I am going to buy a shift and I was curious if anyone can say with certainty if there is any REAL differences (other than the cellular modem types, the cover on the x9000, and color) between the two versions.
I've heard some people say the build quality is "supposedly better" with the x9000 while others have said that they are both equal. I've also heard that there are some x9500's that have English keyboards, which would be ideal.
Thanks in advance!
I am new to the HTC D2 and in reading all of the threads I dont understand the difference between the LEO and the D2 and someone please explain.
The T-Mobile HD2 is the Leo. Same phone,
Full Name for the device is HTC HD2 T8585 (HTC Leo 100)
The T-Mobile US HD2 is also known as the LEO1024, since it has a full gig of ROM memory. The Euro HD2 is known as just the Leo, or the LEO512, and obviously has half the memory. The US model is also just a tiny bit (1.5mm) longer, so cases and other accessories will fit one model or the other, but usually not both.
Most apps and such will work on either version, but you can NOT flash ROM's or Radios for the Euro model onto the US model, or you'll brick it.
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thanks for the information
Is there an reason for this, meaning why do they have twice as much memory as the EU one?
lemonbarley said:
Is there an reason for this, meaning why do they have twice as much memory as the EU one?
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because t mo knew that it would cause extra media attention, and loads
of extra people would buy it simply cos they would perceive it to be "better", cos people are fickle, shallow and easily led. it made it "special".
my guess is they are regretting it, because its much easier to brick than the normal one, and putting into the hands of the afforementioned people will have generated a ton of warranty returns.(plus the stock tmous roms had several issues to begin with, which also caused returns and bad press)
samsamuel said:
because t mo knew that it would cause extra media attention, and loads
of extra people would buy it simply cos they would perceive it to be "better", cos people are fickle, shallow and easily led. it made it "special".
my guess is they are regretting it, because its much easier to brick than the normal one, and putting into the hands of the afforementioned people will have generated a ton of warranty returns.(plus the stock tmous roms had several issues to begin with, which also caused returns and bad press)
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LOL that's sam's gentle way of saying that 'mericans are suckers for "mor iz bettur"
lmao, ten years ago id have said exactly that word for word, but now it seems its become a global phenomenon. think less, demand more, give up your freedom in exchange for government hand holding and shiney! shiney! new! tings! to buy,,,,,, or maybe im just cynical.
**EDIT** This thread is about the Chinese SM-N9006 ONLY.
I just picked up this phone last weekend, (imgur.com/Js8e4FI or see "deviceinfo.png" below), which seems to be similar to all the other Chinese N9006s out there, but after further examination, I'm not so sure.
I rooted it with Framaroot and checked it with a new version of Antutu, (I think I had one of the adjusted versions before), and CPU Identifier, and it showed a very different processor than the others I've seen online. (imgur.com/caapx2o or see "cpu identifier.png" below)
Evidently, the Quad-core 1.2Ghz MTK6589 is actually a dual-core MT6572 which I'm not sure even uses both cores.
I'm not that surprised about that, but I am surprised that the RAM seems to actually be close to 3GB! When I check the running apps tab it shows almost 3GB total RAM, (imgur.com/7B4jFRx or see "running apps.png" below), which is backed up by both Antutu, (imgur.com/0OMilGl or see "antutu.png" below), and CPU Identifier.
So, have they made a new N9006? One with a crappier processor but more RAM? It only got an Antutu score of 8115, but it seems to run relatively quickly. The main reason I'm curious is that I want to be able to try out other roms, but I'm not sure I can trust anything from this phone to figure out which roms are safe for it. I'm not sure that it's even correctly reporting the rom info you can see in the device info picture.
In case you can't see the device info, this phone seems to have: (This is all the info I've been able to scrounge up from this phone)
Star Note3 n9006
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Cortex-ARM7
Adreno 330 GPU
MT6572 x2 1.3GHZ
Model Number: SM-N9006
Android Version: 4.3
Baseband Version: N9006ZCUBMI3
Kernal version: 3.4.0-1590669 [email protected]#1 Thu Nov 7 10:38:17 CST 2013
Build Number: JSS15J.N9006ZCUBMI5
Custom build version: i7208.pip.02.02.a.a-v0.0.9b1107
Supposedly, I can be sure of the rom info from booting into factory mode, (power + vol. down), but I'm getting the same menu in Chinese that others have gotten.
Factory Mode menu (sorry about the quality): (imgur.com/ivDFE4s or see "screencrap.png" below)
Does anyone know what the options are in that menu, or how to change the menu to English, OR another way to get the rom info from the bootup screens? Thanks!
MediaTek Cpu ?? impossible i guess you got a Chinese knock off
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MediaTek Cpu ?? impossible i guess you got a Chinese knock off
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Yup, I know it's a knockoff, I identify it as a Chinese model in my first sentence. That's why I'm not surprised that the specs are faked. Even after rooting it, deleting the un-upgradeable version of Antutu they had locked on it (I'd heard about the "adjusted" versions), and installing a new version of Antutu, it is still faking the processor.
I'm not sure any info can be trusted from the current rom on this phone, which is one reason why I want to figure out which roms are safe for it.
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Yup, I know it's a knockoff, I identify it as a Chinese model in my first sentence. That's why I'm not surprised that the specs are faked. Even after rooting it, deleting the un-upgradeable version of Antutu they had locked on it (I'd heard about the "adjusted" versions), and installing a new version of Antutu, it is still faking the processor.
I'm not sure any info can be trusted from the current rom on this phone, which is one reason why I want to figure out which roms are safe for it.
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There are not ANY ROMs other than the one it shipped with which are safe for it. If you tried to flash a real stock or custom Note 3 ROM onto it, it probably wouldn't flash at all, and if it did, it would brick the device.
