Orange works Vodafone doesn't! Unlocked with Manipulator - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

Hi everyone. Great programme thanks but can anyone tell me why my Vodafone contract SIM won't work? I get a signal fine, It detects the Vodafone network fine. But every call drops before connection with Unable to Place Call message. Also will not take incoming calls. My Orange Pay as You Go SIM now works fine... and it has definitely unlocked as only O2 worked before. But I need Vodafone SIM to work.
The Vodafone SIM still works in all other handsets. I have also checked with Vodafone and they say there is no reason why the SIM should not work in un unlocked XDA. There are no calls barred on the account.
Is it a setting I have wrong? Or something I did wrong in the unlocking process? Many thanks for anyone's help.
My XDA is Pocket PC 2002, 32mb RAM
Rom Version: 3.12.07 eng
Rom Date. O8.13.02
Radio Ver: 4.06
Protocol 32S54
David C [/b]

Hi mate,
I have used the unlocked 64 mb xda with vodaphone with no problems. My rom was 3.16 and radiostack 4.20 and it wasn't any problem. Now I have upgraded to the good old xda rom from Jeff's kitchen and new radio stack from O2. I suggest you do the same and it will problably work better.
Good luck.
Cheers
Vic

I would wait a day before trying anything else, the phone is obviously unlocked to both 900 and 1800 mhz networks. I have had experience with Vodafone and T Mobile and Virgin recently where no calls could be placed for many hours, next day everything was normal, some kind of network problem. Have you tried the sms using the Voda sim, also what message does a caller get when trying to call you if you have the Voda sim inserted.

One more thing, I think it says somewhere that if you upgrade the radio stack to 4.21 then the unlock no longer works, so it would be better to get this solved before you upgrade the stack.

Thanks for your suggestions guys. But the Voda SIM works fine in my other phones and I have just tried it again in the XDA and same thing happens. Unable To Place Call. So it's not the network.
When I try to dial in to the Voda SIM on XDA I just hear a long tone...dead. It is a very early XDA. Don't know if that makes a difference.
Any help gratefully received as running out of ideas. Is there a manufacturer that may be able to help? But then they probably know less than you. I doubt if O2 will want to!
Many thanks again
Dave

Oh and Cruisin-Thru
SMS does work both ways...just the voice calls that don't. Any clues?
Thanks v much
dave :?

Have you tried manually setting the network under settings/phone/network, try choosing that and see what happens.

I have yes.
It's detecting Vodafone network fine. Just no calls. It's almost as if there's a call bar on though Voda tell me there isn't and it works in all other handsets.
Thanks anyway
Dave

One other thing, is that a very old sim card? Have you tried another voda sim in the xda, I remember having strange problems with some phones with the earlier sim cards, dont know the difference between them though.

Hi there, thanks. It doesn't work on any Vodafone SIMS. But all other networks. Vodafone say they don't know anything about the XDA and it must be a hardware fault..
Could it be that it is not unlocked "properly"? Should I run manipulator again? Think may have to give up on this one.
Thanks Dave

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Problem connecting to O2 after unlocking XDA

