Hidden engeneering mode view - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General

regedit -goto
hklm/software/htc/engineermode/
and change buitinengineermode dword to 1
save
goto dial pad and enter: *#*#364#*#*
regards
Seth

I found that entry a few days ago. I tried it, but nothing happens.
What do you can see/do in engeneering mode?

Just tried it. It opened a tabbed dialog that shows all the info the phone is getting from the cellular network.
Tower number, GPRS settings and a lot of stuff I know nothing about. Nice diagnostic tool.
P.S.
funnysurf, did you dial the number correctly? For me it opened the second I entered the last *. (on Jamin, ROM 2.13.9.123)

It works... Latest Dopod ROM.

HTC Engineering Mode
I've been hunting for a way to see this info. I design cellular networks and this stuff is my second language. However, I don't see anything in any fields of GSM Test Mode. They start with "N/A" then immediately go blank. I've done the registry setting but no change. When I do the '*#'-thing, I get nada. Got any clues?
FYI- I found a program called NiceTrack that shows only some of this info, so I know it's in there somewhere, but I need to see more.

jott2me, post your ROM version. On the Dopod's 2.15 it works.

GSM Test Mode
The key word is “built in” If you have a little program GSM TestMode.exe in your windows directory, this registry tweak makes this program visible and executable. Plus don’t forget to soft reset your device in order for registry modification to take effect.
By the way, if you use this data a lot, you can make a shortcut to this utility as to any executable. No need to dial the *# a hundred times. Or just add it to your speed dial…

You guys sure respond fast! Wow! And thanks!
JWalker, here's my info:
ROM version: 1.8.10.2 WWE
ROM date: 12/10/05
Radio version: 01.09.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.20
ExtROM version: 1.8.10.104
(I've only had this about a month so I'm leary of changing ROM versions.)
aleksandr,
I'm running Spb's Today screen (it's nice) and I've got an icon that puts me right into GSMTestMode.exe when the reg tweak is set to 1. I've reset several times still no luck seeing info. I made a contact with the '*#' stuff but when I dial it, I get, "The number you have dialed..." message.
Am I missing something?
Thanks for your help.

GSM menu
How did you reset your device, programmatic soft reset or with your stylus? Soft reset with stylus will erase registry modifications without saving them. Sorry, don't mean to use "dummy" talk, just want to make sure all proper steps are followed to eliminate all possible reasons in order to find the solution. Another reason for this issue could be in rom, but wait for J. Walker to respond. I'm in the office right now and don't have emulators here to experiment with your rom version. In the mean time make sure you’ve made all necessary registry changes in right registry entries, and soft reset using program, something like Nice start or shut down XP or SPB Pocket Plus reset function.

I've been using TRE to edit the registry then resetting it using the stylus and the hole on the right side. Every reg change I've made shows up after a reset as changed. I don't know of another way to soft reset it. Even when I've changed it back to 0 to try using JUST the GSM Test Mode.exe, it won't work. That's proof that the registry does see the changes (I think).
(... and I'm the newbie here so "dummy" talk is A-Okey doke w/ me.)

Guess, it is a good idea to change to 2.x ROM. The only thing I know that it works fine with my original S200 with Dopod's 2.15.13.27 ROM. It much morу stable and fast, so you will got the better feeling

Hi,
on Vodafone ROM 2.15.3.26 GER it does not work. I create an Link to \Windows\GSMTestMode.exe and do it that way

I tried creating the link to GSMTest but that still didn't work. I think I'm going to have to change ROMs. I'm very reluctant because I don't know where or how to get and install one. I've seen that this site is full of talk about ROM upgrades, but I haven't seen one that tells me how to do it.
The thing is that what I'm really really after is not just the GSMTest screen so it may or may not even involve a new ROM. What I really want is to learn where the info is hiding and how to display it and make some of it usable in graphical format (something like "NiceTrack" does but with all the info not just a couple fields). It's more of a programming thing. So if anyone knows where this info is stashed and how to read it, I'd go that direction. I thought that GSMTest would be a quick & easy step toward what I'm after.

