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After having my phone for around a month, I (yesterday) decided to flip the switch and flashed myself cm10.1 and the latest franco kernel. Just now, I reached to pick up my phone (after letting it idle for around an hour and a half in my pocket), and burned my fingers. The thing is running at 46.5c when the highest it used to get for me was maybe 40-42 (watching a movie, or charging).
What do you guys think the cause is, and my best way for fixing (I dont want to go back to stock, but I will if I have to).
Thanks,
justlevine said:
After having my phone for around a month, I (yesterday) decided to flip the switch and flashed myself cm10.1 and the latest franco kernel. Just now, I reached to pick up my phone (after letting it idle for around an hour and a half in my pocket), and burned my fingers. The thing is running at 46.5c when the highest it used to get for me was maybe 40-42 (watching a movie, or charging).
What do you guys think the cause is, and my best way for fixing (I dont want to go back to stock, but I will if I have to).
Thanks,
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your device isnt overheating nor did it burn your fingers. human body temp is 37C, and it was sitting in your pocket at that temp, insulated, keeping warm. 46.5C will not burn you, ever. it could feel warm because the heat is escaping from the glass back to cool off. thats what its supposed to do. you have a quad core device, it WILL get warm.
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your device isnt overheating nor did it burn your fingers. human body temp is 37C, and it was sitting in your pocket at that temp, insulated, keeping warm. 46.5C will not burn you, ever. it could feel warm because the heat is escaping from the glass back to cool off. thats what its supposed to do. you have a quad core device, it WILL get warm.
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I have a Sony Xperia e.. it gets overheated while charging.. I don't know why???
Syed.Zeshan said:
I have a Sony Xperia e.. it gets overheated while charging.. I don't know why???
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is this a serious statement or sarcasm? lol.
while charging the battery can get hot, and the device can get really warm, especially if its being used at the slightest bit. besides, what is overheated, i mean what temp does it reach, battery and cpu?
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is this a serious statement or sarcasm? lol.
while charging the battery can get hot, and the device can get really warm, especially if its being used at the slightest bit. besides, what is overheated, i mean what temp does it reach, battery and cpu?
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my phone is currently charging and I'm posting this via phone.. so this is in no way sarcasm . it's showing battery temperature as 39 degree Celsius ( checked through *#*#4636#*#*) .. my fingers can feel the heat while I type this... though the heat is not too high but it's not negligible also.
Syed.Zeshan said:
my phone is currently charging and I'm posting this via phone.. so this is in no way sarcasm . it's showing battery temperature as 39 degree Celsius ( checked through *#*#4636#*#*) .. my fingers can feel the heat while I type this... though the heat is not too high but it's not negligible also.
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think about this.. your body is 37C. 39C is a bump warmer. since your fingers are extremeties, they will be slightly cooler than the rest of your body. since they are a little cooler, your phone will feel warmer. but in reality, your battery temp is just normal, even relatively cool for being on the charger and being used.
simms22 said:
your device isnt overheating nor did it burn your fingers. human body temp is 37C, and it was sitting in your pocket at that temp, insulated, keeping warm. 46.5C will not burn you, ever. it could feel warm because the heat is escaping from the glass back to cool off. thats what its supposed to do. you have a quad core device, it WILL get warm.
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Okay, I didn't mean literally 'burn', you're right. My point was that I picked it up and was shocked (figuratively ) by how hot it was.
Again, for the last entire month my phone (on stock) has never reached near this temperature before, even when It was actively running.
[Oh and jacket pocket, it wasnt on me. My point was that it was in a cool, dry, place not charging, and I wasnt using it].
justlevine said:
Okay, I didn't mean literally 'burn', you're right. My point was that I picked it up and was shocked (figuratively ) by how hot it was.
Again, for the last entire month my phone (on stock) has never reached near this temperature before, even when It was actively running.
[Oh and jacket pocket, it wasnt on me. My point was that it was in a cool, dry, place not charging, and I wasnt using it].