Hello all
My colleague posted this message a couple of weeks ago, but didn't provide full info and as such the replies did not work. :roll:
So here it is. I would be grateful for any advice.
I unlocked my xda I, using a software I downloded from here, which was previously working on O2 UK. After that, it doesn't work with any O2 Sim. It works with all other UK sims (Vodafone, T-Mobile, Orange). But not O2. The O2 sims are ok as they work on other handsets and specifically my unlocked XDA II and other handsets ( I have tried 2 different O2 sims).
But no joy. I even tried to change the GSM frequency on the XDA through boot loader (even though I didn't have to), but no joy. I have gone through the auto config several times. but no joy. I even re-installed the latest O2 firmware and radio update (from the O2 web site), but still no joy.
I am running out of ideas. Does anyone have any idea? Should I try and downgrade the firmware and radio stack and try again? Can I do it from the original CD?
I would be grateful for any ideas.
Cheers
Nima
Can you tell us the nature of the error with an O2 sim, what is shown at the signal level meter, what happens when you attempt a call etc. Please leave the radio stack alone, your phone is working on 900 and 1800 bands so that is not the problem. Was the sim that you have at the moment working on this phone on O2 before the upgrade.?
Hello Thank you for your reply.
When you turn the phone on, it asks you for the SIM pin and the device works fine in every other way. But you get no signal. If you try to make a phone call, you get the phone dialer screen and you can dial the number but, obviously, it disconnects more or less immediately. If (from the phone dialer screen) you try and go to options it freezes and doesn't show you the options screen and then you can only exit the phone dialer. Also, I put the GSM frequenct back to what it was. I haven't changed anything in the bootloader mode anyway. I had problems with the original O2 sim after the upgrade (funny enough, it worked for a day or two), but now i don't have that sim as the contract finished. By the way, both of the O2 sims I am trying now are contracts and NOT pre-paid.
Well here it is. I hope this helps to let you figure something out. I would be grateful for any ideas. What about formware downgrade? what do you think? could it help ? is it even possible?
Thanks a lot.
Nima
It presents as a blocked phone, if you look closely at the signal meter after a soft reset you may see the signal come up but then drop back to nothing. It may be coincidence that it stopped working with O2 2 days after the upgrade. I have seen this happen with phones that either have been subject to insurance claim or where a contract was not fully paid up for the 12 months, however it usually means it will be blocked on all networks. It does not look like a rom downgrade will work, also as said before, if it works on Vodafone it should logically work with all other 900 mhz bands.

Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion

I Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion every now and then. I have radio version 1.01.00 and rom version 1.03.00 WWE. My provider is Vodafone in sweden.
If I go to flight mode and back to normal then I can connect to GPRS again. Should I uppgrade my I-Mate to get it to work? Any Ideas what to do?
I've heard of people with similar problems, you need to upgrade your Rom, if you wanna stay relatively safe, upgrade to:
Rom Version: 1.72.00WWE
U can get this from club imate
I'm afraid I can´t find the rom on the Imate Club site. But you belive my problem will be solved by uppgrading the rom right? I´ll have to search for it then. ;c) Thanks.
I sure don't see any version 1.72 on Club iMate at JAM Device Support. The latest available upgrade I see is:
Radio 1.01.00
ROM 1.03.143 WWE
Where do you see version 1.72?
Frank
I believe he's referring to the wrong device. 1.72 was for the I-Mate Pocket PC - not the Jam.
Ok. I have posted a case to Imate and they where about to send a file to correct the problem but I got an emty mail.
Imate support don't know what this is. I'm back on the hunt. Anybody else having the same problem with theirs? Please let me know in this thred
Sincere Apologies, I was in fact dreferring to the I-mate....didnt realise this thread was under magician
Got an ansver from Imate. They sent me an PDF file where they showed me how to set up the GPRS connection. The problem is, been there and done that. I’m totally lost here. Is it only me who has this problem with “magican” and Vodafone? (In Sweden). Frustrating! ;c(
Note: With my P800 and the same location and same SIM = no probem at all.
I have the exact same problem with Vodafone gprs in Sweden
Hi Robert
I have the exact same problem with GPRS. I am also a customer of Vodafone in Sweden. I have this problem regardless of the device I am using. I have been running Qtek 2020, 8010, 9090 and S100 (magician) devices with the same problem for quite a while now.
I have started to think that this is not a device problem. It is probably a problem with Vodafone GPRS. I have contacted their tech support a couple of times about this. So far we have tried disabling/reenabling GPRS on my account and switching to new Sim-cards. None of this has worked so far.
I am using their twin cards service switching between different phones, I am not sure if this has anything to do with the problem.
best regards
Christofer
Thanks a lot for giving me this feedback. I'll talk to Vodafone right away.
Solution: I know that Telia supports the magican device because they have them for sale. My solution was to call Telia and tell them that I wanted to use them instead. Its a covards solution but Imate blames Vodafone and Vodafone blames Imate.
I have an old Qtek1010 on Telia, and it is behaving just like your Magician on Vodaphone. Sometimes I have to actually remove the SIM and put it back in again to be able to reconnect.
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
bamse said:
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
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My gprs connection seems to stay connected ok even when the machine is switched "off". I have an imate jam on o2 in the UK.
I don't know if it stays on forever because i tend to log off gprs so i can go on line through bluetooth.
Simon
This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
I have several collegues who are not experiencing these problems with Qtek devices on Vodafone network. So it does not seem to be a general problem.
RobertDahlberg said:
This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
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I just talked to Telia today as my GPRS broke down totally and there was just nothing that would make it connect. The person I talked to was very helpful and professional and we managed to isolate the problem to my SIM card. Being a brand new SIM I received just two weeks ago I though that just anything but the SIM would be more probable. It was very evident though as my SIM would not work with GPRS in neither mine nor a colleauges phone but the colleauges SIM would work just fine in both.
My new SIM will arrive on monday, and then hopefully it will not be too long before my S100 arrives as well
Ok, thats somewhat god news. Then there is hope to accually use this expensive piece of toy as it is suppose to.
Some input…
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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Johnny said:
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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It will not. For two reasons:
1. There can only be one network connection at a time, and the activesync connection counts as a network connection (you can use network passthrough to use the activesync connection for network access from the PPC).
2. You can not have a GSM voice connection and an active GPRS connection simultaneously because they share the same radio hardware. Simultaneous GPRS and Voice would need two radios in the phone, and although it has been part of the GSM specification for quite some time there are no such device available on the consumer market yet.

