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4.00.11 and 4.00.05 ENG WM2003 what is the difference ?

I planning to load the above ROMS on my unlock 02 XDA .what are the difference between them and advantages i.e. stability ,WModem and GPRS always on. I'm on T-mobile UK.

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jerome said:
I planning to load the above ROMS on my unlock 02 XDA .what are the difference between them and advantages i.e. stability ,WModem and GPRS always on. I'm on T-mobile UK.
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No new WM2003 ROM has had wmodem so far, so if you need that you have no other option than to stay with PPC2002.

XDA developer Peter Poelman
I WModem is not a problem I do not use it but it would of been nice if it were included in the ROM. Does 4.00.11 ENG have the "test only not for resale" splash screen? AND how is the GPRS on this ROM version ?
Jerome

jerome said:
Does 4.00.11 ENG have the "test only not for resale" splash screen?
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yes
how is the GPRS on this ROM version ?
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Haven't personally used it yet, but suspect pretty much the same as on 4.00.05, otherwise we would have heard it here by now.

I'm assuming 4.00.11 is ok on my Asian version xda, my question is, is it more stable than the 4.00.05?

Do 4.00.11 have the problem of going back to 4.00.05
or another rom version?

4.00.11 is probably only a minor bugfix relative to 4.00.05, and there's no problem going back to anything else: 'Programme A' still works. It only doesn't work after you flash a T-Mobile 4.x ROM (4.00.10 or 4.00.16).
Come to think of it: Has anyone seen the SD-card erase problem on .11 or .16 ?

XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
4.00.11 is probably only a minor bugfix relative to 4.00.05, and there's no problem going back to anything else: 'Programme A' still works. It only doesn't work after you flash a T-Mobile 4.x ROM (4.00.10 or 4.00.16).
Come to think of it: Has anyone seen the SD-card erase problem on .11 or .16 ?
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*knock on wood* I have been running the 4.00.16 version since Thursday morning, and no SD erasures.

Well I have flash in the 4.00.11Rom which turns out
to be a "non" event. Everything is exactly the same.
After a solf reset I even have all my short cuts back. Activesync recognise a new rom and I have to reestablish partnership.
The cache problem I think Ive been having with PIE is still there. I now think its the usual behaviour of PIE which Ive only now noticed because Ive been playing with ByteCounter.
Thankfully Ive never any problem with sd erasure with
this rom or the previous 4.00.05.
WM2003 is a great great upgrade and has given new leash of life to my Xda. I may never need XDA2 now, that is if I can resist sd wifi

SD card erased
Unfortenately this morning my SD card has been erased under 4.00.16 cooked in Jeff's kitchen. I had no earlier this problem under 4.00.10 and 4.00.05.

Jerome, in Jeff Summers's Kitchen ROM, if you choose : 4.00.11 ENG , not the T-Mobile one, the splash screen, is the "xda developers's one and not the anoying "test only not for sale" ; I did it and allis fine with nice stuff more in ROM ... :wink:

Yorch.net ROM - 4.00.21 (Official Pre-release upgrade)

Can somebody tell me please whether this upgrade is good?
What is exactly the upgrade other than WM2003? (A comparison will be excellent!!!)
Is it stable and whether it can be used in Asia?
Thanks very much indeed.

Yorch does not have 4.00.21
but he does have 16 which I have found to be the most stable ROM for tmo us

It's there; just not in the kitchen
Look in the "Upgrades" section.
I haven't used it, but I've seen where it is.

still using this rom
Hello
I am using this rom and have travelled from the US to Europe and back, becarefull with the charges of the internet in Europe, it seems a little slower there
It works well, overall connectivity seems to be improved
Some reboots but nothing extreem.
Hope this helps
Frederik

Someone please.
Is this ROM okay to use in Hong Kong (Asia)?
I think for WM2003, excel or word files downloaded from inbox can be opened directly.
For PPC2002, you must transfer these files through Activesync, otherwise, you can't read them. Is it true? That's why I am thinking of upgrading my device to WM2003.
Thanks a lot.

chris_khho said:
I think for WM2003, excel or word files downloaded from inbox can be opened directly.
For PPC2002, you must transfer these files through Activesync, otherwise, you can't read them. Is it true?
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I'm pretty sure this is correct. Since upgrading to WM2003 I've opened an excel spreadsheet that was an email attachment.
Note that not all things transfer across - for example, the Spreadsheet I opened had an embedded chart. All of the numbers, etc. were there but the chart was MIA. This makes sense because charts aren't a feature of Pocket Excel.

