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New pocketPC user. Got the Tilt a couple of days ago. First post, so forgive me. Very PC literate - still learning on the pocketPCs. Testing out ROMs now, thanks to all of you.
When I bought my case (Krusell), I just added on an aftermarket car charger (Fosmon). But I've been reading some of the posts about blown USB ports and a few other issues that seem like they could be power related. As a noob, did a ton of searching on the forum and can't find where anyone has given any opinions about aftermarket chargers. Part of me says stick to HTC or even AT&T brand because they are made for the unit (although an actual HTC is a pain in the ass to find and get shipped to me in Florida for an upcoming trip). Another part says they're all probably made in two factories in China and all I'm doing is paying more than twice as much for the same unit. Just don't want to risk having a problem on my new baby.
Any opinions?
I've been quite happy with my VersaCharger Pro from Boxwave -- works as a wall or car charger, and can put out the 1000 mA the Tilt needs.
Guilf said:
they're all probably made in two factories in China and all I'm doing is paying more than twice as much for the same unit.
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Bingo! I've used Audiovox(HTC), Motorola and Blackberry home chargers, Motorola and no-name car chargers, my work laptop and my home desktop and all have charged my Tilt with no problem at all.
I'm interested in this particular topic too !
It's actually quite hard to get the specs (current in A and voltage in V) for official car chargers ! (and quite hard for many chargers).
The official wall charger gives 1 A and 5 V.
It would seem that you don't find that many mini usb chargers providing 1A.
You can find some on ebay but then most would provide... 5.5 V... could that arm the Kaiser ? I wonder, if anyone's got an idea.
Going for a lower current would mean the charging would be much slower.
Some extra notes about USB car chargers. Usually they will only provide 500mA and you won't have them work well with a regular sync cable (usb <-> mini usb) except if you mod them by welding two pins in the mini usb part (look for more information on the hermes section of this forum).
Today I had someone tell me that the best option for a car is actually an inverter with a home charger plugged into it. They said that Li-Ion and other rechargeables aren't meant to be charged via DC and that's why they sometimes (albeit rarely) brick via car charging. However, an inverter will prevent that. Sounds like BS to me, but I am not knowledgeable at all. Thoughts on this?
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Today I had someone tell me that the best option for a car is actually an inverter with a home charger plugged into it. They said that Li-Ion and other rechargeables aren't meant to be charged via DC and that's why they sometimes (albeit rarely) brick via car charging. However, an inverter will prevent that. Sounds like BS to me, but I am not knowledgeable at all. Thoughts on this?
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I flag BS! The charging circuits for the li-ion batteries are not built into the charger itself. Its built into the device. The purpose of the plug-in chargers is to provide enough current/regulated power to run the device and charger it.
I have had 5 different "cradle" chargers that have failed.
I don't need one that charges the phone or uses as a sync charger.
I just want a standalone separate battery charger. I'd prefer if it plugged directly into the wall instead of via a cable but either works ok I guess
why not have a look on ebay?
J
Can those found on Ebay be considered reliable? I was hoping that maybe someone has already purchased something similar for the Kaiser and wouldn't mind sharing their thoughts and opinions. I would love to have a cradle for my Tilts so I can charge them and their extra battery. However, a simple battery charger would be nice as well.
I bought this cradle and I'm very happy. Working excellent.
HTC also has a cradle/charger, and though it looks much nicer and taking less space, the price is exaggerated.
There is a a battery charger as a stand alone. From the picture the battery is definitely not genuine, but the price worth it even if you'll throw the battery away. I don't know about the reliability of this seller/product though.
I bought this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230228595112 did not receive it yet but looks like what I want. Even though it is only USB but I think I can hook it with a USB wall charger that will also charge it direct
Here's one from Sedio with flip-out AC prongs;
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=948
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There is a a battery charger as a stand alone. From the picture the battery is definitely not genuine, but the price worth it even if you'll throw the battery away. I don't know about the reliability of this seller/product though.
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I bought one from ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250215286540&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015
It was very inexpensive, has flip-out ac prongs, and works great. It arrived in about 10 days from HK.
NetSkipper said:
I bought this cradle and I'm very happy. Working excellent.
