I'll see if I can do anything with the sample code, but my programming is not brilliant at the moment...

sabestian said:
Yeah, but that would create delays...Unless it would vibrate during those 2 secs (but that would make the testing inaccurate)...Bump as promised
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2 seconds is not that long - I have my phone set to ring for 30 seconds before it diverts to voice mail.
Surur

surur said:
2 seconds is not that long - I have my phone set to ring for 30 seconds before it diverts to voice mail.
Surur
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This is a smashing idea.
By the way, Surur what is the registry change to to set the phone ring longer before it diverts to vmail?

l3v5y said:
I've just seen this... I'll see if I can do anything with the sample code, but my programming is not brilliant at the moment...
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Please do try!

agentmikeyd said:
This is a smashing idea.
By the way, Surur what is the registry change to to set the phone ring longer before it diverts to vmail?
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Its not a local setting, its a network setting. Networks like setting it to 10 seconds by default so you can use their expensive voice mail more, but its easy to change (and essential on a WM phone where there's often a ring delay).
You can set it by going
Start>Settings>Phone>Services>Call Forwarding>Get Settings> Forward after X seconds.
Surur

surur said:
Its not a local setting, its a network setting. Networks like setting it to 10 seconds by default so you can use their expensive voice mail more, but its easy to change (and essential on a WM phone where there's often a ring delay).
You can set it by going
Start>Settings>Phone>Services>Call Forwarding>Get Settings> Forward after X seconds.
Surur
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surur
mine touch Start>Settings>Phone>Services>
does not have "call forwarding " as an option

Ask your operator for instructions. Mine gave me the answer straight away.
Now, back on rails, gentlemen!

I will not let this idea sink! Bumpity bump.

Audio Caller Id

I'm looking for a program that will say who is calling and be able to hear it on my jawbone2. Main reason is I usually have my phone in my holster or on my desk. So I can't always see who is calling. It would be very helpful if I could hear who is calling with out having to run to my phone to see who it is.

MSVC - Microsoft Voice Command

I don;t think MSVC is very effective. It does say the number but you can't follow it. It's like doing its job for no purpose.. By the time you figure out what it says, you may miss the call or reach out for the display.
Regards,
Carty..

This is an idea, though not very good, but an idea nonetheless.
maybe you can use one of those Text to speech apps to record all the names of your contacts. Then save them to your phone and assign them each the proper one.
so the ringtone would be "John calling..." or whatever you want.
yeah?

speoples20 said:
I'm looking for a program that will say who is calling and be able to hear it on my jawbone2. Main reason is I usually have my phone in my holster or on my desk. So I can't always see who is calling. It would be very helpful if I could hear who is calling with out having to run to my phone to see who it is.
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Just record yourself saying their name and set it as their ringtone.

Setting as a ringtone won't work because if I'm at work my phone is on vibrate. Plus sometimes I'm in the other room so I can't hear my phone ring.

speoples20 said:
Setting as a ringtone won't work because if I'm at work my phone is on vibrate. Plus sometimes I'm in the other room so I can't hear my phone ring.
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I think you should try MSVC. It talks fast, but it does say the caller name. I find that since the phone will vibrate/ring for about a second before MSVC starts talking I'm usually ready to listen to what it's saying. I use it when driving and it's invaluable.
I don't know how the wing is setup, but on my phone (sprint touch) I hear all ringers through the bluetooth headset when it's connected - it does not come out the speakers. If there is a way to arrange that you could make the ringtone idea work too.

I think MSVC takes some getting used to, but once you're used it you can understand it. Of course, it is much easier to understand it if its announcing a name (as it does if the callers is one of your contacts) than if it is just saying the phone number.

Escalating Ringtone

I've noticed my phone always starts to ring at where I set the volume to and then escalates to be very loud after a few seconds. I didnt see any settings to change this. Is this happening to anybody else?

Is it in your pocket when it does that?
I noticed in the HTC Sense demo video it says if it is in your pocket or purse it will ring loud so you can hear it. I think it has to do with proximity and light sources. If i have it sitting out, it will ring quietly, but it is always loud in my pocket.

adamr240 said:
Is it in your pocket when it does that?
I noticed in the HTC Sense demo video it says if it is in your pocket or purse it will ring loud so you can hear it. I think it has to do with proximity and light sources. If i have it sitting out, it will ring quietly, but it is always loud in my pocket.
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Actually yeah. Thats usually when it gets loud. I dont really like that as it gets super loud sometimes. Why wouldnt they have a setting for this?

Any news on this? Because I also find it quite annoying that the ringer is so loud even when I'm sitting in the quiet office...

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Any news on this? Because I also find it quite annoying that the ringer is so loud even when I'm sitting in the quiet office...
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I have the same issue! It happens on ALL Sense ROM's. If I am running AOSP (CM6 or MIUI) it is not an issue. Are there any ways to disable this setting if it is supposed to do so? Mine is on my belt in a case and when I'm in the office it rings way too loud. If the phone is on my desk it rings as I have the volume set.

Actually I found you can disable the loud ringer in settings really easy
Settings --> Sound --> Pocket mode
There's no way to adjust the volume though,

Apparently the Shift has the same issue as my EVO or as Sprint would call it..."feature".
http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=669629#post669629
You would think there was an app out there to override this.

alphanimal said:
Actually I found you can disable the loud ringer in settings really easy
Settings --> Sound --> Pocket mode
There's no way to adjust the volume though,
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What device/ROM are you running? There is no setting for Pocket mode under settings -> sound on the stock EVO Shift 4G (at least not on mine). Anyone else find this?

