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Hi All.
Just to keep things in perspective, can we use this thread from here on out to report successes and failures of all development or progress with regards to:
CID Unlocking
Free Sim Unlocking
ROMs cooked or official
...and any other developments relating to the project.
Once enough positive results have been posted, we can ask Midget_1990 or another moderator to move this thread to 'Upgrades', but for now, I think more people visit this forum, which will give our project some more exposure for ideas and most importantly....Donations!
To donate to the development of the Athena Project and know what where your money is going please read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311651
Please post ideas for the project here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311433
Let's keep this thread for technical matters. Thanks for your support and help.
Copied post to here...hope you don't mind hdubli.
hdubli said:
What is reqd is someone..or our Dear POF, make a or modify the bootloader which will make our devices Super CID and and will allow the unsigned Rom code to flash.Since the Chipsets of Hermes and Athena are same, so I hv tried lots of tools, was also on the verge of bricking my SPL, but could not make it Super CID yet.
I thought I shd share this, since topic is started.
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Please share any comments with regards to technical matters here. Cheers peeps.
cooked roms are going well
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cooked roms are going well
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nice cant wait my device has started acting up crashing so will wait till a cooked rom or too to play around
Boinger_66, Midget_1990, Antivirus - can you PM email addresses to add to the Athena Project mailing list please?
Midget_1990 is our first of 2 developers.
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cooked roms are going well
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Friends of Athena.....how corny! ROFL.
All, we're glad to announce that Midget_1990 has accepted our offer and will be the first of 2 developers who will be working on the Athena for the solutions outlined in previous posts/threads etc.
Please don't bombard with pressurized questions like 'when will it be ready' and so forth. He and another developer (not yet chosen one yet - what say you all?) will keep us updated directly, which means all contributors on the mailing list will know as soon as we do, but the rest of the forum will be informed ONLY when we have something concrete to share.
No one is going to be holding out on you because you didn't or couldn't contribute financially or otherwise, we just have an obligation to those of you who have done so. We're talking probably same or next day notification to the forum if/when we have any solution that can be applied by all owners of the Athena, regardless of which variant it is, but ultimately that is not up to me, but the developers as they may breakthrough's for one device before being able to test it on another.
Also, closer to the time of a finished ROM, we could do with some brave souls who will do some testing for the rest of us. I'll be doing it too, so you won't be alone.
If you're interested PM me, apphoen or amongst yourselves and decide who will do it and post the finished list back in this thread please, so we know in advance who is on-board.
Thanks for all your support guys and gals. We all appreciate this community spirit and effort.
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Midget_1990 can you please PM apphoen to include you in the mailing list. Thanks.
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Midget_1990 can you please PM apphoen to include you in the mailing list. Thanks.
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already have
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already have
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@All other contributors, please be patient apphoen is snoed under right now with his regular job, but will be sweeping this thread when he gets the time and will update the mailing list as soon as he can.
Don't fret if you have not heard anything yet via e-mail. That's why I'm keeping everyone informed until all is up and running.
Meanwhile the collection is going well and I am liaising with our mystery member to secure the devices. Just waiting on exact purchase prices and shipping costs etc.
Contributors Check your e-mails in about 5
So sorry about the long delay friends. Been inundated with PM's and the like.
Check your e-mails for a detailed update. Hope it got to?!?!
If you receive nothing within 15 minutes, I'll contact apphoen to see what I did wrong.
Don't worry I have a copy of it, so you'll definately get it today.
mackaby007
Developer Team complete...Welcome Jasjamming.
Friends...we're pleased to announce that we now have Mr BlackShadow Jasjamming on board.
We all know how beautiful his black ROMs are, don't we? So I won't spend any more time justifying this decision. I think I speak for everyone when I say 'Welcome aboard JJ we're glad to have ya.'
Now we have 2 excellent developers on our project, all we need now is more money to get the devices, so the party can begin.
I must stress that neither developer is doing this for monetary or device gain, but for the love it.
Midget_1990 was the only developer to actively take part in our forums and Jasjamming offered his help too as soon as he heard of our plight and offered his help FOC.