Have any Asia Pacific o2 xda user upgraded to this 4.00.21 ROM and is it stable with 4.21 radio and 5.1.5 bootloader?
Pls advise.
Thanks

i did upgrade my asian O2 to 4.01.00 only
I still use my 4.21.01 radio
i did downgrade my bootloader from 6.22 to 5.15
no significant problem at all... only known problem
like the backlight problem and SD erasure problem... :lol:

Thanks very much for your reply.
I think I have to wait for a while because of these problem. I don't want it to erase my SD.
Where did you find 4.01.00 ROM?
Cheers,

Special Edition WM2003 Rom?

ok, i have installed the special edition rom for my xda1 and its a definate improvement over the original rom..
but i noticed that the window mobile 2003 upgrade is available from o2 and wondered whether it was significantly better than the special edition?
of course, if there was a xda-developers special edition rom based on wm2003 that would be the best solution... :?
Nas

There are many WM 2003 ROMs and most of them works quite fine ... try the kitchen at www.yorch.net or http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/

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but i noticed that the window mobile 2003 upgrade is available from o2 and wondered whether it was significantly better than the special edition?
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Where is the WM2003 upgrade from O2??????
Give me alink to download please...
Stefan

I didnt know there was one, anybody else seen it?

nope i cant see it.

my bad
soz, not from o2, just the ones from other providers that are floating about.

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soz, not from o2, just the ones from other providers that are floating about.
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Just do it, upgrade it! I upgraded my Siemens SX56 with AT&T to 2003 and than cooked the rom from Yorch to unlock. By the way, it is a very good rom, thanks Yorch.
I did it with SD cards one of my XDA's, it worked perfect and quick: saved 2003 rom on one card, cooked Yorche's on another. The saving and installation was done through the bootloader as discribed in the proceedures in frequently asked questions section. The extracting and saving of Yorche's rom was done through OSImageTool in XDAtools into an SD card inserted in a USB card reader/writer (Inland 9 in 1 card Reader/Writer, $10 at Micro Center). The battery was fully charged on my SX56 and the flashing of rom's back and forth was done without the XDA being pluged to power unit. I tested the unlocking with a T-Mobile card, it recognised it, I made some phone calls with no problems, kept Yorch cooked rom for two days to get to know it and then flashed it back with my SD saved 2003 rom in my friends apartment just to show off how easy it is to flash the rom. it worked very well (it took about 5 minutes).
The 2nd SX56 was done all through ActiveSync with the XDA and card reader/writer pluged in and all synchronised (allscreen savers, power savers etc on PC and XDA OFF and battery charged). This XDA still had the original 2002 rom. The unlocking went very smooth. I did a full back up of the rom with ActiveSync. Since the cooked rom is PW10A1 and mine was PW10B1 I needed to get back my original rom to the XDA. The restore didn't work because it is a different partnership. So I flashed it back with my SD saved 2003 rom in a card reader/writer and OSImadeTool through ActiveSync. Everything was fine all the way to hard reset. I waited a minuteor so and did a hard reset and nothing happened, did it couple of times, nothing. It would not restart. I pressed the power botton and it went to bootloader mode. I did soft reset and the unit goes blank, dead. So I inserted the SD card with my 2003 rom into the XDA's memory slot and did the the bootloader mode, it took it, I flashed it. And now I have my 2nd SX56 with 2003 rom and the old radio stack ulocked working like a champ. I tasted with T-Mobile card and it works instantly, no configurations needed. Now I have to do a complete upgrade.
After all I like the new 2003 better but with some of the programs from Yorch Kitchen rom, which I installed and they work fine.
You, ladies and gentlemen, at XDA-Developers are the greatest thing that happened to the mobile devices community. I honor you and thank you. And Peter Poelman, you are the wizard, thank you.
John

