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Hi,
I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime, recently, there was a review of this smartphone at DPReview, mainly due to the camera being 13Mpx with Phase Detection Auto Focus, on such a cheap smartphone.
And I was wondering, how can I identify the Camera Sensors on this phone?
There has been a teardown of the phone, and below is the picture of the sensors found:
myfixguide dot com/manual/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-Teardown-16.jpg
The thing is, this references don't lead to anywhere... I've searched the net for them and found nothing... On Xiaomi's publicity, sometimes the sensor is publicized as being from Samsung or OV (Omnivision), this is never good, as we never know really what is the sensor we have on our phone...
And I've seen my share of Chinese Smartphone manufacturers that say they put sensors from Sony, and then it's Omnivision or Samsung (if your lucky), or else it's "Sunny" or some other small time chinese sensor brand...
What called my attention was, that for a smartphone so "cheap" (base model costs aprox. $125 in China), they put a 13Mpx PDAF sensor on it...
But I'm not sure both Omnivision and Samsung produce sensors with the same specs, also, from the picture below, it looks like the sensor might in fact be from "O-Film", another relatively lesser known sensor brand (check: o-film dot com)
Both sensors seem to have similar codes:
OMI BA 08
OMI 5F 05
So it looks like they might be sourced from the same manufacturer, but looking at the references, I'm afraid if they aren't really a 8Mpx sensor, interpolated to 13Mpx... Because of the "08" in the reference of the back sensor, while the front one has "05" which corresponds to the frontal camera spec of 5Mpx.
Can anyone help me identify the real sensor inside my phone? Thanks for the help !
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Edit:
the sensors are http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/cmos-image-sensor/mobile-cis/S5K3M2?ia=217 and http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=150
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
sunbriel said:
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
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Thanks for the tip !
In my case, I have:
- Back camera: the Sunny made S5K3M2_2ND (probably a clone of the Samsung ISOCELL S5K3M2, maybe this is their 2nd version clone or try...)
- Front camera: the Ofilm OV5670 (a clone of the Omnivision OV5670 probably)
I wonder if these clone brands have as good quality as the original ones...
Been looking on Chinese forums about this topic. I myself don't really care, but it slightly caught my interest. They are saying that the sensor is Samsung's and the camera module is Ofilm's or Sunny's.
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Same here. The picture quality at day rivals those of much more expensive phones and the phone focuses fast enough for me - so the question on whether it's original vs a clone, or whether the PDAF is a real or fake one is purely academical to me. As for how such a "cheap" phone can have such features, it's simple: the companies charge huge margins. Just look at Sony's M5, it's essentially the same phone with more megapixels (though, tbh, not really better image quality) and costs around 500€. You're paying about 300€ just for the brand and pixels.
It's not a clone. Here is one of the links where it is explained what it all means: www.miui.com/thread-2916880-1-1.html
Use Google translate, you'll understand the general meaning. Basically, it's like I wrote in my previous post.
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I'm not saying it is a clone, I'm saying I wouldn't care even if it is.
I was responding to the OP, though.
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I have Sunny cameras (rear & front)
Front camera shot clean pictures in good light condition.
Rear camera is a little bit noise and macros are not perfect (you must stay at least at 10 cm from the subject in order to get a good macro) but autofocus is very fast
The problem is video FPS
I noticed that it drops dramatically in low light condition, from 30 to 22 so shot video lags
And in your?
I noticed that with miui 7 we now have slow motion so somewere around 90fps. ( you have to be in hd not in full hd to get this option).
im interested in buying the asus zenfone 2 laser, the 5.0 inches display, since i can only spend around 200€, i went for a deep search on some stores on my country and some of them told that the rear camera has 8mps or 13mps, as you can see:
gsmarena:
(can't provide links) - ze500kl as 13 mp on the rear camera
(can't provide links) - ze550kl as 13 mp on the rear camera
fnac:
(can't provide links) - ze500kl (8mp rear camera)
(can't provide links) - ze550kl (13mp rear camera)
a portuguese store:
(can't provide links)- ze500kl (they said that he has a 8mp rear camera)
(can't provide links) - ze550kl (they said that the 5.5 inches display version has a 8mp rear camera )
i would like to know the real specs, and if the 13mp camera has a huge diference between the 8mp camera version and some samples.
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i have the ,8 mpx camera, quality is often far to be acceptable. Macro are always very good thanks to laser focus but in general rumor is high and quality not high as it could be (i came from galaxy s3, i may be vitiated)
let me hit this up.
I am really curious myself.
i have a laser 2 5.0 and the specs are really confusing whenever i search online.
i hope someone would enlighten us.
