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I have had problems with my hero (the only issue mind you) where sometimes my memory card will corrupt if I turn off my phone - for example overnight or to reset the ram etc ... has happened twice
only big things I have on my memory card is co pilot and spotify (which has offline files on it)
can anyone help - is my hero faulty or is does it happen to anyone else ?
great phone apart from this !!
Not a problem with your Phone.
The problem is with your wallet.
Applications such as Co-Pilot and Spotify use data from the memory card a lot.
Mass transfer on a low grade memory card kills it.
you can use a grade 2 for music and photos but go above grade 4 if using co Pilot.
I know the Grade is normally used for speed but also seems to be for reliability.
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thanks for reply - the 8gb im using is a sandisk ,..... what would you suggest ??
how do you tell if a card is grade 2 or 4 ??
thanks in advance
chris
well ive learned something new, never knew that memory cards had this rating ... my card is type 2 .. just ordered a type 4 off ebay .. hopefully the issue wont occur when i get my new card
thank you for your help kindest regards
chris
Lets hope the grade 4 works better for you
for anyone reading this. the grade is in a little circle after the word sandisk.
I agree with iammodo, nearly a year ago when I got my G2 Touch, I bought a 8GB Sandisk Class 6 from Play.com (£19.99), it worked perfectly and seemed to speed-up any memory card intensive apps or processes, but I took it out for use on another device and bought a class 2 8GB, didn't look worse at first, but then problems started occuring after days of use, sloweness, random corrupts, it even corrupts if I mount it or put the phone off for example.
I recently bought the Class 6 8GB from Play.com and I haven't experienced the problems again.
This is my experience, and probably won't happen to someone else, but at least moving back to Class 6 seemed to fix most of the problems.
I'll probably never buy a Class 2 again, I always go for the highest spec in a memory card anyways. Saving up for a 32GB soon, are there Class 6 versions? If not, I'll wait.
So I got this sd card from Newegg the other day and it has been a pain. FIrst loaded it up and formatted it and got everything situated and ran into a problem losing info. Card borked a little over a gig of space and waffled down to 14.9gb. Reformatted and got everything set when out come iced glacier 1.1.5.1 so I reflash and forget to wipe!
Had to reformat the phone because long story short, for some reason when I booted into hboot I couldn't get it select recovery. AFter an hour and a half of trying to get it to do anything other than load PD15IMG.zip I had to fully restore.
Finally got everything set back up and rooted and WIPED and flashed newest Iced Glacier and a few hours later my SD card won't mount! Says it's blank or unsupported file format. Pull it out of the phone and the computer won't even recognize it without formatting it! Gone! Zapped! ERASED! EVERYTHING!!!
So I just reformatted the card and stuck it back in the phone and flashed Iced Glacier again without a wipe and seems to be okay.
But, Is anyone else having any issues with the Wintec class 10 cards like this? It seems awfully fragile and really not worth it if this is how it is going to act!
Any thoughts or suggestions or similar stories?
Thanks for all the responses of help and support...not even a response saying you haven't heard anything...I did an RMA with Newegg for a new card.
Maybe I should have asked a question that the answer to is readily available if I searched first...at least then I would have gotten a response telling me to search.
yeah, my card crashed again last night for the third time! not sure what's going on... whether it's just the card, whether i'm overclocking, etc... thankfully i backed up a couple of days ago and was able to retrieve some of the pics/vids that weren't backed up. i'm at a loss for words here. should i spend the money for a more reputable brand? can our phones actually handle these class 10 cards? i'm up for answers/suggestions...
I have a the same card in my MT4G for the past month or so and it works fine. It is almost totally full too, only about 300mb free.
Benefit of class 10?
Why would you need a class 10 for a smartphone? We don't take super high pixel count pics in fast progression and we're not recording 1080p movies or slow mo 1000fps video. I'm seriously asking because I don't know if I need to get a new card.