Having said that neither one of our developers would get very far without an Athena, so thanks to all the members that have contributed verbally/writing and of course our donators as this is what we are gunning for, 2 Athena's for our developers and some time for them to get acquainted with these devices, so I'll only say this one last time and won't mention it again.
Please don't pressure them, they will do what they can for us, but they need to work for a living too.
If we can gently remind any newcomers who may have missed these last few posts, then the community will be helping itself.
I has sent the e-mail to all the contributors via the mailing list, but obviously got something muddled up. It has more info on how things are developing.
Look out for an announcement from our webmaster boinger66 who has hosted and designed a beautiful website for further resources, info/downloads and hacks in the future, just for all variants of the Athena.
Nothing will be taken away from xda devs, only to complement it from the Athena development point of view, by having easily accessible info and software.
If anyone is not happy with where this is going, please say so. Don't forget it's non-profit and for the good of the Athena community.
Wow! Well done, looks like we've got some great people on our side now! I've been a member of this forum for some time now and every now and again people get together and someone organises something cool and community based like this. Jasjamming is the ultimate master chef- I used his Black ROMs on my Hermes and they were superb! Hopefully we can get somewhere with the CID unlock or Hard-SPL so that we can use customised ROMS!
Brilliant work so far guys!
Fin
findus said:
Wow! Well done, looks like we've got some great people on our side now! I've been a member of this forum for some time now and every now and again people get together and someone organises something cool and community based like this. Jasjamming is the ultimate master chef- I used his Black ROMs on my Hermes and they were superb! Hopefully we can get somewhere with the CID unlock or Hard-SPL so that we can use customised ROMS!
Brilliant work so far guys!
Fin
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I agree.
jasjammings black3 and 4 are ****ing fast, way faster than the other wm6 hermes Roms. i don't know how he did it and what his secret is but i can't wait for midget_1990 and jasjamming working on the athena.
thx for this project.
You're gonna hate me now...
After such a lovely announcement earlier, I have to sadly be the bearer of bad news....we've got to let Jasjamming go. I've PM'd and e-mailed him about this. Maybe he can cook up some seewt ROMs for us in the future. But right now after careful consideration I think it in the best interest of the development to prioritize our immediate needs rather than wants.
We have Midget_1990 as our chief ROM cooker and his experience/expertise in VGA ROM cooking cannot be ignored...our devices are also VGA ROM based, so having him on board is a necessary forgone conclusion.
I first approached Olipro last night, because he's **** hot on bootloader/low level stuff, just what we need to get our devices CID/SuperCID and Sim unlocked! I was impatient for his reply, and when I saw Jasjamming offering his help, I jumped at the chance fearing we wouldn't get another developer soon, but knowing that his specialty is also ROM cooking, but not VGA.
So...when Olipro got back to me with a positive 'I'm up for it', I couldn't say 'no' as he is exactly what this projects needs too. So he's now officially on-board. Welcome Olipro and sorry to announce your joining us under these circumstances.
I take full responsibility for the hasty decision, but I was just on a mission for the community and wanted any top developer out there without remembering what this project really needs.
We need the team we have now. Hope you're all still with me on this. Let me know if you disagree, but please remember...without CID unlock were screwed anyway as Jasjamming honestly admitted to me was not his forte.
So unless there are serious objections from the contributors, it's full steam ahead with our chief VGA ROM cooker and chief low level coder.
Sorry about the tacky titles.lol but you all know what I mean.
* Some nice member has donated 300 euros to the project. Many thanks to you from all of us.
Apphoen will e-mail us with a =n updated figure by tomorrow morning. There are a few niggling problems with the server, but rest assured we got some professionals on board that really makes our donations worthwhile.
Bad news. Our mystery member has not yet come through with the info we need to purchase an Athena. So as a contingency plan we have to donate more, but I think we almost have enough for the first device even at the dear prices they currently are.
I'll talk to Inkino tomorrow in Tottenham court Road and see if they can do anything for us as we want 2, but don't hold your breath...business is business.
Last but not least for tonight (I'm ending my 11 hour shift now)...I'll recap on who one might need to talk to, even as non benefactors as you're still beneficiaries.
