GPS Intermediate Driver not working - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Is anybody using the GPS control panel without problems? Or had them resolved somehow?
The GPS Intermediate Driver is a new feature in Windows Mobile 5 that is supposed to allow multiple applications to use the GPS device (its serial port, to be correct).
Usually, the GPS control panel needs to be enabled by setting the Hide value in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings] to 0. (In addition, it has been suggested to remove it altogether, and to add a DWORD value "Group" = 2.)
With the GPS control panel, the GPS Intermediate Driver can be enabled and public and private COM ports can be configured.
All these settings end up under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver].
One reboot or soft-reset later, and this is supposed to work like a charm. (http://blogs.conchango.com/kenibarwick/archive/2006/03/19/3119.aspx).
Except that, with my TyTN and a Xaiox Super III Instant Fix, it doesn't.
The GPS works fine directly with the Nemerix test app or GPS Tuner, but using the Intermediate Driver, the Bluetooth connection is never initiated and no data is received.
No error message, whatsoever. Just silence.
Now I would like to know if anybody else had this issue and if and how they were able to resolve it.
The PocketPC SDK documentation lists registry values to configure GPSID logging (CurrentLogFile and OldLogFile), but to no avail. The files are not being written, which is not a surprise because the Bluetooth connection is never brought up.
The Xaiox InstantFix is a small cheap Bluetooth GPS mouse that has quite a remarkable sensitivity. It really does work indoors, (not in the basement though) and city/forest areas are not a problem at all.
My TyTN is fresh from repair and I hadn't need a reset in a week if it wasn't for this problem (and my frustration-compensating playing around with Wisbar Advance and the Vista theme, but that's another story).

Hi HB_TyTN,
I have the same problem. Using an HTC Universal, ROM 1.90.96 and Radio version 1.130.00.

wait, i thought the vario II doesnt' even have GPS on it?

chamelion said:
wait, i thought the vario II doesnt' even have GPS on it?
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Check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1028940&mode=linear&highlight=chip+sets#post1028940
and this continuation of same thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279151&page=5&highlight=chip+sets
Mike

hmm ok... so its a controversial topic. seems nobody has actually made use of the GPS funcionality, it just seems that there may be something in there that allows for GPS?

chamelion said:
hmm ok... so its a controversial topic. seems nobody has actually made use of the GPS funcionality, it just seems that there may be something in there that allows for GPS?
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You mean you didn't know about the MI5 FBI plot to track Hermes owners being as they're obviously radical with phones of mass destruction? Conspiarcy theory, tosh, that's just a seeded idea to convince us they don't know we spend 24hrs a day abusing our TyTns in the garden shed, developing a today screen plug in called Global Thermo Nuclear War Beta!
Mike

mikechannon said:
You mean you didn't know about the MI5 FBI plot to track Hermes owners being as they're obviously radical with phones of mass destruction? Conspiarcy theory, tosh, that's just a seeded idea to convince us they don't know we spend 24hrs a day abusing our TyTns in the garden shed, developing a today screen plug in called Global Thermo Nuclear War Beta!
Mike
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dude, when did the beta come out??
<scrambles into the garden shed to install the beta>

chamelion said:
dude, when did the beta come out??
<scrambles into the garden shed to install the beta>
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Watch out for mushroom cloud can cause minor irritation!
Mike

