(Q) Keeping an app alive permanently - OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers

Hi all,
Few people have mentioned OnePlus for being aggressive with their app killing.
I hadn't noticed it personally until recently.
I have energy ring installed which I'm sure many of you guys have too, other apps seem to be fine and seem to be running normally but I could be wrong.
Energy ring if you didn't know is a ring that goes round the camera lens, visually showing what percentage you're roughly at.
Things I've tried:
Set to don't optimise in apps/settings
Locked it into the launcher to keep it alive
It is set to active in accessibility options
Running:
11.0.1.1 EU phone 2022BA with xXx installed and elemental X kernel.
There's not much else I can do without a secondary app so just thought I'd ask.
How are you keeping your apps alive when needed?
Cheers

Related

Speed Up Stock DHD

Anyone have any tips on how to speed up my DHD ? (other than rooting & installing a custom rom)
Have you turned USB debugging on?
Sometimes killing apps with app killer will help performance.
Also turning sync and other refreshable stuff off will help.
Switch off or use the least amount of things possible.
Anything that uses CPU cycles.
I would factory reset.
Then:
Settings - Power Saver - Disable most things.
Use static wallpaper. Use the least amount of widgets or try lighter ones or ones that don't need to update whenever they are highlighted.
Only have apps which you use - unless you know they don't update or take up energy in the background.
Switch off Flash or plugins in the browser - or set them to only work on demand.
Keep it clean and delete stuff you don't need or make sure it's on the SD Card.
Have a good screen protector so it stays clean and responsive.
Stroke your phone and whisper to it once in a while, to make sure it feels loved.
(My DHD is rooted but still on the original stock rom and it's nice and smooth, but I do most of the above with battery life/longer potential usage in mind.)
2 cents.

Watchdog detects Base System @ 60% frequently?!