any change someone could add the gsm test program. I did found the engineering key in the registry, but no program in the windows directory and entering the code on the phonedial pad didn't work as well.
i'm running tuma 1.3 wm5 rom on a qtec 9090

If you want a good guide to changing roms see this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=52564&highlight=

sethxp said:
regedit -goto
hklm/software/htc/engineermode/
and change buitinengineermode dword to 1
save
goto dial pad and enter: *#*#364#*#*
regards
Seth
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I'm sorry, but I have to ask this question. After a year or so of using these amazing little hacks I've always wondered one thing. . . How in the HELL do you folks figure out these things exist?!

I'm sorry, but I have to ask this question. After a year or so of using these amazing little hacks I've always wondered one thing. . . How in the HELL do you folks figure out these things exist?!
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My thoughts exactly... I discovered this site 2 years ago when I had the Xda2 and I'm still amazed at the information that I can dig up here. Guess some of us have the privelege of playing with our gadgets more than others...

i had to go into the props of the file and change it from hide. i also had to use resco and searched for the file name and changed it there. from there i copied the file and choose poaste shortcut to the windows\start menu\programs

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1.06 ROM, GPRS not always-ON

Has anyone come up with a fix so that the GPRS is back to being always on as it was in the original 1.03 ROM? I have read some posts on this on other sites, but I have not found anything here. I assume that I have everything set properly, but the GPRS has to be started every time now.
In general I do not feel that the 1.06 ROM upgrade did much of anything to enhance my device, and quite frankly I wish I was back to 1.03, however, I have heard that a new ROM upgrade will soon be released and I bet that one or I hope that one will provide some real value and fix things.
I've posted this in another thread, here's the quote:
Here's a solution I've done to my XDA II with T-Mobile GPRS problem. I don't know who came up with this solution, but thanks to my friend who suggested this at PDAMobiz.com.
1. After a hardreset and completing the initial screen alignment, interrupt the auto-installation process by softreset your XDA II (you have 3 seconds before the files in Extended_ROM will automatically install).
2. Make your Extended_ROM viewable, whether by using the Extended ROM Viewer from http://www.ppcw.net or Extended ROM Switcher (sorry I forgot the link).
3. Now, install each cab files, except TMD_AP_NL.sa.CAB. In fact, I also disregarded, Caller ID, and some other TMD stuff.
As a result, the GPRS is now always-on as it should be.
Cheers,
Thank you for responding to this post. I had to wait quite awhile.
Your #3. states to install the cab files and disregard the TMD files. Did you delete these files or just not open them? What are these TMD Files for?
I assume that I cannot, at this point and without a hard reset, just delete the TMD Files that are viewable in my Extended Rom. Is this a correct assumption or could I accomplish the same goal by just deleting those files?
Thank You
gratefuled said:
Thank you for responding to this post. I had to wait quite awhile.
Your #3. states to install the cab files and disregard the TMD files. Did you delete these files or just not open them? What are these TMD Files for?
I assume that I cannot, at this point and without a hard reset, just delete the TMD Files that are viewable in my Extended Rom. Is this a correct assumption or could I accomplish the same goal by just deleting those files?
Thank You
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Yes you need to delete does file from Extended_ROM and hard reset it.
Or hard reset, quickly soft reset after you finish the screen calibration, run the extended_rom viewer and manually open/run each of the cab files except the mention cab. ( basically follow exactly what jopard said ).
I read also somewhere in this forum that someone did a differrence search on the registry between GPRS always on and GPRS off when idle. With this method you can change the setting without hard reset.
Hi, the mentioned cab installs the following registry key (among others):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
"SuspendResume"=hex(7):\
69,6e,74,65,72,6e,65,74,00,00,00,00
