Poll: Thumbs on ur gorgeous screen? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

How many of you use your universal's screen with your thumbs???
was just curious
San

Just thumbs, or do podgy fingers count to ?

Shipped with screen protector so no worries

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Shipped with screen protector so no worries
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was a screen protector provided within the box? or did u order that along?
S

My MDA Pro came with a screen protector in the box. Not ordered seperately.
The MDA compact I saw came with one as well

I do worry that using a screen protector will leave my screen looking as if I hadn't removed the sticky protector? As they worth getting? and do they make the display a bit fuzzy?
Cheers, Ash

I use a Brando. Quite expensive but I can't tell it's there. I wouldn't dream of touching the screen without.
I've used an exim but I can't find them on ebay anymore. They were cheap and great on the magician.
Quality is pretty much perfect, unnoticeable. Good enough for me.
But give the choice, 1% possible screen quality loss or £600 worth of PDA scratched, easy choice for me.
Note, you can use my program VJLumos on the Universal to boost screen brightness, if you must...
V

Sounds good, I'll take a look in Google for some pricing
Thanks!

I do almost everything on my Exec using the keyboard exclusively so I hardly ever touch the screen. When I do I tend to use the back of a fingernail to minimise the marks I make.
Had an XDA2 for two years with no case or protector and that survived just fine, so the fact that the Universal can be flipped closed in my pockets means there's even less risk to the screen. I'm hoping it'll be OK.
Incidentally I'm now using hardly any third party software and my Exec is fast, reliable and very easy to use without the stylus. I'm actually thinking I might not bother installing Agenda Fusion even if they release the WM5 version. Dialing a number from contacts with the built-in app couldn't be easier.

SiliconS, you're like a kindred spirit!! hehe
Agree with everything you've said there. Use stylus / back of fingernail if needs must, but otherwise it's keyboard all the way. I also agree with your comment about not needing any other PIM. I'm sure people using diary events more regularly and intensely will need something more, but for the average user there's no need.
I also have very little 3rd party software on it. Runs a dream.
Ant

Anton.Valleyman said:
SiliconS, you're like a kindred spirit!! hehe
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Your post count is slightly higher than mine. Must be all that duplicated duplicated information.

what is the best screen protector for its price and where can you get it from for the UK?
cheers

I never worry about using my fingers (or thumbs) on my screen, although i should get a screen protector as i had one on my xda2i and it seemed to make it better for scibbiling notes with the stylus.

When I bought my EXEC, I made sure I already have the screen protector prior to actually getting the device. I try to use the keyboard in most functions as it is intended to. Only about 5% of the time that I use a separate stylus to navigate on certain applications. I don't use the built-in stylus because mine is really flushed to the holder for some reason and I don't want to scratch or loose my grip while taking it out causing my lovely EXEC to fall off my hands.

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Manufacturing / design defect (clear plastic)