Please...
It's Asus that messes up with the devices naming schemes.
There are two types of ZE500KL:
- the models with 8Mpx camera and 2070mAh battery;
- the models with 13Mpx camera and 2400mAh battery.
Asus attach a second model identifier to the main model name, but it's usually omitted.
For example, my phone is ZE500KL-1A224WW and it's a 13Mpx model.
In Italy stores sell only 8Mpx models so I buy it from Spain, that seems the only European country where you can find the 13Mpx models.
For ZE550KL there is a similar situation, with some models that uses Snapdragon 410 and other Snapdragon 615, but they are all ZE550KL.
I think that big differences like these should change the main model name, to generate less confusion.
BubuXP: I have a 13Mpix and 2070 mAh battery, czech market
GFXBench have released a fair amount of new information relating to the unreleased Yotaphone 3.
This information can be seen here, and (amongst other info) includes the following:
OS: Android 7.1.1
CPU: Octa Core 2.0GHz
GPU: Qualcomm Adreno™ 506
Memory: 3.4 GB
Storage: 51 GB
Back camera picture: 11 MP (4000 x 3000)
Back camera video: UHD (4K) (3840 x 2160)
Front camera picture: 12 MP (4160 x 3120)
Front camera video: 4096 x 2160
NFC: No
Simcards: 1
I'm quite happy with these specs, especially the 4K video recording. However, the lack of NFC is a little unfortunate.
What are your thoughts?
I just hope there will be some community support. I'm not buying any new phones that have no devs for ROMs, kernels...
again no dual-sim!!!
SDcard man! Why the hell you don't put a f*****g sdcard hole??? If not, at least I need an internal 128GB... oh of course, I only have to pay 100$ more for that extra of 64GB....
Any info of the batery??
There isn't info regarding fingerprint sensor, but it have a pedometer :-|
This specs could be wrong or from a test build... There is a spec sheet for the Yota3:
"According to a spec sheet provided to Engadget, the Yota3 packs a much bigger 5.5-inch 1080p AMOLED display on the front and a 5.2-inch 720p E Ink touchscreen on the back, both of which are the least you'd expect after such a long wait. Likewise, you'll find a fingerprint sensor on the front side. It'll also come with Android Nougat, 4GB of RAM, dual SIM slots (one of which also serves as a microSD slot), a 12-megapixel main camera with dual flash, a 13-megapixel front camera, a 3,200mAh battery and a USB-C port which also does audio output."
@michael.santos , from where did you get that info? And also important: does this information also discredit the estimated prices were said here?
eReader Fan said:
@michael.santos , from where did you get that info? And also important: does this information also discredit the estimated prices were said here?
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The information is from Engadget and the estimated price is also correct: https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/18/yotaphone-3-yota3-specs-snapdragon-625/
michael.santos said:
The information is from Engadget
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...it will be a tough sell with that aging chipset plus an apparent lack of new innovation.
LOL, the only phone on the market that's any different from all of the rest of the phones, won't sell because it lacks innovation.
Seems innovation today is more MHz and different radius on the edge
How about some RGB LEDs, upside down screen, I'm rich app and e-celeb logos? Now, that's what I call innovative!
No NFC?
The specs look great - slightly larger display, slightly larger epaper display, more RAM etc.
But no NFC would be an issue for me, and the CPU does not look like the fastest either.
Hello!
So... i have looked all over the internet to find what the difference is between these phones and all i can find is that they have the same camera setup at the rear.
But.. the pixel 3 takes marginally better pictures then the pixel 2.
How can it? Is it depending on the software? The camera app?
If it software then it should be able to get? ( Already seen some ports)
The question: whats the difference that we cant get or can get?
I'd say it's a mixture of both software, and an updated chip inside the 3.
I suspect it's software, more than anything else
SinisterXReaper said:
I'd say it's a mixture of both software, and an updated chip inside the 3.
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Okey,
But what chip makes it possible to take better pictures due to the same optics?
I havent seen any spec of a new chip? Beside the SD 845
Danne9900 said:
Okey,
But what chip makes it possible to take better pictures due to the same optics?
I havent seen any spec of a new chip? Beside the SD 845
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The Camera Sensor itself received an upgrade - it's not the same as in the pixel 2.
Danne9900 said:
Okey,
But what chip makes it possible to take better pictures due to the same optics?
I havent seen any spec of a new chip? Beside the SD 845
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It's the pixel visual core (PVC) chip. The Pixel 2/XL has this chip as well, however, they made improvements to the chip in the new Pixel 3/XL, along with really focusing on the software aspect of the phone. Sticking with a single rear camera is Google's way of giving other companies the bird saying "we can do better than you with only a single rear camera" IMO.