Weirdest Problem Ever..

I have this weird problem with the JJ. I have 2 SIM's with 2 different Operators. The JJ works just fine with one SIM .....
BUT, when I insert the other SIM, I can make calls normally, but I can receive only ONE call (i mean it, ONE), after that the damn thing won't receive calls anymore! (Like the phone is turned off or unreachable)
After trying to make calls for several times it does work, but again, one incoming call and that's it.
I tried that SIM in the 8800, it works just great.
Anybody has an idea on what's going on?
Thank you guys..
PS! I did post this in another topic, but needed some attnetion from you guys, so posted it in a new topic!
It is SIM free btw ..
Come on guys, 80 views and not a single reply.
I need to you that SIM in the JJ.
Could it work by a Radio upgrade or something?
OK, please tell us which version of ROM and radio stack you have.
Sure,
ROM 1.30.69
Radio 1.09.00
Thank you Richard.
the reason there are 80 reviews and no replies is cause nobody knows.
this is an anomoly, way out in left field, that I have never seen ever in all of the forums.
1. get a new sim card
2. get a new sim supplier
3. stop swapping them, and use the one that works
4. take the phone back under warranty and have them fix it.
Tried a colleagues sim card with the same operator and the same happened.. unfortunately there are no other sim suppliers.
the reason i want to use this sim in the jasjar is that my corporate email doesn't work with the other operator, there is some routing problem to our email server.
but why this sim doesn't work properly while the other does. its really confusing.
SooSpecial said:
Tried a colleagues sim card with the same operator and the same happened.. unfortunately there are no other sim suppliers.
the reason i want to use this sim in the jasjar is that my corporate email doesn't work with the other operator, there is some routing problem to our email server.
but why this sim doesn't work properly while the other does. its really confusing.
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Throw this thought in.....
Could some settings relating to the "phone" usage be stored in the universal's registry that conflict with the other SIM card thats being used. Are both cards UMTS?
Matt
Here is a thought, Is the SIM with corporate e-mail the one that is not working? I have a T-mobile account with Blackberry BES and a Cingular account, two different SIM cards. Both work fine but the TMobile card will not work all the time with the blackberry connect software I have loaded up on my Exec. I called TMobile and they reset my "LOCAL Data" from thier switch and now it works fine.
Your carrier may have to reset some things for you to get your card working again. Just give them a ring and ask them to help you sort it out.
Throw this thought in.....
Could some settings relating to the "phone" usage be stored in the universal's registry that conflict with the other SIM card thats being used. Are both cards UMTS?
Matt
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No they aren't ... I tried to hard reset the Universal with that SIM installed, nothing changed, still can't receive calls.
And once the problem happens, GPRS won't connect as well..
Here is a thought, Is the SIM with corporate e-mail the one that is not working? I have a T-mobile account with Blackberry BES and a Cingular account, two different SIM cards. Both work fine but the TMobile card will not work all the time with the blackberry connect software I have loaded up on my Exec. I called TMobile and they reset my "LOCAL Data" from thier switch and now it works fine.
Your carrier may have to reset some things for you to get your card working again. Just give them a ring and ask them to help you sort it out.
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Already called them, they can do nothing about it, I traced our mail server using their GPRS, it stops some where is London! :lol:
I will try to down-grade the Jasjar with the old firmware. It might work :?:
Thanks buddies!
Can the Radio only be downgraded? Or I will have to downgrade the ROM as well?
You can downgrade the radio only, Find the radio you want on the ftp and then upgrade or downgrade just that
Here is what I tried so far..
1) Installing Qtek latest ROM, still didn't work.
2) Downgraded to Radio 1.06.00 and the problem is still there!! :evil:
Looks like I will be selling the JASJAR as soon as the P990i is here! :evil: :evil:
I suspect troubling SIM is UMTS (3G) enabled, AND has poor 3G coverage. JJ sees UMTS and spends its time trying to connect, but can't quite pull it off. I'm battling with this and trawling this board indicates that this is the issue; weak UMTS which you only experience witht he one SIM.