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iGuidance 3 issues

Well, first off let me say I have just upgraded from iGuidance 2 to iGuidance 3. iG 3 is about 8 MB bigger than iG2 and therefore I had to install it on my mini SD card. It works perfectly fine, loads seems to be just as fast (since maps are stored on the mini SD with either program. Anyway, my problem is basically that the program works great, but when the lady comes on telling me when to turn, lets say in 2 miles...it is REEEEAAAALLLY slow and exhagerated. She goes like, Turn.........left..........in........two........miles...... I recently started overclocking my 8125 to 260 MHz to see if it was a speed issue, but no change as far as the sound goes. Any ideas?
turn off your internet connection and you should be OK
DNO
IGuidance 3
Runs fine for me, at stock speed, program and maps on the mini-SD. Maybe it is the overclocking?
- Tim
I have Iguidance 3.0. Now I need the GPS module.
Which GPS module do you all use? What is the best now? Holux, Globalsat? or some other.
Thanks
[email protected]
i use the Rikaline GPS-6033 Bluetooth from buygpsnow.com its $89
picks up 32 sats works indoors and its fast at cold startup locks on to sats
in under 30 seconds i use tomtom and iguidance 3
Re: IGuidance 3
Tim Fountain said:
Runs fine for me, at stock speed, program and maps on the mini-SD. Maybe it is the overclocking?
- Tim
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I tried it at stock speeds and overclocked speeds, it still did the same thing. I'll try turning off my ActiveSync with my Exchange later today when I'm going on a small road trip and see if that solves the problem.
jschaff said:
I have Iguidance 3.0. Now I need the GPS module.
Which GPS module do you all use? What is the best now? Holux, Globalsat? or some other.
Thanks
[email protected]
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I use the Holux GPSlim 360 I think it is. The number may be off though. It's uber small and I just throw it in the center console in my car and use it when necessary. Cold start is about 30-45 seconds.
The Rikaline GPS-6033 does not show to be SirfIII. I thought this is the latest technology to get. Is this a more recent technology or is the SirfIII over blown?
I brought this to the attention of iNavcorp, makers of iGuidance, a few weeks ago. This was their reply:
"Our programmers are currently looking into this issue. In the mean time, while turning off the phone will resolve the issue, based on our knowledge, you should be able to simply disable the gprs (wireless data connection) function on your PPC phone which will also resolve the slow voice issue, but this way you will still have phone access."
I had told them that turning off the phone solves the problem. Anyway, they are aware, and I am hopeful that they will fix this in an upcoming patch.
p.s. DNO's answer was right on...
jschaff said:
The Rikaline GPS-6033 does not show to be SirfIII. I thought this is the latest technology to get. Is this a more recent technology or is the SirfIII over blown?
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SiRFstarIII is amazing. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I use the Holux GPSlim 360 I think it is. The number may be off though. It's uber small and I just throw it in the center console in my car and use it when necessary. Cold start is about 30-45 seconds.
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It is the GPSlim 236 and it is a great unit! I love mine.
The voice on mine works great, I could not get it to instal to the SD, I had to install the CAB there, and then run that to install the actual program to the phone. My problem is that the maps haven't been updated with streets that have been made in the last few years, and the shopping POIs arn't that great.
I have a Houlix 268 slim (I Think thats the model), and it randomly loses connection, so I have to power-cycle it and restart IG3, for it to regain connection.
Also every once and a while it does a wierd click sound when I'm slowing down.
mm_thor said:
I brought this to the attention of iNavcorp, makers of iGuidance, a few weeks ago. This was their reply:
"Our programmers are currently looking into this issue. In the mean time, while turning off the phone will resolve the issue, based on our knowledge, you should be able to simply disable the gprs (wireless data connection) function on your PPC phone which will also resolve the slow voice issue, but this way you will still have phone access."
I had told them that turning off the phone solves the problem. Anyway, they are aware, and I am hopeful that they will fix this in an upcoming patch.
p.s. DNO's answer was right on...
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I did notice this was the issue this weekend. Is there a "quick" way to disable GPRS? I guess i'll keep an eye on iNavcorps website.
Turn it off from the comm manager. Mine works fine while I am using BT for my headset and on the phone talking.
Do iGuidance do maps for Europe? THey seem to have discontinued their european product; if I can get the europe map from v.2.12 will it work with v.3.0?
Cheers.