Questions or help offered about:
Website development - PM boinger66 [Webmaster]
Coordination - PM Itxda or myself
Accounts - PM apphoen
Development on Athena - Midget_1990 & Olipro
or PM amongst yourselves and tell us what you want. We're not separate from you, just members like you gunning for the common goal of fully unlocking our devices so we can flash the WM6 ROMs of our choice.
That was yet another long post. Sorry peeps, but the contributors deserve the right to know where their money is going and the rest of you is us anyway, so you will be kept in the loop...just not as soon.
mackaby007 said:
* Some nice member has donated 300 euros to the project. Many thanks to you from all of us.
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holy sh*t! who?!?
good call btw, a hard one, but you made the right decision.
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If anyone is not happy with where this is going, please say so. Don't forget it's non-profit and for the good of the Athena community.
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Hopefully we're also free to say that we are VERY HAPPY with where this is going! Thanks to everyone who has the time, passion, and/or expertise to make this happen.
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Bad news. Our mystery member has not yet come through with the info we need to purchase an Athena. So as a contingency plan we have to donate more, but I think we almost have enough for the first device even at the dear prices they currently are.
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would it be cheaper if brought on a contract?
£119 on FlexT Web 'n' Walk 35 in store. If someone needed a contract coincidentally. But then if they nuke the phone, they have to go through T-Mobile to get another one...
They may be cheaper now as the web prices are reducing.
Yup - I also think it was a good call on the dev front - ROMs won't be any good if we can't get them onto the device in the first place... and while I like IMEI-Check, I can't see the point of organizing a mass-shipment of devices their way.
Having said that, I for one am willing to do another round of funding once we get started to get another dev on board... but we might even have to do that anyway to get another machine if we don't get a break on the price...
Al is not lost....
All is not lost yet my friends. Our mystery member and some of us have been in discussion and it looks like we might be getting the first device some time next week, but we'll keep you informed when it's concrete.
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
spoke too soon i guess the terminology, u got a fully fledged working liberated rom for gps, and its a good edition, we have to continue to talk even if no result appears so we can show the honored developers that we are still egger for what ever they are finding so they continue to develope, otherwise they will think theretime is just lost for bunsh of ghosts, if you look at my post onto ways of using ur shift so u can make it more intersting untill that time where u its completly unlocked, i think september is going to be the best month for shift full of good news and following to that xmass time where the big bomb phone being enabled am not ofcourse basing this on any finding nor i have contacted Nostradamos lately , its how i wish things to go
(1) And what did you contribute?
pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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[2] Do you have better ideas to help this out?
I do not contribute, since I do not know anything of programming, but at least, read and support the work of many, many people, which do it for free. However, one of the things I will never do is demand anything here, only wait patiently.
Since I bought my Tytn two years ago, one of the reasons I bought the Shift (and very soon the Diamond) was the existence of "xda-developers" and the people which is in here.
Please, be more sensible to all of us: read the forum if you like, take and use the software which suits to you, but never, never demand anything here. The only thing you can do is to be grateful to all those unknown people which make possible the existence of this site.
José.
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I do not contribute, since I do not know anything of programming, but at least, read and support the work of many, many people, which do it for free. However, one of the things I will never do is demand anything here, only wait patiently.
Since I bought my Tytn two years ago, one of the reasons I bought the Shift (and very soon the Diamond) was the existence of "xda-developers" and the people which is in here.
Please, be more sensible to all of us: read the forum if you like, take and use the software which suits to you, but never, never demand anything here. The only thing you can do is to be grateful to all those unknown people which make possible the existence of this site.
José.
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i agree 100% with you am a user of windows based mobile since 2003 and i still use it because of this forum, it always made any phone i buy worth 4 or 5 times more than its reall value, even the shift now if it coasts 1400
i would say my return value is like that
600 for vista laptop side
300 for winmo side
the remainder is what this site will give me and guess what after 1 year from today the value will be another 900 dollars which is more than the original value where you have bought this phone at
pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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Firstly, take your caps lock off, it means youre shouting!