can you guys show me how to cook to ROM or and link to download the file upgrade from wm2003 to 2003. Thank a lot . I'm using O2 XDA 2002

tommy_kiss79 said:
can you guys show me how to cook to ROM or and link to download the file upgrade from wm2003 to 2003. Thank a lot . I'm using O2 XDA 2002
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Look here for the answers:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/FAQ
and here to cook the rom:
www.yorch.net
check what you want or don't want and click Build ROM now, after it is done click Download. Before you build and download choose which file you want, exe or nb1. What ever you do backup your original rom preferably and safer to an SD card either through OSImageTools in XDATools and ActiveSync or the mode and the SD card pluged into your XDA
bootloader, and read the forum in details...
The new Mobile 2003 you can get at any of the provider or manufacturer of XDA's: www.T-Mobile.com, www.ATTwireless.com, www.My-Siemens.com, Microsoft has a list of manufacturers that have upgrades - www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/
Make sure you use the right one for PW10A1 or PW10B1 what ever your device Model No. is...
Good luck, John

saracen said:
The new Mobile 2003 you can get at any of the provider or manufacturer of XDA's: www.T-Mobile.com, www.ATTwireless.com, www.My-Siemens.com, Microsoft has a list of manufacturers that have upgrades - www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/resources/
Make sure you use the right one for PW10A1 or PW10B1 what ever your device Model No. is...
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John (and any others out there),
I hope that I'm not asking something here that is covered in some faq on this board and I think I've read them all, but...
I see mention of a lot of versions. 4.00.21, 4.00.01, A30.05, A30.09 etc...
Is there someone that can tell us new guys a little more about these? IE, what is it exactly, 2003, 2002, beta, final, alpha?
I recently bought a Wallaby, and want very much to use the MS Voice Command. Therefore, I have a definate need for a 2003 rom. I have read and reread the forums here and have a good handle on how to flash my rom, but I'm so confused as to what the best (read most reliable) rom to install, as well what radio version would work with the given rom choice. I'm not necessarily asking for a recommendation, but perhaps a nudge in the write direction.
Sorry to dump on you in particular, nothing personal either mind you! It's just that I'd love to read a FAQ for the different versions and what might be expected from them I guess. (I hope like heck I'm making sense here!)
Thanks!
Larry

Hello,
Actually, the only difference between ROM versions is bug fixing with newer versions, but the only significant factor is whether it's PPC 2002 or WM 2003 ROM.
For upgrading, I may recommend TMO 4.01.00 (my personal preference) or A30.09 (with a minor sound issue). If you need to unlock your device you must start with PPC2002 3.17 ROM first then select any WM2003 later.
There is no connection between the ROM and RSU. However, the RSU is the most sensitive part in the XDA. If you have a functioning RSU ... do NOT touch it!!
Last, get a SD card and take a backup ... it's safer and you can use the SD to upgrade as well.
Good luck ...