I have my X7500 now for a week, and am a satisfied customer.
Except for one thing: after only a week the clear plastic on my keyboard is misted all over because it is scratching so heavily from useage (when you click the machine into the keyboard, especially in the case, it is almost unavoidable the clear plastic part will be scratched by the machine).
I have sent HTC a message that this is not acceptable for a € 1000 machine, and customer service will come back to me.
You must all have this same issue, can you please comment?
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I have my X7500 now for a week, and am a satisfied customer.
Except for one thing: after only a week the clear plastic on my keyboard is misted all over because it is scratching so heavily from useage (when you click the machine into the keaybord, especially in the case, it is almost unavoidable the clear plastic part will be scratched by the machine).
I have sent HTC a message that this is not acceptable for a € 1000 machine, and customer service will come back to me.
You must all have this same issue, can you please comment?
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Yep - mine is the same. Disappointed that the keyboard doesn't really fit comfortably in the case on the front of the device either (slips to one side or the other..).
the case is indeed not good, but this can be expected, you will need to buy a good case from a third party vendor. Piel Frama will have first samples in about 2 weeks, and I will guarantee you up front they will fit perfectly...
Try using a screen protector on that part ,thats what i'm planning of doing. i will try it and let you guys know how it goes.
I agree with that potential solution, but then HTC will at least need to replace the keyboard with a unscratched one
Doodle said:
I have my X7500 now for a week, and am a satisfied customer.
Except for one thing: after only a week the clear plastic on my keyboard is misted all over because it is scratching so heavily from useage.
You must all have this same issue, can you please comment?
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Slight scratches, I noticed it happening and altered how I handled the device. Also the PDair case I'm using seems to have less of a problem with it. I don't use the keyboard as a cover, of course, because it is in a case (though as in the comment after yours, the supplied case is VERY annoying in the way that the keyboard slips from one side to the other).
What can they do, though? It's partly due to the way people slide the Athena "around" to drop into the keyboard, rather than lifting it. I personally find the whole "viewing window" business utterly redundant - I can't see it in the case, it wastes backlight (whole display illuminated).
Doodle said:
the case is indeed not good, but this can be expected, you will need to buy a good case from a third party vendor. Piel Frama will have first samples in about 2 weeks, and I will guarantee you up front they will fit perfectly...
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Why, are they using a magentic attachment for the keyboard? Because the PDair case sucks after a couple of weeks of light use; the plastic distorts and presses several keys at once.
I want a case with a phrase custom-embossed on it
You could always fit a body shield - protects that part perfectly.
I've had the same problem
I've attached a picture of my keyboard to show the problem. In my case, it appears the scratching is coming from the relatively sharp chrome/metal "frame" around the screen. It's slighly proud (above) of the black plastic surface and when the keyboard is moved over the device it scrapes/gouges the clear plastic. My current plan is to just wait until it's gouged out all the plastic and then polish the clear plastic smooth again. But is sure would be nice to have a more appropriate fix from HTC for such and expensive device.
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..... I personally find the whole "viewing window" business utterly redundant - I can't see it in the case, it wastes backlight (whole display illuminated).
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Yep - I have never taken mine out of the case so to be fair, I can live with the scratches on the clear plastic.
I did however cut off the 'Pen Loops' that are supposed to hold it shut - they got annoying after a couple of days.
apphoen said:
Yep - I have never taken mine out of the case so to be fair, I can live with the scratches on the clear plastic.
I did however cut off the 'Pen Loops' that are supposed to hold it shut - they got annoying after a couple of days.
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Sorry, what bit did you cut off?
jmdrizen said:
Sorry, what bit did you cut off?
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The loops on the case which you are supposed to put the supplied pen through to hold it shut.
Crappy design, they had to go.
apphoen said:
The loops on the case which you are supposed to put the supplied pen through to hold it shut.
Crappy design, they had to go.
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Thank God the DOPOD one doesn't have this pen loop, otherwise i will be cutting it off too.
wu5262 said:
Thank God the DOPOD one doesn't have this pen loop, otherwise i will be cutting it off too.
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Me too, glad i got the dopod now!
I've had my unit 10 days and it looks a lot older, I've used novus 1 and 2 to succesfully clean my plastic to look new again.
i tried the screen protector and it looks great. i will post some pics 2maro.
Does anyone have it on the T-Mobile Ameo or the Dopod?
Or is it just on the black HTC branded ones?
Not had this problem on my T-Mob Ameo and I've had that for over 2 months now...
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Does anyone have it on the T-Mobile Ameo or the Dopod?
Or is it just on the black HTC branded ones?
Not had this problem on my T-Mob Ameo and I've had that for over 2 months now...
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I've had two Ameo's and both are fine, I think it's what was mentioned before, if you lift and clip it's fine, but if you drag it over and click....