When I jumped to a 16GB card, I was looking for a class 10 but then settled on a class 4. I even used a class 2 from an older device for a while with slowdown noticed only when transferring >1GB ripped movies.
We don't "need" and as a matter of fact we under-utilize a class 10 card. I was just able to get one cheaper than a class 6 so I did.
I don't think th OC'ing has anything to do with it because that is all internal and almost nothing to do with the sd card.
I'm thinking we just got what we paid for with this particular card. Seems to be very hit and miss.
From what I understand, class 6 will actually perform better than 8 or higher in most situations on a smartphone. Class 8 and above has some optimizations for sequential access that end up slowing down random access. On a camera this makes sense, on a phone not so much.
This arrived today from Amazon and good transfer speeds: 10MB/s write 20MB/s read via USB reader but much slower via phone connected over mass storage.
Everything transferred fine but now sense is very slow after boot up and when I scroll to another tab, sense hangs. Very disappointing. I'm running Dutty's V14 which is close evolution of the V3 ROM.
airwater9 said:
This arrived today from Amazon and good transfer speeds: 10MB/s write 20MB/s read via USB reader but much slower via phone connected over mass storage.
Everything transferred fine but now sense is very slow after boot up and when I scroll to another tab, sense hangs. Very disappointing. I'm running Dutty's V14 which is close evolution of the V3 ROM.
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when i compare 8G class 4 vs 16G class 4, 16G will make my phone sluggish. does bigger size make it slower?
Not sure about that. Perhaps after start up if you've added lots more media and the phone has to index it all.
After some more testing the phone seems to work normally if I insert my 16GB card while the phone is booting and swap it for the 32GB Lexar once loading is done. I can then fly around sense with the card indexed correctly without the problems.
What could be the issue with booting the phone with the 32GB card inserted?
format the card, under sector allocation size, check the largest size, probably 64kb.
greatly increase speed for transfers and random access.
How are you getting it from Amazon when it "Usually ships within 1 to 2 months"
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How are you getting it from Amazon when it "Usually ships within 1 to 2 months"
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They did say it was in stock the other day when I had a look, he probably managed to get it before they ran out.
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They did say it was in stock the other day when I had a look, he probably managed to get it before they ran out.
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I've been eyeing that listing for the last few weeks (a few times a day) and every time it says "usually ships within 1 or 2 months." I guess the OP got really lucky then.
On the other hand, I saw Patriot selling a class 10 32gb micro sd for under $100.
Must have been very lucky yeah, it was in stock on Saturday, that's all I can remember lol.
I ended up going for a Kingston 32GB Class 4 card, was only £29.99. Seems too good to be true but I figured for that price it was worth a shot!
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I've been eyeing that listing for the last few weeks (a few times a day) and every time it says "usually ships within 1 or 2 months." I guess the OP got really lucky then.
On the other hand, I saw Patriot selling a class 10 32gb micro sd for under $100.
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... or you could just stop by Hong Kong and buy it there. I picked up the genuine lexar 32gb class 10 for about 92 USD (720 HKD) last week Haven't tried using it yet in my HD2 yet, but probably will so I can try dualboot WP7 and Android
Yes I got one when I ordered and it was back ordered without any indication of time lines. Now they've put a couple of months on it for some reason.
Anyway, back to the topic. Why isn't my phone working with 32GB microSD card? I had a similar problem with my Sandisk (used with stock v1.66 ROM) and bought this Lexar hoping it would be ok with my phone. Any ideas? Tried reformatting it using the phone utility for compatibility reasons.
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when i compare 8G class 4 vs 16G class 4, 16G will make my phone sluggish. does bigger size make it slower?
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Absolutely not. Size doesn't affect the speed and neither does class. The only time you'll notice speed differences between classes is when you transfer media to or from the card while it's *NOT* in the phone. Otherwise they're all the same even though people say it feels faster/slower.
A little more info - I've found a way to get sense to semi behave like normal.
