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I've had the HD2 since November. This forum has been a revelation. But a few hours ago I lost the phone. It's gone for good. No insurance, no location software, unlocked, 16gb sd card. Adios amigo.
Perhaps not my finest hour. Sadly, I wasn't even drunk. Just fell out of my pocket in the taxi cab. It seems some people in Poland aren't that honest. I contacted the actual cab 20min later through the company but it wasn't there.
Anyway, I still consider myself a lucky guy. This was my first foray into the world of smartphones and through an almost free upgrade on t-mobile uk i got the phone for only 100gbp (+40 for the sd card). I bought a few apps and pirated quite a few more, so perhaps this is karma at work.
Writing this is somewhat therapeutic for me but the need to find a replacement is paramount so this also allows all you guys to share your wisdom, if you will..
No other phone matches the HD2 for screen size. It's pure luxury - ok its not AMOLED, but I've looked just now - and AMOLED is maxed at 3.7" - a significant downgrade.
The other issue is the pirating of software. I know it's wrong but I think we can all agree it's the most convenient way to test apps before buying.
However, WMP7S has left me somewhat unimpressed, I think Android is where it's at right now - development is on fire on that platform. Am I wrong? should I wait to see what happens on wm7 - i suspect that would take a year at least
So what are my options? Whichever phone I pick must be supported by XDA.... (I know I don't have many posts yet, but I chose my name for a reason... )
HTC Desire? HTC Bravo? Samsung Pico (Projector phone!!!) What's coming up?
I suspect this is the year of the smartphone and my academic year is almost up so I can perhaps hold off until the summer before buying. (Back to my w810 - still the toughest phone ever built imo)
Thanks for listening and hopefully replying.... time to roll...
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....I... pirated quite a few more (apps)..., ..
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You absolutely will not win many friends on here with the statement above.
WB
I'm not proud but I'm not rich either - I'm trying to do Med School on the cheap and its not easy. If a simple google search gives me free software, only a fool would say no.
This has only been a brief visit to the Windows platform since Windows 7 came out. For 3 years prior to that I was using linux.
Virtually all the apps I use regularly,eg FPSECE, I paid for the supporter version. There's plenty of programs that don't survive more than 2 weeks.
I apologise to anyone who may feel insulted. My intent is not to steal, but to get value for money.
Is this further weight to switch to Open platforms?
HTC Supersonic
problem solved - just have to wait again
Try out the 'premium features' on htt p://myphone.microsoft.c om/
Lock your phone
Lock your phone so that it cannot be used by anyone else. You can also enter a message to display on your phone's screen to tell the finder how to contact you.
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And that's if it can't be found through GPS...
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If a simple google search gives me free software, only a fool would say no.
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You can Google a lot of things. So you should steal them? No need to respond. Just wait 10 years when you have your own medical practice and you start getting people stiffing you on the bill. They probably found your location via Google.
Touche, and a fair point. I wont try to defend piracy with any real heart - I accept it's wrong even if the end justifies the means ('end' being good software, 'means' being fracturing a few rules)
Thanks for the MyPhone tip - I've locked the phone at least.
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I had a crack on my screen, it wasn't too bad and I took it to a repair place to get it fixed and they were ummming and arrring about doing it and I took the phone back and on my way across the room I dropped it and the screen shattered completely... aghhhhhhhhhhh
Then I woke up with rapid breathing and the first thing I thought was "oh thank <censored> it was just a dream/nightmare"...
LOL
willgill said:
You can Google a lot of things. So you should steal them? No need to respond. Just wait 10 years when you have your own medical practice and you start getting people stiffing you on the bill. They probably found your location via Google.
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wrong post, sorry......
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I had a crack on my screen, it wasn't too bad and I took it to a repair place to get it fixed and they were ummming and arrring about doing it and I took the phone back and on my way across the room I dropped it and the screen shattered completely... aghhhhhhhhhhh
Then I woke up with rapid breathing and the first thing I thought was "oh thank <censored> it was just a dream/nightmare"...
LOL
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Hahaha OMG I also had a nightmare about my phone being damaged some days ago, and just like you when I woke up I thanked the lords
We are so obsessed xD
Background:
I was waiting for the Evo, ever since it was announced. I got it on my lunch break during work (Which turned out to be 2 hours because of the sprint servers). I loved it.
Situation:
I was playing basketball when someone must have taken it out of my bag (I think it was right on top and possibly visible). I realized it probably 15-20 minutes after it was gone. I confronted the group of people and told them that I just wanted my phone back. Didn't care if they stole it, I wouldn't report it, just wanted it back. They all denied it.
I went home, more pissed than I've been in a while. I called sprint and told them my story. They said unless I had insurance (Which I'm getting in the future BTW), I was SOL. I told them to cancel my service, and I'll go back to t-mobile.