This is to Larry,
All these replies take you through the right directions. I have two Siemens SX56 devices with AT&T Wireless, both PW10B1, Pocket PC2002 (Ver. 3.0.12039), ROM Ver. A.20.17 ENG, RADIO Ver. A.20.10, 32MB Rom.
1st one I upgraded the day AT&T and Siemens released the Mobile 2003 free upgrade. As much as people complained, cursed and were distroying there SX56 devices ( what I read on AT&T forums) I never had any problems, and as a matter of fact the more I used the device the better it became. I played with it for about two weeks and then I decided to unlock it. So I placed my SD card into the SX56, started the bootloader, downloaded the original 2003 Rom image, soft reset the device. I cooked the Special Edition Rom based on 3.17.03 O2 ROM in Yorch Kitchen, I built the nb1 file, I downloaded, extracted with WinZip, put it on another SD card, put the card in my SX56 device, started the bootloader, flashed it, did a hard reset. It didn't ask me if I wanted to unlock it but the XDAunlock program was there, I taped it, it asked me if I want to unlock, I did. I checked it with a T-Mobile sim card, made a phone call with no problem (I tested with the same card before and after, before asked me for the pin number and after it logged in to T-Mobile network). I used it with the Special Edition Rom for about a week to see which programs I liked and wanted to install on my device after I flash back to saved Mobile 2003 Rom. I flashed it back with the 2003 Rom image. I was on the road, away from power supply, my pc, usb ports etc. Just the unit with its battery charged up, the SD card and the bootloader. It took 5 minutes.
My 2nd SX56 device I did before the 2003 upgrade, the original 2002 still there, with ActiveSync, OSImageTool in XDATools, SD cards, card reader/writer and nb1 file. This time I overlooked the saving of the original 2002 Rom and it went directly into the flashing with the Special Edition Rom cooked in Yorch Kitchen. I unlocked it, tested with T-Mobile sim card and flashed it back with the the Mobile 2003 Rom image saved from my 1st SX56 device. It didn't want to wake up after the hard reset. It kept going to the bootloader mode. So I inserted the SD card into the SX56, started the bootloader , flashed it back again with Mobile 2003 Rom, did a hard reset. It worked. Now I have my 2nd SX56 with new mobile 2003 Rom but old, the original Radio Stack from Pocket PC 2002. It works fine. The working is like the Upgraded 2003 device. Maybe with the older radio Stack is more stable on the signal, and I don't know for sure because I did not tested, only what I read and the people having problems. My preference is a total upgrade, the Rom and the Radio Stack, I noticed that the audio quality is better with the total upgrade, specialy when on the speaker phone during a phone call.
What ever you do save the settings and the Rom images and you do the right PW10A1 or PW10B1 (the Special Edition Rom is PW10A1). Make sure all the screen savers, power savers, sleep modes etc. are turned off on both the PC and the XDA device.
Good luck, John

saracen said:
What ever you do save the settings and the Rom images and you do the right PW10A1 or PW10B1 (the Special Edition Rom is PW10A1). Make sure all the screen savers, power savers, sleep modes etc. are turned off on both the PC and the XDA device.
Good luck, John
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Thanks, guys!
I kind of knew that the differences were a matter of bug fixes, what I wasn't sure of is which is 2003 or 2002. I'm going to keep reading here of course. This is a fantastic site to be sure!
So, bottom line is I guess I'm just going to pick a couple of them and flash them and play with them so which works the best.
Many thanks again guys! Larry

Larry,
Yes, exactly. I forgot to say that my new rom is an AT&T- Siemens: ROM Ver. A.30.09 ENG, Radio Stack A.33.02. The previous Rom version had a band switch (900 for Europe or 1900 for Americas) in the Settings and under Phone but now with the new it has an auto configuration which I like better. I can always search the network manually. By accident I found that if you set it to manual and don't have a network specified or any signal strength showing as long as the phone is turned ON, I can still get on Internet.
Good luck, John

One final ?
Guys
Is there ANY version of the W2003 ROM that comes with the Wmodem (or similar) application ?
I first came to xda-developers when I was trying to use my Qtek as a modem....thereafter we saw the O2 and Qtek PPC (2002) upgrades that brought in the Wmodem utility.
That seems to have disappeared off the priority list for most people these days, though.
Cheers
Sands

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That seems to have disappeared off the priority list for most people these days, though
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IMHO, the new PCs/laptops with either built-in WiFi or WLAN functions or with equivalent PCMCIA cards, or even with SIM module inside, made it out of the wishlist

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Guys
Is there ANY version of the W2003 ROM that comes with the Wmodem (or similar) application ?
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The German Version 4.00.33 from t-mobile comes with the wmodem application
HTH
Stefan

Stefan,
Is there an English version of Mobile 2003 with wireless modem for PW10B1 XDA?
Thanks, John

Can't receive USA Cingular signal 850mhz- Help Anyone?
I've posted on some other forums but no-one seems to have an answer. Can an unlocked AT&T SX56 be adjusted to work on the Cingular 850mhz system?
Help!!
Doc

