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Any chance that someone here could port ios4 to the samsung galaxy s, isnt the hardware between the iphone4 and galaxy s pretty similar? (Well at least the important bit, the cpu/gpu). Just for laughs, android is fine.
Well, no.
iOS isn't open source, so it'd be a ***** and a half to do, but you are right were the attempt to be made it would be easier based on the hardware similarities.
If someone did manage it, apple would sure as hell be all over anyone trying to distribute the rom.
I know it's not my business but why would you want to contaminate this Android beauty with the Ios? It's like buying a Ferrari and installing a Lamborghini engine in it.
If you want the Lamborghini, just buy that instead.
why the hell would you want to?
Yea, just like k2snowboards88 said, even if it was to be done, apple would be all over the place with an army of lawyers and class action lawsuits, bunch of f......
If i remember correctly some XDA guy got in trouble because of something he made that "resembled" an apple software.
While lawsuits sound scary, I still don't think that is the right reason not to do it. Do you really Ios is better than Android?
i am also using android (galaxy s) but after giving a try the new iOS 4 i think the iOS has the edge its a much more smooth, easy and eye candy operating system.
Yeah, I totally agree with you savvase.
The UI experience of the Android phones is pretty choppy compared to the Iphones Ios. If I recall correctly, it is because Android is based on a higher level programing, Java, while Ios is based on lower lever programming.
If you want Android to get the Ios smoothness, visit and vote here http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
I think if you want ios, that you should get an iphone. The iphone 4g once the bugs are ironed out is a very very good piece of hardware. I want an android phone because I don't want ios.
If you like iOS so much better go for iphone directly. they dont have AMOLED but the hardware is great too.
I believe people here in Galaxy S really happy with the hardware AND the SOFTWARE.
In andriod you get all the customisation you want. iOS will only ask you to upgrade your hardware rather than pushes your hardware the limit.(no video recording in Iphone 3G)
...that iPhone is being mocked in this forum and yet in the very same forum there's an iPhone theme being praised and downloaded by many people?
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...that iPhone is being mocked in this forum and yet in the very same forum there's an iPhone theme being praised and downloaded by many people?
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No not really ...
Nobody here will deny the Iphone is kind of sexy ....
But it is like dating a cardboard cutout of a supermodel, looks great, but not much you can actually do with it ....
i dont really find it ironic, its not like were wanting to run iOS on our phones or anything, we just like the icons. the supermodel comparison is spot on- the iphone is all looks & no brains. its a gorgeous piece of hardware, id probably buy one if i could run winmo or even android on it.
I haven't heard of very many people running that theme really.
The iPhone looks good to some people...thats all.
the device itself is sexy. turn it on to see the interface-> I then get turned off.
I dont understand why you would want to use something like iphone today but each to their own......
Windows Mobile phones are all about changing the interface whenever you want. The iPhone shell is just another shell, people won't be using it for long.
Even more ironic is that while everyone is downloading iPhone themes, there are plenty of iPhone users hacking their phones just to use other themes!
I've never seen a WM theme, but I have seen a blackberry theme, and a nexus one theme for the iphone.
I suppose the grass is always greener on the other side.
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Even more ironic is that while everyone is downloading iPhone themes, there are plenty of iPhone users hacking their phones just to use other themes!
I've never seen a WM theme, but I have seen a blackberry theme, and a nexus one theme for the iphone.
I suppose the grass is always greener on the other side.
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No not really ...
Nobody here will deny the Iphone is kind of sexy ....
But it is like dating a cardboard cutout of a supermodel, looks great, but not much you can actually do with it ....
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ROFLMAO! Brilliant analogy!
Downloading and modifying it to look like an iPhone? Well I guess people do it 'caus they can, when they get tired of that FisherPrice look, they change it to something else.
Why should this be ironic? Having a WM is not about hating iPhones, it's about loving everything about phones and not only that shiny mirror-like reflection from it.
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I wouldn't do with theme things like others. The iphone no doubt has a very very powerful os, it personally find it the best of all on earth, and it is so much better. And the theme is just making the HD2 look nicer, but not the performance we can have in Iphone which is the more important aspect how an iphone is. I really really want an iphone, but I choosed HD2 because I've been used to many useful apps with WM, and I've been really pissed off by the iphone built in battery. No doubt HD2 has very poor battery performance, but I can switch batteries all day long!
My point is, i would not put iphone theme to my HD2, because the slick looking theme is not at all the most important aspect of iphone, HD2 will never ever feel like an iphone even with 99% similar theme.
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No not really ...
Nobody here will deny the Iphone is kind of sexy ....
But it is like dating a cardboard cutout of a supermodel, looks great, but not much you can actually do with it ....