Once the phone boots I have to leave it for 3 or 4 minutes while the phone is very sluggish and not scroll or use sense (else it crashes) and after 3 or 4 minutes it then settles down and seems to act as usual. Except that for some reason the photos on the Footprints tab are all whited out.
Try reflashing a clean new ROM. I was using LeeDrOiD HD 1.5.1 and had loaded a bunch of apps and games on my Desire HD and sense got sluggish scrolling between screens. Now I've loaded LeeDrOiD HD 2.0.0 ROM with his latest kernal and loaded back more than 90% of my games/apps/widgets and the phone scrolls through home screens without a hitch. I kept everything the same on my MicroSD card I only reflashed the ROM and did a complete factory wipe in Clockwork Recovery.
I'd recommend to a Nandroid backup of your current ROM in Clockwork Recovery, then after that do the Clockwork Recovery factory wipe and flash a new clean custom ROM or Stock ROM. See if you are now getting much better speeds. If not just Wipe again in Clockwork and restore your backup then look for other options. If you still have slow speeds maybe try copy everything off the MicroSD card to your PC then reformat the card and copy everything back.
So, due to great confusion, I'm sitting here with an unopened Sandisk Class 2 32GB card, a Lexar Class 10 32GB Card and, arriving tomorrow, a Sandisk Class 4 32GB card.
What's the consensus from those who already have the Lexar MicroSDHC card? Should I open and install or wait for the class 4 ?
(Running Android NAND)
I used a sandisk 8gb class 4 when I first installed wp7 but I thought I should make a dual boot and I bought a samsung 32gb class 10 microsdhc.
wp7 couldn't load and I got a message the memory card wasn't compatible...
right now I use android and everything works like a charm but I would love to do that dual boot.
I there anyway to fix that except buying a new card?
format card with SDFormatter v3.0, insert to phone and do hard reset with Volume Up and Down together and power up... maybe not help but you can try...
i use Sandisk 32 gb class 2 and card is very fast and stable under WP7, faster than Sandisk 8g class4 from original HTC 7 Pro device
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I used a sandisk 8gb class 4 when I first installed wp7 but I thought I should make a dual boot and I bought a samsung 32gb class 10 microsdhc.
wp7 couldn't load and I got a message the memory card wasn't compatible...
right now I use android and everything works like a charm but I would love to do that dual boot.
I there anyway to fix that except buying a new card?
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There is a huge amount of info out there on what cards to buy, but none of it is 100%, it still might not work, and going for a class 10 card was probably the big mistake, dont get me wrong, some folk have them working, but generally WP7 tends to like class 2/4 and potentially 6 the best, its believed its to do with random access speeds which are usually lower on higher class devices
tthere has been some development with cards that install but sometimes reboot, some small reg tweaks have had a positive effect, but cards that do not work at all is going to be very unlikely to get working. you can format it all you like but the installer will clear all partition tables and set new partitions up, meaning it wont make much if any difference.
ive spent all week looking at new cards, crystal disk mark seems to be a good judge, but if you dig through the net at revews and forums you'll see why its very much hit or miss, the bench marks are all different. Bt the more you look at and the more a given card looks ok, the higher the chances of it working. Ill tell you saturday if mines any good, but i physically couldnt do any more in identifying a working card, so its an educated guess
in answer to your question, no, you need to install WP7 first, then partition it and install SD android, so unless you can get WP working you'll not dual boot them, send the card back, say it wasnt working with your camera or something
I was just wondering how many of you have had problems/success with the adoptable storage. I have had two Moto x pures and both have messed up memory cards. I have lost 3 cards total that I could not access even when I tried from my PC. If you have had success I would love to know what card you are using. I've used a SanDisk ultra 64gb. A Samsung Evo 32gb and a lexar 32gb. The blue and gray ones. I'm not sure what the model was. All three of those are dead now pretty much because I can't access them.
What have you done to kill them? Are you rooted and flashing Roms or is this with the stock rom and no root? If the later do they just fail randomly or is there a specific trigger?