Secondly, I have owned a Shift since the day it was released in the UK. these forums have been invaluable to me personally. Using the forums I have: -
Liberated my Shift
Dual Booting my shift with XP
Solved a Wi-fi problem
Taken advice on the dissapearing SD card issues
And will be trying the new ROM
How can you possibly say its a waste of time. Its comments like yours (which are obviously written in anger) that really annoy me. I am not a programmer so I cannot assist with ROMs etc, but I check this forum everyday and I am thankful the guys/gals at XDA-Developers keep this site up and running for FREE for the likes of you and me.
I suggest you get off your high horse and apologise. If it wasnt for the likes of Cmonex, Prof and Febelus (who worked so hard finding XP drivers) sites like XDA-Developers would not exist, then we'd all have to work a lot harder to make our devices more usuable.
pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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Please if you do not like it think that no one forced you to join.
respect the effort of all the members.
if you cant find anything usefull then try harder to find it, myself I found a lot of things here.
regards
and keep your voice down.
pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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If you dont submit anything and only like to take you have no right to say anything .
I dont know how to program and therefore Iam very happy with this site it helps me a lot there is a answer here for most problems and there are people here dedicating a lot of there spare time to help us and I suppose themself out . we should salute them not attack them .
There is ofcourse a better solution please stay of this site or keep silent.
Agree with everyone's comments - firstly, please respect the work that has already taken place...it is not insiginificant as you would have us all think. Secondly, liek me you propbably cannot contribute to code work, but you CAN contribute support by discussing experiences no matter how small.
Communities are about sharing, not sitting back waiting for those doing the work to deliver rewards at your feet...wake up...
I guess the most obvious statement would be :
" When you bought the Shift, didnt you know about all its limitations
or do you just want to mooch of contributions to this forum? "
i am so tired of people who buy their devices, expecting the members
of this forum to turn them in to marbels of technology.
I bought the shift because I thought it would be useful for me, and it is.
Any modification, hint or advice from the people here and any contribution
i can make, are god given.
Thank you all for the hard work guys and girls...
Well said!
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I guess the most obvious statement would be :
" When you bought the Shift, didnt you know about all its limitations
or do you just want to mooch of contributions to this forum? "
i am so tired of people who buy their devices, expecting the members
of this forum to turn them in to marbels of technology.
I bought the shift because I thought it would be useful for me, and it is.
Any modification, hint or advice from the people here and any contribution
i can make, are god given.
Thank you all for the hard work guys and girls...
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aquasesh
You are right. I come here regularly, so that I could learn something and make my devices for better usage by extending and expanding their capabilities. This forum is more educative than anything else. Sometimes you have to wait for a better result. This is not a paid forum or support. Everyone here is putting their free cycles and making these devices more powerful and useful. the more you wait, the more you learn. Majority of times it takes a lot of time, because it is step by step advancement not a single day work, because most of us have to learn and understand device architecture and remove barriers; even a human's birth takes well more than 9 months and patience. There will be people like pcAngel, who would want everything right immediately, well then, they should not buy Shift.
Thank you very much to everyone, who is contributing to make our devices powerful.
My 2 cents
Ram
I find myself as a long time lurker needing to come out from under my rock and finally comment about this quite stereotypical noob troll. From his utterly 733tspeak, caps lock pounding, noob troll bleat we can determine that he most likely is the quintessential internet tough guy that can not afford one of these devices unless he steals it. I am in awe the moron here can find something on the internet other then 2girls1cup and his hand on his snake. That being said, after powering through his 12 year old fresh on a post board rant, I am still lost as to what if anything this troll wants to express other then the " I am entitled to it because I [email protected]#$ing say so" post of the ignorant. That being said I am curious, junior, whether your 12 year old idiot ass, understands what goes into reverse engineering a device ROM and then building a custom built ROM? Please let us know so we can add you to the project.
Jackass...
Well..........
I agree with saiweb, worldpcdude and aquasesh....
What if anything has pcangel contributed? You show your complete ignorance of the device by basically missing the point of XDA altogether...
The likes of pof / thaihugo / cmonex etc that have made invaluable progress for us all in regards to the shift's functionality should be respected and appreciated...
Yes many of us would like things faster but if you can't add to the collective through your own abilities at least have the common courtesy of not showing you complete lack of intelligence by your ill advised, impolite initial post...
If you have nothing constructive to say, spare US ALL (yes I shouted that) your indignant rant and just say NOTHING AT ALL...
