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Hi,
I wanted to know how this NFC chip works? I heard office access cards use NFC, so say if that is true, how do i replicate the access authorizations on the S2? Do I calibrate the access card with the S2 NFC chip??
Most office access cards do not use NFC, they'll use a different type of RFID. Depending on the company, hardware, and NFC chip, you may be able to use it for access, but I doubt it in most cases.
Regardless, the SGS2 in your hand does not have NFC capabilities unless you're in S. Korea.
slice77 said:
Most office access cards do not use NFC, they'll use a different type of RFID. Depending on the company, hardware, and NFC chip, you may be able to use it for access, but I doubt it in most cases.
Regardless, the SGS2 in your hand does not have NFC capabilities unless you're in S. Korea.
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Or in India !
Lucky you!
If you do have an NFC equipped SGS2, then try tapping it on your door access reader and see if the reader reacts. If it does, then it probably recorded the UID of the tag in your system. You'll just need your system admin to add that UID to your user account and voila, you're in.
If it doesn't react (I have little experience with the NXP chip in the phone), then you might be able to download an app from the market that will allow you to emulate a tag's UID. Note: After a quick look on the market, I haven't found such an app. One might come about later though, as the functionality to emulate tags was not added until 2.3.3 and most of the NFC apps on the market were created for reading only which came in 2.3. You might have luck contacting an existing NFC developer to add that functionality to their app.
If neither of those work, then your door access system uses a different frequency or protocol all together (the majority do) which means you won't be able to use your phone for access
Hope that helps
the indian version has also nfc onboard?
is this confirmed on the indian s2 site?
slice77 said:
Lucky you!
If you do have an NFC equipped SGS2, then try tapping it on your door access reader and see if the reader reacts. If it does, then it probably recorded the UID of the tag in your system. You'll just need your system admin to add that UID to your user account and voila, you're in.
If it doesn't react (I have little experience with the NXP chip in the phone), then you might be able to download an app from the market that will allow you to emulate a tag's UID. Note: After a quick look on the market, I haven't found such an app. One might come about later though, as the functionality to emulate tags was not added until 2.3.3 and most of the NFC apps on the market were created for reading only which came in 2.3. You might have luck contacting an existing NFC developer to add that functionality to their app.
If neither of those work, then your door access system uses a different frequency or protocol all together (the majority do) which means you won't be able to use your phone for access
Hope that helps
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Yeah thanks for all the info !! I think I was expecting too much...I thought we would be able to calibrate the access card and the phone (so that it uses the same id that is already recorded by the admin department for access) and it would replace the card!! Anyways....will first have to check whether the card reader reacts to the chip or not first !!
ash969 said:
the indian version has also nfc onboard?
is this confirmed on the indian s2 site?
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Samsung confirmed it on their twitter account!! We shall only know tomorrow for sure though !
But if I'm not mistaken, India is getting the Tegra2 proc and SuperLCD screen.
BarryH_GEG said:
But if I'm not mistaken, India is getting the Tegra2 proc and SuperLCD screen.
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You are mistaken...
SAMOLED+ & Exynos.
NFC = Maybe, although sites claim it, I will believe it when I see it launched.
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You are mistaken...
SAMOLED+ & Exynos.
NFC = Maybe, although sites claim it, I will believe it when I see it launched.
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Yeah....agree with u totally!!! We will believe when we see it (or maybe when the specs are officially released in the event today).
dudes, slcd+tegra is not i9100....its totaly different model i9103
And more so, there is no evidence of the i9103 to go anywhere. Its not in anyones inventory list that can prove that it will be made available to anyone YET... I say YET because its most likely that it will happen IF and when the stock gets low or shortage of parts.
I just two apps called ANT Radio Service and ANT+ Plugins. I did not installed them. How can they are on my phone? And why are these are system apps?
Can I delete them, and if I can, how do I make it?
I use 4.3 MI8 Android Sytem on my Galaxy S4
Lewis0214 said:
I just two apps called ANT Radio Service and ANT+ Plugins. I did not installed them. How can they are on my phone? And why are these are system apps?
Can I delete them, and if I can, how do I make it?
I use 4.3 MI8 Android Sytem on my Galaxy S4
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Copying my post from somewhere else:
Sony and Samsung bundle these services on all of their latest devices.