WM2003 problems

I have a WM2003 (ROM version A.30.09 ENG) on my SX56, that I had upgraded after putting in the SER to unlock the phone. Now WM2003 is much too buggy for me!
- the phone rings just once on an incoming call
- the system hangs every now and then
- apps take too damn long to start up
- ring volume is not very high
and on & on & on.......
I'd like to upgrade something more stable - either WM2002 or 2003 (if there's a stable version out there). Did go to LumpiStefan's kitchen but there are several options within the 2003 ROM's itself.
Can someone pls recommend to me which ROM would be best for me. And can I put in a T-Mobile ROM into the SX56?
TIA
Omi

A30.09 is known to have some issues with the sound.
TMO 4.01.00 is a very good and stable ROM, and yes you can use it with SX-56 device as long as you don't touch the RSU.

Thanks Biso007.
OK, so if I go to LumpiStefan's kitchen and cook a ROM there and put it into the phone, I would only be changing the PDA OS (and not doing anything to the RSU), correct? Just want to be sure before I go and experiment
Omi

How about the 4.01.16 ENG ? The kitchen says that it is the official TMO release? Can I go for that, since it guess it is the most recent release ?
Omi

4.01.16 ENG is working perfectly!
I would strongly recommend this ROM.. its WM 2003 version.
AND, I recommend the SD Card method.. flawless installation!

Question regarding newer ROM for the SX56
I have the older ROM and have not experienced any problems with anything that was mentioned. Am I just extremely lucky or is thing something I should expect to arrive shortly, considering I downloaded my newer ROM recently from the Siemens Site. I use everything on my phone and have no problems at all, only sh_ _ _ _ signal strength, damn AT&T! I would switch but still own then a year on my contract, so I won't go on and on about that.
Please let me know the pros to this newer ROM, at least in terms of stability and performance, if that is possible from someone that has loaded it.
Oh - one more Question...
Would I have to reload all my installed applications after flashing my ROM, or can I simply back them up and then restore them from backup without having to enter all the keys, and licenses that you would normally have to put in on the installation?
Thanks!

mraj said:
4.01.16 ENG is working perfectly!
I would strongly recommend this ROM.. its WM 2003 version.
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Some people encountered problems with 4.01.16, so I didn't want to risk especially that when I checked the system files and DLLs of this ROM I found that they are dated the same as the 4.01.00 ones!!
chalil said:
I have the older ROM and have not experienced any problems with anything that was mentioned
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I 'm refering to A30.09 and its known sound bug (clipping) ... which ROM you mean ??

Wokay, 4.01.00 it is then
Thanks everyone, especially Biso007, appreciate your help.
Omi

Thaks everyone for your help, successfully upgraded to 4.01.00, though i lost all my contacts :-(
I had backed them up on a SD card and when I tried to restore that after upgrading, nada!
any ideas how i can get them back (i didn't sync with oputlook before the upgrade).
Omi

SD backup can be restored only to the same ROM version
It's a silly task if you really want your contacts back (long list I mean) .. flash your ROM to the old version, restore the SD backup, sync with outlook, flash the new ROM version, sync with outlook again ...
Don't you think that keying your contacts is easier ??

Speed of BA w/WM2003?

By virtue of my 2 x XDAII's failing for whatever reasons (abuse, long-life, etc.), I had to shift to one of my XDAII's (BA) with base OS:
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WM2003 SE
Version 4.21.1088 (Build 15045.2.6.0)
Processor: Intel(R) PXA263
Memory: 125.77 MB
ROM v.: 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/10/05
Radio: 1.12.00
Protocol: 1337.42
ExtROM v: 1.40.923 WWE
Model No.: PH20B
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I have found that this phone is WAY SLOWER than the XDAII - it's really incredibly slow! (And I had my XDAII with less RAM available!)
I have had problems connecting in Mumbai (India) with Vodafone (this happens with other units (EDGE modem/XDAII) too, but this is *extreme*!
I have to shut off the radio (put into flight mode) then back on, in order to connect to GPRS, or it simply will not connect!
I have tried flashing the ROM for the radio to 1.15, but I have to edit the file on the unit, else I get the error - it's really very time-consuming!
I'm afraid that all my time that I put into this unit will go to waste if I do not have a stable unit that I can rely on....
Any feedback on this?
Thanks!