POssible to turn wizard into tracking device with GPS

I was pondering if it would be possible to turn the Wizard into a GPS tracking device. Im not sure if someone has already created a program for this but it seems like it would be pretty simple. Basically just have the device send GPS coordinates via data connection to a host pc and have them translated to a map. I might be missing something though. I dont have a gps receiver yet to try it out, but I would like to know if anyone has done it before or if its possible.
bendog2784 said:
I was pondering if it would be possible to turn the Wizard into a GPS tracking device. Im not sure if someone has already created a program for this but it seems like it would be pretty simple. Basically just have the device send GPS coordinates via data connection to a host pc and have them translated to a map. I might be missing something though. I dont have a gps receiver yet to try it out, but I would like to know if anyone has done it before or if its possible.
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Hi there, I have done this with a little piece of software from here.
www.3dtracking.net
When I first heard about them, the service was free. They now charge for most services but the free system is still there.
When you get to that page, look under "About 3dtracking" and the free bit is listed at the bottom.
All you have to do is create an account, which is simple and then download the software.
For anyone else reading this, they do software for the S60 series phones too. I had it running in my Nokia 7610 (Before the wizard of course).
The 7610 software is buggy but the PDA version seems to work excellently.
Hope that answers your question.
GPS tracking...
Yes, there are a number of programs available to do that.
Try mine:-
http://www.grillo.biz/position/software.asp
or
http://www.whereismygps.net/
Charlie Grillo

Dual applications on single GPS

Hi guys,
This has been something I've been trying for a long time (since I first got my Wizard nad now my hermes), but to no avail.
I've got TomTom 5 and the 3dtracking software from http://www.3dtracking.net/home.aspx, both of which work very well on their own.
However, trying to get them to work together is a nightmare.
I've tried franson GPS gate in the past, but found it very tempremental and I'm loathed to fork out 15 quid to do something that my device should handle anyway.
I've enabled the GPS control panel, no problem whatsoever, chosen the appropriate hardware and software ports in the GPS control panel, set up an outgoing port in the bluetooth settings, told the PPC to manage my connections automatically, told TomTom to use another bluetooth GPS on the appropriate software port and told 3dtracking what software port to use and bob's yer uncle... nothing happens! (Good grief, that's a hellishly constructed sentence! Sorry!)
Anyway, has anyone successfully got this to work?
I've tried a number of combinations of ports etc., and also follwed about the only guide I could find on the net, but nothing seems to work.
Your help would be appreciated!
Adrian
Any thoughts guys?
What version of GpsGate have you tried ?
The product has developed very nicely; I am using GpsGate with 3 applications using the GPS signal at the same time without problems at all.
Martin
Hi Martin,
Thanks for that. I've not used version 3 to be honest, it's something I might give a try in the end.
I'm by no means averse to paying for a piece of software, but it wrankles me somwhat when the device is supposed to do something on its own.
Is there an inherant problem with the control panel function, or something that can be fixed do we think?
Thanks,
Adrian
Hi!
I got the same problem over here.
Trying to use Navigon MobileNavigator 5 and POIObserver via the built in GPS-panel. BT-GPS is a NaviLock BT-338
Thanks
Brevi