I guess it must be the SuspendResume setting. Can you post your setting without applying the cab file?
softworkz said:
Hi, the mentioned cab installs the following registry key (among others):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"CacheTime"=dword:0000003c
"SuspendResume"=hex(7):\
69,6e,74,65,72,6e,65,74,00,00,00,00
I guess it must be the SuspendResume setting. Can you post your setting without applying the cab file?
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This is my setting running my own cook 1.60.06 skiping that file:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"SuspendResume"=hex(7):7E,00,47,00,50,00,52,00,53,00,21,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
"CacheTime"=dword:00000258
And yes my GPRS is always on.
Hm, I'll try that, but I had another problem:
When I was always GPRS-connected my GSM-connection was always lost
after 12-24h. The device showed that it is connected but I could not dial out and I could not be called.
Now since I am not "always on" anymore I do not have this problem anymore.
Did you experience something similar?
softworkz said:
Hm, I'll try that, but I had another problem:
When I was always GPRS-connected my GSM-connection was always lost
after 12-24h. The device showed that it is connected but I could not dial out and I could not be called.
Now since I am not "always on" anymore I do not have this problem anymore.
Did you experience something similar?
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Mine work fine I can call, received phone/sms while npop and aim is running in the background.
is there
Is there a way to do this without hardrestting? It just took me two hours to load all the program into XDA. Can I just hack the reg?
thanks
my rom
My rom does not even have this cab in the ext file. Can I hack it in the reg?
I have XDA II 1.50WWE ROM
thanks
softworkz said:
Hm, I'll try that, but I had another problem:
When I was always GPRS-connected my GSM-connection was always lost
after 12-24h. The device showed that it is connected but I could not dial out and I could not be called.
Now since I am not "always on" anymore I do not have this problem anymore.
Did you experience something similar?
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I think you will find that many carriers have a "timeout" after several hours of non use.
Dave
SuspendResume
What does this look like in the registry:
This is my setting running my own cook 1.60.06 skiping that file:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings]
"SuspendResume"=hex(7):7E,00,47,00,50,00,52,00,53,00,21,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
I have PHM Registry Editor, and entering the entire string does not look like a meaningful option.
Is it a REG_DWORD with a base of HEX ?
Regards
Michael
I use resco registry editor you can just import in that registry.
I found another post regarding this issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=26866
I'm afraid I do not understand how this thread has evolved.
I understand the posts that speak to the hard reset and softreset within 3 seconds to keep the device ROM applications from loading. From there to install fix for viewing extended ROM files and then load everything except TMD, and perhaps some of the T-Mobile apps you do not want. Although the response says a specific TMD file and some other TMD-no specifics, all or some?
The balance of the thread seems to speak to radio settings.
Is it being said that you can change some settings on the radio stack and get the GPRS always on? If so how do you do this in reasonably simple terms?
Ed
Nonintrusive Keep-Alive
The intrusive solutions are enticing to me but they are for "developers". From a user's point of view, I am always worried about doing something and then not being able to restore it to the original state (or having to spend a lot of time to get back) should something go wrong. My bandage solution (unique to my use situation) is to open an ssh or a telnet window and run a shell script which loops to print the current timestamp and then sleeps for 5 seconds. A T-Mobile tier 2 tech guy told me that the disconnection was by design for the benefit of network service providers so that they can save on connection resources.
By the same token, I like the Keep-Alive application solution - I think it is worth my $2.45 (See thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5220). I wonder if the to-come T-Mobile Windows PPC 2003 comes with some sort of control that is equivalent to the Keep-Alive application - in a matter of a month or two, supposedly.