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Wow!..........Well put!!
i have been selling phones for 9 years now for a uk major network i have seen phones go from 3310 to the super ericsson r390(ok not that good but changed phones forever) all the way to the phone4 and this is my take on things, iphone is one of the phones you love or hate, i have had one since day one but also used my touch pro more due to the fact that i can change things on it, eg themes and the like.
dont get me wrong apple did a super job with the iphone but they restrict everything unless u jailbreak it. then that causes issues with signal batt life, and frezzing. if only apple said its open for the owners to play with then it would get more of a like factor, instead people have them and get board with them, i was sick of the apple way (ether u like it how it is or buy something else) so i did and swopped it for a hd2, there has always been a apple v windows thing going and always will, but look at what it has done for the phone market.... android,web os,linux in genral on a phone would we have seen this sort of thing when the xda exec was out, no we wouldnt it was the iphone that opened peoples eyes to other things.
so in a way apple as made the other companys stand up and beat the iphone in the niche markets where apple cant go.
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I wouldn't do with theme things like others. The iphone no doubt has a very very powerful os, it personally find it the best of all on earth, and it is so much better. And the theme is just making the HD2 look nicer, but not the performance we can have in Iphone which is the more important aspect how an iphone is. I really really want an iphone, but I choosed HD2 because I've been used to many useful apps with WM, and I've been really pissed off by the iphone built in battery. No doubt HD2 has very poor battery performance, but I can switch batteries all day long!
My point is, i would not put iphone theme to my HD2, because the slick looking theme is not at all the most important aspect of iphone, HD2 will never ever feel like an iphone even with 99% similar theme.
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iPhone OS does not support multitasking unless you upgrade it to the latest OS4 which is still buggy. iPhone 3gs has no performance. The only reason for buying an iPhone is its abundant games availability.
Hey all
Looking to change from iphone4. Had every iPhone since launch and am just bored of em now
Looking at android phone and the sgs2 caught my eye
However have seen a lot of negativity about it in here and elsewhere
So do you think it's a good move or should I hang on for the HTC sensation (which sounds brilliant)
iPhone user here.
Apps are far better on iOS. You wont find some apps on Android that are on iOS. Thats my only dislike about Android but thats down to the developer. Im missing loads of apps, first direct, sky sports, bbc and so on. You can use the brower for all these wit Flash though
The SGS2 is by far the best Android phone. If your truely bored of iOS then get this, its worth it.
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However have seen a lot of negativity about it in here and elsewhere
Loads on negativity about IPhone all over the net .
Point is that this forum is new and not yet representative of a large number of users .
Personally i thought the SGS 1 was as good as the IPhone 4 though some users preferred the HTc interface but i did not .
You really got to try them and read the reviews on al the phones .
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s2-930907/review
I am not missing any apps that i want .
Have Sky Sports news > BBC >
jje
Hello
I got bored too
I have just done the swap to a SGS2 from a iphone 4(well still have it)
Before the ip4 I was a long time winmo user
there are good and bad points to both phones
ios is slick on ip4 and does its job well...but also so limiting even with jailbreak
I f you love tweaking then get a droid phone thats why I have now bought 1
as for the negatives how many did the ip4 have @ the start
Tbh I think the ui on sgs is poor
Much prefer HTC sense (have messed about with mates)
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Tbh I think the ui on sgs is poor
Much prefer HTC sense (have messed about with mates)
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Got the HTC desire for a while, and now I've got a SGS2, and I really prefer TouchWiz 4.0 over HTC sense. TouchWiz is really good on this phone. HTC Sense, never really liked it.
I've just received my Galaxy S2 today, a bit of an act of faith after the first one, which was IMO at first a very flawed device (a little digging and you can find my previous postings about this).
I've just come from an iPhone 4 myself, via an HTC Incredible S, so I think I can comment on here. To me, the Samsung clearly takes design cues from the iphone, in the design of the icons, the central home button and even the design and some of the features (like the screen shot - home + power)... to me, the SGS2 is like a bastard child of the best android phone and the iphone mixed into one....
IMO this is a good thing. I was bored silly with the iphone, and was sick of how restricted it was, even when Jailbreaked. The iphone 4 is a very nice phone for sure, but really boring to use in the long term (although some like it, and I can see why).
With the SGS2 you get a similar UI, but you also get androids superior functions as well (widgets, live wallpaper, notifications, google integration etc).
As for the SGS2 versus Sense, well TBH I was going to wait for the Sensation, and in the meantime, I made a profit from selling my ip4 and swapping for an Incredible S, and I did so so that I could get a taste of Sense UI. Now, I will say that Sense UI is quite nice, but if I'm being totally honest here, the only things I feel I will miss all that much are the weather and clock widget on Sense and the facebook integration. I do quite like the design of the interface on Sense... and obviously the Sensation is going to have a lot more eye candy again...
Having said all that, there are some things I am not so keen on with Sense. For example, it can at times feel a little "clunky" in places, I am not a fan of the keyboard (I know this can be changed) what with the arrow buttons underneath (not needed IMO), and I just got a feeling that it was slowing the phone down slightly.