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its still a normal temp. tell me, since its spring, has it gotten warmer in your area this past month?
simms22 said:
think about this.. your body is 37C. 39C is a bump warmer. since your fingers are extremeties, they will be slightly cooler than the rest of your body. since they are a little cooler, your phone will feel warmer. but in reality, your battery temp is just normal, even relatively cool for being on the charger and being used.
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fine but whatever it is its rather annoying.. my other phones doesn't get overheated as this does.. anyways thanks for reply
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its still a normal temp. tell me, since its spring, has it gotten warmer in your area this past month?
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Okay, so saying that makes me stop worrying its going to blow up (happened to my friend's moto milestone back in the day), but it's still a new occurrence to me, which cooincidentally happened right after a changed both my rom and my kernel from stock.
The office aircon is a breezy 24c no matter what day it is .
I was leaning more towards this questions, that I gathered from when i glossed over the two respective threads, but dont understand well enough to decide or check if they're relevant:
-could it be that the rom or the kernel overclocked my phone and thats why its running hotter?
-maybe theres a wake-lock (or partial lock or whatever its called), that had my phone on though it was being left alone?
-did the kernel mess with the radio so now it keeps jumping signals?
-was there an option for 'testicular irradiation' that I accidentally enabled?
Not even sure if these are the right questions to be asking. Definitely not sure what to do about it even if they are...
justlevine said:
Okay, so saying that makes me stop worrying its going to blow up (happened to my friend's moto milestone back in the day), but it's still a new occurrence to me, which cooincidentally happened right after a changed both my rom and my kernel from stock.
The office aircon is a breezy 24c no matter what day it is .
I was leaning more towards this questions, that I gathered from when i glossed over the two respective threads, but dont understand well enough to decide or check if they're relevant:
-could it be that the rom or the kernel overclocked my phone and thats why its running hotter?
-maybe theres a wake-lock (or partial lock or whatever its called), that had my phone on though it was being left alone?
-did the kernel mess with the radio so now it keeps jumping signals?
-was there an option for 'testicular irradiation' that I accidentally enabled?
Not even sure if these are the right questions to be asking. Definitely not sure what to do about it even if they are...
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there could be 1000s of reasons that your device is running a little warmer today, really. it could all just be random too. as long as the battery stays below 55-60C(60C is the battery temp safety shutdown) and the cpu below 80C(95-100C is the cpu safety shutdown). you wont see those high battery or cpu temps unless your really pushing your device(cpu) or watching flash movies/playing intensive games while plugged in(battery). there are safety protocols set in your phone in case it really does overheat.
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-was there an option for 'testicular irradiation' that I accidentally enabled?
Not even sure if these are the right questions to be asking. Definitely not sure what to do about it even if they are...
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LMAO.
Simms give it up. Every phone I've had since single core phones hit 1 ghz have all gotten really warm
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justlevine said:
After having my phone for around a month, I (yesterday) decided to flip the switch and flashed myself cm10.1 and the latest franco kernel. Just now, I reached to pick up my phone (after letting it idle for around an hour and a half in my pocket), and burned my fingers. The thing is running at 46.5c when the highest it used to get for me was maybe 40-42 (watching a movie, or charging).
What do you guys think the cause is, and my best way for fixing (I dont want to go back to stock, but I will if I have to).
Thanks,
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mine was also same it quickly reaches above +45c though CUP can handle 100c or battery can handle 60c but i can't hold it in my hand i feel so uncomfortable so planing to put cover on it :fingers-crossed:
There are some screen shot how quickly it get hot with just 5min of facebook. one thing i have under-volt it to 687.5mv.
GS150R said:
mine was also same it quickly reaches above +45c though CUP can handle 100c or battery can handle 60c but i can't hold it in my hand i feel so uncomfortable so planing to put cover on it :fingers-crossed:
There are some screen shot how quickly it get hot with just 5min of facebook. one thing i have under-volt it to 687.5mv.
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if you put it in a case itll get a lot warmer because heat cant escape.
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if you put it in a case itll get a lot warmer because heat cant escape.
