Bluetooth GPRS modem on Mac OSX - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

Hi and HEEEELLLLPPPPPP!!!!
Has anyone managed to connect the Mda Compact to a G4 Powerbook via bluetooth to access the internet on GPRS account??
I cant get the Apple to create a bluetooth dial up connection with the mda.....
Will a change in stack be useful eg bluesoleil / toshiba???
Are there any modem scripts for the mac??
Has anyone achieved this via PocketMac??
I am trying to connect a G4 Powerbook with Tiger to a unlocked UK T-Mobile MDA Compact runnung Qtec 1.12 English rom with big storage hack on UK Orange.
:shock:
sorry always wanted to use one of those emoticons.... :wink:
Any help would be greatly appreciated.....

Riz,
Have been trying the same with both QTEK 2020 (forgot HTC name) and S100 (Magician) both on panther & tiger. Haven't gotten past the Bluetooth issue. In terms of GPRS scripts http://www.taniwha.org.uk/ has some, but not for our favourite devices. Am desparate to get same sorted. Do believe HTC's Bluetooth implementation ha something to do with it. remember on my 2020, I did run a Bluetooth utility to increase BT functionality, but to no avail....
Sorry not to have been of more help
Phil

Welcome Mr. Apple ;-) I am also running on "the only real system". We have to wait for http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_windowsmobile.html Will not take longer than 2-3 month any more.

Thankyou guys for your responses desperate (sometimes girlie like) cry for help. In my quest I have found that there are many like us stuck in the void between ppc and osx.
I even tried creating a connection using virtual pc !! Desperate times etc .....I can’t wait to try this Missing Sync ..sounds too good to be real so I have Emailed the company with our queries.
Have any of you guys tried it yet ???
Thanks again

sorry should read "to my "desperate girlie like etc
will poof read next time

sorry should read "to my "desperate girlie like etc
will poof read next time

Actually the mark/space site says The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile will be available before the end of June, not 2 or 3 months.
So any day now.
BUT, I have read in another thread here that both mark/space and pocketmac programs promise a whole lot more than they actually deliver, and are buggy.
Are there no other alternatives?

i think that the panther version is available now for the MDA Qtec s100 etc and the tiger version will be in the form of a free update??
it will retail for 39.99usd...could be a costly experiment??
has anyone tried any of these products in the past???
please could you point out the thread where you saw the negative reports on pocketmac and missing sync
thanks

Yes, long time ago I used Missing Sync for Palm Clié. It was stable, simple and great. Im quite sure, the new version for my MDAc will be similar. Thats the reason why I already deleted PocketMAC from my Powerbook and don't sync anything till MarkSpace software is available.
If you have an old version from Missing Sync, equal if Palm, PPC or whatever, you can updrade for just 19 $
By the way, not very actual, but helpfull:http://www.markspace.com/support/remove_pocketmac.html But you also have to check everything manually and yourself, cause with Tiger there are new and more files less.

Hi Mr Macmax,
My knowledge of palm based systems is not to good. Please could you tell me ......
Did you sucsessfuly use the missing sync to connect the clie via bluetooth to your powerbook?
Did the clie allow you to use it as a modem to connect the powerbook to the net??
This is what i want to achieve with my MDAc and powerbook via a bluetooth connection. I am hoping to use the MDAc as a bluetooth GPRS modem for my powerbook.
I was wondering if the missing sync program would bridge that particular gap??
Thanks

Hi riz,
well it is a very long time ago I used Missing Sync for Palm, so I can't really remember what was possible and what not.
But it's important to know that we have 2 possebilities to sync our Baby on a MAC: MissingSync or PocketMAC. Last one is a, sorry, pain in the ass, so rests MissingSync.
If it will work like you described, well, als them. But I'm quiete sure it will work cause it already worked with PocketMAC. Otherwise it can be a problem regarding to the right phone driver. May have a look here for modem scripts: http://www.taniwha.org.uk/