Now, when I got the SGS2 I did feel as though I'd probably just dump TWLauncher straight away, but you know what, I think Samsung have really done quite a good job with TW4 to the point where I'm honestly not sure that I can say I prefer Sense any longer. It feels lighter and less bloated, it has some nice touches (task manager, power toggles in the notification, resizing widgets, deleting screens (which you STILL can't do in Sense), folders in the App drawer and so on). Now I'm still not a huge fan of some of the included widgets (but the new calendar widget is superb IMO), and I don't think I'll use the hubs much.
I'm not actually sure whether the Sensation will be able to compete in pure speed and performance terms with the SGS2 which frankly seems to go like a rocket. In fact, the SGS2 seems to fix much of what was wrong with the first phone. I really like it.... BUT... I haven't tested the GPS, yet!
As for the iphone 4 versus the SGS2, once you get over the fact the apps quality isn't quite up there (especially games), you won't look back. Although the iphone 4 feels and looks a more premium product, the Samsung is actually a nicer thing to handle, feels more comfortable in the hand... but other than that, seriously, there seems to be no competition here really, the SGS2 is MUCH better than the iphone 4 really... better camera, MUCH faster, far bigger screen (trust me the iphone 4 looks REALLY tiny compared) and far less restricted.
If this phone lives up to its early promise then I can tell you now that this is one fine phone, and Samsung may have finally delivered the kind of phone everyone knew they could if they put their mind to it... but time will tell
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Tbh I think the ui on sgs is poor
Much prefer HTC sense (have messed about with mates)
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It's really a matter of taste, if you want a perfect Sense experience, then buying this phone wouldn't be a good choice I think
I've never really have experience on Sense (people around me use either iPhone 4 or BB!), but this Touchwiz isn't that bad except for one, no alphabetical sort in grid view on the apps drawer
I've been an iPhone user for 3 years and gone from the 3g to 3gs to the iPhone 4. I have also been an Android user for 1 year, I started with the Desire and upgraded to the SGS1. Despite liking Android a lot, I couldn't really make the switch to being a full time Android user. Mainly becasue I have bought a bunch of really specialized (medical) expensive apps on the iPhone. I dont't mind the iPhone having certain limitations as I have learnt to work around them. Also by also having an Android phone with me, they don't matter.
Like you I have grown tired of the iOS UI, especially the infamous Pop Up Notifications. As a geek I really like Android, trying out custom ROMs, not having any limitations in terms of what apps to install and being able to open web sites with flash are all part of the joy...
Currently I have sold my SGS1 and am waiting for the SGS2 to become available in Slovenia. I dont't think it will full replace my iPhone 4, but it seems it will at least keep me from buying an iPhone 5. A feat Desire couldn't manage to do!
As for the HTC vs Samsung debate. Sense is widely considered the premium Android experience, which I think it also is. But HTC is still using sub par components in its phones: the awful tiny speaker, the bad camera sensor and the worst mics for audio recording. It is for these reasons I won't be buying the Sensation but the SGS2.
Me i prefer Touchwiz and dont like sense .
jje
I'd probably pick Touchwiz over Sense too, also the first SGS imo was as good as the iPhone 4. SGSII is just so gooood....
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the first SGS imo was as good as the iPhone 4.
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It would have been if it hadn't been filled with bugs.
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I'd probably pick Touchwiz over Sense too, also the first SGS imo was as good as the iPhone 4. SGSII is just so gooood....
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Gotta disagree with you there mate
Mate has a galaxy s and it's not a patch on iphone4 I'm afraid
I'm not a fan of TW or Sense, I find them both to be very simple almost condesending, like they were built for kids or blind people to use. You cannot change the screen density with them so you have to stick with 240 which I personally dont find appealing.
I much prefer a stock android framework with ADW Ex.
I am really looking forward to some custom ROM's comming out for the SGS2.
I was a WinMo user right from 1.0 to 6.5 and loved every minute of it. After my HD2 I took a jump and tried out Android, and now I'm hooked! WP7 does look very nice, but it needs to be more open before I switch to it.
I have never owned an iphone. I had a gen1 ipod touch and couldn't stand Itunes so this put me off apple for good, plus I don't like their business model.
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Gotta disagree with you there mate
Mate has a galaxy s and it's not a patch on iphone4 I'm afraid
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It's just personal opinion, my mate has a SGS and I have to say without the bugs it had I would easily choose it over the iP4 in terms of software that is, can't stand the way the SGS looks.
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Gotta disagree with you there mate
Mate has a galaxy s and it's not a patch on iphone4 I'm afraid
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What is better on the Iphone ???+
I tested three a few weeks ago over three days .IOS4 SGS 1 not SGS2 and Win 7 on a HTC . Hardly any difference between them all down in my opinion to user choice .
jje
First post here so go easy guys -.-
Though coming from webOS 2 on the Pre 2, then to iPhone 4 with iOS 4, and now to SGSII I'd like to think I've experience the best of Mobile UI's.