To my understanding these services are just the equivalent of the Bluetooth stack which allows apps to use Bluetooth on your phone, but for ANT+. Instead of being built deeper down at the system level (where you wouldn't find it in your apps list), it's been distributed on the Play Store to make bug fixes and new feature updates much faster than waiting for new firmware updates. Also it allows users to add ANT support to devices which already do not have it through USB.
Google already does this with their Google Play Services which they bundle into the Google Play "app" so they can bypass carriers and not wait for phones to be firmware updated (if they ever are). In this case it's just more highly visible then if it was hidden deeper.
If you delete them, it's the equivalent of deleting Bluetooth support, but for ANT+ devices instead.
You can find more information about it on their website.
As to removing it, you need root access, but if their are no apps using them then they don't consume any discernable power anyway
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Copying my post from somewhere else:
Sony and Samsung bundle these services on all of their latest devices.
To my understanding these services are just the equivalent of the Bluetooth stack which allows apps to use Bluetooth on your phone, but for ANT+. Instead of being built deeper down at the system level (where you wouldn't find it in your apps list), it's been distributed on the Play Store to make bug fixes and new feature updates much faster than waiting for new firmware updates. Also it allows users to add ANT support to devices which already do not have it through USB.
Google already does this with their Google Play Services which they bundle into the Google Play "app" so they can bypass carriers and not wait for phones to be firmware updated (if they ever are). In this case it's just more highly visible then if it was hidden deeper.
If you delete them, it's the equivalent of deleting Bluetooth support, but for ANT+ devices instead.
You can find more information about it on their website.
As to removing it, you need root access, but if their are no apps using them then they don't consume any discernable power anyway
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Good to know thanks for the info.:good:
Ant and Ant+ are for pairing with fitness devices like pedometers, heart rate monitors, and other such fitness monitors and tools. If you do not use these type of devices...simply disable the app...its just another way samsung is trying to appease all of their users and entice others to use their products. A very useful app if you are into staying fit.
NO!!!,DONT USE THEM,THEY WILL TURN YOU INTO ANT(lol,jk,just feeding the trolls[emoji23] [emoji23] ) but anyways @geusseppe is right:
geusseppe said:
Ant and Ant+ are for pairing with fitness devices like pedometers, heart rate monitors, and other such fitness monitors and tools. If you do not use these type of devices...simply disable the app...its just another way samsung is trying to appease all of their users and entice others to use their products. A very useful app if you are into staying fit.
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yahya wessam said:
NO!!!,DONT USE THEM,THEY WILL TURN YOU INTO ANT(lol,jk,just feeding the trolls[emoji23] [emoji23] ) but anyways @geusseppe is right:
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geusseppe said:
Ant and Ant+ are for pairing with fitness devices like pedometers, heart rate monitors, and other such fitness monitors and tools. If you do not use these type of devices...simply disable the app...its just another way samsung is trying to appease all of their users and entice others to use their products. A very useful app if you are into staying fit.
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Not exactly, this is not entirely correct. It's more then just "pairing fitness devices". Please read OneCanuck's first reply for a better understanding on what it is. Thank you.
Just watched a video where apparently this so called "ANT" app is just a spy infiltrated in your phone. If installed, by remote access, camera/microphone can be activated even with the phone shut off.
Link, or it doesn't exist.
Where did you find this video? And, what Proves they have knowledge & truth on the subject. Just cuz its on the web dosent mean its true or real. Theres a LOT of sh*theads out there puttíng out Bad Information, some unwitingly, some are deviant jerks. Either way, the one who accepts this bad info is exploited & his/her problems are ábout to begin. Be suspicious my friend, trust nothing, verify everything.
@?Everything: Replying to a thread that's been dead for two years now. Why?
@Strephon Alkhalikoi, things stay on the internet for longer than 2 years and search engines find them.
If you want siloed forum threads, automatically lock them after 6 months of inactivity. But there's value in having all information and interaction in one place.
To ?Everything's point, notkbna never provided proof, and readers from the future will now have both warnings and be able to decide on their own.
To make my own contribution to the actual topic, ANT+ really isn't much more than "pairing fitness devices". Sure it can be used in things like remote controls and geocaching, but it's just a protocol for monitoring sensor data.
Let'sDev said:
@Strephon Alkhalikoi, things stay on the internet for longer than 2 years and search engines find them.
If you want siloed forum threads, automatically lock them after 6 months of inactivity. But there's value in having all information and interaction in one place.