[REVIEW] Nushield Screen Protector for Kaiser

My review of the screen protector from Nushield.
(Purchased 2 anti glare, 1 clear model screen protector [comes in a package of 3 only]~ 12 USD)
Install:
-Installation is pretty straightforward but requires some experimenting to get the film in.(Doesn't use a sticky film, but rather a slide in)
-Warning, Make sure that there is no dust under the screen! It is a pain to take out. Trust me i know, i accidently wasted a film by bending it to take it out.
-When you first get the product, u might think that the screen protector they sent you wasn't yours since it looked to big to be fitted in. But actually it fits perfectly once u manage to slide all sides in.
Sensitivity loss:
-On a scale of 10(10 meaning no sensitivity, and 0 meaning no screen protector) it receives a 1.
-However, I did find a HUGE improvement in the touchflo scrolling than without the screen protector.(If you own a kaiser, you should know of the smears and awkwardness of sliding ur thumb to scroll.)
Overall feel and look:
-I actually dont notice it, and it is fingerprint proof.
-Using touchflo feature, the thumb easily slides across with no smears, in other words i dont get that suction feeling.
-And dont forget this is a slide in, so you dont get those bubbles you get from using the provided screen protector you got with the kaiser. The screen protectors surface is really smooth, its like sliding a thumb across a sheet of printing paper)
PS: I have not tried the clear film yet, and dont think i have to. The antiglare film seems to be secure and feels as if it can last years...
My rating for the nushield screen protector is a 9/10.(would be 10/10 if it was easier to install, but then it wouldn't work as good )
As for purchase instructions, go to www.nushield.com and choose the HTC TYTN as for screen specs since it is the same as the kaiser. (I was foolish to try to custom make the screen protector for the kaiser only to realize that its the same size as the tytn!!*got email telling me that *) You can mix and match as i did by putting which films you would want under the comments on checkout.
Thanks for that, i was looking for a good screen protector but i didnt want those sticky ones. This is perfect and from your review, it seems to do a great job too!
Thanks, i just ordered one, but as you said, there was no 'kaiser' ones so i just ordered it for the tytn
I'll always be a fan of PocketPCTechs.com's WriteShields. And during October, you can get 20% off if you use this coupon code: PPCTRC1007
Type it into the Special Instructions field.
Just as an FYI to anyone else considering ordering the NuShield: I decided to try some based on this review, and also decided to get two anti-glare and one clear. I got the following response:
While we are always trying to be accommodating to our customers
special requests, this one has gotten out of hand. Someone must have
posted on a discussion board that we will do this. This request is
now occurring several times daily and represents a significant amount
of time and effort to put these special packages together.
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Guess they don't like doing that very much.
EDIT: and fwiw, they appear to currently be out of anti-glare anyway, so I ended up ordering clear.
Martin Field's OverlayPlus
Best. Screen protector. Ever. Period.
It's non sticky, invisible, and best of all: If you mess up (e.g. bubbles, dust) while putting it on, you can just rinse it off with water, let it dry for a few minutes (or blow dry), and voila: It's clean and sticks again.
I've been using these things on my mobile phones, PDA's, Nintendo DS, etc, for as long as I can remember. Even after 5 years, you can simply take the screen protector off and your screen will look brand new.
Already have a small scratch? Put the screen protector on and it's gone
ekw said:
As for purchase instructions, go to www.nushield.com and choose the HTC TYTN as for screen specs since it is the same as the kaiser. (I was foolish to try to custom make the screen protector for the kaiser only to realize that its the same size as the tytn!!*got email telling me that *) You can mix and match as i did by putting which films you would want under the comments on checkout.
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I thought the 8525 is the same as the TyTN, and the screen protectors for it won't quite fit the Tilt.
But you can confirm these will fit the Tilt?
GWelker62 said:
I thought the 8525 is the same as the TyTN, and the screen protectors for it won't quite fit the Tilt.
But you can confirm these will fit the Tilt?
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Unless it's an unusually small screen protector for the TyTn/8525, you are correct that it will be too large for the Tilt. I had to trim about a millimeter off of each dimension of my Boxwave ClearTouch Anti-Glare for it to fit.
I really like the Boxwave protectors. I had one protector last for over two years on my Treo 650, and similar to another protector described, if you want to clean it just use hand soap and water and stick it right back on.
In fact, I found that if the protector is slightly wet, it is much easier to get the bubbles out. It took almost no effort after I trimmed it when I put it onto my Tilt's screen.
So do any of these make the screen easier to see in direct sunlight?
I just ordered 2 BRANDO superclear ones ... have had a lot of phones and have had a lot of screen protectors but i have to say brando is DEFINATELY the best.
Noiz said:
So do any of these make the screen easier to see in direct sunlight?
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I've never came across any that would. The only thing that helps is the... ummm, shade.
GWelker62 said:
I thought the 8525 is the same as the TyTN, and the screen protectors for it won't quite fit the Tilt.
But you can confirm these will fit the Tilt?
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I confirmed it in my review. BTW Dont be stupid and trim it, it fits perfectly, trimming it would cause it to be loose once its in which will become an annoyance.
I just received the overlay plus screen protector for the tytn, and it does not fit the kaiser screen. The tytn overlay is larger than the kaiser's screen. I hope martin fields accepts exchanges.
d12ag0n49 said:
I just received the overlay plus screen protector for the tytn, and it does not fit the kaiser screen. The tytn overlay is larger than the kaiser's screen. I hope martin fields accepts exchanges.
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keep trying to fit it in, if you read the original review he says that it's very hard to get it in there, but once it's in...it's gonna do good.
I was able to fit it in but its not on perfectly because the overlay uses a silicone adhesive, which makes it somewhat difficult to maneuver unlike the nushield screeprotectors which you just slip in.
d12ag0n49 said:
I was able to fit it in but its not on perfectly because the overlay uses a silicone adhesive, which makes it somewhat difficult to maneuver unlike the nushield screeprotectors which you just slip in.
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wait....i think this is a case of miscommunication, I thought that you couldnt insert the NuShield protectors in, so I said to keep trying because the original poster said that it took him a little bit, but now it seems like you are talking about another kind of protector.
Conclusion: I'm confused
a lot of 99 cents only stores have 10 for 1 screen protectors that are larger than the kaiser. i bought like 5 of these (50 count) and just cut them to the size of the manufacturer's protector. it takes about a minute and avoids the highway robbery of screen protector prices.
ghaith_d said:
wait....i think this is a case of miscommunication, I thought that you couldnt insert the NuShield protectors in, so I said to keep trying because the original poster said that it took him a little bit, but now it seems like you are talking about another kind of protector.
Conclusion: I'm confused
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Sorry for the confusion. I purchased the Martin Fields Overlay Plus screen protector and not the Nushield one that the OP reviewed.
d12ag0n49 said:
Sorry for the confusion. I purchased the Martin Fields Overlay Plus screen protector and not the Nushield one that the OP reviewed.
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aaaah, makes sense. I already have my 6gb micro sdhc and my nushield protectors...im just waiting for my kaiser
Nushield now has a drop down menu for Tilt in ATT and TyTn II in HTC sections. I will order them since it seems like a pretty good value.
i ordered a shield from shieldzone.com
i have used them on my blackjack and digital camera, but never a PPC device so I will have to see how well it works..