I have a Desire Z with the original ROM (Froyo + Sense)

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I have a Desire Z with the original ROM (Froyo + Sense)
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that setting dont apply to shift

Did a complete wipe 2x using Amon Ra Recovery 2.3 and then flashed a stock image file from HBOOT and updated WiMAX, PRI & NV Radio. The issue was not present on the stock ROM. Wiped the stock ROM and flashed Myn's RLS5.....no more issues. Something was corrupt and enabled the sensor to trigger ring loud (when covered or senses low light) as it is designed to do on the Shift. The EVO does not have Pocket Mode in settings. Whatever the cause.....it is now resolved!

I sent a tweet in the direction of @htc about this yesterday, but they haven't answered. Hopefully we get an update that gives us a 2.x release of sense, not this weird "you have some of the features of new sense but not the whole package." The other feature that I know is there is the one where you can flip the phone over to silence the ring, and in fact, BOTH features are undocumented - the user manual for the shift doesn't mention declining a call by flipping the phone OR the word pocket except in warnings about where not to keep it.
I don't have any hope of a satisfactory answer, though, because in an earlier answer to someone about bugs, they said to submit something at htc.com/support and make sure to mark it a bug report - you can't do that anywhere on the email form and the other two options for support aren't things you "submit." The two times I've contacted them by email were also tremendous disappointments, so... there you go.

Tried to second your post on HTC's support forum but their forum software is misconfigured and my email server is rejecting their mail because it is not a fully-qualified hostname. Meh. Like you, I don't hold out enough hope of a fix to bother with the registration process.
You mentioned flip to silence, but there is actually a setting on the Evo Shift 4G to silence the ringtone when the phone is moved. It's under settings - sounds, and it is "quiet ring on pickup". Since the action of flipping the phone involves moving it, I wonder if you are seeing that setting working when you flip your phone over. My phone stops ringing (if it's not in a pocket) when I pick it up off the table. It doesn't decline the call, it just stops the ringer.
Edit: eh, I made an allowance on my mail server so HTC's misconfigured SMTP server could send my activation message and let me register.
By the way, I posted a workaround on Android Central that works for the way I use the phone. I created a silent ringtone. Then I set the phone to vibrate as well. So in my pocket I feel/hear the vibration but I don't get the ridiculously-loud rings. But I can hear my notifications at normal volume. When the phone is on my desk, the vibration and screen lighting up are enough of an alert for me. Obviously this won't work if you ever keep the phone in a bag or somewhere that you can't hear or feel the vibration, but it works for me as a pocket user.

Three ticks up from silenced on the volume rocker:
Picking the phone up off my desk quiets the ring, flipping it silences the ring. I wonder if turning off quiet ring on pickup will turn off flip to silence... might as well try it.
aaand no it doesn't. Pickup didn't quiet (per the setting now being off) but flip still did silence the ring.
Interesting note: flip-to-silence is actually a silencer; it doesn't decline the call immediately.

http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/112/t/9935.aspx
For anyone else that wants to weigh in on the issue on the official HTC support forum. Maybe they won't ignore us too hard.

nurrwick said:
Three ticks up from silenced on the volume rocker:
Picking the phone up off my desk quiets the ring, flipping it silences the ring. I wonder if turning off quiet ring on pickup will turn off flip to silence... might as well try it.
aaand no it doesn't. Pickup didn't quiet (per the setting now being off) but flip still did silence the ring.
Interesting note: flip-to-silence is actually a silencer; it doesn't decline the call immediately.
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Ok, makes sense - since I use a silent ringtone, the "quiet" and "silent" are the same to me, LOL. But yes, it doesn't decline the call.
I actually liked the Touch Pro2 where flipping during a call would turn on the speakerphone. Why can't they keep good features like that instead of forcing this new stuff down our throats with no option to turn it off.

Bump/Update: After two tweets on the issue and an entire week of the post I made sitting on the HTC forums, I have had enough of being ignored and went to the email support option.
I'm not resetting my phone again, so I instead borrowed the New Issue text from Google Code project pages and sent steps to duplicate.
Anybody else that might have this problem is welcome to weigh in; I gave links to this thread and the one over on Android Central in my forum post on HTC, which is linked in the support message I sent.

Another update: Today I received my response; I don't have to reset my phone (yet) and my concern is being escalated to whatever the next level of CS is called.
They say escalated department is first-come, first-served, so it may be a while before I know more.

The problem is that HTC sees this as a feature, not a bug. They market this as a way to hear your phone when it's in a bag. While it makes perfect sense to us end-users to have an option to turn this off, from a lab testing standpoint it's not a priority because the function works as designed. If HTC had really thought this through, they should realize that there are some things phones should never do, and ringing at maximum volume unless specifically directed by the user is one of them.
The funny thing is that I'd like almost the exact opposite behavior. I'd prefer the phone to ring (quietly) on my desk, and automatically switch to vibrate when it's in my pocket (as determined by the prox sensor). But people who carry their phones in bags or purses wouldn't benefit from this option. Everybody's needs are different; HTC just determined what they think is the most common scenario and coded Sense that way. I have to give them credit for thinking up the idea, but since it doesn't work for everyone it should be more flexible.
Thanks for taking the time to bring this to their attention. It may well be that a couple of generations of phones from now we'll start seeing more options in these settings, which would be fantastic.

Update: HTC has been calling me at work, once yesterday once today. I have not been at work this week but will be in tomorrow; they gave me a number to call if I wanted to get in touch with them sooner. I will be calling them back as soon as I'm done with my planned tasks tomorrow (assuming they haven't called me first).
Here's hoping news about when we get an update that stops this nonsense comes swiftly!