Any basic research into the shift would have provided you an understanding of what it would do and where it's shortcomings were and many of us bought a shift (I was one of the first in the UK to have one) with this acceptance...
XDA has shown over many years they are masters at making a device do what it was never designed to / intended to do, and we have all been the better for it.... We need more people like the XDA developers and LESS PEOPLE LIKE YOU...
Blitzspear
Men of Little Faith.......
Someone please inform this fellow that XDA Developers is not a government department. Deep down I have a feeling that the guy never meant what was stated. My gut feeling is that his is bad case of a stale joke. So let us all laugh off the joke and live happily ever after......
I hate cowards. The fellow started this thread and vanished. If he/she/it is serious about the nasty comments why not post a response in defence of his position. He is the type that start bar brawls and quietly slip out while jaws are being broken.
Most of us bought our Shifts with full knowledge of its limitations. We all know the hardware is fantastic but the problem is the supplied software. Its like hTC merely built for us a very nice house but supplied crap furniture. And someone is working on the best formula to get us the perfect furniture for our beautiful house. Can anybody in their right mind start abusing the person who is working on a formula to supply the furniture for free??????
I bet this guy has never made similar rants against hTC. Yet he has the audacity to insult the guys who are working to make the Shift the device that we all yearn for. Methinks the fellow should be bumped off the forum!
Men of little faith!!!!
PlayStation said:
Someone please inform this fellow that XDA Developers is not a government department. Deep down I have a feeling that the guy never meant what was stated. My gut feeling is that his is bad case of a stale joke. So let us all laugh off the joke and live happily ever after......
I hate cowards. The fellow started this thread and vanished. If he/she/it is serious about the nasty comments why not post a response in defence of his position. He is the type that start bar brawls and quietly slip out while jaws are being broken.
Most of us bought our Shifts with full knowledge of its limitations. We all know the hardware is fantastic but the problem is the supplied software. Its like hTC merely built for us a very nice house but supplied crap furniture. And someone is working on the best formula to get us the perfect furniture for our beautiful house. Can anybody in their right mind start abusing the person who is working on a formula to supply the furniture for free??????
I bet this guy has never made similar rants against hTC. Yet he has the audacity to insult the guys who are working to make the Shift the device that we all yearn for. Methinks the fellow should be bumped off the forum!
Men of little faith!!!!
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Just one word for you
THANK YOU *10000000000000
NB: ALSO CAPS ON
pcangel said:
Just one word for you
THANK YOU *10000000000000
NB: ALSO CAPS ON
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That's two words.... if not more.
...the forum done a lot for me.
My Shift changed from useless to useful.
OK, the development is a bit slow, but there are people who do their work on a free base.
Many thanks to them!!!!
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Just one word for you
THANK YOU *10000000000000
NB: ALSO CAPS ON
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LMAO
dude, evidently you didn't read the post, or you might have noticed that he called you for what you are... A Troll.
well....... again..........
Whilst it never gets old insulting a 'troll' could a mod lock this thread or even delete it please.
Blitz
Hey, i'm an iPAQ 210/2xx owner. Flar suggested i throw this thread over here for you geniuses.
There's lots of interest in a new ROM for the 210 since it has VERY capable hardware (pxa 310, 128RAM, 256ROM) but very bad firmware. Unit sucks, could become great: it's like a handicap driving a Ferrari... a bad idea. I already have a throw-together kitchen from a certain xda member, looking for people with know-how to use it. I'm NOT one of those people.
This thing comes with 6.0 Classic, and it is soooo slow. The consensus is that either 6.1 or 6.5 needs to be ported onto this, along with some reg tinkering too... but that will come after porting has occurred i assume.
I/we really need the help, and although no there's real promise of money (since when is cooking a paid job?), there would be TONS of donations for a fast and stable rom. I can almost guarantee that part. I'd dish a handsome amount myself. HP has given up support in first 6 months of release, so new ROMs are the only hope for the machine.
