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Hey guys, I believe we are going to need a general thread to report and discuss Nexus S bugs so here it is!
Let me start by reporting what I found so far.
1. Screen does not respond to the first/second touch after unlock.
2. Email app (not Gmail) does not zoom in/out. We are talking about a really bad experienced when displaying HTML emails.
3. Again for Mail app signature is not included when you create mail straight from Contacts.
4. SMS Delivery Reports are a MESS. Send SMS to a person getting delivery report pop-up for another completely unrelated number while the original message is still pending. We are talking about a disaster here lool
5. Also for the SMS Delivery reports. Pop up notification display the number and not the contact's name.
6. Many websites are causing the browser to act very slow for none reason. (with Flash activated or deactivated). Major example androidcentral.com. I found many websites that causing major lag on browser.
7. MMS are blurry as reported by many
8. Battery Never charge to 100% even if your phone displays 100% it drops to 97% once you unplug it. If I remember correctly I had the same problem with Nexus One.
9. Calendar Widget does not display "Today's" events
10. Google forgot to put Digital Zoom on Camera App. (And yes digital zoom is worthless but many people for some reason like it and miss it.)
11. Not really a bug, but if you notice on Gingerbread Google placed the keyboard 1cm above the bottom of the screen, is not located all the way to the bottom of the screen like previous Android versions. that 1cm is more than enought for me to hit blank screen and not the space bar when I am typing.
12. On keyboard you have to press and hold to select a smile icon. Then you need to keep holding your finger down until you actually select what you want.
13. There is not multiple select threats on messaging. So If I want to delete multiple threads I have to do it one by one...
14. Contacts Associated with Facebook Contacts have a really blurry really bad quality picture on caller id.
Wishlist:
1. We are on Android 2.3 and Google still doesn't giving us the option to install different locales. I mean not many people care for Language Menus but we do need the official Keyboard to add other freaking Languages. This is ridiculous...
2. Copy Paste is well improve but is very immature. Evey app use different method to generate copy and paste.
3. Hardware-wise the phone supports flawless 720p video recording. Why Google didn't include it?
4. The phone needs a native video-call app. Google needs to update Gtalk ASAP.
5. Called ID picture is way too small for this gorgeous 4 inch Super Amoled display.
add to error-list:
13. facebook sync is not working 100% correct - i got many gmail contacts witch are not synced with the facebook contact (would not be that bad but my girlfriends contact is not syncing right)
ad to Wishlist:
5. notificatins led would be cool ... (SMS, MSS, MAIL, ...) nut the 3 would be very very cool ...
I agree with it all. My main issue is the 'deadzone' which is the 1cm edge of the touch screen.
nMIK-3 said:
8. Battery Never charge to 100% even if your phone displays 100% it drops to 97% once you unplug it. If I remember correctly I had the same problem with Nexus One.
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This is NOT a bug. This is by design.
To elaborate, from the stickied FAQ:
unremarked said:
Q: I unplugged my phone, and my battery dropped from 100% to 95% immediately, or it won't/takes along time to charge past 99%, what gives?
This is by design. Your phone will slow down and eventually stop pulling charge at or slightly greater than ~95% regardless of what your battery indicator says. This is to extend the overall life of the battery, as constant 100% to 0% charge/discharge cycles will cause it to fail prematurely. If you're interested in really pushing it to 100%, you can use a technique that is called "bump charging" and is better detailed here: http://bit.ly/f6xiZ0/
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unremarked said:
This is NOT a bug. This is by design.
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Not sure what you mean.
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Not sure what you mean.
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Sorry, jumped the gun a little. See the quote I edited in.
Like I said, this is by design.
EDIT: I also have some of the things you've pointed out listed in the Known Issues section of the FAQ, and some that you don't have.
BUG: touch screen area
the bug i've found so far... (which can be fixed by a screen calibration app)
the first half inch of the screen right above the 4 soft buttons, are not very responsive, unless you use your finger tips
so when you Naturally use the THUMB to press those quick shortcuts from Launcher Pro, or stock Android Launcher it won't react.... which is rather annoying.
never had that problem with the SGS
I started a thread over at Android Central to get people to visit reported issues to Google and star them. Here's the list so far. Let's add to it.