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Yes that's why I haven't put it yet. But I just flash rosbenjelly heating just wipe out .I am looking for it for long time and finally I got it so nexus 4 heating flash rosbenjelly is solution.
GS150R said:
Yes that's why I haven't put it yet. But I just flash rosbenjelly heating just wipe out .I am looking for it for long time and finally I got it so nexus 4 heating flash rosbenjelly is solution.
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good boy
niw we just got to get you to flash trinity kernel with it :angel:
So you think that trinity kernel which runs at higher clock speeds runs cooler than Franco which runs at stock CPU speeds? Mmmkay. Sure.
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So you think that trinity kernel which runs at higher clock speeds runs cooler than Franco which runs at stock CPU speeds? Mmmkay. Sure.
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um, you run it at whatever speed you want. default, it boots up at 1026mhz, with all 4 core set as minimum, and thats recent. before that, it booted up 1458mhz hotplugging, which is still slightly underclocked. just because you have a choice of raising the cpu speed to 1836mhz, doesnt mean that is the kernel default. you should learn about what youre talking about first, before you say something silly.
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good boy
niw we just got to get you to flash trinity kernel with it :angel:
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Yes I did it and it's cool can we add pie control as in PA 3.15 by removing navigation bar shortcut and status bar.
Hey guys,
i noticed my phone was getting a little hot while i had the navagtion app going.
im using the S4 flip cover and right under the back camera, where it says Samsung - I felt the phone getting hot.
Anyone experience this?
Me too
It's always hot.
I mean it gets hot often.
Of course it gets hot because the CPU is right there.
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Of course it gets hot because the CPU is right there.
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yep i think gpu too because when i play for some time some big games its so close to hurt the finger on the screen side too
expecially if its under charge
xardus said:
yep i think gpu too because when i play for some time some big games its so close to hurt the finger on the screen side too
expecially if its under charge
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According to the manual you shouldn't be using the phone at all when charging
Loool really? Its always under charge when i play or the battery drops in 2 hours i disconnect sometime when it become too hot
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Using while charging is fine unless it is overheating.
The reason it's recommended not to use the phone while charging is because it reaches high temperatures much faster and so is more likely to overheat causing hardware problems
I personally don't game while charging since this phone (especially i9505) gets really hot really fast
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Headless_monkeyhunta96 said:
Using while charging is fine unless it is overheating.
The reason it's recommended not to use the phone while charging is because it reaches high temperatures much faster and so is more likely to overheat causing hardware problems
I personally don't game while charging since this phone (especially i9505) gets really hot really fast
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yes i know that heating its very rapid while under charge..expecially now that its so hot during day and cant dissipate...in may when i bought s4 had less problem
i think i must think to buy an extended battery to play more than 2 hours hehehe are they already on stores?
Almost every good phone gets hot now and then. My rooted S4 barely gets hot. I mean i flashed a great rom (omega rom) and flashed an amazing kernel (perseus) and played a bit with cpu voltages and i undervolted my cpu and it barely gets hot , and when it does , it does not get very hot .
dazkyl said:
Almost every good phone gets hot now and then. My rooted S4 barely gets hot. I mean i flashed a great rom (omega rom) and flashed an amazing kernel (perseus) and played a bit with cpu voltages and i undervolted my cpu and it barely gets hot , and when it does , it does not get very hot .
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i tryed to underclock processors but,maybe i just made a mistake, i saw the battery drop much faster...i setted max speed at 1.2 last time but never tried again
OMG, OMG, OMG, finally!!!!:victory:
I thought I was going crazy, but YES, the phone gets unusualy hot just below the camera.
I noticed this right after performing the Apps2SD update, and since then have been freaking out!
I am afraid that constant heating and cooling of this kind can damage the sensitive parts inside,
so I have been limiting my use of the phone in the last few days.
People, this is not normal. Somebody needs to contact Samsung.
There must be a software patch for this...?!
Oh yesss!! Let's make another thread about overheating -___- It's already known that this happens, so you better get used to it.
Me Gusta!