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And here you are, wasting time on a thread that ended three years ago. Neither you nor "Everything" bothered to look at the date of the last post, which means the only purpose of you two posting at all is to inflate your post counts. The only reason I knew this thread was resurrected from the dead is XDA Labs bringing it to the top of my Participated Threads window.
You're wasting both your time and mine by resurrecting this thread. The people who participated in it are unlikely to respond, and anything you may want to add is probably out of date.
Just like this thread.
A friend of mine has found that on Play Store there are some apps that aren't "compatible" with the S10+. I too myself have checked and yes, it appears like it isn't compatible.
Can anyone else on other Regions check if this apps appear too like that? I am from Puerto Rico
Apps:
1. Adobe Premier Clip
2. Slice Package Tracker
In Poland (central Europe):
- APClip - same as yours
- Slice - doesn't even show up in results
Explanation
@atrix_noob
If it's any consolation, the applications install just fine if you download the APK directly (e.g., APKPure).
The best thing to do is to reach to the Developers and inquire when your device will be 'officially' supported. They hold the key.
I'll explain why this happens:
When an application is built, a unique file called a 'Manifest' is created alongside it.
The 'Manifest' lists what the application CAN and CANNOT do when used with a specific device.
When the application is searched via Google Play and the result loaded, the 'Manifest' determines whether or not the device IS or ISN'T compatible.
If the Application is, it will install.
And if it isn't, it won't.
Given the popular of Samsung as a whole, you'll likely see availability soon but given the amount of devices released every month, one can only imagine how many updates a Developer must have to prepare.
If you'd like to learn more, take a look at this:
https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/compatibility
Yeah, i've had it with a few runtastic apps. Had to download them manually and install the apk.
piotrkruczek said:
In Poland (central Europe):
- APClip - same as yours
- Slice - doesn't even show up in results
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Thanks man, I aprecciate your help.
AHE_XDA said:
@atrix_noob
If it's any consolation, the applications install just fine if you download the APK directly (e.g., APKPure).
The best thing to do is to reach to the Developers and inquire when your device will be 'officially' supported. They hold the key.
I'll explain why this happens:
When an application is built, a unique file called a 'Manifest' is created alongside it.
The 'Manifest' lists what the application CAN and CANNOT do when used with a specific device.
When the application is searched via Google Play and the result loaded, the 'Manifest' determines whether or not the device IS or ISN'T compatible.
If the Application is, it will install.
And if it isn't, it won't.
Given the popular of Samsung as a whole, you'll likely see availability soon but given the amount of devices released every month, one can only imagine how many updates a Developer must have to prepare.
If you'd like to learn more, take a look at this:
https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/compatibility
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Hey, gotcha, I'll be giving that thread a look, thanks for the explanation I really apreciate your patience. I'll try manually installing the APK and wait till updates for fix the compatibility issuses on the app.
Valinorian said:
Yeah, i've had it with a few runtastic apps. Had to download them manually and install the apk.
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I'll be giving that a shot and test if they install
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Hey, gotcha, I'll be giving that thread a look, thanks for the explanation I really apreciate your patience. I'll try manually installing the APK and wait till updates for fix the compatibility issuses on the app.
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My pleasure. Anytime.
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I'll be giving that a shot and test if they install
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- runtastic six pack
- Runtastic leg trainer
- Runtastic butt trainer.
They dont show up in appstore but work fine when you install it through apk,
Valinorian said:
- runtastic six pack
- Runtastic leg trainer
- Runtastic butt trainer.
They dont show up in appstore but work fine when you install it through apk,
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Thanks for the headsup there.
I installed the apps of my original post thru APK amd all work flawlessly
AHE_XDA said:
@atrix_noob
If it's any consolation, the applications install just fine if you download the APK directly (e.g., APKPure).
The best thing to do is to reach to the Developers and inquire when your device will be 'officially' supported. They hold the key.
I'll explain why this happens:
When an application is built, a unique file called a 'Manifest' is created alongside it.
The 'Manifest' lists what the application CAN and CANNOT do when used with a specific device.
When the application is searched via Google Play and the result loaded, the 'Manifest' determines whether or not the device IS or ISN'T compatible.
If the Application is, it will install.
And if it isn't, it won't.
Given the popular of Samsung as a whole, you'll likely see availability soon but given the amount of devices released every month, one can only imagine how many updates a Developer must have to prepare.