1) Random ringtone/notification tone changes: Ringtones assigned to contacts do not maintain assignment after a reboot
2) Disappearing App icons on the home screen or difficulty in moving them: Disappearing Home Screen Icons
3) Disappearing photos from the Gallery:
Issue 13419 - android - New pictures disappear in Gallery - Project Hosting on Google Code
4) Repeal the 15-min return policy in App Market (it used to be 24 hours): Issue 13116 - android - Change refund time in Market. 15min is way to little. - Project Hosting on Google Code
5) Accelerometer not working after using Sky Maps: Nexus S-Accelerometer will not work after using Sky Maps
6) After screen times out, you can't bring it back when using speakerphone or earbuds: after screen times out, you can't bring it back when using speakerphone or earbuds
Hmm, that deadzone seems like it'll be a troublesome issue for me... Can you please post a picture of the keyboard displacement? (I haven't got my NS yet, so I don't know how it looks)
i don't know if this is one of the error.. but the charging time is ridiculous. i could charge up to 2 hours and still not finish charging.. the battery run out ridiculously fast too.. with normal usage it barely manage more than half a day.. i adjust my screen brightness to the minimum level and turn off background data and auto sync (i just turn them on when i needed them), and use it to play a little bit of games and watching movies.. 8 hours is around the best time i got..
another known issue is poor wifi signal =(..i am standing 1 meter from my router and the signal could drop from full bar to 1 bar while my sister macbook could receive wifi from another room that is quite far from the router..
Something I noticed yesterday was notification tones almost nonexistent despite the volume being at full blast. When pressing the volume rocker I barely hear anything. I fixed this by rebooting the phone but still something that's a little alarming.
Not sure if it was mentioned, but i hope they fix the MMS/image upload orientation issue
I dont know if this is considered a nexus bug, but...
-Youtube app, if I search for, select, and watch a video...after completion, if I press search again, and type something in, after hitting enter it simply clears the search screen and returns to finished video. In order to make a new search I have to back back back all the way to the first youtube screen or force close/reopen youtube app. Again this is using the provided youtube app, not youtube mobile
I haven't experienced any of the things in that list, but then again they are pretty app specific and I don't use any of those apps. One thing I did experience was the Facebook app just logged me out and lost all my contact sync settings. This happened to me twice, but it is more likely a Facebook problem and not Gingerbread.
Oh, I did notice the battery charge thing but like someone else mentioned I don't consider that a bug.
Don't worry about that web sight lag I get that on my nexus one going to android central
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androidaddict23 said:
Don't worry about that web sight lag I get that on my nexus one going to android central
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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I get it going to Androidcentral and Techcrunch on my desktop/Nexus too.
How about this, I really wish they would fix it, slightly annoying
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/31/android-still-has-horrible-text-messaging-bugs-thatll-get-you-f/
slowz3r said:
How about this, I really wish they would fix it, slightly annoying
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/31/android-still-has-horrible-text-messaging-bugs-thatll-get-you-f/
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work around install Hancent SMS
AllGamer said:
work around install Hancent SMS
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i used to use handsent on my MT3G and only feature i liked was quick reply
slowz3r said:
How about this, I really wish they would fix it, slightly annoying
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/31/android-still-has-horrible-text-messaging-bugs-thatll-get-you-f/
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I have no idea what they're talking about. o_o I have almost always used the stock Messaging app on every Android phone I've ever owned (and I've owned a fair share of them, see sig) and never once have I had a problem anywhere CLOSE to what they're reporting.
I've only ever had two issues with messaging was on the Nexus One, it's weak 3G/phone signal would cause alot of messages to not send randomly. And the other was my GF would sometimes receive duplicates of messages after flashing/reflashing/restoring things on my G2. Interestingly enough, no one else told me they were getting duplicates 'cept for her.
EDIT: Beyond that, I take what Engadget says with a great grain of salt. I consider them to be the FOX News(instead of the GOP, it's Apple) of phone/technology blogs.