How To get GPS working

can anybody tell me how & what is the step to get the GPS works ?
thanks..
Put some GPS software on your Ameo and point it to COM4.
what are some of the best gps software for ameo?
I would think google maps with the ability to real time track your location would be great. Anyone try that?
Tomtom Navigator 6.
Coz it's free.
Edit - I in no way condone the use of pirated software, and I'll no doubt burn in hell for my sins....
Dopod U1000
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
wagger said:
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
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i got my DOPOD U1000 from Taiwan, and GPS works great. you need to set the post to COM4, signal is much better then the BT device i got before. It doesn't matter where you buy your device
wagger said:
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
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the Global Positioning System is global, and should work anywhere on the globe !! apart from in war zones (and near US military bases) where the signal is sometimes deliberately degraded so enemies cant use satellite guided missiles.
wu5262 said:
i got my DOPOD U1000 from Taiwan, and GPS works great. you need to set the post to COM4, signal is much better then the BT device i got before. It doesn't matter where you buy your device
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should i install any third party software beforehand?
Help
My Device can find the GPS on com 4 but it will not work with Google maps or pocket streets can any one help?
Thanks
Ian
I've got Tom Tom Navigator 5 working (using COM 5), but I've also not managed to get Google Maps working.
GPS is not working with GM
edintao said:
My Device can find the GPS on com 4 but it will not work with Google maps or pocket streets can any one help?
Thanks
Ian
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This is also a big problem in Germany - it's not possible to get it working with Google Maps. We tried everything (also to disable the GPS-Splitter and use Com5 which helps with some programs, but not with Google Maps).
So we gave up for the moment waiting for an update (maybe Athena, maybe Google).
Teja
alanplum said:
Put some GPS software on your Ameo and point it to COM4.
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Got mine working in TT6 by doing:
Other NMEA GPS Receiver
GPS Baud Rate: 4800
Com4
Is this what everyone else is doing ?
is the Baud rate correct?
Its quite chuggy/slow compared to tt6 on universal. i.e. 2-3fps as opposed to almost smooth on universal
Also, is it possible to change that tomtom icon thats on the today screen ? its so ugly and blocky - really detracts from the otherwise lovely Ameo screen
Mine is working great. By the way, i'm using MapKing10. When setting the port just select auto and the software should be able to detect the port in use. My unit can lock on into the satellite signal in less then 5s, thats impressive.
Hi
Does anyone know where to get a copy of the aforementioned TT6 for free? I had just bought TT navigator 6 with GB + Western Europe for my Mio A701 about 3 months ago but was gutted to find I couldnt transfer the licence to my new Ameo so i sold the boxed product with the Mio.
Anyone know where I can get one (strictly for "backup" purposes of course).
Cheers
Very easily found on torrent sites.
I won't give a link here as I assume that would be frowned on by the management....
ok, will have a look. not that familiar with all this torrent stuff!
ta
GPS Port
I looked in the registry and I found that com 5 is the official port. Strange enough com 4 and 5 work.
Getting GPS working
I purchased an A701 last week and had one hell of a time tring to get TT6 to work, even though MM worked fine. It appears that some software originally designed for ealier MS does not like Com4. I loaded a program called VisualGPSse, a freedownload, and set that to com 4 and bingo TT6 spang into life. Before using TT now I lauch that small app and it works fine. I,ll try and find the link if Google doen't find it for you.
ps. Does anyone know of an app that will allow me to use hands free, my Mio Rom R65 seems duff in this area.
getting GPS to work
I've installed my vehicle navigation software (copilot live v5) without any problem twice.
But when I tried to instal another GPS-based application called MobileGolfScorer, the system was simply unable to sense any satellite signal. Not only that, the system became extremely slow to the point of freezing up and not responding.
Then, I read about the post that says com5 is the default, so I said to myself may be I should use com5 instead of 4 in my start>setting>GPS.
After changing to com5, my MobileGolfScorer was able to recognise signal although the signal was extremely weak. Also, it was no longer freezing up. I thought that may be I've at least solved the problem and the weak signal may be due to the fact that I was not directly under the open sky.
The new problem is that after changing to com5, my copilot stopped working! When trying to reset GPS within copilot, it just said that I either did not have the GPS connected, or I was having the wrong com selection and/or baud rate. I tried all possible combinations of com and baud rate (including letting it find automatically) but unfortunately the results were the same.
Then I thought to myself may be copilot can only use com4. Since vehicle navigation is a more important application to me, I may have to sacrifice MobileGolfScorer until the problem is resolved. So I went to start>setting>GPS and reverted to com 4.
I then tried to get copilot to work but now it would not. MGS also would not work. So now I have two GPS applications that are not able to sense any signal. I can see the gsm led orange light(GPS) and green light(phone) alternating, which means that the GPS is supposed to be working, althoug the orange light disappears by itself after a while. The thing is, with or without the orange light, the software were not able to sense any GPS signal.
What do all these suggest? Any idea???
Chapter 2 to my story:
Since I'm also experiencing MD lost cluster problems, I had wonder if it could be that some system files used by the copilot program is corruptted. So I decided to hard-reset the unit and reinstall everything from scratch again. The first thing that I did after hard resett was to instal MobileGolfScorer. It did not work when I used com4 and baud rate 4800. Could not detect any GPS signal although the orange light was blinking. Then I installed Copilot live Pocket PC v5. This software has no problem detecting the signal right away. In my mind, it seems to suggest that the reason for copilot to have stopped working could be due to file corruption, while MobileGolfScorer still for some reason could not detect it. What I also failed to understnad is why for a very brief period it did detect very week signal (see chapter 1 above).
My fear: Once I was so confident that com4 and baud rate 4800 solves all problems. Now I'm less sure what is going on. If you're lucky, it works; if you not lucky it does'nt seems to work. You could be doing exactly the same thing entering the same setting but you could get different results. Is it due to file corruption? Why does it get corrupted so easily?
Let's hope some smarter mind could figure this out for us.
Its all about the sucky comport management in windows.
If one app is accessing a com port, no others can.
If windows GPS management is accessing the GPS on com5, then you shouldnt connect to com5 yourself. The whole point of the windows management is that the software port (often port4) it creates is meant to be able to be read by multiple programs.
However, most programs dont seem to like the software port. Eg, googlemaps.
I just turned off the MS GPS management and only use apps that directly attatch to com5, and only one app at a time.