What is the best thing to protect my screen?

I can't get screen protectors to stay on. I apply them per the instructions and about a week later they come off...
I have a Martin Fields screen protector and haven't had one issue. I keep my phone in my pocket most of the time too.
invisible shield
hands down the best protector on the market.
lifetime warranty, never needs replacing, etc.
I have one on my Tytn, my Himalaya, my ipaq, my Zen mp3 player, 'nuff said.
www.shieldzone.com
I swear by WriteShields myself (www.pocketpctechs.com). I've had them for my past 3 devices and they've outlasted the devices. They're very easy to put on cleanly with no air bubbles. They even have an anti-glare version that makes it much easier to see the scren outdors. I've never noticed any decrease in screen responsiveness; in fact, I prefer the firmer feel with the WriteShields.
drummrsanonymous said:
I swear by WriteShields myself (www.pocketpctechs.com). I've had them for my past 3 devices and they've outlasted the devices. They're very easy to put on cleanly with no air bubbles. They even have an anti-glare version that makes it much easier to see the scren outdors. I've never noticed any decrease in screen responsiveness; in fact, I prefer the firmer feel with the WriteShields.
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Agree, i like these products.
I use the Crystal version, which makes the screen look naked, exactely like a brand new screen, flashy, glossy screen. Now the second version is Drumm's above, i didnt test it yet.
These protections are thick, thus kinda rigid. As a consequence no air bubbles remain when applied.
I just bought a Martin Fields, and it works really well. I was using NuSheild before that but I could never get the bubbles out, and as soon as I would get them out, and press my screen again, they would come back, very annoying.
Martin Fields however does not have that problem, and installation was a lot simpler, plus, it comes with a camera (lens) protector as well.
are the screen protectors mentioned in this thread pretty easy to apply? i usually get a clean application but there's always one or two bubbles that won't go away. another thing is getting it to lay down straight. do you guys have any techniques for applying?
I tried yet another screen protector and it came off again. I guess what I am looking for is a case that also has a cover for the screen, but not an aluminum case (too bulky).
My answer is...
A chap on ebay from Hong Kong. 3 protectors for a very small price.
Search for... HTC TyTN II Kaiser MDA Vario III screen protector x 3
Seller name - feidolphin
I have used this bloke 3 times for the same product for various handsets and he has always sent high quality items and pretty quick on the postage side to (6 days max).
Steve
I can recommend one from Brando. Very good quality. Well regarded in some countries, however not that known in the UK.
Martin Fields Screen Overlay.
Been suing these on all my devices: my original SPV, P900, SPV M2000, XDA Exec, M3100, Ameo and now my Vario III, and they are the BEST. Properly installed, bubbles smooted out, you can't tell they're there, and they are nearly impossible to damage, unless you take a knife to them. Also, if your device has multiple screens and/or cameras, they provide protectors for those too.
The protector T-Mobile provided with the Vario III is PANTS! I damaged it installing it, trying to rub an airbubble out...
skoop99 said:
Been suing these on all my devices: my original SPV, P900, SPV M2000, XDA Exec, M3100, Ameo and now my Vario III, and they are the BEST. Properly installed, bubbles smooted out, you can't tell they're there, and they are nearly impossible to damage, unless you take a knife to them. Also, if your device has multiple screens and/or cameras, they provide protectors for those too.
The protector T-Mobile provided with the Vario III is PANTS! I damaged it installing it, trying to rub an airbubble out...
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Suing? Eh... USING...
WriteShield
Hi,
Someone can say me if WriteShield Screen Protector fit exactly the screen size of the Kaiser without leaving some screen surface unprotected ? Or which one fit exactly the screen's size ?
Thanks in advance
Moo
i just used the official iphone one from apple and cut it down to fit. and it works great no bubble or anything like that...and the left over is just big enough to cut a small disk out to put on my watch face. and then i can use the piece for the back when i need a replacement for the one on there.