If you'd like to learn more, take a look at this:
https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/compatibility
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The thing is that not each device is manually included in the manifest. New devices are released all the time and unless you exclude something specifically, apps are always made available for distribution. This happens with one of the apps my company runs as well. Whenever a new Galaxy device comes out, its always incompatible with the app and its not because of anything we have done with it.
@Blaaargh
'The thing is that not each device is manually included in the manifest.'
No one said every device is included in the manifest. In fact no devices are listed in the manifest; only declarations.
'New devices are released all the time and unless you exclude something specifically, apps are always made available for distribution. Whenever a new Galaxy device comes out, its always incompatible with the app and its not because of anything we have done with it.'
OP wanted to know why APK X and Y weren't working. I provided him with a generalized explanation of why it MAY happen. It could very well be a Samsung issue but without breaking down the APKs in question, there's no way to be certain.
Hi,
I am considering to buy a Mi Band 5. But I am definitely not going to use the MiFit app, as I don't want to share my health data (or any data, for that matter) with a Chinese company.
So I was looking at Notify & Fitness. I understand that in the past you needed to use a modified MiFit app to obtain some Auth code. I could certainly do that if necessary, using some old, empty, rooted Android phone.
But on the current Play Store page of N&F it says "All Mi Bands 1,2,3,4,5 supported. No official app needed". They even claim that N&F can do firmware updates.
Can anyone here confirm this? Have the N&F people figured out how to pair the device without the AuthKey / completely without MiFit? This almost sounds too good to be true. Even less plausible seems the firmware update claim.
And while we are at it, does N&F allow controlling Android music apps from the Mi Band (in my case, Shuttle+ music player)?
Thanks a lot, and Cheers,
rh
rhhd said:
Hi,
I am considering to buy a Mi Band 5. But I am definitely not going to use the MiFit app, as I don't want to share my health data (or any data, for that matter) with a Chinese company.
So I was looking at Notify & Fitness. I understand that in the past you needed to use a modified MiFit app to obtain some Auth code. I could certainly do that if necessary, using some old, empty, rooted Android phone.
But on the current Play Store page of N&F it says "All Mi Bands 1,2,3,4,5 supported. No official app needed". They even claim that N&F can do firmware updates.
Can anyone here confirm this? Have the N&F people figured out how to pair the device without the AuthKey / completely without MiFit? This almost sounds too good to be true. Even less plausible seems the firmware update claim.
And while we are at it, does N&F allow controlling Android music apps from the Mi Band (in my case, Shuttle+ music player)?
Thanks a lot, and Cheers,
rh
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I have just purchased a Mi Smart Band 5 purely for the heart rate and sleep data for Google Fit and I don't like the idea of the data being shared with a Chinese company.
The initial install of the MiFit app seems to suggest you don't need to sign up for a Mi account and offers FaceBook & Google as options, however neither of these work and I get a message saying this isn't available in my region (UK). So I set up a Mi account just to play around with it. It all seems to work OK and it connects to Google Fit and provides the sleep & heart rate data.
I installed the Notify & Fitness app from the Play Store, however it just doesn't work. I have tried with the MiFit app installed as well as without it (using the Mod'd MiFit app to get the AuthKey). It just doesn't connect. The guide on the website - http://forum.mibandnotify.com/discussion/184/band-is-not-connecting-pairing-and-sync-solutions doesn't help at all. It seems to suggest my band isn't genuine?
In the Notify settings it shows the correct MAC address but says 'Band Identifier -1 - Unknown device'. None of the tests in the Notify app work - i.e. display text, vibrate etc.
I have tried three different phones (Pixel 4XL with stock Android 11, a Samsung Galaxy S6 and a S6 Edge running the Pixel Experience Android 10 ROM) and its the same behaviour on all of them.
Its as if the app doesn't have access to bluetooth?
I'll keep playing around with it but its not looking good.
EDIT: I downloaded an earlier version of Notify & Fitness for Mi Band from a mirror site (10.1.4) as opposed to the latest version on the Play Store (10.3.8) and this worked first time. It looks like the app was only updated on the Play Store yesterday so I suspect there is a bug,....
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EDIT: I downloaded an earlier version of Notify & Fitness for Mi Band from a mirror site (10.1.4) as opposed to the latest version on the Play Store (10.3.8) and this worked first time. It looks like the app was only updated on the Play Store yesterday so I suspect there is a bug,....