Stephandroid said:
I just picked up this phone last weekend, (imgur.com/Js8e4FI or see "deviceinfo.png" below), which seems to be similar to all the other Chinese N9006s out there, but after further examination, I'm not so sure.
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First of all - in the world there ARE true Samsung N9006 Note 3 phones - which are completely different devices! So your phone is NOT a Samsung N9006, so it can't be referred to as a "new N9006". At most you can say it is a new fake N9006.
And regarding the RAM - the problem is that even on real N9005 you don't have close to 3GB RAM reported, you only get listed about 2499 MB or so, the rest is mapped to video/3D and similar stuff and does not get listed. The fact that 3000 MB are listed seems to suggest that in the kernel there is another hack so it reports much more than reality.
Also the screen captures suggest that the real screen is nowhere near 1920x1080 so that info also seems to be faked
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First of all - in the world there ARE true Samsung N9006 Note 3 phones - which are completely different devices! So your phone is NOT a Samsung N9006, so it can't be referred to as a "new N9006". At most you can say it is a new fake N9006.
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Sorry for the confusion, the only discussions I've seen on xda which refer to the N9006 are in reference to the Chinese version. I've changed the title accordingly.
I agree with you that the resolution is definitely faked, as well as the RAM. Are there any apps that can accurately judge the true amount of RAM? Antutu gives a RAM Operation score of 435, and a speed score of 712, but I'm not sure how that corresponds into real world amounts.
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There are not ANY ROMs other than the one it shipped with which are safe for it. If you tried to flash a real stock or custom Note 3 ROM onto it, it probably wouldn't flash at all, and if it did, it would brick the device.
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If there is success with any of the attempts being made, I want to know if my phone is the same as theirs. There are threads which reference another Chinese version where attempts are being made. (I'm not allowed to link URLs yet but you can cut and paste: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460126 forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495375)
With the increasing interest in the Chinese versions, even if there isn't one now, I'm sure there'll be one eventually. That's why I'm interested in finding out how to gain info about the rom I'm using. Even if I don't change roms, it would be nice to see the real specs of the phone, and be able to use some things like Xposed.
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Sorry for the confusion, the only discussions I've seen on xda which refer to the N9006 are in reference to the Chinese version. I've changed the title accordingly.
I agree with you that the resolution is definitely faked, as well as the RAM. Are there any apps that can accurately judge the true amount of RAM? Antutu gives a RAM Operation score of 435, and a speed score of 712, but I'm not sure how that corresponds into real world amounts.
If there is success with any of the attempts being made, I want to know if my phone is the same as theirs. There are threads which reference another Chinese version where attempts are being made. (I'm not allowed to link URLs yet but you can cut and paste: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460126 forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495375)
With the increasing interest in the Chinese versions, even if there isn't one now, I'm sure there'll be one eventually. That's why I'm interested in finding out how to gain info about the rom I'm using. Even if I don't change roms, it would be nice to see the real specs of the phone, and be able to use some things like Xposed.
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The point is that real Samsung firmware won't work on a clone. The real Samsung devices don't use the same chipset as the clones do.
You're phone is not a Chinese Version, the chinese versions are made by Samsung.
your phone is a copy product.
There is a real chinese note 3 SM-9006 made by Samsung...what you have is just a crapy copy made in some backyard factory. STOP thinking you have anything else. Just be happy that it can even make a phone call.
Teleported from my SM-N9005 from the Enterprise
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**EDIT** This thread is about the Chinese SM-N9006 ONLY.
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A number of people including myself already told you - this is NOT a SM-N9006!
Searching for the CPU and resolution will get you to one of the appropriate threads (or you can start yourself one BUT NOT IN ANY NOTE 3 FORUM)
Here is for instance one about the fakes with MTK6589 and I believe 1280x720:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460620
This one seems closer to what you have:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549036
Search around http://forum.xda-developers.com/android there might be other!
Your screenshot clearly show it is fake, the color, everything is wrong.
This is NOT a real SM-N9006 but FAKE.
You should change your title.
Not a Note 3.. doesn't belong here... Thread closed
Guys i really don't get all the version numbers this thing has >>>
I know the VZW has smaller buttons and wireless charging so what does the other versions has :
the D800,801,802,80*,9**
is there a difference and shouldnt there be a newbie guide to this awsome phone can't seem to find one !!!
Tried a simple Google search? It's all out there. No need to be so befuddled.
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Guys i really don't get all the version numbers this thing has >>>
I know the VZW has smaller buttons and wireless charging so what does the other versions has :
the D800,801,802,80*,9**
is there a difference and shouldnt there be a newbie guide to this awsome phone can't seem to find one !!!
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Simple. You get the one that your carrier supports. Why would you care about the rest?
Phones support an insane amount of bands these days, but they still can't cover EVERY band, carrier, frequency, etc, world-wide, on a single piece of hardware.
I wish they all had wireless charging, Vermizon is the only one that has it as far as I know. And the Korean version has a smaller replaceable battery, but as far as I know, those are the only two models with an "obvious" difference. The rest I assume is internals and support. Some models might even be exactly the same and only have different model numbers to indicate the carrier.
Again, why worry about it, get the right phone for your carrier. Done.
Think we will see any roms based off of pixel? or maybe commits to use to get cyanogen and all variants working?
I have asked about a port http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/help/upcoming-pixel-phone-port-t3460899 . Seeing as though the Chipsets are different and the Phone is a Google device and not a HTC Device. I dont see it happening. We dont even have 7.0 and I am sure big G has added a few things to make their device different enough to slow or stop such things.