And Like you, I was bored on iPhone4, the grid of Icons just didnt cut it out for me and seemed something more akin to fisher price, Loved webOS, though the sub-part hardware and lack of Apps killed it for me.
For me the SGSII is the best of both worlds, the screen is absolutely fantastic and has to be seen to believe, the Applications arent quite iPhone but nonetheless are excellent and I have found a suitable replacement for 95% of the ones I use.
I'm also picky when It comes to butter smooth UI's, and Samsung with the implementation of Touchwiz 4 has nailed It, I'm not sure about other Android phones (This being my first) but Samsung has definately implemented GPU Acceleration into the UI, and It's butter smooth, everywhere, browsing and all, It's what really sold this device to me.
I actually hate Sense, It just looks fugly in my opinion, but to each their own, I applaud Samsung, they've done a good job on Touchwiz, I wanted iPhone style Grid Icons and not the standard App Drawer so It was perfect for me, You'll feel right at home as well with the addition of folders, pages etc
My only real Gripes are the fact It's a tad on the big side, though I have small hands and that It's a dust magnet, either that or I'm OCD which I probably am (I wipe the **** out of my screens, make sure they're speckle free ^^)
SAMOLED Plus, 1.2 GHz Blazing fast Exynos CPU, Quad Core Mali GPU, 1080p Recording, 8MP Back 2MP Front, Gingerbread with Butter Smooth Awesome UI & Customization and It's not hard to see why It's possibly the best phone yet.
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First post here so go easy guys -.-
Though coming from webOS 2 on the Pre 2, then to iPhone 4 with iOS 4, and now to SGSII I'd like to think I've experience the best of Mobile UI's.
And Like you, I was bored on iPhone4, the grid of Icons just didnt cut it out for me and seemed something more akin to fisher price, Loved webOS, though the sub-part hardware and lack of Apps killed it for me.
For me the SGSII is the best of both worlds, the screen is absolutely fantastic and has to be seen to believe, the Applications arent quite iPhone but nonetheless are excellent and I have found a suitable replacement for 95% of the ones I use.
I'm also picky when It comes to butter smooth UI's, and Samsung with the implementation of Touchwiz 4 has nailed It, I'm not sure about other Android phones (This being my first) but Samsung has definately implemented GPU Acceleration into the UI, and It's butter smooth, everywhere, browsing and all, It's what really sold this device to me.
I actually hate Sense, It just looks fugly in my opinion, but to each their own, I applaud Samsung, they've done a good job on Touchwiz, I wanted iPhone style Grid Icons and not the standard App Drawer so It was perfect for me, You'll feel right at home as well with the addition of folders, pages etc
My only real Gripes are the fact It's a tad on the big side, though I have small hands and that It's a dust magnet, either that or I'm OCD which I probably am (I wipe the **** out of my screens, make sure they're speckle free ^^)
SAMOLED Plus, 1.2 GHz Blazing fast Exynos CPU, Quad Core Mali GPU, 1080p Recording, 8MP Back 2MP Front, Gingerbread with Butter Smooth Awesome UI & Customization and It's not hard to see why It's possibly the best phone yet.
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Thank you. Best response yet. This may actually have sold this to me
May have to pop Into town and check one out
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Thank you. Best response yet. This may actually have sold this to me
May have to pop Into town and check one out
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Anytime, and trust me you owe It to yourself
There's quite a few Customizations I've made to the Lock and Home Screen If you don't prefer the actual stock widgets so bear that in Mind, It looks pretty awesome now, mate which still has an iPhone was pretty impressed considering.
Not forgetting there's also the HSPA+ radio, In some areas (And depending on network) expect 4MB+ easily, It's also the thinnest smartphone in Class though using a case makes It to normal thin Slab size, I can't really fault It, the only niggle Is battery Life but then again I've been using it 24/7 and I'm yet to properly cycle the battery though early reports suggest you'll easily get a day's worth.
One of the very big plus points for some users but not all users is the ability to customize Android .You do not have to stick with the defaults themes roms kernels etc etc as you like .
jje
Ive bought a Note and today a Galaxy Nexus and they all go back...
Nothing to compare with the S2...
Can you be more precise on what you dislike?
on note:
+display size for browsing
-laggy and slower comperd to s2
-size, im 193cm but its too big for beeing a mobile phone
on galaxy nexus:
+display it looks really georgous
+videocam can zoom on fullhd and shows more
-ics at this moment (mods,app support,flash etc) is not better then gingerbread
-microsd card
Galaxy S2 is still the best one, the note and nexus only have a larger screens with higher res. And this is it.
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How is the note laggier? I thought it was an overclocked S2
How was the battery life on the note and nexus?
I am curious since I was thinking of changing
Have to admit having an s2 with an sd card slot is brilliant,why on earth they didn't see that as a plus I'll never know!
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How is the note laggier? I thought it was an overclocked S2
How was the battery life on the note and nexus?