Hello, i just got a nexus 6p 32gb for 250 brand new sealed in box. when i booted it up. it had a lot of updates since it last update was in december. i downloaded all my stuff. but after a few minutes of surfing facebook or safari it will start to get hot within 5 minutes. im wondering if a rom will fix this or is hardware problem. Thank you any advice will be helpful.
Simplyeduardo said:
Hello, i just got a nexus 6p 32gb for 250 brand new sealed in box. when i booted it up. it had a lot of updates since it last update was in december. i downloaded all my stuff. but after a few minutes of surfing facebook or safari it will start to get hot within 5 minutes. im wondering if a rom will fix this or is hardware problem. Thank you any advice will be helpful.
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"surfing facebook or safari" safari is for apple only, you sure you didn't buy an iPhone? lol also no a ROM won't fix your phone getting hot. send it back.
drago10029 said:
"surfing facebook or safari" safari is for apple only, you sure you didn't buy an iPhone? lol also no a ROM won't fix your phone getting hot. send it back.
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i meant internet. im coming from a iphone.
How hot is it getting? This phone has the Snapdragon 810 chip which is very well known for becoming pretty warm.
Mine was also very hot the first day I had it. But after I got all the updates, set it up with my apps and charged it again(from 0%) it's great!
Heisenberg said:
How hot is it getting? This phone has the Snapdragon 810 chip which is very well known for becoming pretty warm.
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it doest get hot but it does get warm after 3 minutes of user the browser.
Peraeile said:
Mine was also very hot the first day I had it. But after I got all the updates, set it up with my apps and charged it again(from 0%) it's great!
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i did the exactly same thing applied all the updates and then made it died then it still heats up.
Give it a couple days and a few charge cycles. once the phone and kernel settle is when you'll know how the phone it truly running. Also, letting a battery die IS BAD for the battery NOT helpful. It's NEVER good to let a battery reach zero, regardless if its the first charge or not. That was the way you did it with an old Ni-Cad batteries to create a memory. These batteries are Lithium-Ion, they never create a memory. It's better to charge it around 15-20% and overall best to charge at around 50% fir longer battery life (more charge cycles).
Eric214 said:
Give it a couple days and a few charge cycles. once the phone and kernel settle is when you'll know how the phone it truly running. Also, letting a battery die IS BAD for the battery NOT helpful. It's NEVER good to let a battery reach zero, regardless if its the first charge or not. That was the way you did it with an old Ni-Cad batteries to create a memory. These batteries are Lithium-Ion, they never create a memory. It's better to charge it around 15-20% and overall best to charge at around 50% fir longer battery life (more charge cycles).
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is it normal for it to get hot. after using it for 5 minutes on the chrome app. im just wondering if its the chipset. if its a common problem then ill adjust to it.
Simplyeduardo said:
is it normal for it to get hot. after using it for 5 minutes on the chrome app. im just wondering if its the chipset. if its a common problem then ill adjust to it.
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It's a common problem due to the chipset.
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It's a common problem due to the chipset.
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so your nexus 6p does the same thing.
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so your nexus 6p does the same thing.
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I've had eight and they've all gotten pretty warm. It's the SD810 chip.
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is it normal for it to get hot. after using it for 5 minutes on the chrome app. im just wondering if its the chipset. if its a common problem then ill adjust to it.
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Yeah it will get warm playing games and a bit of Yahoo video streaming of will get warm. Mine never seems to get more then 94°f or so
Like others have said, it's the chip plus the fact the entire thing is made of metal.
Hi i bought the device two days ago and whenever i use it (i start opening Facebook, instagram, WhatsApp and other apps) it gets Pretty warm in the right side or the screen and behind. The CPU reaches 50 degrees and sometimes 55 and the worries me. What should i do? Is it normal or should i return it? I previously had an Honor 7 and it reaches the same temps but it doesnt feel that warm at the touch, it Just gets warm in the bottom left corner.
the temp while i'm typing is 41C, outside its 33degrees C and inside(where i am now) its 24degrees.
I do not believe this is normal whatsoever. My S8+ has been one of the coolest-running Samsung phones I have ever owned. You might want to return/exchange it if that is possible.