Do you know if this cradle can charge the extended battery (the one that is 3000mah)? I asked the ebay seller that you reference the same question and he said that he thinks it can, but he was not sure.
Thanks,
K Crumbley
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kcrumbley, sorry, I don't have the 3000mAh battery so I can't help you.
I bought a 2 pack of these chargers on Woot a while back. They have worked great for me charging spare batteries. Haven't seen them for sale anywhere else (not that I have looked too hard). Highly recommend them if you can find them.
http://www.woot.com/Blog/BlogEntry.aspx?BlogEntryId=2885
NetSkipper said:
I bought this cradle and I'm very happy. Working excellent.
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And then:
kcrumbley said:
Do you know if this cradle can charge the extended battery (the one that is 3000mah)? I asked the ebay seller that you reference the same question and he said that he thinks it can, but he was not sure.
Thanks,
K Crumbley
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I have one of those cradles as well and aside from having to do a little 'pin tweaking' with a pair of needle nose pliers (to get the cradle pins to line up with the battery contacts) it works fine. I bought it as a bundle with a spare 1350 mAh battery as well but since the larger capacity batteries still have the same contacts and basic sizes apart from thickness (after all they do fit in the same phone as a standard thickness battery) the higher capacity battery should fit fine. It'll just take longer to charge.
I purchased the Seido charger and it did not work, nor did the replacement they sent. The problem with the design is that it is a universal charger that has inserts for different batteries. Unfortunately the tolerances are not tight and the insert has trouble making contact with the main charger.
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=948
Since AT&T no longer supports the Tilt i can't buy an original car charger from them anymore. The one i have no longer works, and from what i've gathered across the intarwebz is that unless you have a factory original car charger or l33t soldering skills, you don't get to have a car charger anymore. Is this right?
Since i don't own a soldering gun, is there a car charger that will work guaranteed? I checked HTC's site and it looks like they are just selling cheap aftermarket generic car chargers.
ANy help would be appreciated.
Thanx Snow
i just got mine from seidio in a combo bundle, no problems for me
How long have you had yours Gelf? Mine worked great initially, then one day i noticed it wasn't charging at all.
Car Charger
I am using a car charger from a Blackberry. If fact, my wall chrager is also from Blackberry. Had them left over from the old days.
Never have any problems.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/4072.htm
I have one of these, it's a genuine one and charges as well as a wall charger.
My mini USB connector is knackered after I tried to re-set my phone by jamming the stylus in it, so now I have to wiggle it to get it to charge.
Any mini usb charger will work. depending on the volts it may take longer to charge. I sell them all day at Radio Shack and use it for my tilt. just a generic one will do
Don't go cheap on these -- I had a cheap one that fried a device.
I currently use this Belkin...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FB578I
includes a 1-amp quick-charge port and a standard 500mAh port
Im lucky i have a USB port on my stereo and i just use a standard mini usb cable to charge my phone, otherwise i use any motorola USB charger and i have nvr had a problem with any of those.
There are threads around about car chargers for Kaiser - search is always good. The general opinion seems to be that non HTC chargers can be unreliable. I've tried a few that sometimes charged and sometimes didn't. Often they would charge for a few mnutes then stop. Rarely seem to charge with GPS running, they just don't seem able to supply the power needed. However I bought a 'genuine' HTC charger from ebay and it's been working great for months. They're still available for aound $AUS20. I think it's worth trying to find one that states 1 amp output from memory. In fact, think I'll buy another now just in case they disappear! Can't remember exactly who it came from though.
drmc said:
There are threads around about car chargers for Kaiser - search is always good. The general opinion seems to be that non HTC chargers can be unreliable. I've tried a few that sometimes charged and sometimes didn't. Often they would charge for a few mnutes then stop. Rarely seem to charge with GPS running, they just don't seem able to supply the power needed. However I bought a 'genuine' HTC charger from ebay and it's been working great for months. They're still available for aound $AUS20. I think it's worth trying to find one that states 1 amp output from memory. In fact, think I'll buy another now just in case they disappear! Can't remember exactly who it came from though.
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Yup yup. Go HTC if you want reliability. I had a 'Tesco Value' one that showed it was charging but I could never work out why my battery was dying. I found an app that logs the mA charge or discharge rate and that told it's own story; when the Kaiser is working hard - GPS, bluetooth and a couple of apps running it can be pulling well over 500mA. Spend the money, it's worth it.