Help needed using Orange Sim in XDA Mini S

I have two XDA Mini S phones, which I believe are fully unlocked. I am able to use a Vodaphone sim in them and everything works perfect. When I put my works Orange sim in them the phone works i.e. I can make and receive calls but the Sim Manager does not work. Which means I cannot access the contacts on the sim card or use the options menu to configure the phone. When I try to access the options menu I get the message " the phone is not ready, please wait 15 seconds and try again"
Has anyone else had this problem and gotten over or around it. I have spoken to both o2 and Orange and they are both an absolute waste of time. I would appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks.
Hi,
I am on orange too, also had the same trouble. I could make and receive calls, but could not access sim card to add contacts or send / receive texts. The XDA mini is a 2G phone, my orange sim is was a 3G. When I changed it for my wifes 2G orange sim, all worked perfectly, so we just swapped sims and phone numbers. Tried to get a 2G sim out of orange on my contratc, they were having none of it, said I would have to go PAYG. So I did the swap with the wife and extended the contract.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for your advice Mlkey.
Following your response I contacted Orange and changed my works contract 3G sim for a 2G sim on contract. This still does not work and as usual I am getting no real help from Orange.
Looks like the only solution will be to change my mobile / pda, that is, unless anyone else has any other possible fix.
Are PAYG sim's different than contract sim's ??, if they are does anyone know if I were to get a PAYG sim that worked in my XDA would I be able to get my company number transfered to that sim and convert the sim from PAYG on to my works contract account ???.
I would appreciate all the help / advice I can get, before this drives me mad !!!
XDa wizard and Orange sim only
Hi,
I'm having exactly the same problem! O2 to Orange sim only and completely no SMS. Orange support is argueably the worst. Interseting to here that it's version. ie G4/G4..Have read somwhere that VOip SMS maybe the solution? ...If i can find the thread again I'll post a link.
Cheers
Eamonn
Fixed this problem by using the t-mobile 2.26 rom as described in "Definitive Guide to unblocking and rom upgrading g3 wizards
I am having exactly the same problem. My phone is a G4 and I believe it to be fully unlocked from o2. According to orange my sim is a G2 sim because the 7th number of the sim card begins with a 2 and not a 3. I cant even try a different rom because I can't connect to my computer with active sync through usb or bluetooth this has been for about a year now.I usually transfer files through a card reader. Can anybody help me because the deal with orange is really good but the phone is useless without sms or mms and I really dont want to change the phone.
My IPL 2.21.001
SPL 2.21.001
GSM 02.07.10
OS 2.21.4.1
Cheers Gord
Hi,
I am new to this forum. I have exactly the same problem . Has anyone found any solution to this/ Please help!
The solution is to upgrade the radio rom