programmatically hard reset a wm5 device

Hi.
Anyone know how to perform a hard reset within a windows mobile 5.0 device?
Tried with SetCleanRebootFlag() and KernelIoControl() but seems like the SetCleanRebootFlag is ignored.
The SetCleanRebootFlag() function was an undocumented feature within 2003 devices, and now it seems like it is gone. There now exist a ExitWindowsEx() function to do soft reset, but I cant seem to find out how to do a hard reset.
Any tips, anyone?
Thanks
Any news on this topic? I really need that functionality too....
if you're in a position to test it, could you try to hard reset with my app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39637&highlight=
If it works, good. If not, whoops
V
Sorry to say that the Hard reset part of you application does not work on WM 5.0 devices. It probably works on WM 2003 if you use SetCleanRebootFlag();
By the way! All the shortcuts in the cab file points to \program files\.... For norwegian users the path is \programfiler\. So I had to move the .exe file to \program files\ to make them work...
t0flus: I'm aware of this shortcut issue. I'll have to make a custom installer. But unfortunately it was the only way the cab manager would let me carry shortcuts with command line parameters.
Thanks for confirming the SetCleanRebootFlag issue. I'll investigate it on WM5. Please drop me a line if you find a good solution. I read some stuff on the msdn blogs a long time ago on this issue.
V
Hi Vj!
Here are some test results that may (or may not) save you some time:
I tried SetCleanRebootFlag(); with both KernelIoControl and ExitWindowsEx(EWX_REBOOT, 0), on several WM5 devices and they all produced soft reset only.
Short googling session reviled this question on several other forums, some (like google groups) had a post from someone claming to be MS official stating that it cannot be done at this point.
Personally I'm not inclined to believe that...
Side note:
I do know that WM5 has a slight registry bug (feature?), where if you reset with the SR button or with KernelIoControl you may loose the last registry changes because they are not saved when you call RegCloseKey but on some regular interval (???).
ExitWindowsEx saves the registry before rebooting.
levenum: have you tried it on the emulator? I'm fairly positive when I wrote VJEschaton that I tried it there and it worked. I wasn't in a position to test on a read device, but that throws up some odd questions.
I'll go into this a bit further as soon as I can. Quite interesting... forced hard reset is important occassionally!
V
Didn't have time to mess around with the emulator, but I remembered this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35046
Could the hard reset been a bug?
It must be a way to do this by code. The ClearStorage.exe does it......So I bet it's another undocumented feature...
t0flus said:
It must be a way to do this by code. The ClearStorage.exe does it......So I bet it's another undocumented feature...
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What if you try to think about this in another way? What if you force a hard reset by loading the app to memory, formatting the storage then doing a soft reset? Technically, it should equal to a hard reset...
Did I read somewhere that the programmer for Pocket Hack Master had it doing a hard reset for a bit of time if the wrong registration key was entered?
Does anyone know him. He might have the answer. Although, it may have been pre WM5.
dilligaf said:
Did I read somewhere that the programmer for Pocket Hack Master had it doing a hard reset for a bit of time if the wrong registration key was entered?
Does anyone know him. He might have the answer. Although, it may have been pre WM5.
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it was definatelly pre-WM5, it think it was in late 2004...
Guys, can you test the new VJEschaton v0.12 for WM5 hard reset?
Thanks!
V
Hi Vj!
Tried your program on a couple devices (iPaq 1950, 2490, don't have a phone) but got nothing but soft resets. Nice app though.
t0flus: could you upload the ClearStorage.exe please. I could take a closer look at it if I get some spare time. If we get lucky it may reveal a call to some hidden API.
Ofcourse! Here it is!
The zip file includes a MUI file. Files with that extension is not allowed here, so I had to zip it.
vijay555: Where can I download VJEschaton v0.12? Seems to me that your web site only contains v0.11?
t0flus: if you download the cab on my website, is it still giving v0.11? Poo. I tell you, CE Cab Manager is going to kill me one day (a bad workman...)
I may not have saved v0.12 properly into the cab. I'll try to upload it again, maybe lunchtime GMT today.
V
Thanks for the file t0flus!
Files with MUI extension are localized resources (like all the menus in your local language). They have the same name as the file who's resources they replace + language code (in hex) + .mui
Vj: when I downloaded VJEschaton at about 8 am (GMT) its dialog caption read v0.12,
that’s what I tested. Was there a mix up with the cab or did you just forget to update the version listing on the site?
levenum: ah, it was v0.12 you wanted.
v0.12 should hard reset an HTC Universal. I don't think it'll hardreset any other non-HTC WM5 phone (although I can't even be sure it'll work on a Wizard, I'd be grateful for someone to test it there as well)
I don't think so far there's a generic WM5 hard reset, we have to figure out the KernelIOControl - I'll make some enquiries. But I'd be grateful if someone could download v0.12 and test it on a Uni & Wiz'r.
V
PS I don't always update my website. I'm more active on here then there! v0.12 was finished late at night. I'll update the info now.