Try the T-Mobile's rom or PDA2K's rom in Blue Angel Upgrading section.
The O2 rom bugs me too much.
Also install O2 Asia upgrade (I guess u r running a non asian one thats why BA isnt showing compatibility with ur network. Try upgrading to WM5/6 and see if u have luck on GSM/GPRS since majority of asian networks phail with BA WM5/6/6.1/6.5

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Try the T-Mobile's rom or PDA2K's rom in Blue Angel Upgrading section.
The O2 rom bugs me too much.
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Yes, it's the O2 ROM - not sure if this one was the one I bought in SIN or in the UK...any ideas, or way to tell?
Both were O2 branded....
dark_prince said:
Also install O2 Asia upgrade (I guess u r running a non asian one thats why BA isnt showing compatibility with ur network. Try upgrading to WM5/6 and see if u have luck on GSM/GPRS since majority of asian networks phail with BA WM5/6/6.1/6.5
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Which is the best upgrade (simplest) to do, stable, with almost no bugs, with a similar to original config/options?
TIA!

well first of all if you want less bugs do not install the OEM crapware (the extrom software) you may even resize the extrom partition to 128 k to use the space as storage
http://alevri.atspace.com/ - updated Shipped roms list and mirrors which i will keep online
My advice is to flash the latest t-mobile 1.42 rom delete radio and extrom update files and flash rom only

xplode said:
well first of all if you want less bugs do not install the OEM crapware (the extrom software) you may even resize the extrom partition to 128 k to use the space as storage
http://alevri.atspace.com/ - updated Shipped roms list and mirrors which i will keep online
My advice is to flash the latest t-mobile 1.42 rom delete radio and extrom update files and flash rom only
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Wow - thanks for the tips - wonderful to have the gurus of the BA helping us!
So, how does one delete the radio files?
I unzipped and extracted, then ran the .exe file, which started the RUU update.

xplode said:
well first of all if you want less bugs do not install the OEM crapware (the extrom software) you may even resize the extrom partition to 128 k to use the space as storage
http://alevri.atspace.com/ - updated Shipped roms list and mirrors which i will keep online
My advice is to flash the latest t-mobile 1.42 rom delete radio and extrom update files and flash rom only
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explode... i have 02 XDAIIs, what your advice for ROM on my IIs? and btw i cant expand my extrom to 128K using tools on XDA-DEV (extrom_unlocker.cab and Repart_doc.exe) had any idea?

Stevo.Mksr said:
explode... i have 02 XDAIIs, what your advice for ROM on my IIs? and btw i cant expand my extrom to 128K using tools on XDA-DEV (extrom_unlocker.cab and Repart_doc.exe) had any idea?
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Why can't you? Keep in mind that you can only do this only in 2003. So, from what I have read in your other posts you are either in 6.1 or in 6.5 (going back to 6.1). You have to use the Repart_doc and the ExtRom Unlocker tools in order to do so.
Aside from everything, I have been using xplode's version of 6.5 and I am pretty happy with it (both stability and usability)-wise.
If you are absolutely disgusted by it, you should try sun_dream's 20578. Best 6.1 that I have had...
Hope this helps.

@egzthunder1: did back to original rom wm2003 02XDAIIs and other cooked rom in wm2003, but it failed due to physical logic reason when im runnig repart_doc.exe. but when im expand my SX66 its work!! weird thing.

Stevo.Mksr said:
@egzthunder1: did back to original rom wm2003 02XDAIIs and other cooked rom in wm2003, but it failed due to physical logic reason when im runnig repart_doc.exe. but when im expand my SX66 its work!! weird thing.
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That is the weirdest thing... it should work fine since it is the same phone...