Thanks for your advise Mr Macmax but i have already been down the script path trying generic and ipaq scripts in the hope to fool the G4...but its just too smart...
I am tempted to buy the panther version of missing sync that is available now.... i think?? set up panther on the powerbook and give it a go??
still....could be a costly experiment
BLUETOOTH TO BLUETOOTH.....WHATS THE BIG DEAL!!!! ....one of the teeth needs a filling!! is there a doctor in the house!!!!!
sorry....this is really starting to bug me.... :twisted:

hello again ....
Has anyone managed to create a Gprs connection with the MDAc and Mac via a SD Wifi card so the phone modem is used to connect the Mac to the net?
Also.....
Anyone have experience with GSG script creater ?? Could it be used to make a bluetooth Gprs script for the MDAc so the Mac recognizes the bluetooth modem???
http://www.macronsoft.com/pages/en/gsg.html
anyone ??

Did you use an AT String. This is neccessary for windows. Look for the AT String needed for your provider and paste it into the properties of your bluetooth modem. At least, this is the way it works with windows.

I have managed to get it working with XP. I am trying to get it working with a Mac G4 Powerbook
..thanks for trying though....

The thing is, it shouldn't depend on the Os. The SSA service is standardized, your stack will be the same as for windows I guess (Widcomm, isn't it?). The only thing you need to set is the AT string, the rest should be done by the profile itself (i.e. giving you a dialog where to enter the connection settings).

The problem is that the i can not get the Mac to recognise the MDAc as a modem... so i fall at hurdle one..
..and i am not to sure where i would enter the init string ??

The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile is out now . but . i emailed them with this issue and they kindly informed me that this software will not allow the mdac to be used as a bluetooth gprs modem.
its been a while but has anyone cracked this little nut yet ?
ross from
www.taniwha.org.uk/
has been trying to help me on this but my knowledge of the mac is far from expert
is there any way to connect the two devices ie usb , wifi etc ?
as far as the g 4 is concerned the jam is modemless ?

The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile is out now . but . i emailed them with this issue and they kindly informed me that this software will not allow the mdac to be used as a bluetooth gprs modem.
its been a while but has anyone cracked this little nut yet ?
ross from
www.taniwha.org.uk/
has been trying to help me on this but my knowledge of the mac is far from expert
is there any way to connect the two devices ie usb , wifi etc ?
as far as the g 4 is concerned the jam is modemless ?

The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile is out now . but . i emailed them with this issue and they kindly informed me that this software will not allow the mdac to be used as a bluetooth gprs modem.
its been a while but has anyone cracked this little nut yet ?
ross from
www.taniwha.org.uk/
has been trying to help me on this but my knowledge of the mac is far from expert
is there any way to connect the two devices ie usb , wifi etc ?
as far as the g 4 is concerned the jam is modemless ?

Related

XDA GPRS : Sharing with Laptop via IR or CABLE?