Anyways, i'm looking for people to help out. I/we would love to employ your skills; it will likely be the fellow iPAQ users here that can assist. I can update you or hook you up with the smarter 210/2xx users so you can get the full scoop. Please PM me on xda, and one of the "home bases" for the device is Brighthand.com's iPAQ 210 forum. Look forward to ANY BIT OF HELP you people can offer. This really requires lots of knowhow since (apparently) deliberate attempts have been made in the design to prevent flashing easily. Thanks for considering the task! And if you want to help, make sure you have a paypal account.
Dave
P.S. There are a few people (like me) who are willing to sacrifice their devices if needed. Peace.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387232&page=8
Sorry to disappoint, but that xda member is actually a Brighthand member who has been steadily trying to figure out the not-so-successful flashing portion of the project. Plus he doesn't have a kitchen except the throw-together one. It is made up of a 6828 kitchen but needs some retrofitting for VGA. So nope, unfortunately, not much progress.
If you can help, let me know, and i'll brief you on the deal. Peace!
Bump. Like 100 ppl have checked this thread, but no help. Give me anything, dudes. We really need some devs here.
Bump!!!! Guys i don't want to be bugging anyone, but there are BOTH htc AND hp devs on here. We need some propagation on this mission. Thx again.
So, mods, this project has been figured out. The ipaq 210 now has 6.1 and 6.5 which can be flashed, and this can be found on the 210 forum at Brighthand.com. Great work being done over there, and some amateur chefs with a lot of patience. possibly one guy from xda helping too i think.
So do what you wish to this thread. Thank you.
and just a note...
all too often do i get the impression that the big-wig xda chefs are sitting on some enormous throne, and we "petty" users must bow down to your acquired divinity. It's annoying. very annoying. after 250 hits on this thread, only one guy took the time to give me the link to an already dead-end thread, and that's it. but i'm sure you guys are busy installing lasers on your Magic's and your Vogue's, or developing uber-important apps like a nudy-background. wow. amazing. bunch o geniuses.
I would have at least appreciated this chain of events:
Randomxdaperson: PM to friend who remotely knows anything about ipaq, asks if able to help random person.
...(total of 3 mins, fifty key strokes, two krispy kremes).
FriendOfxdaperson: responds to PM, says either yes can help or no but maybe this guy/gal can help instead... (total 1 min, twenty key strokes, can of mom's pepsi in fridge).
Randomxdaperson: sends PM to new lead, so copy and paste old message to new lead... (30 sec, four buttons, two mouse clicks, two bowls of dad's Fruit Loops).
Guywhocanpossiblyhelp: replies to PM saying can't help, and no ideas, says sorry and good luck... (40 sec, forty strokes, wiping face in little brother's sock from ravioli).
Randomxdaperson: comes to this thread, says "sorry i tried but no luck. good luck. i care about more than just myself".
Obviously very difficult to perform. but alas, nothing precipitates. thanks guys. and seriously, i'm sure i'll hear more comments about how HP sucks and how i'm a newb or something, which is more effort than the total that had been previously put forth on this topic.
I'm kind of ashamed of this site. people are becoming increasingly correct when they joke about the illegitimacy, rudeness, and selfishness of this site. too bad, because this site is supposed to be a good community. Flar and the mods work hard, and the lower-level guys are always willing to TRY and give help, but most of the bigger guys are trying to help each other ONLY. the progress of the ENTIRE site depends on global help.
My bitterness is from a lack of response in MANY people's topics, not just my own. I've only made one thread. but i read lots. and the devs hardly care about anything outside of binary. so why don't you 01101010 01110101 01101101 01110000 00100000 01101111 01100110 01100110 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100010 01110010 01101001 01100100 01100111 01100101. grrrrrr. whatever, i suppose. maybe people need to change their attitudes. or maybe i've been seriously mistaken and this site is filled with wonderful devs who care. just my experience.
Frustrated,
Dave
Stop Crying and Help
I am assuming you own a 210. LOL. I doubt the virtual Tantrum you just through is going to attract many chefs to help you. (You, which also includes the rest of us who have been waiting for an upgrade to our device) I would recommend that you login over at Brighthand and test one of there ROMS, they are working on.
Another thing everyone can do is DONATE. One of the guys working on this project doesnt even own a 210. (I dont know if that is by choice or not) One thing I do know, donating to a developer is about the only way of showing sincere appreciation and respect for their time, talent and hard work they put into these projects, so people like myself(not so gifted and talented!) are able to use their brilliant creations. But I am sure you have already donated. Here are sone screenshots of 6.5.