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Awesome, thanks for the feedback. :good:
Can you confirm that it is possible to setup the MB5 without ever installing MiFit? Thanks again!
rhhd said:
Awesome, thanks for the feedback. :good:
Can you confirm that it is possible to setup the MB5 without ever installing MiFit? Thanks again!
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No, I think you need to go through the process at least once.....
Hallo!
I've recently heard about ROMS,degoogling your Phone etc. and I bought this S10+ Phone. Is there a safe was to delete all bloatware,google Software and so on?
I've heard about GrapheneOS but unfortunately it's only for google devices so I was wondering what kind of solutions exist for this case. There are also phones with hardware kill switches but I'm a little bit skeptical about them.
Please tell me everything you know about this or the best pages to get an idea how to do so. I will be forever grateful
Science
This might help you:
Galaxy S10/S10+ Debloat / bloatware removal list
Please see my original post from the Galaxy S8 to see the XDA article on how to do this. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/s8-debloat-bloatware-thread-t3669009 New phone, new list! I've compiled a list of most of the bloatware...
forum.xda-developers.com
I feel you. The only google crap I (want to) use is Gmail and occasionally gmaps.
Unfortunately all of Android is created to serve its master... how can you separate the two?
Lol, Apple?
Proof that unlimited power corrupts ultimately.
Thanks for your replys. I will try it out
I've been using this for 3 years.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Karma Firewall (Playstore) stops the leaks and reduces battery drain by shutting Google, Samsung, etc up.
sciencebitches said:
Hallo!
I've recently heard about ROMS,degoogling your Phone etc. and I bought this S10+ Phone. Is there a safe was to delete all bloatware,google Software and so on?
I've heard about GrapheneOS but unfortunately it's only for google devices so I was wondering what kind of solutions exist for this case. There are also phones with hardware kill switches but I'm a little bit skeptical about them.
Please tell me everything you know about this or the best pages to get an idea how to do so. I will be forever grateful
Science
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If your s10+ is using an exynos cpu you can install lineage os. Lineage won't work on the snapdragon variants
sciencebitches said:
Hallo!
I've recently heard about ROMS,degoogling your Phone etc. and I bought this S10+ Phone. Is there a safe was to delete all bloatware,google Software and so on?
I've heard about GrapheneOS but unfortunately it's only for google devices so I was wondering what kind of solutions exist for this case. There are also phones with hardware kill switches but I'm a little bit skeptical about them.
Please tell me everything you know about this or the best pages to get an idea how to do so. I will be forever grateful
Science
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Hi there sciencebitches,
I realize your original post was from 2020 and its now March 2023 so maybe this is not something your interested in anymore... maybe you have a new phone, etc. But....
The Samsung phones that are sold in North America (either Canada or US) have locked bootloaders that cannot be unlocked. So you are stuck flashing Samsung firmware that is digitaly signed by Samsung.
However, if you get an international model then you can unlock the bootloader and load custom firmware. You have a couple of choices.
LineageOSWhen loading LineageOS, you can choose to load it with or without GApps. Loading it with GApps gives you all the same Google stuff, a library known as Google Play Services, as on normal Android. Loading LineageOS without GApps gives you no Google stuff whatsoever. This is what I am running on my SM-G975F – LineageOS without GApps.
LineageOS for microGThis gives you LineageOS with a substitute library called MicroG. The MicroG library is a reimplementation of the Google Play Services that some (a lot?) of Android apps require. So, if you need to use some apps that require Google Play Services but don’t want to be overrun with Google again, then MicroG is recommended. With “pure LineageOS” (sans GApps) you get no Google Play Services whatsoever.
/e/OSThis is another implementation of LineageOS with MicroG. It is fairly polished but tries to look like iOS and so feels somewhat un-Android like. I have no first-hand experience with /e/OS.
GrapheneOS and Calyx OSThere is also GrapheneOS and Calyx OS but I have no experience with those either. My understanding is they are along the same lines. I think that GrapheneOS comes with no Google Play Services and no MicroG (i.e. like “pure” LineageOS) but gives you the option of installing real Google Play Services (not MicroG) as a normal app as opposed to as a system app.
If you live in Canada I can help you get an international phone that you can install LineageOS or one of the others listed here.
Best regards,
The Fish