Ok. Please don't tell me to search. I have. If you have found the magic cure, then can you possible and nicely show me there this thread is?
PROBLEM:
No internet access for Laptop on 1.5 hour train trip.
However, TMOBILE XDA phone has good GPRS signal.
REQUIREMENT:
Share GPRS internet connection coming through XDA with laptop.
SOLUTION (?) :
None found. Might test this one : http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cach...aptop-howto.pdf+gprs+laptop+ir&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Alt Link to above: http://tomt.ath.cx/attachments/gprs-turkcell-laptop-howto.pdf
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I understand boot mode (wallaby) where it can be used as traditional cellular modem. That's limited to speed problems, and I don't wish to pursue that.
I also found a link in Microsoft newsgroup (recaptured in google groups), but I need to track those individuals down:
http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&rnum=1
Thanks, hope we all can figure this out.
With wm2003 4.00.33 German there is the "Wireless Modem" application built in which works with my MDA. I don't know if that application also works with an english ROM. Maybe there is a ROM-Update out there and the wireless modem is included.
Fidl
Thanks. I just checked both PROGS and CONNECTIONS, no such thing.
New to my ENG 4.05.00 is GPRS AUTHENTICATION in the connections/networking seciton, but nothing else.
wize_1 said:
Thanks. I just checked both PROGS and CONNECTIONS, no such thing.
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I know that the wireless modem is NOT included with your 4.00.05 ROM. It was included in the 3.17.03 ENG ROM from O2.
Maybe you give a try to the wmodem.exe i extracted from my german ROM.....
Good Luck!
Fidl
Great!!! I'll try tonight installing that and will let everyone know.
One question, however. From reading other threads (I finally found some), I noticed that the laptop should be running XP.
I guess the question really is, what are the step-by-step instructions to complete the configuration and get the laptop on the internet. I would think that they were:
(1) Getting the phone to have WMODEM [complete]
(2) Powering the phone up, and running WMODEM app [complete]
(3) Powering up the laptop, and then discovering a device [unknown]
(4) Creating a new DUN (dial up networking) connection on the laptop and using the mystery modem device just discovered [unknown]
(5) Configuring SOME NUMBER to dial as the connection parameters [unknown]
(6) Connecting
I would think that the phone would accept the incoming 'request' for it to act as a wireless modem, and initiate a gprs connection, and then do some sort of NAT.
Does ANYONE have ANY more information on how this might work?
Is XP required?
GPRS Settings
You need a Serial Cable or an Irda COM Port available. XP is not required. I do Irda on W2k (it also works with XP)
Check this link for Instructions and the Irda-Driver:
http://www.myxda.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for IrDA.htm
The important thing is to install a Standard Modem over some COM port and use Advanced Settings for your AccessPoint i.e
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","web.one.at","",0,0
You then dial "*99#" (without the quotes)
Fidl
I gave up and bought an aircard!
:lol:
Where do we stand on the best solutions?
I have the same problem except I am also interested in getting the XDA to act as a wireless modem for circuit-switched data calls (7Kbps pipe).
I first saw the most pertinent information at http://www.xda-developers.com/modem/ but the page is labeled "superseded". As I understand, as soon as we get ROM 3.16.43 or above, all the "intrusive" trick posted on the page originally is obsolete.
My first question is about the "intrusive" trick there. It sure looks like the trick will get the XDA to act as a wireless modem for your laptop to make circuit-switched data calls (consuming minutes, 7Kbps only). Does it get the laptop to make GPRS connection (45Kbps) as well, assuming I subscribe to T-Mobile's data plan ($20/mo, unlimited data under promotion)?
My second question is, once we get a ROM version that gives a "wireless modem" program, can I make both types of data calls? Sounds like yes for the answer.
If so, great. Let's assume so. T-Mobile US is at ROM 3.14.40 ENG right now. In a matter of a month or two, they are going to post the upgrade for Windows Pocket PC 2003. A tier 2 tech guy told me that it will probably come with a ROM upgrade. I feel that the chances are high that that ROM version provides this "wireless modem" program. If so, isn't it true that the upgrade basically converts our XDA's into a Sierra Wireless AirCard 750, and then some? Or I am off track somewhere?
The tech support told me that the AirCard 750 approach calls for a SIM card for the air card. You would have to either open a new line for a new SIM card, quite costly, or eject the SIM card from your PPC and place it into the air card each time you use it, quite a hassle. Hardware capability wise, XDA is just an AirCard 750, and then some. It's rediculous that it was not made as such to begin with. Maybe it was just a matter of development phases to roll out functionalities gradually and we are getting there?
Hello! I´ve got only one problem left with the xda II
Does anybody know how it ist possible to get the shown data from the XDA2´s IE on the screen of a notebook? I have a wsp flatrate and want to read the text on a bigger screen......... ist that possible? does anybody have experience with this topic?
Re: Hello! I´ve got only one problem left with the xda II
alamor said:
Does anybody know how it ist possible to get the shown data from the XDA2´s IE on the screen of a notebook? I have a wsp flatrate and want to read the text on a bigger screen......... ist that possible? does anybody have experience with this topic?
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Well, there is this remote display application at YORCH.NET
"Remote Display Control for Pocket PC
With the Remote Display Control application, you can display actions on a Pocket PC, including user input, remotely on the display of a desktop or laptop personal computer. This is a great tool for demonstrating the power of the Pocket PC to a large audience. It also allows developers to test their applications for the Pocket PC on a larger screen.
size: 712KB"
I didn't try it yet, it sounds quite interesting for multiple purposes.