Update: List of issues available
Dear All:
Since this thread began, we have vented our frustration here, but most importantly, we have done that in an organized manner, by listing our issues in categories. I thank you all for staying on topic, and providing the much needed information in such great detail.
The purpose of the thread was to provide a comprehensive list of all the issues/annoyances/bugs we faced after upgrading to Froyo's EB13 Build, to the developers on this forum, as well as to those at Samsung. Squshy 7, a diligent member of this forum, printed the whole thread(!!), analyzed the information and complied a list of all the issues posted in this thread and others, to serve the purpose of this thread. Great job, Squshy 7!
I hope that based on this list, which is, for now, attached to this post as a Word document (and is posted by Squshy 7 later in the thread), we can receive great feedback from the developers and can soon receive the fixed version of EB13 from our own and Samsung's developers. Wonders of uninvited, but essential, crowdsourcing models! I wish companies realized the benefits of such models of business in this day and age.
I have PMed a mod to insert a second post to this thread so I can paste the complete list in that post.
The following is the original post of this thread. Thank you.
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I am aware there is already a thread about bugs resulting after the latest EB13 update, but I did not see a thread where all the bugs were listed in an organized way. It would be very helpful if we have all the bugs compiled as a list from this thread here in a dedicated thread meant to be seen by Samsung developers, especially SamsungJohn. It would be great if SamsungJohn, continuing the spirit of partnership with the community, can take this list and work toward providing a patch for all the issues after the update as soon as he/Samsung can.
I would greatly appreciate if people, who received their update OTA, would chime in, too.
I am listing the following information about my method of update and the issues/bugs I am facing.
Method of update:
I was on Stock rooted ROM (DI18), with some Sprint apps uninstalled, so I had to use Odin to flash back to a complete Stock ROM. After using the Odin method to flash a Stock ROM, I installed the "update.zip" file from Samsung's Web site to update Eclair (DI18) to Froyo (EB13).
List of issues/bugs:
Sound/Volume:-
- The maximum volume is less louder than what it was on DI18 (some have reported this issue)
- Sound playing at 70% (rough estimate) or above loses fidelity coming out of the speaker of the phone, which is quite frustrating and disappointing, especially when the issue did not exist on Eclair (DI18)
Android Browser:-
- Checkerboard issue
- Unable to open more than four links. The "Open in new window" option does not appear if there are already four windows open
Camera/Camcorder/Video:-
- While recording video in low light, the video lags a lot, rendering the camcorder essentially useless for capturing precious moments anywhere and everywhere
- Selecting the "Sport" mode on the camera force closes the camera app
- There is no option to stop the geotagging of the pics taken by the default Camera app (strange, to say the least)
Screen:-
- On occasions, the screen goes blank and does not come alive until several seconds seconds later, or does not come alive at all
- There is a significant lag (about 2 seconds) in rotating from portrait to landscape, and from landscape to portrait orientation
GPS:-
- Not much better than the buggy GPS in Eclair (even after six months!)
Wifi:-
- The connection to Wifi suddenly drops after a random number of hours. The attempt to turn Wifi back on, from the Settings menu, or the Status/Notification Bar, results in an error, or the Wifi doesn't turn on. To turn the Wifi on, the device needs to be rebooted, or, the radio needs to be turned off and on.
Gsensor:-
- The direction shown by the pointer in Google Maps is wrong by 180 degrees
Operating System:-
- I have several apps moved to the SD card. After a reboot, icons for the apps which reside on the SD card, do not load for a minute or so
- I also noted that the icons of apps on the SD card, organized in a folder on the Home screen, fail to load completely, several times
- A folder shortcut for Pandora fails to load it's icon after a reboot
Please list your method of update and the issues/bugs in an organized manner on this thread, otherwise, the purpose of the thread will be defeated. After we have listed almost all the issues with the EB13 update, it would be a good idea to create a poll to find the number of people experiencing each of the issues. A poll at this time is useless as we do not know the exact number of issues.