A day went by, and I started checking Craigslist to see if anything popped up. Well something did pop up. I called the people, and asked if they had the box and everything. They said they just got the actual phone for a gift. I contemplated arranging a meet up with my friend and them, and have some bats and golf clubs with me, but I decided I didn't wanna get arrested, or sued, or leave myself legally liable in any way. So I went to the police station.
I met this very friendly and nice cop outside and told him my story. He must have liked me, because he took me in, reported my item as stolen, and then I explained about the craigslist ad.
He took a look and agreed it was fishy. I told him if I could just get my hands on the phone and check the serial numbers, I could see if it was my phone or not. So, he grabbed his friend and they both took on the case (A sting operation for a phone!).
Well 12 hours went by and I was sweating because I didn't know when it was going down, or if the guys had sold the phone to someone else. Well my friends all called the phone number listed and asked if it was still available. They said that someone was looking at the phone right now. That was it, if it wasn't the cops, then I'd never get my phone back.
Well sure enough an hour later, I get a call from the cop, and he said they got my phone back. Told me never to go back to that court again. I'll have to testify, but I get my phone back in a few days.
I am probably one of the luckiest Evo Owners ever! Now just gotta get my phone reactivated... Hope there won't be too much of a problem there.
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Good story bro.
Show up to court and testify. Don't let the POS get away with it. If he gets away with it, it will teach him that stealing doesn't carry consequences.
I wouldn't post this online. Just sayin.
ok am not a good reader hehe so hmm who sstole your phone? scare the crap out of them for stealing!
Damn, talk about luck. The phone gods are looking down upon you dude. Nice. Testify and teach them to never steal again. Unfortunately once a thief, always a thief as the saying goes. I would take the cops advice and never go back to that BB court again. Congrats though.
nice! good police do exist
In the future you should install WaveSecure It'll let you track your phone and remotely wipe it among other things.
Awesome story!
Sad thing is you wont be able to play ball on that court again. =(
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In the future you should install WaveSecure It'll let you track your phone and remotely wipe it among other things.
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I have MobileDefence. What is WaveSecure like?
Cool that you got the phone back man.
To all those who say "Too bad you can't go back to that court again", why would the OP want to anyway? Obviously the type of crowd there is trouble. I wouldn't go play there again if my stuff was robbed and I never recovered it. I wouldn't be able to play having to check my stuff every two minutes knowing what happened the last time. Just sayin'.
P.S. -This is coming from a guy with a main source of exercise from Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft.
Awesome, exactly the same happened to me with my hero, december last year. Except it happened during my gym class at school, my father found it on a local auction site, and then left with a friend to confront the guys.The IMEI matched, ofcourse, and i got my phone back. Sad thing is that the douche who stole it, was a guy in my class, and even worse is the fact that he and his companion got of with a warning. Had to see him every single day for half a year.
I bring only the bare minimum when I go to the courts. Keys, ID and a bottle of water. A lack of cash ensures that I don't spend it splurging on impulse food after playing and that I head straight home. Lawl.
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I've used both, mobile defense's web interface seems to be slightly nicer, but not much difference, they have almost identical feature sets. The only real difference is that mobile defense SMS for turning on tracking originate from the US. And Wave Secure SMS originates from Asia (can't remember the country) the reason this makes a difference is that wave secure costs you 20 cents every time you use it to do anything. I would stick with mobile defense. If you have wave secure all setup it's probably not worth switching either unless you track your phone or alarm/lock it often.
I am not sure if Android offers a tracking app. I use one on my TP2 and I don't care what they do with the phone because it will provide me with the exact location to share with the cops if necessary.
One SMS with my code and my phone lets me know it's location.
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I am not sure if Android offers a tracking app. I use one on my TP2 and I don't care what they do with the phone because it will provide me with the exact location to share with the cops if necessary.
One SMS with my code and my phone lets me know it's location.
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Did you read the thread? The posts right above yours mentions mobile defense which does exactly that.
Awesome that the OP got his phone back
I've use Mobile Defense since the day I got my myTouch with only one problem. They send a text from an e-mail that has mobiledefense in the name! Like, come on, don't be THAT obvious! You should get it from a real number saying like "hey baby" or something. A phone tracking app is invaluable to anyone who owns a phone like this, though.
As for OP, you are bigger man than I. Of course, I have a family riddled with crime (blood and in-laws) so the whole "beat the hell out of you" thing is pretty much drilled in at this point.
Thanks for sharing your story. Glad you got your phone back.
I actually flew to LA just after I got the phone (canceled online pre-order and stood in line so I can have it for the weekend). Went to play basketball with my brothers, and was worried about my phone being stolen, maybe I can blame losing that game on that...