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The notes battery was really better compared to the s2. my s2 survives on heavy useage on a office day 8 hr, the note could add 3-4 hrs... on the nexus i dont know.
The note is lagerif you use it daily as a mobile device, youre not able to use it with one hand...
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so the note is laggier becoz of its size limitation in regards to physical manipulation, not the cpu processing power. is that what u mean?
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-ics at this moment (mods,app support,flash etc) is not better then gingerbread
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I'd like to comment on this and say that after the SGN has been released, the hype has gone down for me. Being a new OS/phone there seem to be a plethora of bugs flying around, with small annoyances starting to come out.
As a techie it's easy for me to claim ICS superiority, but how will you explain these things to your dad for example? "ICS is...uh...better..."? The average person would see very minor changes. Yes the interface is new, but how is this really different from installing a new launcher? Sorry to sound cynical about ICS but to most people it is a minor interface change. The practical experience would be like moving from HTC Sense to TouchWiz... different interface but overall still the "same".
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so the note is laggier becoz of its size limitation in regards to physical manipulation, not the cpu processing power.
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yes only the screen and size are larger...
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As a techie it's easy for me to claim ICS superiority, but how will you explain these things to your dad for example? "ICS is...uh...better..."? The average person would see very minor changes. Yes the interface is new, but how is this really different from installing a new launcher? Sorry to sound cynical about ICS but to most people it is a minor interface change. The practical experience would be like moving from HTC Sense to TouchWiz... different interface but overall still the "same".
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I have a note and s2. With2.3.6 firmware the note performance is more or less like the s2. Screen is better than the s2 and unless you have small hands it's very comfortable to use. Default CPU speed is 1.4 GHz which is enough to handle the extra pixels.
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I'd like to comment on this and say that after the SGN has been released, the hype has gone down for me. Being a new OS/phone there seem to be a plethora of bugs flying around, with small annoyances starting to come out.
As a techie it's easy for me to claim ICS superiority, but how will you explain these things to your dad for example? "ICS is...uh...better..."? The average person would see very minor changes. Yes the interface is new, but how is this really different from installing a new launcher? Sorry to sound cynical about ICS but to most people it is a minor interface change. The practical experience would be like moving from HTC Sense to TouchWiz... different interface but overall still the "same".
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I dont know about ICS yet, but honeycomb experience in tablets is better than gingerbread/froyo, beyond cosmetics.
If anyone want always the same can buy apple
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I'd like to comment on this and say that after the SGN has been released, the hype has gone down for me. Being a new OS/phone there seem to be a plethora of bugs flying around, with small annoyances starting to come out.
As a techie it's easy for me to claim ICS superiority, but how will you explain these things to your dad for example? "ICS is...uh...better..."? The average person would see very minor changes. Yes the interface is new, but how is this really different from installing a new launcher? Sorry to sound cynical about ICS but to most people it is a minor interface change. The practical experience would be like moving from HTC Sense to TouchWiz... different interface but overall still the "same".
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I dont agree about ICS being the same as installing a new Launcher. Go watch some more vids about ICS. You see changes in the phone app, in the calander app, in the browser. The UI is more consistent in every part of the OS, giving it a modern and complete look. There are nice animations, also for switching from portrait to landscape view, the new notifications bar, etc etc.
Not to mention there should be new features.
The Engadget ICS review goes pretty deep in to ICS.
I usually am like you and very honest and direct about if I like something or its not such a big deal. But imo ICS is a very good and nice update.
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Have to admit having an s2 with an sd card slot is brilliant,why on earth they didn't see that as a plus I'll never know!
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From someone who owned an HTC Diamond, the omission of an SD Card is a stupid idea. From a manufacturer's point of view, you make one phone which can have an 8GB, 16GB or 32GB extra memory which can be plugged in or (like Apple) manufacturer 3 variations of the exact same phone.
audino said:
on note:
+display size for browsing
-laggy and slower comperd to s2
-size, im 193cm but its too big for beeing a mobile phone
on galaxy nexus:
+display it looks really georgous
+videocam can zoom on fullhd and shows more
-ics at this moment (mods,app support,flash etc) is not better then gingerbread
-microsd card
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umm most of the things u point out is common sense ? couldnt u have known that before getting them ?
for example the size ... yes its big ..... didnt u know this >?????
yes ICS isnt better in the department because its NEW didnt u know this ether ?
no microsd card .... yeah couldnt u have known this from the spec page on samsung ??
this is one of the strangest threads
Interesting opinions, for me the Note is ruled out straight away it is simply too big for a mobile and frankly i think it looks a bit silly walking around with something that size stuck to your ear.
The Nexus i would be more interested in but the lack of SD rules out me getting that straight off,what were Samsung thinking
Actually i don't know why Samsung are even bothering releasing more and more smartphones trying to rival the SGSII, i hope it's not a case of quantity as opposed to quality,churning out a new smartphone every few months for me isn't the way to go, if i were Samsung i would've waited until Feb 2012 and released the SGSIII complete with ICS and watch as sales rocket, lets be honest the Note and Galaxy will be lucky to achieve even a 1/3 of the sales the SGSII has done,only the wealthy and those who are really obsessed with having the latest smartphone regardless if it's the best or not will buy,judging by the reviews ive read both these phones are no better than the SGSII so why bother shelling out lots of money.