How Do I Install Reg Files Via a Cab??

Hello. I’m currently trying to cook my own extended rom and would like it to install some registry values from hard reset.
Is it possible to create a .cab that will insert these values??
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Use cabmaker or wincab or whatever it's called and just import your .reg directly. It'll make it into a cab. Can't remember what the program is called, but everyone uses it... will check it out later at home if you can't find it.
V
Cheers mate i found WinCE Cab Manager. Time To Get Cooking!
That's the one! Jeez, I think I've reached the point at which my brain can no longer be filled with new info. Seems like stuff has started flowing out of my exhaust port! The charging cable keeps falling out as well
V
Hiya - has anyone managed to set the owner info like this? I've tried a couple of different ways of getting it into cabs so that it will be set automatically on a hard reset but have not managed to make it work...
I can set other things, but not owner info, device name and start menu items, which is really starting to bug me! Can anyone help?

New to XDA EXEC

Hello one and all.
I have been looking at this forum for about 1 week and i'm still none the wiser. This may be because I have no idea what im doing and I am a little worried about making rom changes as I have no experinace of this.
I have a 02 exec. Which i am happy with but its a bit slower than I thought it would be. The phone seams to mess around when answering.
I have booted it up as normal on the basic setting.
A few questions that I have :-
What is the best setting to boot up on basic or corperate with the code ?
What reg changes are critical to boost performance ?
Any Software that I should get for the Xda ?
VGA settings do I need to change them ? What effect does it have.
Any advise would be good. If it could be given in a format my 2 year old could understand that would be good for me.
Thank you in advance
You'll find a wealth of information on each of your questions by browsing & searching the posts already on this forum.
thanks moandal that's why I posted.
1 post says basic setup another say corporate. 1 post says hack this that and the other. another says not to.
I'm new to pocket pc.
these forums do not make it clear what is best.
example radio version 1.06 or 1.08 at least 3 posts on here saying each one is better than the other. I have no idea.
all I was asking for is some guidance as to which set up has worked best for people.
@CRJL you've one up on me mate - I did not even know this thing had two modes!!!
BTW, why is that? Someone mentioned somewhere a corporate password - how to enter this & why would I want it.
BTW CRJL, I agree with you, these little devices are very confusing, espcially because the front end software (WM5) is soooooooo labourious!
Andy
when you hard reset the thing. after all the rom stuff loads up it gives you the choice of basic set up or corporate. it selects basic automatically after 20secs.
if you tell it corporate then you have to put the code 0506 in. this the uninstalls some stuff off the exec. you loose mms and all the gprs an 3g settings for conecting to the net. (i don't know what else it does) some of the people in the forums say it makes the exec faster. I could not really notice any difference.
you loose a few applications as well.
until I learn more I'm staying in basic.
I find these forums are for more advanced users so the simple questions tend to get missed. (im talking abot my first post) still not had a reply answering my questions
CRJL said:
What is the best setting to boot up on basic or corperate with the code ?
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for this you should first make a hard reset (carefull, with hard reset you will loose all data!) by pressing both app buttons and reset at the same time.
When it starts up, after the installation countdown shows up you should make a reset to stop the automatic setup.
Now you have a machine, which is only basic setup. See how you like the things in there.
After you now enough about this, you can make same hard reset again and start the corporate setup. Then see, how you like this setup.
After this do same with basic setup.
In total you have then an idea, what you can have with the 3 different setups.
Now you can decide, which of the 3 setups you want to start with. After this, you should read the posts about Extended Rom, how to unlock it, which programs are in there etc. Then you get an idea for example how to install some software in the basic setup.
Also, you can add some programs from other Roms. For example I have an MDA Pro and I added the I-Mate Backgammon game to my setup.
Try out and see what customizations you want and need, which you do not want.
CRJL said:
What reg changes are critical to boost performance ?
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Basically, this does not really make difference. Forget about reg changes. Performance depends on running programs and setup - see above.
As far as I know, o2 installs some app in the basic setup, which makes the device slow. As I never tried o2 rom, I do not know, if this is true.
CRJL said:
Any Software that I should get for the Xda ?
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read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31697
here also I recommend to try out the software and just keep the ones you like.
In total I would recommend you to create a directory on your PC where you put all the setup and cab files, which you want to have in your final setup. After trying out all, make a hard reset again and install the files from this directory. This prevents any junks to be left behind from your previous tries.
CRJL said:
VGA settings do I need to change them ? What effect does it have.
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I think, you get more problems than it helps. Some programs appear too small on the screen. And when you make a Romupdate this does not work anymore.
I recommend not to install any VGA Patches. Instead just set the text size to more small and search in this forum for some registry hacks to change system font etc. and see if you like it, when the font is more small (this is good for Opera or PIE as you can view complete page!)
Nice reply, thanks mate!
erm
yes
ahem
erm
what are the ><ahem, ahem>< "app buttons"
Andy (thicky wicky Blacky wacky Adder)
thank you. I will give the 3 setups a go. I did read that if you soft reset before the counter that video calling does not work.
will give it a go and see what happens I'm sure there will be a cab file on here to sort it out.
anyone wishing to add any pearls of wisdom fee free. I'm learning more and more all the time.
app buttons: the buttons on the keyboard, which have changing functions. these functions are shown at the bottom of the screen. These buttons can be found to the right and left of the red and green call buttons on the keyboard.
about video calling: yes, this feature is installed after you switch on first your device. it is activated with one cab file. If you can find out which cab file this is, you can install it manually in the basic setup.