I got a phillips car charger from Asda for £5. Has tips for most types of phone including mini-usb. Charges my kaiser fine.
Hi,
I always answer the same when I see this kind of demand: buy the official HTC one, it cost something like 10 euros in the EU (probably 10-15 $), and you'll have no problem (see a previous post here).
I had a cheap one, it was a no-go. ince then it's perfect.
deuzeff said:
Hi,
I always answer the same when I see this kind of demand: buy the official HTC one, it cost something like 10 euros in the EU (probably 10-15 $), and you'll have no problem (see a previous post here).
I had a cheap one, it was a no-go. ince then it's perfect.
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Agreed. The official charger has worked very well for me. Got mine here. Mailed same day and Priority Mail. Have ordered a number of things from them and highly recommend.
I use a motorola v3x car charger
Thanks for the help with alternate ideas and places to look at for buying an official adapter. I'll look around.
I bought a generic one off of Amazon and that worked for about 3 days and then it stopped charging as well. I hope that i can find a solid alternative.
And for anyone who mentioned that i should use the search or off handedly implied that i did not search. You should really stop with that behaviour. It makes you sound like a pompous clown and doesn't add anything of value to this thread or to this site for that matter. For those that provided valuable input, thank you very much for your time and consideration.
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And for anyone who mentioned that i should use the search or off handedly implied that i did not search. You should really stop with that behaviour. It makes you sound like a pompous clown and doesn't add anything of value to this thread or to this site for that matter. For those that provided valuable input, thank you very much for your time and consideration.
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Apologies if my comment sounded rude, it was simply meant to alert you to the fact that there are many threads on this topic that may help and you didn't mention that you have searched already. I know the search function on these large boards is less than efficient and can be frustrating. It's a good idea to mention that you've searched as many people don't bother. For starters, the following threads are related to this issue and have more info than this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406771
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274665
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382081
Personally I only reply to questions if I think I can help and because I've had so much help from others, not because I have nothing better to do.
all i have to say is, i'm SURE theres a charging circuit built in that will not allow it to charge at too high of a rate in mA's, the OEM one is fairly high (like 850 or 1a as some have said) although i've had fine luck using pretty much anything, i use a mini-usb cable attached to a computer to charge most of the time, the USB standard will allow a max of 500mAh, so it takes longer, but whatever, i have also used Mot. V3 chargers for a long time with fine luck, really the only one i have that doesnt work is my bluetooth headset charger, and its mini-usb but its rated for an output of 350mA!
I had similar problems with my Kaiser. For almost a year it would charge with car charger then it stopped. It would charge fine on AC and computer USB but not in the car.
If you look inside the USB port on the phone at the bottom are two little tabs/fingers. They need to be lifted up to make contact with the charger. I took a dental tool and slightly lifted them so they make better contact with charger plug.
Also make sure that the plastic inside the usb on the phone is not curved or bent as some of the pins will then not touch then. I straightend out the plastic tab inside the USB with a small screwdriver and then made sure that the little grounding legs were bent up a bit and bingo it works.
I use a Motorola charger as well in the car and it worked fine for Blackberry and other phones I checked so I knew the issue was in the phone.
Buying a new charger may not solve the problem if its in the phone. Thanks to those who posted their findings as after I searched I was able to peice together a few ideas that worked.
go to ur local office supply and get one of those cigarette usb chargers (mine is for an HP Ipaq I used to have) and use your data cable ... it works fine
zelendel said:
Any mini usb charger will work. depending on the volts it may take longer to charge. I sell them all day at Radio Shack and use it for my tilt. just a generic one will do
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hmm Scary!
Hi you guys, I lost my original charger on a coffee shop and I ordered one on ebay, It came today but Im afraid it is not the same model than the original one (I have the wrap of the original one on my box). Since I cant compare this one with the original one, would you please confirm that this one will work all right on my phone with the following specs:
Input: 100-240v 50/60hz 0.2A
Output: 5.1V, 0.7A
Thank you in advance for your help.