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Interesting opinions, for me the Note is ruled out straight away it is simply too big for a mobile and frankly i think it looks a bit silly walking around with something that size stuck to your ear.
The Nexus i would be more interested in but the lack of SD rules out me getting that straight off,what were Samsung thinking
Actually i don't know why Samsung are even bothering releasing more and more smartphones trying to rival the SGSII, i hope it's not a case of quantity as opposed to quality,churning out a new smartphone every few months for me isn't the way to go, if i were Samsung i would've waited until Feb 2012 and released the SGSIII complete with ICS and watch as sales rocket, lets be honest the Note and Galaxy will be lucky to achieve even a 1/3 of the sales the SGSII has done,only the wealthy and those who are really obsessed with having the latest smartphone regardless if it's the best or not will buy,judging by the reviews ive read both these phones are no better than the SGSII so why bother shelling out lots of money.
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The note blows away the sg2 IMO. I have both and gave the sg2 to my girlfriend.e
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I'm not really impressed with ICS as well, UI change is a big thing especially the on screen buttons but I'm not a big fan. 2.1 and the Nexus one was still the most exciting thing to ever happen to android, big leap forward and the best smartphone available by a mile!
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I dont agree about ICS being the same as installing a new Launcher. Go watch some more vids about ICS. You see changes in the phone app, in the calander app, in the browser. The UI is more consistent in every part of the OS, giving it a modern and complete look. There are nice animations, also for switching from portrait to landscape view, the new notifications bar, etc etc.
Not to mention there should be new features.
The Engadget ICS review goes pretty deep in to ICS.
I usually am like you and very honest and direct about if I like something or its not such a big deal. But imo ICS is a very good and nice update.
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These changes in phone, calendar, browser etc doesn't mean we'll see them on the s2. Samsung has their own, tw etc. To me these are small changes anyway. What more do I want in the phone app anyway!
I really don't get all the hype about ics as well. More just looking forward to see what the new Samsung ui looks like.
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The note blows away the sg2 IMO. I have both and gave the sg2 to my girlfriend.e
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Don't you think it's wayyyy too big to be a phone, christ you may as well go back to 1988 when you had yuppies walking about with the first ever mobile phone
I don't have tiny girl hands so no its not way too big at all. Fits perfectly, if anything the SG2 seems too small now. I could never go back to a phone smaller than 5". Unless you're a psuedo-male that's around 5'4"-5-5" with girl like hands, it should be no problem to handle. Hell even most average sized girls could handle it with ease.
It's substantially heavier, the camera isn't as good, the build feels cheaper, and it's full of Verizon bloat. Maybe I'm being picky, but I had great hopes for this phone and it just leaves me with a feeling of "meh". I'm still waiting for an iphone 6 killer, and it hasn't happened yet. Anyone else feel let down by their new Turbo?
Still 1 million times better than an iPhone
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It's substantially heavier, the camera isn't as good, the build feels cheaper, and it's full of Verizon bloat. Maybe I'm being picky, but I had great hopes for this phone and it just leaves me with a feeling of "meh". I'm still waiting for an iphone 6 killer, and it hasn't happened yet. Anyone else feel let down by their new Turbo?
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The only letdowns the Turbo has in my opinion can and will be fixed via software updates. It's definitely not for everyone but it doesn't feel cheap. As for the iPhone 6: a joke. Beyond Apple's support and a few things it is good at (camera, simplicity), it's far behind. I'll say what I say to my friends about the iPhone, "if you ever wish it had 'that' one feature or wish it did 'this' better, you're an idiot for buying it over an android phone."
Seriously theres is no and there wont be an iphone killer. People need to get that through their heads. If iOS was adopted by other companies then yes there will be an iphone killer but thatll never happen. Android and iOS are on different levels.
Why aren't you on an iPhone then? Just wondering.
There's no such thing as an Iphone killer IMO. Either you like one OS ecosystem, or another. If you like iOS, no android phone will be better, and if you like Windows, then iOS and Android will feel inferior. Compare apples to apples, not oranges.
As js0uth said, "an iPhone killer" is a pipe dream at this point. Eventually there will be one, but that will not likely be any time soon. I'm also wondering why someone who likes iPhones bought this phone instead?
BTW, I'm definitely not disappointed in my new Turbo and neither is my wife.
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It's substantially heavier, the camera isn't as good, the build feels cheaper, and it's full of Verizon bloat. Maybe I'm being picky, but I had great hopes for this phone and it just leaves me with a feeling of "meh". I'm still waiting for an iphone 6 killer, and it hasn't happened yet. Anyone else feel let down by their new Turbo?