Anyone who will post, please organize your issues and categorize them (even if it is a very loose categorization), as it would be much easier for a developer on this forum or from Samsung, to use an organized list of issues and get us closer to receiving fixes as they would have enough information in the form of a list.
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My EB14 update
Samsung update tool to EB13
Have yet to fully test EB13 but the first glaringly obvious problem is Samsung's infamous "Time without Signal" issue.
First 6 hours running EB13, TWS was 50%
Hours 6 - 12 running EB13 and using "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround, TWS was 1%.
Battery drain was significantly less after using the "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround to temporarily fix the issue.
From everything I have read the TWS bug is caused by the phones modem.bin programing continuously hunting for a GSM signal. Since the phone is CDMA and has no GSM hardware it will never find one, causing significant battery drain. I have also read that this bug is not limited to the Epic, but effects multiple Samsung CDMA hardware platforms. There is no way that Samsung could be unaware of this issue.
twolostminds said:
Samsung update tool to EB13
Have yet to fully test EB13 but the first glaringly obvious problem is Samsung's infamous "Time without Signal" issue.
First 6 hours running EB13, TWS was 50%
Hours 6 - 12 running EB13 and using "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround, TWS was 1%.
Battery drain was significantly less after using the "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround to temporarily fix the issue.
From everything I have read the TWS bug is caused by the phones modem.bin programing continuously hunting for a GSM signal. Since the phone is CDMA and has no GSM hardware it will never find one, causing significant battery drain. I have also read that this bug is not limited to the Epic, but effects multiple Samsung CDMA hardware platforms. There is no way that Samsung could be unaware of this issue.
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Thanks for your input. I was hoping we would categorize our issues in terms of Camera issue, Sound issue, etc., so your issue is a battery issue. If you don't mind, I will place the text of your issue as the following, in this post:
Method of update:
Samsung update tool to EB13
List of issues/bugs:
Battery (and Modem):-
Battery drain was significantly less after using the "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround to temporarily fix the issue.
From everything I have read the TWS bug is caused by the phones modem.bin programing continuously hunting for a GSM signal. Since the phone is CDMA and has no GSM hardware it will never find one, causing significant battery drain. I have also read that this bug is not limited to the Epic, but effects multiple Samsung CDMA hardware platforms. There is no way that Samsung could be unaware of this issue.
Anyone who will post, please organize your issues and categorize them, as it would be much easier for a developer on this forum or from Samsung, to use an organized list of issues and get us closer to receiving fixes as they would have enough information in the form of a list.
Stock di18, unrooted, stock recovery...used update.zip, then dameons deodexed. same bugs throughout
Camera: terrible video lag in low light
Broswer:
prbly app related..all my bookmarks imported correctly, but from the browser I can't access the bookmark list or browsing history...there's literally no option to view them. And the shortcut from the old browser of holding the back button to view them doesn't work either.
And massive checkerboarding
General: overall rotation lag, even after calibration
Battery/radio: haven't noticed a terrible drain on the battery,but I too have the TWS bug. Hangs right at 50%. (On a side note, what's th airplane trick. PM me the answer so as to not clutter this thread)
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
I've had some of the same issues mentioned by others in many of these threads, but one I've had that I haven't seen mentioned else where is gaps in the Application screen.
I applied update.exe from a stock DI18. Since the Clock app added timer and stopwatch functions, I uninstalled a couple of other apps that were now redundant. But instead of the App pages condensing, I now have gaps when I'm in grid view. I'm sorry I don't feel like I'm explaining this well...
I have 7 pages in Applications grid view. In the past, removing an app meant that all the apps shifted so there would be one less App on page 7. Now, if the app I remove is on page 2, it creates a gap at the bottom right of page 2, and all the other pages are unchanged.
Sorry, OP, I'm not really sure how to categorize that for this list, but I hope this helps it get addressed.
incisivekeith said:
Thanks for your input. I was hoping we would categorize our issues in terms of Camera issue, Sound issue, etc., so your issue is a battery issue. If you don't mind, I will place the text of your issue as the following, in this post:
Method of update:
Samsung update tool to EB13
List of issues/bugs:
Battery:-
Battery drain was significantly less after using the "Airplane Mode Toggle" workaround to temporarily fix the issue.