I usually leave my stuff behind the basket pole, no chance of someone getting near my things without me seeing them, and the pole protects it from someone stepping on it.
I had my very first cell phone stollen. I was a senior in highschool and got a pretty decent job and wanted a phone. I got that nokia that everybody had 8 years ago (the one with the flashlight on top). I went to the pool for swim practice and came back and my phone was gone! I called it from my buddy's phone and the DB answered and said, sorry dude! Next time bring a lock! And hung up... I called ATT and reported it. They said because it was a cheap POS phone, there really wan't much they could do, but the guy gave me a discount on the same phone (I think I paid like $40 or something) so it was all good in the end.
I guess some people just need phones more than others! Teach this guy a lesson. Don't back down and maybe he'll think twice before he tries and steals someone else's $500 investment
Glad you were successful!
p.s. The first time I read the story, I thought the "court" the cops told you to stay away from was a "Court of Law" and not a basketball court. I was like, dang, cops don't want you to come back to the court (of law)? That's messed up!
I was just curious if anyone else out there enjoyed that kinda senseless "hobby".
I was so upset yesterday when my 16gb card died and I lost about 7000 files total, including some memorable pics and videos that can't be replaced. Just about every apk that demonoid had, my beginning database of wardriving spots (prolly around 4000 in less than a week), videos and pics from my vacation, and two "cool" videos. One was me filming outside my work one day when it was pouring rain and a lightning bolt hit less than a block away. Scared the **** outta me, heh! The other was me sitting in traffic and someone was driving the batmobile from the 60's and paused by me and I got it on video. :'(
Needless to say, I've started all over again with my driving database. Maybe I will get lucky again and be able to get back into some of the gated communities to map them. Btw, I am a delivery driver, so I am driving all around day and night.
Some people have some funny access point network names! A couple I remember were one named "slut" and another called "big black d_ck" (fill in the blank). Lmao. And the word wasn't the aflac bird either!
Anyone share this "interest" and have any tales to tell while out driving of anything unusual or funny?
i havnt done that in years, but my phones wifi tether is called "sexpot"
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I was just curious if anyone else out there enjoyed that kinda senseless "hobby".
I was so upset yesterday when my 16gb card died and I lost about 7000 files total, including some memorable pics and videos that can't be replaced. Just about every apk that demonoid had, my beginning database of wardriving spots (prolly around 4000 in less than a week), videos and pics from my vacation, and two "cool" videos. One was me filming outside my work one day when it was pouring rain and a lightning bolt hit less than a block away. Scared the **** outta me, heh! The other was me sitting in traffic and someone was driving the batmobile from the 60's and paused by me and I got it on video. :'(
Needless to say, I've started all over again with my driving database. Maybe I will get lucky again and be able to get back into some of the gated communities to map them. Btw, I am a delivery driver, so I am driving all around day and night.
Some people have some funny access point network names! A couple I remember were one named "slut" and another called "big black d_ck" (fill in the blank). Lmao. And the word wasn't the aflac bird either!
Anyone share this "interest" and have any tales to tell while out driving of anything unusual or funny?
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I used to do that with my laptop. One time this guy caught me and called me an ass for trying to access his network when I was outside his house. Then he went on to tell me that I couldn't access his network anyway because he had WEP encryption. The next day I went back cracked his WEP key in about 20 minutes and gained access to his network. Amazing how much porn the guy had including the illegal kind. I changed his wallpaper to a custom one that I had that said he'd been hacked. After that it just kind of got old. More people jumping from 64 bit WEP to 128 bit.
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What is the best app for Android war driving on the EVO
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What is the best app for Android war driving on the EVO
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I would like to know this as well.
I am using "wardrive" from the market. I don't know if it's the best but it's pretty god and hasn't given me any problems. It will kill a battery pretty quick with the gps and wifi and 3g all running at the same time. I found a higher amp (1A) cigarette lighter usb thingy at bb and I just plug my sync cable into that and it's enough juice to keep the phone from pulling from it's battery and even charge it (slowly).
Keep the phone out of the direct sunlight while running the program and charging because the phone can overheat easily. The wifi ears on the phone are kinda deaf but sometimes that can be preferred. You'll have to practically be on top or very close to the signalfor the app to catch it. I think that way might be closer to where the ap actually is if the receiver is deaf.
I made an account over at wigle (google it) so I can upload the database to there and help build their map.
No, I don't try to get into other people's networks, I just map their locations. Hell, it gives me something different to do while driving besides listening to music.
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I use wardrive and it works perfect. LOL to the 64 to 128 change, I work in infosec and had to share that with a slew of my coworkers. Thanks.
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OK i'll bite. What is wardriving?