Internet via bluetooth

Hey Guys,
I'm new to the PPC,where i just bought a K-Jam and installed activesync 4.1 on my laptop (winxp sp2).
i have also a bluetooth dongle (MSI) and it seems to be working fine with me, i can connect my kjam to the laptop to syncronize my data.
now when it comes to using the internet via my laptop, i'm lost
i've been reading all threats which confused me when setting up the connection and i'm still not able to work it.
please if anyone can help me step by step , i'll be thankfull
thanx in advance.
I have noted by Bluetooth experiences with connecting my Xda Exec to my Home PC internet connection. It took me over a weeks worth of shouting & frustration to get this working as I ended up falling down every pitfall you could fall down! :evil:
Anyway, take a look here:
http://www.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?=42488
GL
Andy
all you need to do is discover your device and connect to the dial-up networking connection.....
once that's done it's just a matter of getting the correct phone number, username and password (if applicable).
In the US for T-Mobile the phone number is *99# and there is no user name or password.
dear underwurld
thinks for your fast response and for trying to help, not sure if the link is working at the moment , i've tried to open it several times.
lvlolvlo,
i donot think it can be that easy, i came across alot of threats were all about the activesync and ports and network connections , what made it more complicated.
any help..?
Oops sorry about that....
Missed a bloody 't' out try again:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42488
@lvlolvlo... DUN connection via TMobile.... erm I didn't go anywhere near that
:shock:
@freeway
i donot think it can be that easy, i came across alot of threads were all about the ActiveSync and ports and network connections , what made it more complicated.
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EXACTLY: Nail. Head. Hammer!
This is EXACTLY what my thread explains - I have combined & condensed so much **** you wouldn't believe.
Andy
Dear Underwurl,
i would like to thank u for these amazing information and references , however ( to tell u the truth) it is still confusing to me..
i thouhgt there might be any guidelines where i could go through steps
1-
2-
.
.
and so on...
i think i have no problem connecting my device to the laptop ( not through the dialup thing but through the activesync 4.1 and it says connected in both)
also all reference were talking about incoming ports and outgoings ones which doesnot exist in activesync4.2 ( i know it might exist on 3.8 ver)
1- if it is somehow connected to the activesync, are there anything to be configured for the proxy server , and how ( i'm using my office lan)??
2- when it says connected i try to open IE but all i get is page is under construction...what does that mean???
3- is it something related to the bluetooth (msi) driver or ghosted ports??
u c....i'm going randomly considering all these thoughts, which is confusing me alot...
will appreciate any help...
OK....
So, just to be clear:
Have you installed those nice WICOMM Bluetooth services installed on your PC?
Andy
PS
Do you have WiFi in your office???? Bin Bluetooth if you have!!!!!!!
yes, I installed the BT software that came with my BT dongle
it shows widcomm in my driver data
and no idonot have wifi in my office
what do u think?
while connected with my laptop via activesync, i checked the tcp/ip setting with pocket mechanic, it is showing a different ip address than the one in my laptop connection (LAN connection),
but showing a correct host name
and it says " Local area networks cannot directly communicate across wide area networks because they are defind by a private class of ip's"
any idea?????
when i open internet explorer on my kjam it says "page not found"
is it that difficult for you guys,
no one have gone through this before??