Heyo bros so I'm experiencing what I'm afraid might be a problem:
I've been getting watchdog alerts regarding the "Base System" process. It notifies me that the CPU % at the time of the captures range from 40% to 60+%. Coincidence or not, it usually happens when I wake my phone from sleep- not when I unlock it, just when I press the power button. The moment the lock screen pops up, the phone's already vibrating and the watchdog notification is up in the status bar.
Battery life so far is:
9h 22m @ 74%; Phone Idle- 56% | Cell Standby- 22% | Display 17% (40m) | Android OS 3% | Voice calls- 3%
Who knows, maybe this^ looks normal. I just want to be sure.
I've heard talk of 'wakelocks' but I don't know exactly what they are, what might cause them, and how I can track them.
I'm currently running:
Atrix 4G (not 2, just for clarification)
CM7 xB^xN
Baseband reads: N_01.77.30P
Kernel version reads: 2.6.32.39-MB860-GB-Faux123-v0.2.1 [email protected] #14
Build number: GWK74
Totally honest, I don't know if that might be able to help diagnose the problem, but for what it's worth, I want to check two things:
1) I flashed Faux's enhanced stock CM7 kernel, and am pretty sure it took, but does that look to be the proper kernel version? I just want to be sure.
2) While I also flashed the "latest radio" in the CM7 xB^xN thread, I was certain there was an xx.97 radio (vs the x.77 radio that mine appears to currently have). Am I indeed on the latest radio version?
Would it hurt to reflash these two? Could either one, or maybe both, be the cause of this?
It also occurs to me: I've been using SetCPU and have ONE profile set up that forces my CPU to min/max 216/216 when the screen is off. Could that be causing it?
Thanks so much for any and all insight bros. Also, please let me know if there's any more info you might want to help diagnose what the dealio is.
Heyo guys,
I hate to bump this kinda soon, but this is definitely a problem.
It's getting to be that I don't even have to wake the phone up for the Base System to spike. I was woken up a couple times in the middle of the night by notifications saying it was really high.
You guys have any thoughts? I'd really like to get this resolved as CM7 is AWESOME.
Yes, you guessed it- I'm not anal about the fingerprint scanner or webtop. Just a stable and fully functional release.
Thanks for any help bros I really appreciate it.
Hi, new member here.
I get the same weird spike to 50-60% (and was woken up too in the middle of the night by watchdog). I have narrowed this occurrence to when I have both Watchdog & Juice Defender enabled at the same time. (Yeah it took me a while to figure out)
When I disable Juice defender the problem seems to go away. So I'm thinking one of the power saving settings turns the radio off & a core system process really does not like that.
This is on a non-rooted Atrix, I have not tested on a rooted Atrix.
So far I had to turn off the watchdog alarm so I can sleep. If anyone can think of a solution it would be appreciated!
AX-MA said:
Hi, new member here.
I get the same weird spike to 50-60% (and was woken up too in the middle of the night by watchdog). I have narrowed this occurrence to when I have both Watchdog & Juice Defender enabled at the same time. (Yeah it took me a while to figure out)
When I disable Juice defender the problem seems to go away. So I'm thinking one of the power saving settings turns the radio off & a core system process really does not like that.
This is on a non-rooted Atrix, I have not tested on a rooted Atrix.
So far I had to turn off the watchdog alarm so I can sleep. If anyone can think of a solution it would be appreciated!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the insight bro. For what it's worth, I'm not running Juice defender, or any other kind of battery saver app.
Looks like a couple of us are having problems then, though. We'd both really appreciate any info, advice, or help.
Ok, it seems it was just a coincidence with Juice Defender then.
The problem may be unrelated to power savings, but it is indeed a problem.
xyrovice said:
For what it's worth, I'm not running Juice defender, or any other kind of battery saver app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AX-MA said:
Ok, it seems it was just a coincidence with Juice Defender then.
The problem may be unrelated to power savings, but it is indeed a problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It doesn't have to be unrelated to power saving just because xyrovice is not running Juice Defender, there is a option for power saving in the battery settings for the Atrix that does a similar function.. Before ruling out power savings as unrelated I would make sure xyrovice is set to "performance mode".
WiredPirate said:
It doesn't have to be unrelated to power saving just because xyrovice is not running Juice Defender, there is a option for power saving in the battery settings for the Atrix that does a similar function.. Before ruling out power savings as unrelated I would make sure xyrovice is set to "performance mode".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm running CM7 and skimmed through the settings menu and didn't find anything about 0ower features. I know that in Blue ROMs there's the battery manager section, but I don't think CM7 has this. Anything else I should look at, though?
Thanks for the insight too bro.
xyrovice said:
I'm running CM7 and skimmed through the settings menu and didn't find anything about 0ower features. I know that in Blue ROMs there's the battery manager section, but I don't think CM7 has this. Anything else I should look at, though?
Thanks for the insight too bro.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
oIc, no I dont guess you will have those settings in CM, I should have thought of that. I wish I could help because I had the exact same prob with Watchdog constantly alerting for "Android Core Processes" and "Android Media processes", but I dont get those alerts anymore. I haven't changed ROMs or anything.. The only thing I can think of is I changed the MinFree values, I used the app "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" to change them.
WiredPirate said:
oIc, no I dont guess you will have those settings in CM, I should have thought of that. I wish I could help because I had the exact same prob with Watchdog constantly alerting for "Android Core Processes" and "Android Media processes", but I dont get those alerts anymore. I haven't changed ROMs or anything.. The only thing I can think of is I changed the MinFree values, I used the app "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" to change them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you know why that seemed to solve the problem...or if it even WAS the problem, per se?
Also, is there any reason CM7 would have the minfree set to a default that causes this?
Lastly, what did you alter the minfree values to? You think ROM toolbox might have this capability?
Thanks so much for saying this bro. Who knows, this might be the problem.
PS: I just tried this and am going to see if it works. Post #13 is the one that would really sum up my reaction of successful.
Hopefully maybe this helps my other bros.
xyrovice said:
1Do you know why that seemed to solve the problem...or if it even WAS the problem, per se?
2Also, is there any reason CM7 would have the minfree set to a default that causes this?
3Lastly, what did you alter the minfree values to? You think ROM toolbox might have this capability?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1.) no I can't say for sure what the problem was or why I no longer get the Watchdog alerts. I was just trying to think what I have changed since they stopped because I haven't changed ROMs.. Since changing the MinFree has to do with how many or what apps are left running I'm just kinda throwing it out there as a possibility since your at a loss for things to try.
2.) no I can't think of any reason, and most with CM don't have this prob right..?
3.) It's posible it does have the capability because it does allot but I am not sure.
Foreground 12
Visible 18
Secondary 36
Hidden 121
Content 129
Empty 137
possible solutionary steps I've taken:
So Update:
I actually ended up checking out my (partial) Wakelocks with betterbatterystats, and I think I may have found a problem (diagnosed with alarmdump.txt from the Alarm Manager):
1) When I first flashed CM7 I thought, "Oh well why not really get comprehensive about keeping apps up to date" and I actually, for every single app, checked the "Automatically update" box in each one's market page. This led to a CATACLYSMIC wakelock that I'm now pretty sure could be the problem.
2)Google talk also seemed to be a little active with the screen off so I unticked the "sign me in auto..." box and made sure I signed out.
Lastly (not related to wakelocks), I checked on my TTS settings (see my last post about that).
Oh also LASTLY lastly I froze the modem fastdormancy manager in TiBU (kinda just for ****s and giggles). That said though, is the consensus on this that it's pretty harmless?
So, other bro who was having a problem, check and see if this might help you at all AYY
WiredPirate said:
1.) no I can't say for sure what the problem was or why I no longer get the Watchdog alerts. I was just trying to think what I have changed since they stopped because I haven't changed ROMs.. Since changing the MinFree has to do with how many or what apps are left running I'm just kinda throwing it out there as a possibility since your at a loss for things to try.
2.) no I can't think of any reason, and most with CM don't have this prob right..?
3.) It's posible it does have the capability because it does allot but I am not sure.
Foreground 12
Visible 18
Secondary 36
Hidden 121
Content 129
Empty 137
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for posting this. I checked ROM toolbox and it does indeed have the capability. That said, if my aforementioned possible solutions don't work, I'm turning here. Thanks for the info bro.
Watchdog is flagging the "base process" app because IT IS using over 60% of your CPU BUT it is using 60% of your CPU that is running at 216MHZ.
It's your screen off setcpu profile of 216/216, if you bump up the max to 456 the alert will go away. When you have it set as 216/216 Watchdog (I believe) thinks that is the actual max cpu speed and bases its percentages off of that. I got that warning before and after a bit of troubleshooting (actually tried several different things) found that was the problem.
I am not sure but if you "whitelist" a app in watchdog it might ignore it as well. However my alert level was set at 80% and it would still set it off, so I think the higher speed might just be better.