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OK i'll bite. What is wardriving?
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It's driving around neighborhoods looking for OAP (open access points) in peoples network. You would be surprised how many people go out and buy a router and bring it home and just plug the thing in without ever configuring it for security.
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I use wardrive and it works perfect. LOL to the 64 to 128 change, I work in infosec and had to share that with a slew of my coworkers. Thanks.
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You will notice a small difference in speed if using 128 bit wep. Because of the higher encryption it is more data to send and receive, therefor lower speed in browsing, downloading, etc., etc. Not enough to cause a ruccus over though.
I do this occasionally.
The Supersonic increases the fun factor significantly.
Has anybody determined the range of the wifi yet. I know it doesn't do so good through two or three rooms away from the AP. What about open airway? Anybody know?
WarDriving can be dangerous to a device tho I had a friend who tried to connect to a bank once and it did something that killed his laptop running windows instantly it made it reboot and he actually had to reload windows to this day I dont know wtf it was and I have been in IT for 15 yrs still his fault for doing it but never thought that possible!
i love wardrivers.
So does my honeypot!
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WarDriving can be dangerous to a device tho I had a friend who tried to connect to a bank once and it did something that killed his laptop running windows instantly it made it reboot and he actually had to reload windows to this day I dont know wtf it was and I have been in IT for 15 yrs still his fault for doing it but never thought that possible!
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Banks use custom hardware and software based firewalls. They are developed by companies that design firewalls. We're talking 1,024 bit encryption. I'm a network analyst and can almost guess that they had a honeypot set up on there trunk. Designed to invite the casual hacker to snoop and at the same time gather all his information, then report him to the proper authorities. Even throw a DDOS attack back at him. As far as killing his OS. They probably had a virus set to exploit any hacker that tried to breach there network.
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Has anybody determined the range of the wifi yet. I know it doesn't do so good through two or three rooms away from the AP. What about open airway? Anybody know?
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It's a PITA sometimes. I don't have any actual figures personally. I just know that it can get headache-y. It may be possible to add an external antenna for giggles...
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It's a PITA sometimes. I don't have any actual figures personally. I just know that it can get headache-y. It may be possible to add an external antenna for giggles...
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My friend came over with his new iPod Touch a few minutes ago and it can access my AP from three room away with no problem and my EVO has trouble at that distance. Apple sure does make some solid equipment. I'm a little disappointed.
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WarDriving can be dangerous to a device tho I had a friend who tried to connect to a bank once and it did something that killed his laptop running windows instantly it made it reboot and he actually had to reload windows to this day I dont know wtf it was and I have been in IT for 15 yrs still his fault for doing it but never thought that possible!
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Google must be really screwed , then.
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Google must be really screwed , then.
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LOL, Google seems to have their hands in everybody's pockets nowadays.
What would have been an excellent day for me has turned me into a ball of negative energy. I read reports here that Sprint stores were letting the Nexus S go early. Boy was I ready. Since there are only two stores I can drive to, I called the nearest one, an hour away. I ask the rep twice, If I make the trip, can I land a Nexus S today. Was told twice, sir we have the phone and yes we will sell it to you. I can't tell you how excited I was to hop in the car and take off like a bat outta hell. I pushed the S2000 to 100+ over the overpasses flying by cars thinking, get outta my way I'm getting the Nexus S *****es. I pull up hop out the car, don't even remember pulling the key from the ignition right? Well I get inside first thing on the agenda is to sit down and "play/test" the phone out a bit. Explore the gingerbread OS, determine if I REALLY want to drop 200 after just getting the Epic full price. They hand me the phone no hesitation let me play. Didn't take but 5 minutes, decided, sure let me blow my upgrade, I want the Nexus S from a development standpoint. To have pure google, and to have seemless rom options in the future cause I know the major devs will support it. Also to help me understand the lower levels of pure android to help bring that to the Epic which I plan on continuing to work on. Hell I was planning on keeping both phones. The woman goes to get me the new phone, box, etc... Manager approaches, ask what's going on. What's going on is I'm about to leave another satisfied customer. NOT. Manager says he "just received word via e-mail" he can't sell it. I explained I called ahead and drove from out of town to get it. He tells me "that's not far to drive come back sunday". You ************. I left the store before I opened my mouth because that usually ends in my vent cut short by police who then have to take the rest of my vent, which ends up in a trip to the local jail until I calm my temper down. It's really hard to raise it but when I'm heated, it's hours before it falls. Needless to say I been on the phone with the owner of the store who is very considerate, considering I'm not polite at this minute. She is taking my rant telling me it's deserved (despite the fact she's at home obviously dealing with family and life). We work out a deal that is NOT me getting the device.