Sunday
I can't resist!!
davethebossman said:
So, mods, this project has been figured out. The ipaq 210 now has 6.1 and 6.5 which can be flashed, and this can be found on the 210 forum at Brighthand.com. Great work being done over there, and some amateur chefs with a lot of patience. possibly one guy from xda helping too i think.
So do what you wish to this thread. Thank you.
and just a note...
all too often do i get the impression that the big-wig xda chefs are sitting on some enormous throne, and we "petty" users must bow down to your acquired divinity. It's annoying. very annoying. after 250 hits on this thread, only one guy took the time to give me the link to an already dead-end thread, and that's it. but i'm sure you guys are busy installing lasers on your Magic's and your Vogue's, or developing uber-important apps like a nudy-background. wow. amazing. bunch o geniuses.
I would have at least appreciated this chain of events:
Randomxdaperson: PM to friend who remotely knows anything about ipaq, asks if able to help random person.
...(total of 3 mins, fifty key strokes, two krispy kremes).
FriendOfxdaperson: responds to PM, says either yes can help or no but maybe this guy/gal can help instead... (total 1 min, twenty key strokes, can of mom's pepsi in fridge).
Randomxdaperson: sends PM to new lead, so copy and paste old message to new lead... (30 sec, four buttons, two mouse clicks, two bowls of dad's Fruit Loops).
Guywhocanpossiblyhelp: replies to PM saying can't help, and no ideas, says sorry and good luck... (40 sec, forty strokes, wiping face in little brother's sock from ravioli).
Randomxdaperson: comes to this thread, says "sorry i tried but no luck. good luck. i care about more than just myself".
Obviously very difficult to perform. but alas, nothing precipitates. thanks guys. and seriously, i'm sure i'll hear more comments about how HP sucks and how i'm a newb or something, which is more effort than the total that had been previously put forth on this topic.
I'm kind of ashamed of this site. people are becoming increasingly correct when they joke about the illegitimacy, rudeness, and selfishness of this site. too bad, because this site is supposed to be a good community. Flar and the mods work hard, and the lower-level guys are always willing to TRY and give help, but most of the bigger guys are trying to help each other ONLY. the progress of the ENTIRE site depends on global help.
My bitterness is from a lack of response in MANY people's topics, not just my own. I've only made one thread. but i read lots. and the devs hardly care about anything outside of binary. so why don't you 01101010 01110101 01101101 01110000 00100000 01101111 01100110 01100110 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100010 01110010 01101001 01100100 01100111 01100101. grrrrrr. whatever, i suppose. maybe people need to change their attitudes. or maybe i've been seriously mistaken and this site is filled with wonderful devs who care. just my experience.
Frustrated,
Dave
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So, Frustrated Dave, you think "maybe people need to change their attitudes. or maybe i've been seriously mistaken and this site is filled with wonderful devs who care. just my experience."-Frustrated,Dave?????????
Are you kidding me? Did you reread your post? It is MY experiece that this sight IS filed with with wonderful devs who care, and maybe YOU need to change YOUR attitude.
I really hope you are right. And because of people like globalbus and elektrownik over on BH forums, we've got some great new ROMs for the 210. globalbus doesn't even own a 210 and he still gave us a ton of awesome ROMs, and elektrownik basically had to learn cooking and modding from scratch. I was constantly gleaning xda in an effort to collect helpers and teachers for them (i know i don't have the skills to help them so i tried to find ones who did) but only one person (ariey) from xda ended up helping.
So that's what i mean. I'm upset because i feel bad for the time and effort that BH members spent learning from ground zero, and that time length could've been drastically reduced if more people here expressed the slightest interest in assisting them. I don't feel wronged for my own sake; i'm not that petty, even thought someone might want to suggest otherwise. So as i say, i hope you're right.
Dave
Just wanted to say how much I love these forums and how great everyone is with helping out and contributing. My last three phones have all been wonderful experiences due in no small part to the work of everyone on these forums. You guys all deserve a pat on the back.