[IDEA] Use thicker/multiple screen protectors to make the screen more flush?

Would having a thicker screen protector allow us to make the screen more flush to the trim? I have read that the screen is only recessed 1mm. It seems that we could easily compensate for that with a protector, essentially making the screen flush already?
Is the screen further recessed than I have read--and has anyone had issues hitting the screen perimeters? Scroll bars, X/OK, start menus, outter letters on on-screen keyboards... et al?
I want this (the x1a) to be my next phone, and I think I can deal with the screen, but I would like to make it as close to my original Touch as possible--which has the best recessed touchscreen I have ever used. I can easily hit all the extremities, and scroll, and when I draw on the screen using the Notes application, I can easily draw to all the borders, using my thumb.
With the speediness of this phones rotation, I worry less about the on-screen keyboard, but I find myself wanting to use it a lot... like, for quick messages, and entering data into programs, like a web browser. I use the hardware keyboard for longer emails, texts, or modifying documents.
How has the recessed screen affected you guys?
makes it more difficult to be a one hand touch phone. you need to use the stylus to make selections more accurate. im always using a stylus anyways but it would be a better phone if the screen wasnt recessed.
Well sometimes it is indeed an annoyance but not really all that great. For multiple reasons though. I'm often having hard time using controls on the borders with my finger, I found out it's better to just kind of push at the border itself and thus let only part of the finger on the screen than trying to push it in the border and selecting something farther from the border. Furthermore it makes the screen harder to clean.
Also I've noticed reduced sensitivity around the borders even using the stylus (in Pocket Artist to be exact), is this normal? I have to push a bit more to draw, etc.
However, I can imagine a flush screen wouldn't really fit the design of the phone
Wow, these comments are very disconcerning to me... If the screen is annoying to use, and they keyboard is not as good as the Pro, then why would anyone pay 3x the price to get this instead? I took my Pro back because the Sprint model overheats--the AT&T model has crappy GPS, that AT&T locked down...
I really like what I see in the X1, but if critical WM functions are hard to use without a stylus then that would be a deal-killer for me
to me, i dont think the phone is worth the 800 i paid because i kind of was expecting more. a phone that is an all in one for me. phone, wifi, browse, tethering..... and compact.
dont get me wrong, it does all that i want so far but i think the screen is a little to small. great resolution but screen could of been a bit bigger. i bought the phone on line and so i never really got to physically see it before i bought it. i just went with what was on the specs alone.
also i was expecting more out of the browser... its okay but i just wished it had a full browser with complete flash and java support.
its my first wm device and so i was also expecting more out of the os.
sliding keyboard was one reason i bought this also and so again i was expecting better.... keyboard is okay but i wish it had more key mapping options and key functions. it seems when using the keyboard, i also have to use the stylus.
i guess i was just expecting better for my 800 bucks but then again i havent really tried customizing it such as trying different third party apps or the other cab files.
i think the htc hd would of been a better phone for me but they dont make it for the u.s high speed band. i got what i got and so ill try and make the best of it and see if i can make the most of it.
Yeah, right now, we don't have that many great options in the U.S.
We have the CDMA Omnia, but it's screen is pathetic compared to the HD. It's also quite unresponsive, and very awful around the edges...
We have the CDMA Diamond, which overheats, and has similar screen issues. No SD slot either.
We have the CDMA Pro, which overheats, has similar screen issues, and more defects than you can shake a stick at.
We have the AT&T Pro, that has crippled GPS...
So what the hell is the best phone out there right now or in the near future? It sounds like the X1 just isn't worth it... Maybe if it was $299 with a contract, like the Pro...
I really don't get your complaints. What's the problem with the screen?
The recessed display is the best idea SE had with this phone. I won't even think about the scratches I had on the screen if it were plain like the TouchHD.
By the way, the Xperia has the same price as the Touch Pro here in Austria and it's far the better choice. For me it's all in one and everything I want from a PPC works fine.
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I really don't get your complaints. What's the problem with the screen?
The recessed display is the best idea SE had with this phone. I won't even think about the scratches I had on the screen if it were plain like the TouchHD.
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How does the recessed screen help with scratches
Matmax said:
How does the recessed screen help with scratches