T-mobile HD2, unlocked and won't connect to O2

I purchased an HD2 from eBay, it was locked to T-mobile. I immediately purchased an unlock code, installing my old iPhone sim (making O2 aware of what I was doing) and punching in the unlock code. All appeared well, however it won't connect to the telephone network. I'm getting the GSM icon and I can strangley check emails when out and about sometimes. But I can't make nor receive calls.
I've taken the T-mobile ROM off and replaced it via HSPL with ...
RUU_Le2_UK_1.43.206.4_Radio_Signed_15.26.50.07U_2.04.50.22_2_Ship
Which is the standard O2 ROM. It throws up the following error when searching for networks and trying to connect to O2.
"cannot register on selected network, choose another network".
I've tried everything and I'm just about losing it, smashing the phone passed my mind at one point.
I've tried my sim in another O2 HD2 and it worked fine, on all account. His O2 sim didn't work in my phone, which is annoying. So the issue is with the handset.
Before I go insane, I don't suppose someone knows a very easy solution to this issue?
Regards,
Sii
Info....
OS Version - 5.2.21864 (21864.5.0.81)
Manilla Version - 2.5.192.02525.0
ROM Version - 1.43.206.4 (70315) WWE
Radio Version - 2.04.50.22_2
Protocol 15.26.50.07U
It's sat next to me on the desk with an exclamation mark on the network icon but the mobile web icon is connected.
Very srtange.
automatic network selection brings back a failure to connect, however manual selection brings back all UK providers, selecting O2. I get "cannot register".
I wonder if it's something to do with O2 barring the handset? Brand new before I opened it. Also it was locked to T-mobile.
There must be a very simple explanation for this I hope.
Sounds like you may have to contact T-mobile for an unlock code.
TomH01 said:
Sounds like you may have to contact T-mobile for an unlock code.
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I've paid this company ....
[unlockdata dot co dot uk for a code and have used it, however that does appear to be the issue from what I can see.
They sent me a code, when placing my O2 sim in the phone asked for it, I entered it and all appeared well. However it must not be the case deep down in the phone somewhere.....
are you sure it hasnt been blocked by t-mobile? Could well be an insurance scam: data usually works on blocked phones whereas GSM doesn't.
Well I've took my O2 sim card out and stuck my T-mobile one back in and the T-mobile one works and the O2 one doesn't, but I can't make calls.
Did some diggging that this ....
I've not been able to use the phone due to it actually being barred from service. Please use the below link ..
www . checkmend . com / uk / verify
With the certificate ID of - CM4510856-D4848
Looks like it's not stolen or lost, but just barred. I wonder why.
Is there any way I can get this removed?
Its blocked then: blocked and barred are the same thing. More than likely the seller has sold the device then immediately reported it lost/stolen to claim a new one and thus not only have a new phone buy also a nice slice of cash in their back pocket.
There is no way that the phone will be barred without having been reported as either lost or stolen and there is also no way of having it unblocked unless you are the original owner, haven't made an insurance claim, and ring T-mobile with the blocking password provided when the loss was first reported to the police.
Personally I recommend you lodge a claim with PayPal immediately as any other line of enquiry will only serve to delay the inevitable: you will not get the phone unblocked.
Best of luck sorting it out.
Complaint logged with Paypal, just have to wait and see what comes of it. Included the link to the file saying it's barred, let's see what the seller has to say about that.
c*ck omlette that he is
Thanks so much for the info and shoulder to cry on, heh heh.
All the best, Sii
Good luck with it mate, hope you get it sorted quickly.
Well I spoke to T-mobile and they said "no idea why we blocked it, it's not listed as stolen or anything, there you go, unbarred".
I can make calls on my T-mobile sim, however it still REFUSES! to connect to O2, even though I've put in the unlock code supplied by the company listed above.