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Dont you already know? all the iPhones are just too good, especially the iPhone 3GS. you cant beat apples multitasking, new special features like widgets, custom scripting and automation, camera quality, battery life, and the list goes on.
wait until the iPhone 7 comes out with custom home screens.... imagine live moving home screens with widgets! blowing my mine just thinking about it.
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It's substantially heavier, the camera isn't as good, the build feels cheaper, and it's full of Verizon bloat. Maybe I'm being picky, but I had great hopes for this phone and it just leaves me with a feeling of "meh". I'm still waiting for an iphone 6 killer, and it hasn't happened yet. Anyone else feel let down by their new Turbo?
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Agreed. It's simply a moto x with a huge battery which isn't bad but the battery life isn't very good at all. Camera is Motorola bad like every one before. You can't even take a picture of a child moving without blurred results. I traded for the z3v and have a great camera now and better battery life. The turbo was way overhyped. Not a good buy.
From 99% of the smartphone market share to 20%. IPhone killer? That war is over, and has been for a while. Now its more of what you prefer.
But since we're on the subject, besides a better camera what does the iphone do better than the Droid?
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Camera is Motorola bad like every one before. You can't even take a picture of a child moving without blurred results. I traded for the z3v and have a great camera now and better battery life.
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I thought the Z3v and Turbo used the same Sony camera. Is this not true?
If so and you really like the Z3v camera sounds like the Turbo camera could be improved with software updates.
I have been a moto fan and buyer for years and every time they come out with a new phone the camera is bad. Seriously, try to take a picture with the turbo of anything that isn't 100% still. It is terrible. And after every release the discussions of software fixes begin. This happens with every new moto phone. Trust me, moto cameras are terrible and always have been. Not to mention that I am already getting better battery life with my z3v. Not saying that the turbo is bad but it is by no means the best at battery life or camera. I traded my turbo because of the camera and also the wifi is very slow. The slow wifi thing is pretty bad.
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It has a substantially bigger battery. This is kind of an expected tradeoff. If you expected anything else, then you were being unrealistic.
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the camera isn't as good
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What don't you like about the camera? I've looked at still shots side by side, and I actually think the Turbo looks better. The iPhone has the edge in video, particularly as regards the slomo mode, but that's really just a gimmick anyway.
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Cheaper than a flimsy aluminum thing that bends in your pocket? Try to bend the Turbo in your pocket! It comes across as a solid (very solid) quality product, just not as flashy as the iPhone. Flashy has always been Apples thing "ooh shiny".
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and it's full of Verizon bloat.
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Here I actually agree with you, and I was rather disappointed given the MotoX's reputation as being a "near nexus" device. The stock image uses up A LOT of space because of all the bloated crap that's installed I will never use (a ton of little red apps Named Verizon - something, backup assitance, etc. etc., preinstalled NFL app, preinstalled Amazon crap, etc. etc..
When will they actually learn that what people actually want is a phone with absolutely 0 carrier branding, and absolutely 0 carrier modification to software.
An android phone should come with the google OS and unmodified gapps, an unmodified launcher and that's it. Nothing else should be installed on it.
Don't get me wrong, many manufacturer apps are actually useful, such as Moto Assist, but make installing them an OPTION not a requirement. That being said, I have never seen a carrier app that was useful. They need to be gone ASAP.
I went through an uninstalled what I could (very little, why the hell do they do this?) cleared and disabled the rest (anything with Verizon in the name, anything with Amazon in the name, anything cloud/backup/sync/whatever) which makes the device better, but it still wastes storage space.
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Maybe I'm being picky, but I had great hopes for this phone and it just leaves me with a feeling of "meh". I'm still waiting for an iphone 6 killer, and it hasn't happened yet. Anyone else feel let down by their new Turbo?
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Bloat aside, I like my Turbo. And comparing it negatively to an iPhone is just silly. Apple can keep their shiny polished turds that lock you into a closed ecosystem. I'd go without a phone before going Apple.
IMHO, the hardware and physical design make the Turbo the best phone on the market right now, bar none. There are some software shortcomings - however.
Give me Advanced Calling with VoLTE, Lollipop, root and an unlocked boot loader and this phone is the best thing since sliced bread.
Thanks for the pointless post. Look, you either like iOS or Android. You can't compare the two, they are entirely different. iPhone is iPhone, you can't change it, only Apple has that power. Android is available on an almost endless amount of options, you have a choice. Don't like the Turbo? Choose something else... Don't like the iPhone? Well... ya.
Get over it.
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Thanks for the pointless post. Look, you either like iOS or Android. You can't compare the two, they are entirely different. iPhone is iPhone, you can't change it, only Apple has that power. Android is available on an almost endless amount of options, you have a choice. Don't like the Turbo? Choose something else... Don't like the iPhone? Well... ya.
Get over it.
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Thanks for your pointless comment. Actually, I use and like both iOS and Android, so your argument is invalid. My point is that for a "premium" flagship phone it doesn't feel very premium.