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The frame is protecting the screen. When the unit is faced downwards on a flat surface it won't let the screen touch it directly, that way you save a lot of scratches.
Also I find the recessed screen very handy with sliders, with my thumb nail I can scroll as fast as I want without worrying loosing the slider. The only problem with the screen so far is the "x" button on the right corner, but I am getting used to it.
A minor advantage is that screen protectors can be fitted more easily and accurately. Of course non-recessed screens have other advantages but nonetheless I am very happy X1s screen.
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The frame is protecting the screen. When the unit is faced downwards on a flat surface it won't let the screen touch it directly, that way you save a lot of scratches.
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Thank you for explaining, that's exactly what I meant to say
If the screen were plain it would be scratched by the zipper of my pocket all the time. So the zipper just touches the frame and this doesn't matter.
however it protects the screen from scratches...
skycamefalling said:
I really don't get your complaints. What's the problem with the screen?
The recessed display is the best idea SE had with this phone. I won't even think about the scratches I had on the screen if it were plain like the TouchHD.
By the way, the Xperia has the same price as the Touch Pro here in Austria and it's far the better choice. For me it's all in one and everything I want from a PPC works fine.
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Here in the US, the Pro is $199 or $299 with 2-year, and the X1 will be $799. Also, if you put a screen protector on your device, your screen looks perfect. My Touch has zero scratches on the screen, but has one or two on the screen protector..
May I ask why you would ever want to lay your phone down on it's screen? I have never done that on any phone I've owned, PDA or not.
XavierGr said:
The frame is protecting the screen. When the unit is faced downwards on a flat surface it won't let the screen touch it directly, that way you save a lot of scratches.
Also I find the recessed screen very handy with sliders, with my thumb nail I can scroll as fast as I want without worrying loosing the slider. The only problem with the screen so far is the "x" button on the right corner, but I am getting used to it.
A minor advantage is that screen protectors can be fitted more easily and accurately. Of course non-recessed screens have other advantages but nonetheless I am very happy X1s screen.
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I'm glad to hear you are happy with the screen--but you really have to use your fingernail with the scroll bars? That's pretty weak... like we are going back to the days of the Apache...
You guys can verify that the screen is really only recessed about 1mm? If so, wouldn't putting a screen protector on there make the screen flush again?
ScrapMaker said:
You guys can verify that the screen is really only recessed about 1mm? If so, wouldn't putting a screen protector on there make the screen flush again?
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Well it's really recessed only a little and I guess it does protect it a bit. I actually had both the touch pro and X1 in hand and then actually chose to go with the X1, they are priced the same here too.
MagNetCZ said:
Well it's really recessed only a little and I guess it does protect it a bit. I actually had both the touch pro and X1 in hand and then actually chose to go with the X1, they are priced the same here too.
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Do you think that if we had a thicker screen protector, could it make the screen flush, and have the same effect as, say, a Touch--with a true flush screen, unlike the Diamond and Pro...
the screen protector would have to be pretty thick to make up the recessed area. not worth the effort.... i think if you buy it, youll just have to try live with it. its really not that bad but would have been more touch screen friendly if it was flush. not a deal breaker for me and the more i use my phone, the more i am getting to like it more... but still not worth the 800 bucks (no phone is worth 800 bucks, i just bought the phone on a whim).
Sorry to say that but the idea is flawed.
Imagine having to handle complex equipment with 3 gloves on your hands... it will be a mess.
Anyway I don't really understand the fuss about flush screens, the only problem I find on XPERIAs recessed screen is the 'x' button on the top right corner and a bit of the 'Start' button. The scrollbars are way too thick to be a problem to operate.
Both problems are solved with time and experience with the device. Imho the protection of the recessed screen outperforms the advantage of easy access on the 'x' button, not to mention that you can just press the ok button to have the same effect.
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not to mention that you can just press the ok button to have the same effect.
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Exactly. And I can imagine the sensitivity going downhill with protectors that thick anyway.
Oh, it has an OK button?
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Noob smartphone owner, many questions...HELP!