From everything I have read the TWS bug is caused by the phones modem.bin programing continuously hunting for a GSM signal. Since the phone is CDMA and has no GSM hardware it will never find one, causing significant battery drain. I have also read that this bug is not limited to the Epic, but effects multiple Samsung CDMA hardware platforms. There is no way that Samsung could be unaware of this issue.
Anyone who will post, please organize your issues and categorize them, as it would be much easier for a developer on this forum or from Samsung, to use an organized list of issues and get us closer to receiving fixes as they would have enough information in the form of a list.
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Is there any way your can cross categorize this issue (Battery & Modem) as it is a Battery issue directly caused by a known Modem.bin bug?
What you are seeing is normal for the new version of touch wiz.
On the handset
Unlock Device
Press 'Applications'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'Edit'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'a-z sort'
That should resort the icon's to the way you are used to seeing them.
Thank you.
Update method samsung update tool.
Same issues as stated in the first post on this thread.
One more annoying bug that I'm also having is when I try to open the sms app it will often open a app that was previously running like contacts dialer or log I would find myself having to reset the phone to get the sms app to work properly. Oh yeah I noticed my battery is draining a lot faster too. To me this seems like dk28 was just renamed eb13. There is nothing that set this build apart from dk28 except the name change.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
mindinfiltrator said:
What you are seeing is normal for the new version of touch wiz.
On the handset
Unlock Device
Press 'Applications'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'Edit'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'a-z sort'
That should resort the icon's to the way you are used to seeing them.
Thank you.
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Holy crap, I had no idea. Thanks! I'd seen the new Edit option in the menu, but never thought to hit the Menu button a second time.
Was this documented somewhere that I should have seen?
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Is there any way your can cross categorize this issue (Battery & Modem) as it is a Battery issue directly caused by a known Modem.bin bug?
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I have re-categorized your issue.
The only purpose of this thread is to just provide a quick list of issues/bugs to the people who can use it to fix the outstanding issues, soon. Again, thanks to everyone going through the extra trouble of categorizing and listing their issues in an organized manner. I certainly hope this exercise produces the intended results. Are you reading SamsungJohn?
mindinfiltrator said:
What you are seeing is normal for the new version of touch wiz.
On the handset
Unlock Device
Press 'Applications'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'Edit'
Press 'Menu Button'
Press 'a-z sort'
That should resort the icon's to the way you are used to seeing them.
Thank you.
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Mods, please delete this (my) post. I had misunderstood the above post as a solution to one of the issues I had listed, while it is actually addressing another issue in this thread.
blackdragon79 said:
Update method samsung update tool.
Same issues as stated in the first post on this thread.
One more annoying bug that I'm also having is when I try to open the sms app it will often open a app that was previously running like contacts dialer or log I would find myself having to reset the phone to get the sms app to work properly. Oh yeah I noticed my battery is draining a lot faster too. To me this seems like dk28 was just renamed eb13. There is nothing that set this build apart from dk28 except the name change.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
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Seems like you have issues with the SMS and Battery categories.
Please categorize your issues. Without categorizing and organizing issues, we will have a thread identical to the thread related to the bugs, which would make this thread redundant, and defeats the purpose of this thread. Thank you.
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Mods, please delete this post. I had misunderstood the above post as a solution to one of the issues I had listed, while it is actually addressing another issue in this thread.
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I'll probably just go back to LauncherPro... I cannot seem to find the sort button after it goes into edit mode... on my screen it just looks like and iPhone.
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I'll probably just go back to LauncherPro... I cannot seem to find the sort button after it goes into edit mode... on my screen it just looks like and iPhone.
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You go into edit mode and then hit the menu button again.
squshy 7 said:
Stock di18, unrooted, stock recovery...used update.zip, then dameons deodexed. same bugs throughout
Camera: terrible video lag in low light
Broswer:
prbly app related..all my bookmarks imported correctly, but from the browser I can't access the bookmark list or browsing history...there's literally no option to view them. And the shortcut from the old browser of holding the back button to view them doesn't work either.