So what's the point of this all? beside me ranting? I hope one thing comes of this thread. Whomever is responsible for my waisted drive, (its not the lady on the phone when I called, she put me on hold while going into the back to ask permission, the guy who gave her permission points his finger at the district manager who had "just sent the email" that I found was lie, the store owner tells me they got the do not sell e-mail 4 hours before I even called). So whoever is truely to blame, and I'm sure I know and looked you in the eyes. Eat a bag of dicks, and enjoy the trouble your now in.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not at all mad at the fact that they couldn't sell the phone early, I expected that from the first call. I'm pissed at the fact I drove down there and back for NOTHING. Does he/she not understand, we are in the middle of a recession, in Louisiana where there are NO jobs left in my town since the oil field was tanked by the spill. I'm busting ass for just over minimum wage till the work returns, and I attempt to drop 200, plus burn a tank of gass to get this device, and get strung along? ****ers.
Alright Rant Over, I'm ordering from Google, and I'll get over it, but the Houma Park Ave. store will never see me again after buying the Moment and Epic last year, then first thing this year headed to go get the Nexus. Thats 1010.00 in phones in 13 months.
Failure all around... I despise incompetent employees who find it fun to screw customers around.
Hope you have a good radar detector... they (EDIT: they? Who's they? The guy who did it.) should be paying for your gas.
I would say anger management and a new hobby might solve this problem. I'd say "not to sound like a jerk" if I hadn't already, but you need to stop worrying about keeping up with the jones' about phones. They're going to come and go and have their advantages and disadvantages, but freaking out, making a choice to drive a long distance on a longshot that you clearly were sceptical about and then getting nearly irate over the fact that a retail manager got overridden on selling you it while you lolly-gagged on getting the thing you drove over an hour for sounds ridiculous and makes me wonder where your priorities are. (Pardon the atrocious grammar) If you got there and it didn't blow your mind were you going to come here and type a long rant about how Samsung wasted your time making you drive an hour to make a phone you weren't impressed with? Keep working hard, yes, but stop loudly blaming others because you aren;t satisfied and stop getting so worked up that you land yourself at the police station, that's just acting like a child.
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Failure all around... I despise incompetent employees who find it fun to screw customers around.
Hope you have a good radar detector... they (EDIT: they? Who's they? The guy who did it.) should be paying for your gas.
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Valentine 1 Ofcourse I'm covered hwy 90 is a speed trap from texas to mississippi
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Valentine 1 Ofcourse I'm covered hwy 90 is a speed trap from texas to mississippi
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Right on... I'm a Passport 8500 X50 user at the moment, but I'm going to go V1 in the near future, I think. Will go hardware with a mirror mount, should be sweet. And watch out for TXHP next time you're in Texas (esp. on 20)... Those bastards are snipers with their rear-facing instant-on.
Sounds like you got your priorities straight.
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I would say anger management and a new hobby might solve this problem. I'd say "not to sound like a jerk" if I hadn't already, but you need to stop worrying about keeping up with the jones' about phones. They're going to come and go and have their advantages and disadvantages, but freaking out, making a choice to drive a long distance on a longshot that you clearly were sceptical about and then getting nearly irate over the fact that a retail manager got overridden on selling you it while you lolly-gagged on getting the thing you drove over an hour for sounds ridiculous and makes me wonder where your priorities are. (Pardon the atrocious grammar) If you got there and it didn't blow your mind were you going to come here and type a long rant about how Samsung wasted your time making you drive an hour to make a phone you weren't impressed with? Keep working hard, yes, but stop loudly blaming others because you aren;t satisfied and stop getting so worked up that you land yourself at the police station, that's just acting like a child.
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You don't come off as a jerk, I'm just venting here so that's expected that people like you would wonder what's wrong with me. My priorities are where they need to be I own all my possession, don't pay bills sept insurance and phone. I save and splurge on what I want. Driving an hour isn't rediculous when you live in a ghost town in the middle of nowhere and I was making 3 times the money when I got the Moment and Epic. Second part, I wouldn't complain about the S because one thing I do is diligent research on electronics before I buy. I'm still getting it because I want it already knowing I'm downgrading from the Epic seeing as the the S can't record in 720p, lacks a front facing camera, and doesn't even have a stock movie player. Oh forgot you can't unmount the SD and pop in another one. I knew what I was headed there for but I do expect a company be it a retail store or anyone to keep true to their word. That kinda was the point of calling ahead of time....twice. About the police you'd just have to live here to understand, getting in a verbal confrontation with a business owner is a reason to arrest alone, disturbing the peace. I closed my mouth and exited the store, so no childish acts there, I came here to vent instead . But by all means, your entitled to your opinions the matter not to me so I'm not hating on you for your post, **** I expect worse here shortly .