hi guys,
I've been using hard-keyboard phones for the last 10 years or so. I've now got a Samsung galaxy s2 with Orange and i have a few problems which I'm hoping you guys can help me with.
1. The touch screen is extremely sensitive, so is there a way of reducing this?
2. Can you recommend a case/cover:-
a. which is not too expensive
b. can also protect the actual touch screen
c. makes the phone more thicker and easier to hold
Thank You
1. That's the point.
2. Check the accesories subforum. I've got a 2$ TPU case + screen protector. It's enough if you don't drop it
thanks TheSaw.
Even if it is made to be sensitive, not every person is the same, so surely just like people want a screen to be more sensitive, you'll get people wanting a screen to be less sensitive?
The accessories subforum is for USA and i live in the UK..any names or recommendations?
Yeah this should be in the Q&A or accessories sub forums really.. But regardless, Check Ebay for the Wave case.. comes in a range of colours, is sturdy and robust, makes the phone just a bit more bulky and substantial in the hand and is also ridged in quite a good way for a secure grip. Normally comes with a free screen protector too- the one I got with mine fits well and has endured since the phone's release date - I keep it in my pocket so expected to have to replace it before now.
Applying a screen protector will also reduce sensitivity although the decrease may be negligible... but if you can find a super-cheap nasty one I'm sure it will decrease performance more notably.
You could see if this thread helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161262
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thank you very much for your advice guys.
@ propergood - i love the wave case...its cheap and seems to do the job...main issue is scratch to screen or phone. as you can understand, a person whom has used a hard-keyboard phone for years, its way too sensitive, so i think i'd be okay with less sensitive. If i bought 2 screen protectors, could i double them by sticking one on top of the other, to make it more thicker, i.e. less sensitive?
@ aceofclubs - that app simply calibrates the screen, right? If so, then i'm not looking for that...i'm wanting an app which allows me to adjust how sensitive the screen response should be...is there such an app?
Also guys, if i rooted my samsung s2, would i be able to backup my original Orange/Samsung FW? And would Orange find out? I don't want to void the warranty.
I think it's underestimated how resilient these phones are to be honest...
While it probably would further reduce sensitivity I wouldn't advise trying to double layer screen protectors... at least not without limitless patience and about 10 protectors to try/retry with.
The bezel around the wave case does enough for me to keep the screen off surfaces when laid face down.. If you want full front coverage you'd need to get a flip style case or holster, which personally I find to be impractical, and my feeling is that these type of cases don't really provide full protection from direct pinpoint pressure on the screen area anyway. (I had a hard holster for my old blackberry, screen cracked anyway as I leaned over a rail a bit too hard...)
If you happen to want a belt clip type thing though this looks an interesting alternative...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RUBBERIZE...Accessories&hash=item519b9751f4#ht_5575wt_943
the belt clip case is great, but its not protect the front screen and when i say protecting, i mean from scratches or pressure.
so i assume you also have an s2? if so, then what app do you use to secure the phone? i want to do online banking and want a safe protection...i.e. it should be extremely hard for someone to break into the phone if they get hold of it.

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