The headline specs are the same
12.2 MP, f/1.8, 28mm (wide), 1/2.55", 1.4µm, OIS, dual pixel
But it is apparently a different(newer) sensor. That combined with upgraded Pixel Visual Core chip for processing lead to slightly improved images
Hello Guys,
i have the Problem that no App can make Pictures with 48MP Resolution.
I had to wait for 196 hours until the Mi-tool has unlocked my Fon. It is an insolence from xiaomi imposing such a compulsory break to the customer. Some of the older Redmi Customers must wait 1440 hours, i had read. But i say nothing, the Price for the Hardware i bought is good
So i tested the Fon for 196 hours and the Pictures i made with 48MP they were very good an big (14-18 MB/jpg File).
Since i installed TWRP 3.2.x.x and Ressurretion (RR 7.0.2 from 29th Aug.) since then i can make Pictures with maximum 12 MP (3000 x 4000, 5-7 MB/jpg File). There is no way to make higher Resolution. It doesn´t matter witch Cam App i use.
I have not found any Kind of fix or People that has the same Problem.
I am not sure if i have installed the right OS. I installed RR-P-v7.0.2-20190829-lavender-Official because i had read that lavender is the right Software for Snapdragon 660 and Adreno 512 GPU.
violet is not the right one, isn´t it?
Questions over questions..............i hope you can help me.
Sorry for my bad english !
Best regards from Germany
48mpx photos can only be captured with MIUI Camera which is available only on MIUI rom. For custom roms there is Miui camera port called ANX camera 48mpx works but pictures arent as good.
Thank you for you´re help. Now i am Happy
.........ANX camera 48mpx works but pictures arent as good.
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Who has tell you this? It isn´t the Truth.
The Pictures with 48MP (8000 x 6000) look very good. I can´t show you Pics because i can´t Post attachements and i can´t post external Pic-Links.
The Pictures has a Size over 10 MB, and on the PC they look really good!
The Files i installed with TWRP are:
- ANXCameraMagisk_94.ComfortableMulticoloredNoctule.zip
- ANXCamera94_48MpFixed.zip (this Thread is helping you)
After the installation you have the App "ANXCamera", start it and be happy
Redmi Note 7 doesn't have a real 48MP sensor. It's 12MP (primary sensor). That's why third-party apps only offers you 12Mp as the max resolution.
The camera software (Stock ROM) applies a binning effect (technology), combining 4 pixels into 1 (big). Then, the software resizes the image to generate an equivalent image as 48MP (size), from a 12MP.
If you take a look at the specifications of the CPU (SoC) the device uses, it doesn't allow cameras with higher resolution than 25Mp. So, Xiaomi, and other brands too, needed to use this technology to allow the device to generate "virtual" 48MP images.
If you want to take good photos, I would recommend you to go for cameras (not compact if possible), not smartphones. As their sensors are much bigger, so better quality and light they can capture. Sorry.
Trying to help
CrashOverride93 said:
Redmi Note 7 doesn't have a real 48MP sensor. It's 12MP (primary sensor). That's why third-party apps only offers you 12Mp as the max resolution.
The camera software (Stock ROM) applies a binning effect (technology), combining 4 pixels into 1 (big). Then, the software resizes the image to generate an equivalent image as 48MP (size), from a 12MP.
If you take a look at the specifications of the CPU (SoC) the device uses, it doesn't allow cameras with higher resolution than 25Mp. So, Xiaomi, and other brands too, needed to use this technology to allow the device to generate "virtual" 48MP images.
If you want to take good photos, I would recommend you to go for cameras (not compact if possible), not smartphones. As their sensors are much bigger, so better quality and light they can capture. Sorry.
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That is not real. Indian RN7 has 12mp Sony sensor but chinese Redmi Note 7 has Samsung GM1 48mp Isocell, so there are 48 million physical pixels BUT in Quad Bayer arrangement (4 pixels are in the same red, green and blue filter), technically you can shoot 48MP photos in stock camera and YES, the soc (SDM660) allow 48mp photos in normal mode, not in ZSL (Zero Shutter Lag), photos in 48mp looks sharper in bright conditions (i tested that) and contains high noise levels on low light, anyway that 48mp are not the same as a 48mp regular bayer filter.
I hope this helps, i could be wrong. You can find [Samsung GM1 48MP] and [SDM660] specs on google.
(Google translate, sorry for my english bla bla bla)