Brand new O2miniS: how to tweak to get max performance?!

Dear all,
I'm new here, I've had a good look through the forum, but I feel a lot of the information is a little over my head. I was hoping for some advice for my new MiniS out of the box:
Regarding setting up my device, are there any programs I should or shouldn't install? Or anything I should uninstall immediately?
Am I better off with the O2 ROM, or is there another I should flash my device with?
Are there any particularly good pieces of software that you could recommend?
Thank-you very much for your help,
s_h_a_h_i_d
look at htc magician forumpart (topics)
look at htc magician forumpart (topics)
Surely since the XDA Mini S is an HTC Wizard, not a Magician, he'd be better off looking at the Wizard forum?
o2 mini is a magician init
Yes, but the thread title refers to an O2 Mini S.....
He is refering to MiniS mate.
HA HA, Now that the squabbles are over, , I'd like to add my bit.
The best thing anyone can do first off with the MINI S is toss that o2 customised crap right off.
I am assuming you have'nt put too much on it yet
Press the soft reset button. (Under the IR port)
As you let go of that reset button, make sure you are pressing both the comm manager button, AND the voice buttons. Thats the top left side and upper right side buttons.
This is called a hard reset and WILL ERASE EVERYTHING prom the phones memory.
Do the screen calibration and cut/paste bit.
When it say's "Tap the screen to start using your device", be ready to press the soft reset again.
This is because when you tap the screen, a customisation box will appear.
PRESS THE RESET BUTTON, when you see this box.
The phone reboots and hey presto, proper PDA, not o2's idea of one.
Hope this helps.
Just to add to the above, there is a thread on here regarding decent software for the PDA.
Have a look through the thread list and you'll see it.
I would recommend Resco as a decent file manager with some excellent features. Be careful with some of these tools if you are not sure what you are doing.
Other than that, have fun.
Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
Horrorwood said:
Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
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LOL, oops, sorry forgot about that bit!!! :?
Hi Jerry-S and everyone.
I've just got a T-Mobile MDA Vario, the Wizard version of T-Mobile.
Would you recommend me doing the same hard reset so that I can get rid of T-Mobile settings?
My Device Information shows:
ROM version: 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM date: 11/15/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM version: 1.6.2.105
Can I update to a newer ROM and if yes where can I download it and how can I update ROM, please?
Thanks for your help.
Rgds,
PPB
Hi BUSPBP,
I am a relatively new user myself and won't offer advice on anything I am not sure of.
I have seen ROM updates on here for other networks but as I am on o2 and running my most recent ROM, I can't comment.
Just to be sure you understand though, the updating of a rom that isn't specifically for your unit has many risks. At the end of the day, it's up to you so just put ROM in the search page and have a look at what comes up.
As for removing the Network Provider software, I would assume that the process is the same for them all, as the extra operator features are installed from an extended ROM.