Using my Inc's GPS through the Laptop?

I was wondering if anyone knew of a way of sharing the GPS device in my Dinc, so I can use it on mapping programs on my laptop, so I would need to register as a external comm device I think...
I'e heard people can do it with the camera, so I was wondering if its at all possible to do it with the GPS...
Maybe you know it can be done, with an app or setting, or maybe someone knows of an app that can do just this, please feel free to add your thoughts
MOD please move to where you feel its good, I couldn't figure where to post it
Thanks all
should be in General
There is no interface to use the GPS with external devices.
krelvinaz said:
should be in General
There is no interface to use the GPS with external devices.
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But couldn't one be developed?
I have been wondering this since I had my first gps enabled smartphone. Every now and then I would search for this exact question. If apps on the phone can use gps why couldn't a laptop see it?
Sorry if this is a dumb question.
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk
so you guys want an app to send gps signal to a laptop?
This is based on opinion but i don't believe the gps chip on the phone can broadcast via usb or blue tooth due to hardware limitations. on the other hand if there was a program that could display the phones screen then i guess thats about as close as your gonna get.
zeke1988 said:
so you guys want an app to send gps signal to a laptop?
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Basically yes, So I can use it with my Chart Plotter programs, and location service programs.
I once had a USB Bluetooth dongle, and it registered as a Comm device over bluetooth, I was just wondering if thats at all possible to do using the Dinc, as android is very open, might be a way.
Thanks if anyone actually looks into this, willing to donate if anyone gets this working
I know this isn't what you asked, but... USB GPS dongles are pretty cheap on ebay and other places, I've used them before and they work well. Just a thought.
This may not be exactly what you want but it the closest thing I can think of. http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.gpstether
Im not sure if there is a client for windows, but it will work with gpsd on MAC/Linux.
mrlanrat said:
This may not be exactly what you want but it the closest thing I can think of. http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.gpstether
Im not sure if there is a client for windows, but it will work with gpsd on MAC/Linux.
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Hmm interesting, so if this works with Linux/mac , maybe something can be developed for Windows, and that is similar or something, i'll keep my eye out I guess, if anyone knows anything, please post
junjlo said:
This is based on opinion but i don't believe the gps chip on the phone can broadcast via usb or blue tooth due to hardware limitations. on the other hand if there was a program that could display the phones screen then i guess thats about as close as your gonna get.
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Its not the GPS chip that has to broadcast. It theoretically works like this:
The GPS gets your location and the all data it was meant to collect. It returns that data to your phone. There would be an app on your phone that collects and aggregates this data and sends it over Bluetooth or USB. Then a program on the client computer would be like a driver. It would make the client think your phone is a gps receiver and collect the data your phone is sending over. Then, any program that uses the gps functionality will recognize your phone as a GPS device.
I only know how it works, but I am not good enough to actually develop it.
dgourd said:
Its not the GPS chip that has to broadcast. It theoretically works like this:
The GPS gets your location and the all data it was meant to collect. It returns that data to your phone. There would be an app on your phone that collects and aggregates this data and sends it over Bluetooth or USB. Then a program on the client computer would be like a driver. It would make the client think your phone is a gps receiver and collect the data your phone is sending over. Then, any program that uses the gps functionality will recognize your phone as a GPS device.
I only know how it works, but I am not good enough to actually develop it.
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Well thats a start, do any Developers know anything about this?
BlueNMEA
At least one dev has this working with WinMo and there are a few reviewers who have gotten it to work with a laptop... Google "BlueNMEA"...
Cheers!
Thanks for the info, i took a look at it, but doesn't seem to be working perfectly yet, we'll have to see what happens in the future,

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