Retired Nexus S 4g

I apologize if I should have put this elsewhere, I will learn rapidly I swear.
I recently switched carriers to Verizon for a GS3, this has left my old Nexus S 4g with little purpose in life. I want to set it up as a ipod touch like device for my fiancee but I am hesitant mostly because in its life as a phone it was riddled with problems both on stock and custom roms. The most prevalent of these issues was the fact that it would freeze up randomly and need the battery pulled. On the stock rom when this happened the homescreen buttons would light up but be non responsive and the screen would be lit but all black and was else wise unresponsive. I have searched for these symptoms on numerous occasions but never found any real info. On custom roms it would do much the same thing but the buttons didn't always light up. So I was wondering if anyone else ever experienced these problems and if they over came them. Also wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a rom to use that would keep my fiancee from tripping over some functionality that no longer works. I've read lots of rom descriptions and their are a great many choices but I need help narrowing it down. I currently have CM9 installed and I've use some of the tweaks to put the phone on airplane mode to disable the cell phone radio and hide the air plane icon and I have a launcher that lets me hide unusable apps like phone and messenger. Wondering if anyone had a more elegant solution.
convoy83 said:
I apologize if I should have put this elsewhere, I will learn rapidly I swear.
I recently switched carriers to Verizon for a GS3, this has left my old Nexus S 4g with little purpose in life. I want to set it up as a ipod touch like device for my fiancee but I am hesitant mostly because in its life as a phone it was riddled with problems both on stock and custom roms. The most prevalent of these issues was the fact that it would freeze up randomly and need the battery pulled. On the stock rom when this happened the homescreen buttons would light up but be non responsive and the screen would be lit but all black and was else wise unresponsive. I have searched for these symptoms on numerous occasions but never found any real info. On custom roms it would do much the same thing but the buttons didn't always light up. So I was wondering if anyone else ever experienced these problems and if they over came them. Also wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a rom to use that would keep my fiancee from tripping over some functionality that no longer works. I've read lots of rom descriptions and their are a great many choices but I need help narrowing it down. I currently have CM9 installed and I've use some of the tweaks to put the phone on airplane mode to disable the cell phone radio and hide the air plane icon and I have a launcher that lets me hide unusable apps like phone and messenger. Wondering if anyone had a more elegant solution.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would suggest running Provision as your ROM, with Air Kernal. The consider using the Xperia Home Launcher; that will allow you to hide apps like the phone and limit the number of screens.
Slimrom 3.0 is good since it has no bloatware and it already has a launcher that allows hiding of unused apps on home screen and app drawer.
Put the phone on airplane mode and ur good to go for a WiFi media player for music, movies, games and browser.
Once the kernel settles in, u should have great battery life.
Good luck
Just make sure u flash the basic slim ROM gapps... the one without Google now and other battery sucking apps
Vs Nexus S4G using tapatalk2