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Thanks for your pointless comment. Actually, I use and like both iOS and Android, so your argument is invalid. My point is that for a "premium" flagship phone it doesn't feel very premium.
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My comments are far from invalid. Maybe for you specifically. However, I offer more facts over opinion. So, to each their own.
But to further elaborate, you're once again comparing two very different products and/or materials. Metal vs Metal, Kevlar, and Nylon. 750/1080p IPS vs 1440 UHD AMOLED, and both have best chipsets/components available in their categories currently.
I fail to see that lack of "premium" quality here.
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Thanks for the pointless post. Look, you either like iOS or Android. You can't compare the two, they are entirely different. iPhone is iPhone, you can't change it, only Apple has that power. Android is available on an almost endless amount of options, you have a choice. Don't like the Turbo? Choose something else... Don't like the iPhone? Well... ya.
Get over it.
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My comments are far from invalid. Maybe for you specifically. However, I offer more facts over opinion. So, to each their own.
But to further elaborate, you're once again comparing two very different products and/or materials. Metal vs Metal, Kevlar, and Nylon. 750/1080p IPS vs 1440 UHD AMOLED, and both have best chipsets/components available in their categories currently.
I fail to see that lack of "premium" quality here.
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Difference of opinion I guess. Some people like Ford, some Like Chevy. But claiming that you can't compare them because they are different is just a joke. They are both smart phones and are in direct competition with each other. To me the turbo looks and feels cheap and the iphone looks premium. Spec wise they might be similar on the inside, but that doesn't change how the phone looks and feels when I hold it.
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Difference of opinion I guess. Some people like Ford, some Like Chevy. But claiming that you can't compare them because they are different is just a joke. They are both smart phones and are in direct competition with each other. To me the turbo looks and feels cheap and the iphone looks premium. Spec wise they might be similar on the inside, but that doesn't change how the phone looks and feels when I hold it.
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Of course it is difference of opinion. But the Turbo isn't made out of pure plastic like most Android phones. In fact, I can guarantee you both iPhone 6 models will bend, break, or fail well before a Turbo due to material/design build. I'd like to get your opinion on premium quality after a proper drop, water, or durability test. Not to mention the fact Verizon covers the first screen replacement on the Turbo. Good luck getting that with your iPhone 6.
In terms of comparison, my point is more the fact Android is open sourced. With Android the possibilities are endless. iOS is closed and controlled solely by Apple. Sure, you can compare the ecosystem, but that is about it.
You really want to use Ford vs Chevy as an Android to iOS comparison? OK, I'll bite. Let's say Android is Ford, iOS is Chevy.
With Chevy, you get only one "engine" and you cannot alter this engine in any way. You can choose between two different colors and two different size models. Those are your choices, they won't change, unless Chevy says otherwise.
With Ford, you are given an "engine" and you can alter this engine any way you choose. Keep it stock, super charge it, minimize it, optimize it, options are endless. You can chose from an unlimited amount of options, because in this case, your engine can be place into anything you want. You have the option to choose. You are not forced to stick with two models and one engine.
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Of course it is difference of opinion. But the Turbo isn't made out of pure plastic like most Android phones. In fact, I can guarantee you both iPhone 6 models will bend, break, or fail well before a Turbo due to material/design build. I'd like to get your opinion on premium quality after a proper drop, water, or durability test. Not to mention the fact Verizon covers the first screen replacement on the Turbo. Good luck getting that with your iPhone 6.
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Meh, to me those are unimportant because I never drop my phone, and I've never broken a screen. So I could care less about "durability". I prefer a premium feel when I hold my phone, which happens every day.
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With Chevy, you get only one "engine" and you cannot alter this engine in any way. You can choose between two different colors and two different size models. Those are your choices, they won't change, unless Chevy says otherwise.
With Ford, you are given an "engine" and you can alter this engine any way you choose. Keep it stock, super charge it, minimize it, optimize it, options are endless. You can chose from an unlimited amount of options, because in this case, your engine can be place into anything you want. You have the option to choose. You are not forced to stick with two models and one engine.
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But at the end of the day they are both vehicles that drive you places. Just because you can tinker with one engine doesn't make it 'better'. It just makes it customizable. Don't get me wrong, I value that about android, but It doesn't make it 'better'. It makes it different.
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Meh, to me those are unimportant because I never drop my phone, and I've never broken a screen. So I could care less about "durability". I prefer a premium feel when I hold my phone, which happens every day. .
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Sounds to me you just like a cold metal feel in your hand. I bet you have a case on your iPhone and don't even notice the metal.
I'm done here. Kicking a dead horse.
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Sounds to me you just like a cold metal feel in your hand. I bet you have a case on your iPhone and don't even notice the metal.
I'm done here. Kicking a dead horse.
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Nope, wrong again. I never use a case, and thats my point. I value phones that feel premium and for me the Turbo lacks that feel.