MaximReapage said:
Just wanted to say how much I love these forums and how great everyone is with helping out and contributing. My last three phones have all been wonderful experiences due in no small part to the work of everyone on these forums. You guys all deserve a pat on the back.
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Thanks brotha'
Your a part of the great community here as well so make sure to pat yourself on the back as well.
Even tho I wont meet you guys irl I really do appreciate all the insight everyone brings. Even if I disagree with somebody I still appreciate them even bringing an idea I didn't have before to my head. Its also amazing to have such a helpful community that will help each other out just for the good of the group (like a wolfpack). I continuously make people on here my contacts just so I can read up on their posts and what they had to say since I respect their opinions so much.
There is strength in numbers guys, and this group is one of the strongest out there.
Since I haven't made one of these threads in awhile either I have to say thank you guys for being a great group that I can rely upon when need be and a great source of insight
I'd also like to say thanks to all the people who've answered my silly nooby questions since Febuary. And also big thanks to developers like Enomther.
I also benefited a lot from the xds-developers gang. Thanks a lot !
It started with a HTC Diamond running Windows Mobile. I've flashed roms, modified the phone and downloaded a lot of software.
Now that I have a N1 coming up in a few days, I'm busy learning about Android and understanding the N1 to make the most of it. On xda-developers of course !
THANKS - THANKS
I too would like to say a big THANK YOU ALL!!!
If I win the lottery I'm going to build a huge developer center and get every dev on overtime... Well compensated of course lol
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Hello guys! I would like to leave a message of thank you to every each one of you present at this forum. I must say we are a great community. I've learned on 4 months more than what I would learn at university about programing C, Java, Linux and many other tools available to developers. Before going on vacation, I thought of leaving this thanks because it leaves me quite happy how people are amazing.
For instance, when i started my ROM project at March , i had a computer where took me 6 hours to compile a ROM. Imagine the patient to sort bugs, build problems and many other things I couldn't even move myself to improve further since i was learning and solving a small build error, which took exactly 1-2 hours by each try to see if worked, or when I had to restart the compilation, since i had to clean the build and start all over again. There were some kind people which donated, and I invested that money on machine parts to continue improving the rom and to deliver better results. But the truth was that, I had a very old computer, and concluded quickly that I had to buy a new machine. Since I had no money for it, I thought on developing apps until I was able to buy one. By luck, there was a member which was kind enought to share a server, and since then it took me around 1 hour and 30 min to make a complete compilation here i shared with this community a mix of commits from many developers, where i try to bring an improved and better ROM.
I've learned quite alot, as also had small miss understandings with some people. But thats part of life right? Even so, I think i can call easily call them "friends" since we've been together in this forum.
I want to thank for all patient and wonderfull support done by @savoca , because if wasn't him I would problably taken much longer. He is so amazing that he took around 2-3 hours per day of his time to help. I'm gratefull about it. He is an amazing developer. Very patient and a great friend.
I also went in panic many times over building a ROM. And @katinatez was there to help. He was always ready to do it quickly
There are also other developers such as: @Sultanxda @Lord Boeffla @ZaneZam @ak @DerRomtester @Setting.Out @dorimanx and all of those people which supported and donated for this. Thanks to you, I learned really alot, but still am a novice.
Just wanted to leave this message to you guys of thanks, because It's really great to know people which share their knowledge for free. Is not for everyone that. You guys proven on this forum, and on your life that you are all sucessfull in what you do, and i am really proud to know you all.
Cheers have a great day and wonderfull summer!
Best regards,
Jorge
jgcaap said:
Hello guys! I would like to leave a message of thank you to every each one of you present at this forum. I must say we are a great community. I've learned on 4 months more than what I would learn at university about programing C, Java, Linux and many other tools available to developers. Before going on vacation, I thought of leaving this thanks because it leaves me quite happy how people are amazing.
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Thank you!
We're lucky to have people like you give up their time (money, whatever else!) to improve the user experience, further development and increase the enjoyment of our device.
Enjoy your vacation!
Wow Jorge, this is amazingly inspiringly! If only you could teach me hahha, anyway have a great vacation and hope to see you back here soon bro!
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That kind words makes XDA even greater. Enjoy your vacation!!
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