Bluetooth Dial Up networking on < AKU 3.3

Maybe I jumped the gun on this one... and I just haven't read enough yet. I flashed my Cingular 8125 (WIZA100) to the tmobile 2.6 ROM. Tmobile is my carrier, my PDA is now unlocked, and works ok for what it is, and I assume it's just like the tmobile MDA now.
I wanted to get my Nokia 770 on the net via a bluetooth tether. I know this has been discussed before, but I am just now realizing that I don't HAVE AKU 3.3, It more like 2.3 (14955.2.3.0). Forget the nokia for a minute, lets try PPC to PPC.
So I tried to keep it simple, and see if my widcomm BT stacked h6315 "client ppc" would find a BT DUN service on my "server ppc" (mda wizard 8125 hybrid). It finds NO services at first. Then I enable IR on the 8125, and a new incoming connection (com 6), and it shows up a serial port service on the client. That's useless to me right?
I SHOULD have BT DUN shouldn't I? Since I don't have the 3.3 ROM installed? Is there some simpler hack that I'm missing, like a registry hack along the likes of the PPC-6700 for tethering the sprint PDA? Or is it even dumber, like a check box I missed somewhere? That modem link tmobile software is garbage right?
katherine45 said:
Maybe I jumped the gun on this one... and I just haven't read enough yet. I flashed my Cingular 8125 (WIZA100) to the tmobile 2.6 ROM. Tmobile is my carrier, my PDA is now unlocked, and works ok for what it is, and I assume it's just like the tmobile MDA now.
I wanted to get my Nokia 770 on the net via a bluetooth tether. I know this has been discussed before, but I am just now realizing that I don't HAVE AKU 3.3, It more like 2.3 (14955.2.3.0). Forget the nokia for a minute, lets try PPC to PPC.
So I tried to keep it simple, and see if my widcomm BT stacked h6315 "client ppc" would find a BT DUN service on my "server ppc" (mda wizard 8125 hybrid). It finds NO services at first. Then I enable IR on the 8125, and a new incoming connection (com 6), and it shows up a serial port service on the client. That's useless to me right?
I SHOULD have BT DUN shouldn't I? Since I don't have the 3.3 ROM installed? Is there some simpler hack that I'm missing, like a registry hack along the likes of the PPC-6700 for tethering the sprint PDA? Or is it even dumber, like a check box I missed somewhere? That modem link tmobile software is garbage right?
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you don't need any reg hack - it SHOULD see the DUN profile as you have a pre-AKU3 ROM (as is also explained in my related tutorials).
I think the problem is caused by that the h6315, being a PPC PE device already, doesn't let for using EXTERNAL modems.
Give this a try: if you have a BT stick / built-in BT support for your notebook / desktop, try
1. to search for the BT DUN profile from there
2. enable the DUN service on the desktop and make the 6315 discover it, if it can
Thanks Menneisyys,
I do have a couple USB sticks, but right now I don't want to figure out what driver goes with what stick (office is a mess). I had it all setup on a laptop, for testing, but it's buried somewhere. I will if I need to though, but not till this weekend.
OTOH, when I was pairing the two PPC's (8125 and h6315), the h6315 offered DUN TO the 8125 (and I think file exchange). The h6315 can give and GET net access to/from my laptop via BT, as well as give to the nokia. I think I even tried getting net access via an old motorola v330 phone. The desktop was also configured at one time to give network access to the old X5 axim.
I remember it being maxed out at around 250kb/s (which is enough for EDGE, but shameful for sharing the laptop's 8mb/s connection at the office.)
The only problem with the h6315 was, it didn't support EDGE, and it's GPRS was toooooo slow from day one.
Thank you again! I've read many of your articles!

BT Internet Sharing, 3G, USB Sync, WM6

A long time owner of WM SMartphone platforms, I just picked up a secondhand XDA Exec yesterday and had a few Q's:
1) Is it possible to share the 3G connection from my HTC S630 to the Universal through Bluetooth?
2) Do any Canadian owners know if the Universal works on the Rogers/Fido 3G network? i.e. do we have the 2100Mhz band here? I've manually switched the network to 2100 and it keeps searching...
3) The Universal does not detect or sync with my PC (Smartphone works) but it charges fine, is there something I am missing?
4) Is it recommended to put WM6 on the XDA? If so, which flavor?
Thanks!
Need the same answers to your questions
hi afeudale,
if you got an answers to any of this questions please send me a messgae with it cause I'm willing to change my wizard to universal within days and I' concerned about your questions.
Somthing else, did you tried the vedio calling, please tell more about it, cause this is on of the reasons that I'm changing for, and what about the battery, alot of people posted a problems about the battery life.
Thanks
afeudale said:
1) Is it possible to share the 3G connection from my HTC S630 to the Universal through Bluetooth?
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So, you want to use the Universal as the client? Does the HTC S630 have Internet Sharing, or, the old DUN? If it only has Internet Sharing, you'll need to install the Widcomm BT hack on the Universal so that it's able to act as a BT PAN client. Alternatively, if DUN is OK with you, get the DUN hack and install it on the S630.
See the links to my previous articles at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336936 for more info.