Spoke to O2 customer support and T-mobile, no bars on the phone, no issues are barring by either provider. Just refuses to connect to O2.
Any ideas?
If not, anyone want to buy a £360 2 day old HD2?
siilomax said:
Well I spoke to T-mobile and they said "no idea why we blocked it, it's not listed as stolen or anything, there you go, unbarred".
I can make calls on my T-mobile sim, however it still REFUSES! to connect to O2, even though I've put in the unlock code supplied by the company listed above.
Spoke to O2 customer support and T-mobile, no bars on the phone, no issues are barring by either provider. Just refuses to connect to O2.
Any ideas?
If not, anyone want to buy a £360 2 day old HD2?
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i would try and get a different SIm from o2 maybe?
or even try flashing a different radio.
Audio Oblivion said:
i would try and get a different SIm from o2 maybe?
or even try flashing a different radio.
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I've had 3 sims from O2 already this week, they've been really cool about it.
I've also had to ROMS on, the original t-mobile one, and the latest HTC ROM too.
I can't for the life of me figure out what the problem is, it's very annoying.
I may just put it up for sale on the bay of E, it works perfectly on T-mobile.
I'll try some other flashes this evening and see if that fixes it, however I don't think it will. FUnny thing is that it won't connect to the network but the large [G] connects, which does make me believe it's something radio based.
Been told to check the following ....
Yes in the sim card options type mepd
Network active - locked
Network disabled / inactive - unlocked
ANy ideas how?
Bit of an obivous thing really, but did you have to go through connection setup when you put the O2 SIM in?
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Bit of an obivous thing really, but did you have to go through connection setup when you put the O2 SIM in?
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Yes, and it won't connect/register/logon/access the O2 network.
This is the confusing thing, it can see the network but won't register with it
im not sure exactly which ROMS you have tried so i dont know whether they would have included a radio update... to be sure flash the radio ONLY!
Audio Oblivion said:
im not sure exactly which ROMS you have tried so i dont know whether they would have included a radio update... to be sure flash the radio ONLY!
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Can anyone on O2 UK please list the Radio flash they're using and working with?
I did list the ROM I'm currently using in my first post.
I tried this with the originally installed T-mobile ROM (unknown details, apologies) the latest HTC ROMs (United Kingdom 1.48.405.2 and WWE:1.66.405.2) direct from their UK site and then the O2 listed in my first post.
I'll give everything another go tonight, seriously running out of steam on this topic though
siilomax said:
Can anyone on O2 UK please list the Radio flash they're using and working with?
I did list the ROM I'm currently using in my first post.
I tried this with the originally installed T-mobile ROM (unknown details, apologies) the latest HTC ROMs (United Kingdom 1.48.405.2 and WWE:1.66.405.2) direct from their UK site and then the O2 listed in my first post.
I'll give everything another go tonight, seriously running out of steam on this topic though
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Im on 02 using radio 2.06.50.04 on mr.vandalay's Leo Lite V2.1 WWE Rom (highly recommended) With HSPL and works like a charm only mod ive need to do is the reg tweek to get mms full size.
Hope this helps mate good luck
mynamesteve said:
Im on 02 using radio 2.06.50.04 on mr.vandalay's Leo Lite V2.1 WWE Rom (highly recommended) With HSPL and works like a charm only mod ive need to do is the reg tweek to get mms full size.
Hope this helps mate good luck
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Excellent, thanks so much for the information, I'll give that a stab when I get in after work. To save me hunting around, I don't suppose you'd be so awesome as to link to the ROM
Thank for everything guys, I just hope this ROM update fixes something ....

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