Running completely stock. No root. No Roms. I've never flashed anything on these particular phones. I never saw anything in common when the memory cards stopped working. It would just say the memory card was removed and then I would not be able to access it or anything stored on. When I would insert it into the computer it would say I needed to format the card.
Adopted storage puts a lot of stress on SD cards, unofficially even Motorola recommends against it (look in the Lenovo Support forums, several Motorola representatives recommend not to use adopted storage if you can get away with it). The problem is consumer microSD cards are not intended for constant read/write use that adopted storage puts the card though, thus they fail much earlier than "typical" usage situations. Again, this varies by card and it's quality, some will go a very long time, others not so much.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-X...ard-Portable-or-Internal-storage/td-p/3536596
Did you then format the card and test it? Either the card failed due to read write degrading it or it really lost connection and that damaged the file structure.
It may just be the file system not recognised by Windows. Use a low level SD card formatting tool and check after doing a full format.
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An SDcard formatted for adoptable storage is encrypted and won't be readable on your computer.
Also, there are a bunch of counterfeit cards for sale these days. They work, sort-of. They're 4-gig cards modified to report a higher capacity. Once you put too much data on them, the filesystem can get corrupted.
Even if the cards are good, I've had nothing but issues with adoptable storage. I've only used it on a Moto E with 4 gigs of storage. My Moto X uses portable storage, and I've had no issues.
Adoptable storage for the most part had been a failure in my opinion. Some OEMs disable the function, such as Samsung. If you read around, you see many bad stories about the storage as well. Granted some people like it, but it is just not worth it all things considered. Personally, I think the original concept of saving select apps to the sd card worked better. If the app performance was poor, you could move it to internal. Would love to see that option come back.
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I used apptosd for years and it worked well.
So I guess next time I should just get a phone with more internal memory. I figured since I already had memory cards and adoptable storage was an option I could just save some cash and get the 16gb phone. I'm still hoping someone shares a positive story and what memory card they are using with success.
Me and my wife both had our 1st cards ruined in the Moto x pure. I don't remember the brand but since off eBay they could have easily been knockoffs. Wasn't using them as addoptive storage. I am now. PC would not recognize them. There are programs that I have had success with for free on PC to retrieve your photos from the cards even though the PC doesn't read them
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Me and my wife both had our 1st cards ruined in the Moto x pure. I don't remember the brand but since off eBay they could have easily been knockoffs. Wasn't using them as addoptive storage. I am now. PC would not recognize them. There are programs that I have had success with for free on PC to retrieve your photos from the cards even though the PC doesn't read them
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In my personal preference, I back up my photos to a PC monthly. But just to be sure I lose very little should my card go south, I use Google photos to backup while charging and on wifi. The unlimited option for photos means a slight reduction in size, but I also have peace of mind that I will still have them.
I was using adoptable storage for about a year in my old moto e lte without issues (sandisk 16gb), it was working great although I wasn't moving any apps to card. One time when I messed something up (definitely it was my fault) I couldn't acces my card but all I had to do was to put card into sd card reader and format it using partition wizard (you have to delete partitions that windows can't acces on it's own).
I have noticed my phone seems a bit slower launching some apps since I started adopted storage. Maybe an extra second to launch so it doesn't bother me. I am using am emtec u1 class 10 gold card. I don't know anything about the brand and am almost embarrassed to admit that I bought it at the hardware store lol
I have been using a SanDisk Ultra 32gb for 6 months without issue on stock non- rooted ROM. I don't take many pictures so no big deal for me if it gets corrupted. Amazon has the SanDisk 64gb Ultra for $16.00. Sadly I have the 16gb Pure.
I have the 16gb version with a Sandisk UHC-1 64gb as adoptable storage for about 2 months. Haven't had any issues so far and I moved the majority of my apps to the sd. Also haven't noticed any significant delay or performance impact either. I'm a casual user, no games or heavy demanding apps installed.