WM6.1 Blackberry Connect XDA Orbit 2 / HTC Touch Cruise

Hi
Has Anyone Got the BlackBerry Connect Software Working on this model?
Thanks
Leon
i'd be curious as well. there are a few threads on this, and it seemed like nobody got it to work on the touch cruise (though people have gotten it to work on their touch).
out of curiosity, why are people choosing to use blackberry connect rather than direct push through exchange? i find that my push is not 100% reliable and considered using blackberry connect to fix this. does anybody else have that dilemma?
Sadly, blackberry is the 'corporate standard', so I am stuck with it.
I have managed to get the Blackberry Connect client 4.0.0.97 to work 100% reliably on HTC touch p3450 with an HTC release ROM. As soon as you load a tweaked or cooked ROM the Blackberry Connect stops working.
Sadly the XDA Orbit 2 comes with an o2 cooked rom so it wont work with that, I have a call in to o2 support but I wont hold my breath
Yours
Leon
Seams to work
Hi,
I still new to Blackberry installation. (It´s my first go today)
From what I have read here a lot of people have problems.
I´ve successfully installed 4.0.0.97 of the Polaris with Bepes 0.58 Full German, eventhough the first installation required a compleate reset:
The HTC also connects to the server, but I get an error as my current user has been rejected. I do believe that our IT Admin needs to allow me to use the Blackberry function..... or am I still doing something wrong?
Unforunately I´ve noticed that the PDA has slowed down somewhat after installing the Blackberry connect
Look forward following this post.
Cheers
Rar9
Rar9 said:
Hi,
I still new to Blackberry installation. (It´s my first go today)
From what I have read here a lot of people have problems.
I´ve successfully installed 4.0.0.97 of the Polaris with Bepes 0.58 Full German, eventhough the first installation required a compleate reset:
The HTC also connects to the server, but I get an error as my current user has been rejected. I do believe that our IT Admin needs to allow me to use the Blackberry function..... or am I still doing something wrong?
Unforunately I´ve noticed that the PDA has slowed down somewhat after installing the Blackberry connect
Look forward following this post.
Cheers
Rar9
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To get connected, you can talk to your IT amdin, but you don't need to if you also install the Blackberry Connect for Windows Mobile DESKTOP software. What that lets you do is obtain and assign a PIN to your Polaris/BBC setup. Its a security measure to tie your phone with your email account. Install BBC for WM desktop on a PC that has access to your email account (i.e. Outlook connecting to your Exchange server), then run the program. It generates a PIN, assigns it to your phone within BBC on the phone, then you should be good to go. Of course, you can talk to your IT guy otherwise.
And the slowdown is what I mentioned in the other forum. BBC uses LOTS of CPU, memory, and thus, battery.
Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
On a succesful install of 4.0.0.97 you will see after reset a connection even if you havent configured desktop, it is required for the desktop proggie to do its work.
HTH
Leon
leondaphillips said:
Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
On a succesful install of 4.0.0.97 you will see after reset a connection even if you havent configured desktop, it is required for the desktop proggie to do its work.
HTH
Leon
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are u saying the ver 4.0.0.97 will work n you have it on your cruise?
I have not been able to get it to work and I have the stock HTC ROM. I'm not aware of anyone who's been able to get Blackberry Connect to work on this device. Check out this thread for others in the same boat:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
Seven
leondaphillips said:
Hi Rar9
If it connects then disconnects that is because you're using a non-release ROM (cooked).
Leon
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Leon,
I don´t think it would be related to the cooked Rom. I believe that it tries to get allowance from the server and then is rejected since I never had a blackberry so far with this company. Unforunately I still can´t confirm 100% since the our IT has not responded to my query.
In the meantime I have removed the BBconnect and use an Outlook Webmail connection via Seven (thanks for jomo25) which is very FAST and is not so hard on the CPU like BBConnect. I also believe its a lot easier to install.
(http://community.seven.com/forum/index.php?forum=true)
I´ll give it another try once I get more feedback from our IT and will post my results.
Cheers
Rar9