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Hi you guys, I lost my original charger on a coffee shop and I ordered one on ebay, It came today but Im afraid it is not the same model than the original one (I have the wrap of the original one on my box). Since I cant compare this one with the original one, would you please confirm that this one will work all right on my phone with the following specs:
Input: 100-240v 50/60hz 0.2A
Output: 5.1V, 0.7A
Thank you in advance for your help.
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I would be more concerned with whether or not it would transfer files. The only one I have that works is the original.
I use LG chargers I have in the office and at home and they work flawlessly. Same specs as the one you have.
I'm using an old Nokia n86 usb cable and it connects just fine.
OP, charger doesn't make that much of a difference. The phone will only "accept" the current it needs, not more.
Thank you guys, I was worried about damaging its battery and since it is noy removable... I read somewhere that "underated" chargers damage batteries because they not "feed" as much energy as the battery needs.
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Thank you guys, I was worried about damaging its battery and since it is noy removable... I read somewhere that "underated" chargers damage batteries because they not "feed" as much energy as the battery needs.
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The general rule of thumb is that a battery will last longer when it's charged slowly.This generates less heat puts less stress on the battery. Batteries are unique in the sense that they can slowly discharge energy, whereas capacitors can rapidly charge and discharge. With that said, I believe you run a greater risk of damaging your battery with a high amperage "rapid charger" vs. a lower amperage charger. It may take longer to charge, but your battery will thank you. I don't believe you run a risk using the lower amperage charger, but you may outpace your usage vs. the charge that is made on your phone.
First, I'm new to Qi charging, so please forgive (and correct) any mistaken assumptions I might have!
Anyways, based on the Budget Wireless Charger Showdown: 5 Qi Chargers all $11 - $15 shootout in the Nexus 5 forum, I decided to purchase a few Qi chargers. I received them and tested them with my friend's Nexus 5, confirming that wireless charging worked. Pretty neat!
A few weeks later, my Galaxy S5 wireless charging back FINALLY came in. I put it on my phone, put the phone on the charger, and nothing. I tried all the chargers, no luck. Nothing charged. But the Nexus 5 charged just fine. Assuming it was defective, I returned the charging back and ordered another one. Same thing. My phone doesn't charge on these chargers. The backs are both official Samsung accessories, bearing the Qi logo.
Is it incorrect for me to assume that all Qi charging backs will charge all Qi phones? Could my phone be defective? Any troubleshooting ideas?
Regardless, I'd love a recommendation for an inexpensive Qi charging back for my Galaxy S5. I'm going to need 3 or 4 of them.
Thanks!
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First, I'm new to Qi charging, so please forgive (and correct) any mistaken assumptions I might have!
Anyways, based on the Budget Wireless Charger Showdown: 5 Qi Chargers all $11 - $15 shootout in the Nexus 5 forum, I decided to purchase a few Qi chargers. I received them and tested them with my friend's Nexus 5, confirming that wireless charging worked. Pretty neat!
A few weeks later, my Galaxy S5 wireless charging back FINALLY came in. I put it on my phone, put the phone on the charger, and nothing. I tried all the chargers, no luck. Nothing charged. But the Nexus 5 charged just fine. Assuming it was defective, I returned the charging back and ordered another one. Same thing. My phone doesn't charge on these chargers. The backs are both official Samsung accessories, bearing the Qi logo.
Is it incorrect for me to assume that all Qi charging backs will charge all Qi phones? Could my phone be defective? Any troubleshooting ideas?
Regardless, I'd love a recommendation for an inexpensive Qi charging back for my Galaxy S5. I'm going to need 3 or 4 of them.
Thanks!
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This thread may be of interest....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776884&page=3
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This thread may be of interest....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776884&page=3
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Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, the Qi charger you posted there costs nearly $50. Did the price go up?
Also, the photos of that unit look identical to the chargers I've bought (that don't work). I wonder if they're the same or different internally... Hmmn.
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Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, the Qi charger you posted there costs nearly $50. Did the price go up?
Also, the photos of that unit look identical to the chargers I've bought (that don't work). I wonder if they're the same or different internally... Hmmn.
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Geez.. That was $18.90 when I posted it last week. There must have been a run on them.
They were a good source because they were in New York most of the other sellers of this model are in China.
Edit: They're selling the White pad for $17.95
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/171314555159?lpid=82