I have not used/tested with any apps to determine actual Temps but it never gets hot. It gets warmer but not very hot (like my S7 Edge did) when using Gear VR.
Have you done the simple things like closing all apps & rebooting? Clearing cache, etc? Maybe some app is "stuck."
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I do not believe this is normal whatsoever. My S8+ has been one of the coolest-running Samsung phones I have ever owned. You might want to return/exchange it if that is possible.
I have not used/tested with any apps to determine actual Temps but it never gets hot. It gets warmer but not very hot (like my S7 Edge did) when using Gear VR.
Have you done the simple things like closing all apps & rebooting? Clearing cache, etc? Maybe some app is "stuck."
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Yes i tried everything
After how long of using these apps does it get warm, right away or after 5-10 minutes?
peachpuff said:
After how long of using these apps does it get warm, right away or after 5-10 minutes?
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I would say 5mins. Now it gets maximum 48 degrees in the CPU but i feel the screen and the body Pretty warm... Maybe it's me... I don't know. Feel free ti suggest me what should i do
it is absolutely not normal
my first device share the same issue with your's
well i ask for a exchange, the new unit just go to 45 when running games, most of time it wouldn't even reach 40 degrees
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new device came with new problems, red tints, home button problem
it's up to you
ask for replacement until you'er satisfy with it
I would get an exchange(Yeah right the real me would hold on to it until it melted because i'm lazy). So far this is the coolest smart device I have ever owned. Even when playing intense 3d games and emulators it only warms up a little.
Thanks Guys! I'm going to return it on Monday.
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I would say 5mins. Now it gets maximum 48 degrees in the CPU but i feel the screen and the body Pretty warm... Maybe it's me... I don't know. Feel free ti suggest me what should i do
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If you're constantly scrolling and opening posts the phone will get warm, Facebook isn't exactly a battery friendly app, but if you're stuck at a post and reading it for a while it shouldn't get warm, it really depends how you use the phone. I can get my phone warm using twitter too. My friends z5 with the sd810 gets toasty.
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If you're constantly scrolling and opening posts the phone will get warm, Facebook isn't exactly a battery friendly app, but if you're stuck at a post and reading it for a while it shouldn't get warm, it really depends how you use the phone. I can get my phone warm using twitter too. My friends z5 with the sd810 gets toasty.
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Well i dont know what to do... I'm going to return it anyway and see if it gets better. Thanks for your help.
Mate. The CPU throttles when it reaches 80C. What are you worrying about?
I advise reading your manual, which specifically tells you that the device will heat up with use and the heatpipe is located on the top right section of the phone x)
The reason why it may feel hotter than your previous (?) phone is because the metal rim (and whole body) acts as a heat spreader and the heatpipe connects to it with a thermal pad.
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Mate. The CPU throttles when it reaches 80C. What are you worrying about?
I advise reading your manual, which specifically tells you that the device will heat up with use and the heatpipe is located on the top right section of the phone x)
The reason why it may feel hotter than your previous (?) phone is because the metal rim (and whole body) acts as a heat spreader and the heatpipe connects to it with a thermal pad.
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Okay but the warm feel is annoying.
Reduce your brightness and it'll reduce the heat
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Reduce your brightness and it'll reduce the heat
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Let him get a new device. It's a better idea instead of dealing with that crap.
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Let him get a new device. It's a better idea instead of dealing with that crap.
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Trueee ?
Cpu temps keeps spiking up and down on any device that actually has a cpu.
What you need to look for is battery temp and not cpu temps. I consider battery temps a more steady measure of over heating rather than cpu as they dont spike.
Eitherways heavy bad background apps will make any device hot. Now if your just browsing on chrome with no background apps and your device temp ( battery temp ) is around 40c in a 20c room thats when ill be worried and exchange the device.
But hey thats just me
Gd luck !
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Reduce your brightness and it'll reduce the heat
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It's already low
Vcaddy said:
Cpu temps keeps spiking up and down on any device that actually has a cpu.
What you need to look for is battery temp and not cpu temps. I consider battery temps a more steady measure of over heating rather than cpu as they dont spike.