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Second part, I wouldn't complain about the S because one thing I do is diligent research on electronics before I buy. I'm still getting it because I want it already knowing I'm downgrading from the Epic seeing as the the S can't record in 720p, lacks a front facing camera, and doesn't even have a stock movie player. .
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The S definitely has a front facing camera
living in NY this happens to me all the time. been sent from store to store on wild goose chases. i expect to be treated like crap when i have to step into a brick and mortar store these days
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Right on... I'm a Passport 8500 X50 user at the moment, but I'm going to go V1 in the near future, I think. Will go hardware with a mirror mount, should be sweet. And watch out for TXHP next time you're in Texas (esp. on 20)... Those bastards are snipers with their rear-facing instant-on.
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So does LA State Troopers! I know the feeling. I passed on the passport because the only cigarette lighter port is on the side of the driver seat, didn't want that wire hanging across the car, its hardwired into the battery.
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no ****, misinformed. It don't affect me either way on that tho, because I don't use the one on the Epic. The no 720p hurts because I love the video quality but I still will have an Epic to record on!
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You don't come off as a jerk, I'm just venting here so that's expected that people like you would wonder what's wrong with me. My priorities are where they need to be I own all my possession, don't pay bills sept insurance and phone. I save and splurge on what I want. Driving an hour isn't rediculous when you live in a ghost town in the middle of nowhere and I was making 3 times the money when I got the Moment and Epic. Second part, I wouldn't complain about the S because one thing I do is diligent research on electronics before I buy. I'm still getting it because I want it already knowing I'm downgrading from the Epic seeing as the the S can't record in 720p, lacks a front facing camera, and doesn't even have a stock movie player. Oh forgot you can't unmount the SD and pop in another one. I knew what I was headed there for but I do expect a company be it a retail store or anyone to keep true to their word. That kinda was the point of calling ahead of time....twice. About the police you'd just have to live here to understand, getting in a verbal confrontation with a business owner is a reason to arrest alone, disturbing the peace. I closed my mouth and exited the store, so no childish acts there, I came here to vent instead . But by all means, your entitled to your opinions the matter not to me so I'm not hating on you for your post, **** I expect worse here shortly .
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No worries. Was just wondering and your answers all make sense. Points of view and descriptions of regionalism can easily bring things into perspective when high-tuned emotions are no longer driving thought. I still don't trust corporate America if I had 2 phone calls and a signed contract unless I had a million in the bank for legal fees to back my opinion up.
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So does LA State Troopers!
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I'd be more worried about laser with them boys.
First, S2000 is a cute little car. Where you driving with the top off? It would probably cool down your temperature afterward.
Second, I would have pissed all over the store, and take a crap on the table inside manager office (if he/she has one).
Third, I would take off running out the store with the phone.
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No worries. Was just wondering and your answers all make sense. Points of view and descriptions of regionalism can easily bring things into perspective when high-tuned emotions are no longer driving thought. I still don't trust corporate America if I had 2 phone calls and a signed contract unless I had a million in the bank for legal fees to back my opinion up.
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As far as my hobbies, since the decline of the economy, which I don't even much feel but others around me lost everything, android is keeping me sane until I'm allowed to personally feel productive again. I've been into hacking and tweaking the phone and it really give me that since of accomplishment, that's why I'm gadget jumping. I don't plan on stopping development for the Epic to move to the S, I'm planning on adding more options to what IS my hobby. I don't even plan on buying another device after this one. I said plenty times before, when the development phone from Google is supported on Sprint, I'll gladly jump on it. Until now I could only sit back and watch T-moble get the glory. I bought the Epic cause the original S was close but I never expected us to get one. It was like christmas for me.
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First, S2000 is a cute little car. Where you driving with the top off? It would probably cool down your temperature afterward.
Second, I would have pissed all over the store, and take a crap on the table inside manager office (if he/she has one).
Third, I would take off running out the store with the phone.
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LMFAO, much needed smile there! Top down both ways, it's hot as hell in Louisiana right now. Perfect weather before the rain season spoils it.
Must be a requirement
Most of the 3rd party stores have suck ass employees.
They are as clueless as Inspector gadget.
If i really need an answer ,or something done right i go to a" sprint corp store" point blank.
Ok if any 3rd party employees read this, dont take it personal but its true.
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Most of the 3rd party stores have suck ass employees.
They are as clueless as Inspector gadget.
If i really need an answer ,or something done right i go to a" sprint corp store" point blank.
Ok if any 3rd party employees read this, dont take it personal but its true.
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I have to disagree. I realized ever since I've bought a cellphone it has always been from Best Buy and I've always been satisfied with sale, service, and warrantee/guarantees.
humdrum2009 said:
Most of the 3rd party stores have suck ass employees.