[Q] Turn off CPU status notification

I just installed the latest (( ROM )) Sacs Custom 4.3 Rom 1-26-14 V5.5 ultra onto my GS4 and I love the ROM. I love the ROM and only have one complaint and I'm hoping it will be easy to resolve. There is a nearly constant display of CPU usage in the left side of the Notification panel. It is flashing numbers about every 5 seconds. When I open Notifications I also see a small bar just below the widgets that displays status for CPU0-CPU3. I assume the two are related.
Anyway, I want to turn it off since it crushes my battery display, burns through my battery faster, and is generally annoying. I have not been able to find a way to disable this...feature. I don't see it in Pimp My Rom although I am wary to mess with anything in there.
Can someone please tell me how to turn this off. It's driving me crazy.
Thanks,
S

Smart doctor-conserve memory setting missing

Hello
After i updated to oreo i did a factory reset then i installed all my apps .I wanted to use the conserve memory in smart doctor (smart doctor->tap memory->tap three dots->conserve memory).This saved a lot of ram and battery.What can i do?
Oreo does already a preaty good job managing the memory. No need for that setting (even in Nougat there is no real reason).
You can use greenify for that, or even Servicely - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.servicely
DJPRMF said:
Oreo does already a preaty good job managing the memory. No need for that setting (even in Nougat there is no real reason).
You can use greenify for that, or even Servicely - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.servicely
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Idk why but It got significantly slower since the update.The big problem is that is slower in the ui.Before the update hearthstone was lagging a lot but now everything with this phone is lagging.I honestly don't know what to do.Maybe the phone is faulty?
Check you backgroud apps... Maybe is one there that is using more resources.
Interesting... as far as I know on Nougat, disabling some crucial system apps (or even using adb to uninstall them without root) was causing this option to disappear. Yesterday I started disabling some bloatware on my Oreo H870 and I was like "hey, does this option already disappeared?" and yes... it was gone... so I proceed to disable more stuff
But you say that it's gone anyway... As DJPRMF mentioned - Oreo does really good job with memory management. You can also disable background activity for some apps so it's better than on Nougat in my opinion.
romcio47 said:
Interesting... as far as I know on Nougat, disabling some crucial system apps (or even using adb to uninstall them without root) was causing this option to disappear. Yesterday I started disabling some bloatware on my Oreo H870 and I was like "hey, does this option already disappeared?" and yes... it was gone... so I proceed to disable more stuff
But you say that it's gone anyway... As DJPRMF mentioned - Oreo does really good job with memory management. You can also disable background activity for some apps so it's better than on Nougat in my opinion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Idk but i think that is something wrong with my unit.I mean after the update and factory reset i started to witness freezing and stuttering and not in games because i even deleted them (hearthstone is just so laggy on my phone idk why) my phone froze in the home screen and in youtube. When i checked to see if there is a misbehaving app in the battery usage setting there was nothing everything was normal. I honestly don't know what to do.I can't send it on warranty right now because i need the phone. Any advice?
ThE J0K3r said:
Idk but i think that is something wrong with my unit.I mean after the update and factory reset i started to witness freezing and stuttering and not in games because i even deleted them (hearthstone is just so laggy on my phone idk why) my phone froze in the home screen and in youtube. When i checked to see if there is a misbehaving app in the battery usage setting there was nothing everything was normal. I honestly don't know what to do.I can't send it on warranty right now because i need the phone. Any advice?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's really hard to tell what's the real cause. I also have problems on Oreo but they're not that annoying (practically only related to battery life but NOT standby time which is perfect now). About the stuttering - I also can't say anything, I have absolutely no games installed on my phone.
Try enabling Developer Options (tapping build number 7 times on About Phone) and there is an option to see running services / active services (idk how it's named in English) which is old-style Android task "manager" where you can see RAM usage for currently running and cached-in-memory apps. Maybe you'll find something there?
romcio47 said:
It's really hard to tell what's the real cause. I also have problems on Oreo but they're not that annoying (practically only related to battery life but NOT standby time which is perfect now). About the stuttering - I also can't say anything, I have absolutely no games installed on my phone.
Try enabling Developer Options (tapping build number 7 times on About Phone) and there is an option to see running services / active services (idk how it's named in English) which is old-style Android task "manager" where you can see RAM usage for currently running and cached-in-memory apps. Maybe you'll find something there?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I looked in that setting but all was normal.I just saw the apps like google and twitter,facebook and mostly things i know i use. The thing is that when i was scrolling to see the list of apps there the scrolling motion was just so laggy. I forgot to mention the battery life that dropped from 5-6 hours sot to barely 4 hours and it's not that i have stopped using it. Idk why this phone is behaving like this.I don't even have it for a full year(just 7 months).I honestly don't know what to do.I have a friend who owns a honor 7 lite and it runs hearthstone perfectly my g6 just lags in it.

Categories

Resources