Eitherways heavy bad background apps will make any device hot. Now if your just browsing on chrome with no background apps and your device temp ( battery temp ) is around 40c in a 20c room thats when ill be worried and exchange the device.
But hey thats just me
Gd luck !
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That's exactly what happens to me...
i also have the feeling that the phone get's warm. G950FD
i received yesterday, and im comparison to my OP2 this one feels all time warm.
just looked at the battery temp and it's @ 35,8°C... i will look out for the temp, and see if it changes
i also have the feeling that the phone get's warm. G950FD
i received yesterday, and im comparison to my OP2 this one feels all time warm.
just looked at the battery temp and it's @ 35,8°C... i will look out for the temp, and see if it changes
Is there any way to disable the automatic over heat screen dimming? I'm tired of the screen dimming in the middle of my game.
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Is there any way to disable the automatic over heat screen dimming? I'm tired of the screen dimming in the middle of my game.
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Sorry but if it's overheating then it's a safety feature.
I'm sure you wouldn't prefer to be playing whilst you're phone is on fire.
I'm short, no it cannot be disabled, which I'm glad of as people would just point their finger at OnePlus.
*removes screen overheat dimming"
after 20 minutes of heavy gaming screen dies
*blames oneplus saying very bad phone bad quality etc.*
been there, seen that. to this day many indian users remove thermal configs on their oneplus/xiaomi devices and eventually ends up with dead batteries, ghosted screen, hell some just burn their phones (x3 nfc)
Cool the phone. A fan on it and/or a damp microfiber cloth. Avoid overheating the device.
It's possible for hysterious to cause the thermal protection to fail to adequately protect the device especially in direct sunlight.
The display's thousands of semiconductors are vulnerable to thermal damage, not just the chipsets.
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*removes screen overheat dimming"
after 20 minutes of heavy gaming screen dies
*blames oneplus saying very bad phone bad quality etc.*
been there, seen that. to this day many indian users remove thermal configs on their oneplus/xiaomi devices and eventually ends up with dead batteries, ghosted screen, hell some just burn their phones (x3 nfc)
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Hahah.
Do this with a PC when it's throttling.
Call the fire brigade first just incase
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Cool the phone. A fan on it and/or a damp microfiber cloth. Avoid overheating the device.
It's possible for hysterious to cause the thermal protection to fail to adequately protect the device especially in direct sunlight.
The display's thousands of semiconductors are vulnerable to thermal damage, not just the chipsets.
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Yep was thinking this too.
Slap a nice big heat sync on the back of the phone.
Problem is the battery is still going to take a massive hit every time anyway.. so you can't win really
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Yep was thinking this too.
Slap a nice big heat sync on the back of the phone.
Problem is the battery is still going to take a massive hit every time anyway.. so you can't win really
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Meh, yeah pretty much born to lose
The problem is the long game jerk off sessions on a micro laptop with very limited heat dissipation.
Limit to 5 or 10 minutes or use a gaming PC.
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Turn down the brightness...
its not like i leave it dim when it automatically dims., i raise the brightness right away and do this until im done with my gaming session. Phone doesnt catch fire. Thanks for the thermal tip.
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Meh, yeah pretty much born to lose
The problem is the long game jerk off sessions on a micro laptop with very limited heat dissipation.
Limit to 5 or 10 minutes or use a gaming PC.
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Turn down the brightness...
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Or a handheld fan made for phones...think theres a few on Amazon.
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Or a handheld fan made for phones...think theres a few on Amazon.
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It's getting around a 100F ambient here, I use a damp microfiber cloth plus fan when charging and otherwise as needed.
I just watch the battery temp as the chipset runs cool (>120F) for browsing.
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It's getting around a 100F ambient here, I use a damp microfiber cloth plus fan when charging and otherwise as needed.
I just watch the battery temp as the chipset runs cool (>120F) for browsing.
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That's insane... Have you under locked or played about with CPU speeds? They don't always stick but may help.
I've seen a difference.
Are you using a case on your phone?