They are as clueless as Inspector gadget.
If i really need an answer ,or something done right i go to a" sprint corp store" point blank.
Ok if any 3rd party employees read this, dont take it personal but its true.
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Corporate stores follow the rules strict. The only chance of getting it was a retail store since they "sort of" govern themselves. Awell, 3 more days
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Yay, Louisiana's a ****hole. The one thing you can rely on here is that someone will **** something up and then act like it's your fault.
I can't wait to leave this place.
First let me start off by saying I'm a noob, a virgo, and like taking long walks on the beach LOL. I have been lurking around for the past couple of months and have learned a lot from the great people that like to help and share information. This is indeed a great community of people. This is my first post so if it seems long winded I apologize. Now my reason for my thread title. I live in Phoenix AZ (I know it's a dry heat), I was watching the news tonight and they did a story on the search of cell phones by the police. It seems that in California if you get stopped for anything, traffic ticket, jay walking, ect. and your cell phone is within arms length of you, the officer can ask for your phone and can search through it no search warrant needed! Yes that means anything and everything that is on your phone is free game (I find that a little strange since last year a husband went to court over accessing his wife's email and reading it.) But as the story was told California Supreme court upheld the ruling which again states that any person who comes in contact with a law enforcement officer can have their cell phone "looked at". This means call history, web sites visited, your phone book, and any and all information that is stored on your device. The only catch is that the device has to be within arms reach of the person. I am not a criminal, never even had a traffic ticket, but the thought of someone going through my phone drives me crazy. I keep my phone locked with a passcode, so would that mean that I would have to unlock my device for them to snoop through it? Anyway I found this interesting and I thought that I would share it with anyone who cares. My question is, of all of the talent that is in this community, has there ever been an app made like a "kill all pill", something that with just the touch of a button your device would be reset to factory settings and/or scrub the sd card? Just a thought. Once again thank you for allowing me to gain more knowledge of my device and to share in the community. Keep up the great work!
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First let me start off by saying I'm a noob, a virgo, and like taking long walks on the beach LOL. I have been lurking around for the past couple of months and have learned a lot from the great people that like to help and share information. This is indeed a great community of people. This is my first post so if it seems long winded I apologize. Now my reason for my thread title. I live in Phoenix AZ (I know it's a dry heat), I was watching the news tonight and they did a story on the search of cell phones by the police. It seems that in California if you get stopped for anything, traffic ticket, jay walking, ect. and your cell phone is within arms length of you, the officer can ask for your phone and can search through it no search warrant needed! Yes that means anything and everything that is on your phone is free game (I find that a little strange since last year a husband went to court over accessing his wife's email and reading it.) But as the story was told California Supreme court upheld the ruling which again states that any person who comes in contact with a law enforcement officer can have their cell phone "looked at". This means call history, web sites visited, your phone book, and any and all information that is stored on your device. The only catch is that the device has to be within arms reach of the person. I am not a criminal, never even had a traffic ticket, but the thought of someone going through my phone drives me crazy. I keep my phone locked with a passcode, so would that mean that I would have to unlock my device for them to snoop through it? Anyway I found this interesting and I thought that I would share it with anyone who cares. My question is, of all of the talent that is in this community, has there ever been an app made like a "kill all pill", something that with just the touch of a button your device would be reset to factory settings and/or scrub the sd card? Just a thought. Once again thank you for allowing me to gain more knowledge of my device and to share in the community. Keep up the great work!
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I saw the same report about California on our news.
I have news for you, I will never consider living in that state.
That is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS and a step away from the government having video cameras in your house.
I don't know what you can do exactly.
If you ever get pulled over, send the ***** into your custom recovery and format all.
Scary what this country is turning into.
Just toss the phone in the back seat.
I'd actually be kinda curious about the existence of such an app, also....
Ridiculous is all I can say
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I'd tell them to **** themselves and take them to the supreme court. That's purely unconstitutional.
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One more step in complete government control .... I live in Cali and truth be told if it wasn't for my son(separated parents) I wouldn't even live in this country.
"praise the lord and pass the ammunition"
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I'd tell them to **** themselves and take them to the supreme court. That's purely unconstitutional.
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I completely agree with you but unfortunately in this day and age "unconstitutional" doesn't mean a damned thing.
The Patriot act is "unconstitutional"...
Actually I just decided to NOT list all the things that are "unconstitutional" that are realities, I don't have that kind of time.
This country went to **** years ago
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"Tase me, bro."