Yeah I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM. There seems to be an issue with the TC connecting to the Blackberry server and I have no idea why. That thread I sent earlier contains some theories on the topic. The BC software is a resource hog for sure.
Assuming you're using BC to connect to Coporate Mail (Enterprise) you can always try Microsoft Direct Push instead of Blackberry Connect to get to the Exchange server. A less optimal path would be to use IMAP to connect to the Exchange server. Then you would lose Push mail functionality
Well, we have 2 threads on the same topic. Some diff players in each, so I'll cross-post this one last time...Here's the other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376917
Here's what I posted last: Seven is a "competing product" to BB's suite. If you are trying to connect to a BB server, then yes, you'd need BBC. But if you are just trying to get your email delivered, whether it be personal, POP3, IMAP, or you corporate email (Exchange) and you are behind a firewall, then Seven has a solution for you. Some more elegant than others. But it works. For me, it's the only option since we do use Exchange, behind a firewall, with no OWA externally accessible and BBC's software is very juice hungry.
As for getting BBC to work. Without knowing your exact setup, its hard to know what the issue is. First, make sure you are on the right data plan. I.e. for AT&T you MUST be on one of their BB data plans. Otherwise, you won't be able to get to the blackberry.net APN needed. Then, make sure you have the BBC for WM software installed on your phone and PC. (There are 2 programs, one for each) Then, connect your phone to the PC as in ActiveSync. Run the PC's program. You should notice that ActiveSync connection is severed, and the BB program should find the phone. Then go to assign a PIN and it should. Then it shoudl start to pull email to your phone.
The second software you need to run on the PC is here:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=225
Click on the link for: ActiveSync_BBConnect_Desktop_Setup_4.0.0.17.zip
Because BBC uses a different APN than all other network access on your phone, and your phone can only connect to one APN at a time, you will not be able to do other things like surf via IE on your phone while you are connected to BBC (another reason it sucks).
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@ Rar9, I'm glad Seven is working for you. To be honest, if you can use the Seven software, you might just wanna stick with it. Seriously, BBC is a resource hog and a half as you seem to have experienced. You'll find it tough to go thru a day without battery dying, if your expereicne with BBC was similar to mine. I even have to run Seven's Workgroup Connector (which sends my work mail through my work PC) and I STILL prefer Seven over BBC for that reason. PLUS, you don't have to worry about switching APNs between your carrier's normal Internet gateway and the blackberry.net gateway. And of course th efinal bonus: the BB data packages tend to be MUCH more expensive than the normal data ones (up to 50% price diff with AT&T).
But try it again if you would like. Hope my instructions and links above for BBC help with that.
Ok so let me clarify. I am trying to connect to get my Exchange email through a Blackberry server. Microsoft Direct Push is not an option since IT doesn't enable it on the server. I do have the Blackberry Enterprise (not personal) plan from ATT. I do have the BC software. I do have an activation code from IT. The problem is the phone does not connect to the Blackberry server. Like I mentioned in my previous post if you check out that thread on SEMS others seem to have this issue. I am getting the same behavior this user in the UK is having:
"After installation and Blackberry Setup I get:
PIN pending
IMEI it's ok
IP address No connection
Status/Service Not Connected
By pressing the "register now" button I get Blackberry Edge connection, Status/Service shows Network Available then Data Tunnel Available and finally "Not Connected". During the process I can see an IP address in the Identity screen."
Appreciate your instructions but I just don't think it works. I've tried several different versions of the BC software, no cigar.
So, just to make sure, you have the desktop PC software also? If so, what happens when you connect the PC to the phone via USB? Doesn't it ask you to move the mouse around to generate a random and unique PIN? Oh, and did you force your phone to only use Edge? I beleive AT&T's connection to the BB APN is still only available via their 2G network, not 3G (not 100% on that last thing, but I do remember it was the case before).
You know, it's been awhile since I tried this, but honestly I remember trying like every permutation. I installed and uninstalled almost every version of BC. I tried it with Edge and/or 3G. I tried using the desktop software to generate the PIN and other times I didn't. I guess I can always try again. Have you gotten it to work on your device?