It'd be nice if a cooling vent was possible so we could point a solution at it, almost like a latch then have a pass through fan.
Or even plug in and stop using the lithium battery, that should eliminate a bunch of heat.
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That's insane... Have you under locked or played about with CPU speeds? They don't always stick but may help.
I've seen a difference.
Are you using a case on your phone?
It'd be nice if a cooling vent was possible so we could point a solution at it, almost like a latch then have a pass through fan.
Or even plug in and stop using the lithium battery, that should eliminate a bunch of heat.
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A stock N10+ snap running on Pie, brightness 30-40%, power setting: optimized, it's in a Zizo Bolt case. Optimized; no cloud storage, wifi, Google play Services, Playstore are normally disabled, and no social media apps. When I first got it it was a hot running power hog... a real menace.
At >95-98F if streaming vids* I need to cool it or give it a rest by browsing after 20-30 minutes. At 100F ambient that's getting near the 102F limit I try to stay below on the battery for best lifespan. That's what's limiting me, not so much the cpu core temp.
It's a clean running machine that's gorgeous, and gets good SOT. Samsung has given me zero incentive to upgrade it... so I bought a second new one about a year and a half ago.
*streaming vids uses almost twice the power as just surfing on the browser. Watching downloaded vids uses less as surfing.
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A stock N10+ snap running on Pie, brightness 30-40%, power setting: optimized, it's in a Zizo Bolt case. Optimized; no cloud storage, wifi, Google play Services, Playstore are normally disabled, and no social media apps. When I first got it it was a hot running power hog... a real menace.
At >95-98F if streaming vids* I need to cool it or give it a rest by browsing after 20-30 minutes. At 100F ambient that's getting near the 102F limit I try to stay below on the battery for best lifespan. That's what's limiting me, not so much the cpu core temp.
It's a clean running machine that's gorgeous, and gets good SOT. Samsung has given me zero incentive to upgrade it... so I bought a second new one about a year and a half ago.
*streaming vids uses almost twice the power as just surfing on the browser. Watching downloaded vids uses less as surfing.
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They're extreme temps, how hot is it where you are?
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They're extreme temps, how hot is it where you are?
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It's 84F at 9AM, but should hit 104 today.
But it's a dry heat
Being inside is roughly 5° cooler by the time the ambient outside temperature peaks.
W Texas, is not Death Valley by a long shot.
blackhawk said:
It's 84F at 9AM, but should hit 104 today.
But it's a dry heat
Being inside is roughly 5° cooler by the time the ambient outside temperature peaks.
W Texas, is not Death Valley by a long shot.
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Bit toasty that mate, it's 25c here (celcius)
Would a case make a difference? Maybe underclock as well.
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Bit toasty that mate, it's 25c here (celcius)
Would a case make a difference? Maybe underclock as well.
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It's already 91F here, the only reason it's not hotter yet was it's a bit overcast. That's burning off, no rain forecast for the next week, just heat.
I never use the power saving mode as it's a pain.
Oddly using peak cpu performance doesn't really add more speed than in the optimized mode.
Using max resolution you take about a 4-6% hit per hour. Even with 20/10 vision the difference is hard or near impossible to spot, mostly pointless to do.
Without a case the N10+ is hard to handle and would get destroyed. Not sure how much of a difference in heat dissipation no case makes as I never tested it. Not worth the risk.
The only bad thing with a case is spotting a failed swelling battery is hidden. Had that happen 2 years ago. Was very lucky the display wasn't damaged. Normally I take the case off every 2-3 months for cleaning as it attaches very little dust and dirt.
Always watch for changes in battery capacity and fast charging performance. If fast charging fails to engage or doesn't stay engaged within its normal temperature and charge % ranges it maybe a battery failure in progress. Batteries can fail at any time but is more likely to happen once a Li is degraded (80% or less of its original capacity).
This current Li has been hovering around 80-84% of it's original capacity for 6 months now. It's a little over 2 years old... I need to change it out soon. Lol, it's outlasted the OEM battery by over 6 months In all fairness though when I first got the phone it was a power hungry hog, took a few months to figure out how to tone it down. Another reason you want to always optimize a new Samsung; battery lifespan, not just for SOT/heat/performance.