*smash*
*I'm assuming this is similar to the 'plug n' pull' (ya like that?) that was mentioned before. If all it takes is smashing the phone to ****, well, I'd do it in a heartbeat. If I just had pr0n on my phone I wouldn't even care. But that never touches my phone. Nor my computer; felt the need to add that. I'm talking serious business. Not that 'phone tapping' couldn't be possible (yes, it can happen to us all) but anything to shut an effort down. I'd even smash my rooted device and give up a chance of rooted glory for all the bull**** that could come of it. I hate cops. I've had some horrible experiences with them in the past. I'm not a 'blah blah f*ck you' to the face anymore, but I don't play that ****. You can instantly tell when a cop is on the push, and usually it is because you are in a bad situation. But some trivial ****? Nah, I don't, and won't, play that.
Keep your phone locked. If they ask for the pass code, tell them no.
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Keep your phone locked. If they ask for the pass code, tell them no.
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I don't think it works like that, provided this was similar to the talk before ... your 'ish' gets plugged in and by some 'miracle super duper government cop pull' they jack any and everything off your phone.
I'd like some clarification though. I haven't seen a link, but this sounds pretty similar to the talk before.
I'd honestly laugh if this was a, "Gimme your phone son. Ok, how do I see your 'texties?'"
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I don't think it works like that, provided this was similar to the talk before ... your 'ish' gets plugged in and by some miracle super duper government cop pull they jack any and everything off your phone.
I'd like some clarification though. I haven't seen a link, but this sounds pretty similar to the talk before.
I'd honeslty laugh if this was a, "Gimme your phone son. Ok, how do I see your 'texties.'"
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They have a device they can hook the phone up to which copies all of the data.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying this sounds like. 'That talk before.'
If you could honestly lock your phone and deny access, well, that's a massive failure on their part. That is what I was saying. It sounds like all that business mentioned a month or two ago.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying this sounds like. 'That talk before.'
If you could honestly lock your phone and deny access, well, that's a massive failure on their part. That is what I was saying. It sounds like all that business mentioned a month or two ago.
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Locking the phone will do nothing.
I suppose you can wipe the phone but, as we all know, the only way to truly destroy data is acid.
Right. If I am remembering correctly it was mentioned as such before. That's what I was saying. I wouldn't be surprised if this was being considered in Illinois. I should make a point of turning my phone off / removing the card everytime we / I get pulled over. Swallow the card if it appears suspect and smash the phone. I'd totally get tasered over as much.*
*tasers aren't that bad*
*yes, for fun
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This is BULL**** !
Im glad I live in Sin City
Just another reason for me to hate living in Cali. I must have missed the report but I remember about a month or so ago some state in the north eastern part of the us displayed a new device just for cell phones that police were beginning to use. Basically it comes with universal plug or what ever and totally scans phone in a matter of seconds. All contents are then stored in said device for further review. files included absolutely everything! Pictures, videos, internet history/cache, emails, call history etc. Welcome to socialism! California is leading the way.
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Just use titanium backup and dropbox. Then if being pulled over just boot to recovery and format all. Might still be able to recover the data though. We need a secure format option.
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Here is the key part:
eddiegaz said:
the officer can ask for your phone and can search through it no search warrant needed!
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Police officers can ask for lots of things. You don't have to give it to them. If an officers asks if he can look in your trunk you can say no, if they ask to come into your house you can say no, if they ask you anything you can remain silent. So if you have something on your phone that you don't want the police to see, just say no when they ask if they can look at it.
I have seen police go to apartments where the neighbor reported that someone was smoking pot. They can smell the pot, but if no one answers the door, or the person who answers does not let them in they can't take any further action.
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Welcome to socialism! California is leading the way.
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While I won't dispute Cali's socialist leanings, this is NOT evidence of it. Evidense of Fascism? Sure is! Socialism? No. There are big differences between communism and socialsim, and both can be facist...but so can democracy. Fascism is the real evil. Socialism and communism are only theoretical evils that tend to die off as time progresses (though either one work very well in small communities. Funny thing: almost any humane fiscal system can work, and work well, on a small scale...it is when one starts dealing with larger societies that the sh1t hits the fan). But this is all far more political than is allowed.
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Here is the key part:
Police officers can ask for lots of things. You don't have to give it to them. If an officers asks if he can look in your trunk you can say no, if they ask to come into your house you can say no, if they ask you anything you can remain silent. So if you have something on your phone that you don't want the police to see, just say no when they ask if they can look at it.
I have seen police go to apartments where the neighbor reported that someone was smoking pot. They can smell the pot, but if no one answers the door, or the person who answers does not let them in they can't take any further action.
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Someone hasn't been paying attention to what is going on
What is "allowed" and what has been actually happening are two completely different things. Wanna see a video of people being body-slammed and tied up for dancing at the Jefferson monument? Minute 2:40 is when they tell someone that they will be arrested for continuing to record.
Here is a news report on the incident