That's to say, the main OS is installed first and then the extra stuff installs afterward.
If you can replace things that you have put on your phone then give it a go, it'll either work or not.
At the end of the day, if you like the extra things and want them back, do another hard reset and let everything install as it wants.
Hope this helps.
Hi Jerry-S,
Thanks for your help. After reading through some threads in this forum I've decided to upgrade my Wizard with the new Qtek ROM. It now works much faster and I don't have any more problem with Wifi connection.
Can you or anybody please advise what does the ExtROM do and if I can exclude it from the device? Any good in doing this?
PPB
If you think of it this way, it's a little easier to understand.
When the device is new or has a hard reset, the following happens.
(If I get this wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know. LOL)
1. The device powers up and a section called the Bootloader starts.
2. As the operating system is not there, it installs it from a ROM.
3. The operating system then runs and you do the stylus calibration
and the date / time settings
4. That is the PDA set up.
5. After that, another ROM is installed, (If you let it), which contains all
the customised software for your particular phone company supplier.
All it means is that the basic Windows OS is running at the same time as the custom software and the Windows functions are accessed by the company customisations that you are presented with.
Because of this, the processor in the PDA is working in effect, twice as hard and it is slower.
As far as I am aware, there is nothing in this custom layer that can't be done directly in the Windows layer.
I would like to upgrade my ROM also as the o2 ROM is one of the oldest versions released, but as I see it, once installed, there is currently no way to downgrade back to the previous version if something goes wrong. Thats the only reason I have'nt done it.
As for removing it completely, I am not sure. I have seen posts on here reffering to that, but I think it is contained somewhere that you couldn't make use of anyway. i.e. Making use of the extra storage space that it takes up.
I know I get a bit long winded, but I have a bit of a job explaining stuff. LOL, sorry.
Hi Jerry-S,
I remember someone told that we could prevent the ExtROM from installation by soft-resetting before that process, but since I don't know yet what are included in the ExtROM and if there's any good in doing so I haven't tried it yet.
I don't know if the O2 device and network settings have anything too special that you could hardly set. In my case though I've got the T-Mobile version I am actually using Orange, so it's perhaps easier for me to come to the decision. And it's worth it for me. No problem with the upgrade, given that I've unlocked CID in advance as someone has warned. And the device is running much faster. That has even halted my intension of doing the overclock, at least for now
PPB
Comments recieved.
I must admit, I kept looking and looking at the ROM file on my computer thinking errrrrrrmmmmm...............
Well I did it, but I didn't notice any real increase in speed, actually it seemed slower to me.
That in mind I though, balls and put the o2 Rom back on.
As for the EXT ROM reatures, I think the main advantage is that the MMS and Mobile web settings are set for you, but those could be found quite easily.

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