Night and day difference.
blackhawk said:
It's already 91F here, the only reason it's not hotter yet was it's a bit overcast. That's burning off, no rain forecast for the next week, just heat.
I never use the power saving mode as it's a pain.
Oddly using peak cpu performance doesn't really add more speed than in the optimized mode.
Using max resolution you take about a 4-6% hit per hour. Even with 20/10 vision the difference is hard or near impossible to spot, mostly pointless to do.
Without a case the N10+ is hard to handle and would get destroyed. Not sure how much of a difference in heat dissipation no case makes as I never tested it. Not worth the risk.
The only bad thing with a case is spotting a failed swelling battery is hidden. Had that happen 2 years ago. Was very lucky the display wasn't damaged. Normally I take the case off every 2-3 months for cleaning as it attaches very little dust and dirt.
Always watch for changes in battery capacity and fast charging performance. If fast charging fails to engage or doesn't stay engaged within its normal temperature and charge % ranges it maybe a battery failure in progress. Batteries can fail at any time but is more likely to happen once a Li is degraded (80% or less of its original capacity).
This current Li has been hovering around 80-84% of it's original capacity for 6 months now. It's a little over 2 years old... I need to change it out soon. Lol, it's outlasted the OEM battery by over 6 months In all fairness though when I first got the phone it was a power hungry hog, took a few months to figure out how to tone it down. Another reason you want to always optimize a new Samsung; battery lifespan, not just for SOT/heat/performance.
Night and day difference.
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Yea defo don't use qhd it's pointless..
Also wouldn't use power saver, I meant actually underclocking in Franco kernel
manager.
I knock them down a few notches, definitely helps.
Also with heat your phone will charge a tonne slower.. first step is 37c then 39 then 40 and so on...
Under 37c and you're getting the full 80 watts.
I think a case with some space In it would help with heat dissipation..
Android 12 also seemed to be much more efficient than 13, I've contemplated going back again and have done a few times.
Certainly shouldn't have to but needs must.
dladz said:
Yea defo don't use qhd it's pointless..
Also wouldn't use power saver, I meant actually underclocking in Franco kernel
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The N10+'s are both snaps, locked bootloaders.
dladz said:
I knock them down a few notches, definitely helps.
Also with heat your phone will charge a tonne slower.. first step is 37c then 39 then 40 and so on...
Under 37c and you're getting the full 80 watts.
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With a damp microfiber cloth it charges under 95F even when it's insanely hot.
dladz said:
I think a case with some space In it would help with heat dissipation..
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There's a very small airspace on back. It actually does quit well.
dladz said:
Android 12 also seemed to be much more efficient than 13, I've contemplated going back again and have done a few times.
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I'm still running on 9 and 10. Pie seems to run the best and is more functional. 10 has some nice tricks but has many dozens of new system apps for the UI. Oddly my disable list is nearly identical for both phones right now. That may change as I play with it more... but I really like Pie.
No plans to upgrade either. No malware on this phone (Pie) in over 3 years so it's relatively secure as configured/used.
blackhawk said:
The N10+'s are both snaps, locked bootloaders.
With a damp microfiber cloth it charges under 95F even when it's insanely hot.
There's a very small airspace on back. It actually does quit well.
I'm still running on 9 and 10. Pie seems to run the best and is more functional. 10 has some nice tricks but has many dozens of new system apps for the UI. Oddly my disable list is nearly identical for both phones right now. That may change as I play with it more... but I really like Pie.
No plans to upgrade either. No malware on this phone (Pie) in over 3 years so it's relatively secure as configured/used.
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Android 9 and 10 lool root them both mate and install an efficient kernel unless you can't, in which case that sucks.
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Android 9 and 10 lool root them both mate and install an efficient kernel unless you can't, in which case that sucks.
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The Snapdragon variants are notoriously hard to root. They also have a good vapor phase heatpipe on the SOC.
Not worth it as they run well now