Not on my Polaris. I haven't tried. I did on my Kaiser and on my Hermes. I had the same issues you describe, til I used the desktop software to gen the Pin. I'd try on my Polaris now, except that I don't have the BB data plan and don't want to go thru the hassle with the AT&T guys again to get it added (esp since I won't keep the BBC software on my phone anyways for the aforementioned issues).
So, it may be that it doesn't work with the Polaris. the new versions of BBC should work, but they may not. If you feel you've tried it and did everything right, then it just may not work as you say.
I definitely don't want to steer you down a dead end. I was just checking to see if you did everything I thought needed to be done. Sounds like you had those bases covered.
Sorry!
hambola said:
Yeah I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM. There seems to be an issue with the TC connecting to the Blackberry server and I have no idea why. That thread I sent earlier contains some theories on the topic. The BC software is a resource hog for sure.
Assuming you're using BC to connect to Coporate Mail (Enterprise) you can always try Microsoft Direct Push instead of Blackberry Connect to get to the Exchange server. A less optimal path would be to use IMAP to connect to the Exchange server. Then you would lose Push mail functionality
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Hi hambola
I read that the RIM Blackberry Connect was designed to work on Release / RTM versions of Windows mobile and has been coded to prevent it logging on via the global BES if the ROM is unsigned or if the device name is not in the list of allowed devices.
I can prove this using my trusty P3450. When loaded with a vanilla WWE RTM ROM Blackberry Connect 4.0.0.97 works fine. Load a cooked ROM and it connects then disconnects. This is the behviour I get on my polaris with its customised o2 ROM.
So it could be a clean ROM problem or it could be that Blackberry just havent allowed the Polaris to connect just yet.
Yours
Leon
xphobic said:
are u saying the ver 4.0.0.97 will work n you have it on your cruise?
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No
4.0.0.97 doesnt work on Cruise but works fine on a vanilla ROM on P3450
Yours
Leon
jomo25 said:
Not on my Polaris. I haven't tried. I did on my Kaiser and on my Hermes. I had the same issues you describe, til I used the desktop software to gen the Pin. I'd try on my Polaris now, except that I don't have the BB data plan and don't want to go thru the hassle with the AT&T guys again to get it added (esp since I won't keep the BBC software on my phone anyways for the aforementioned issues).
So, it may be that it doesn't work with the Polaris. the new versions of BBC should work, but they may not. If you feel you've tried it and did everything right, then it just may not work as you say.
I definitely don't want to steer you down a dead end. I was just checking to see if you did everything I thought needed to be done. Sounds like you had those bases covered.
Sorry!
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Hi Jomo25
no offence taken, thanks for your ideas - a second pair of eyes is always welcome!
Yours
Leon
hambola said:
Ok so let me clarify. I am trying to connect to get my Exchange email through a Blackberry server. Microsoft Direct Push is not an option since IT doesn't enable it on the server. I do have the Blackberry Enterprise (not personal) plan from ATT. I do have the BC software. I do have an activation code from IT. The problem is the phone does not connect to the Blackberry server. Like I mentioned in my previous post if you check out that thread on SEMS others seem to have this issue. I am getting the same behavior this user in the UK is having:
"After installation and Blackberry Setup I get:
PIN pending
IMEI it's ok
IP address No connection
Status/Service Not Connected
By pressing the "register now" button I get Blackberry Edge connection, Status/Service shows Network Available then Data Tunnel Available and finally "Not Connected". During the process I can see an IP address in the Identity screen."
Appreciate your instructions but I just don't think it works. I've tried several different versions of the BC software, no cigar.
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Same behaviour on a cooked ROM on P3450 - exactly the same.
German O2 Orbit 2 will support BBC in May. This is what someone from O2 told me. BBC software sends the PDA ID (Pola200) the OS version and the carrier to RIM. If your PDA is not supported by RIM you'll get " pin pending".
So we have to wait.

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