And massive checkerboarding
General: overall rotation lag, even after calibration
Battery/radio: haven't noticed a terrible drain on the battery,but I too have the TWS bug. Hangs right at 50%. (On a side note, what's th airplane trick. PM me the answer so as to not clutter this thread)
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
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the bookmarks dont have an option , when you click the bookmark button at top near the address bar it brings them up
camera
Camera/Video issue.
Updated via Samsung tool from straight stock.
The video is blurry as noted in low light, but what's even more of an issue is that it force closes whenever you try to select "sports mode" It screws up the phone so bad that after it goes into sleep mode once force closing it will not wake back up. Only a battery pull will get it to respond. I've seen this issue noted across at least 3 other forums, but haven't seen it addressed in this one yet.
Thanks-
Bump
Keep postin guys. The OP and myself want as much info as possible. I will be compiling this thread on Sunday to get a 1st draft out there.
Please, categorize your issues (ALL of them), feel free to agree with other peoples issues (but be SPECIFIC), and stay ON TOPIC!
THANKS
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
I used Samsung's online tool and I am having GPS lock issues.
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I used Samsung's online tool and I am having GPS lock issues.
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Thanks. I am restating what you said, as below, for simplicity of searching later.
Update method:
Samsung's online tool (.exe)
Issue:
GPS:-
Takes long time to lock.
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Bump
Keep postin guys. The OP and myself want as much info as possible. I will be compiling this thread on Sunday to get a 1st draft out there.
Please, categorize your issues (ALL of them), feel free to agree with other peoples issues (but be SPECIFIC), and stay ON TOPIC!
THANKS
Sent from my baked and emotionless SPH-D700
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Thanks, squshy 7, for offering to compile a list of all the issues!
Method of Update:
Downloaded Samsung tool (.exe) from Samsung website
Bugs:
O/S - Time without Signal. Gotta toggle airplane mode to fix it.
Browser - Also seeing checkerboard effect when zooming/panning
Messaging - Not sure if it's the network, Handcent or EB13 but I'm receiving text messages with a space after each letter. If I restart Handcent it goes away but then comes back intermittently. Not sure if anyone else is seeing this issue.
:fingers-crossed::laugh:
YouTube Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjR2PxJmcsk
ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF THIS ANDROID 7 ON Z3+.
Advantages..
1. Battery is lasting more than MM.
2. Stamina mode comes with 3 level stamina features.
3. Split Screen Apps are awesome.
4. Heating is less, I think they avhieved that by closing the background apps.
5.Camera app doesnt heatup the phone and lasts open till 5 min( I checked for 5 minutes only may be it ll show heating warning after that, I just dont know about it).
6. Now both the wallpaper and lockscreen can be handled easily with the same option WALLPAPER provided at SETTING app.
Disadvantages.
1. The Icons for the apps CONTACTS, MESSAGING, PHONE, CAMERA are so ugly.
2. One cannot go to the homepage by clicking recent navbar and then by clicking at the clear space of the recent apps menu.
3. While phone is locked the phone doesnt react to double tap unlock like it used to be in MM.
4. While the phone is locked the Icons of battery, network, clock etc are placed slightly lower than the Icons placed in the unlocked screen. LOCKING UNLOCKING CREATES AN UGLY LOOK OF MISPLACEMENT OF THESE ICONS.
5. The Battery icon in the status bar is too weird. ( Doesnt like it look).
6. The Data traffic indicator ( the small arrows up and down are way too small, the indicator which shows below 2g, 3g, H+ and LTE on the status bar)
7. They removed the option of selecting the FOCUS MODE in the camera app.
8. I compared the pictures taken by my phone when its in LP, MM AND N, I must say in LP this phone used to capture photos brilliantly, in MM the pics are somewhat lower than LP. But in N the pics quality are not upto marks. I think thats all because of this focus thing. Now the phone focus the way it wants to).
9. Remove/ Quit apps wisely, I am downloading some apps from UC BROWSER and then I exit the app and keep the downloading in the background but when I cleared the app from the recent apps list just to make my recent app section to look empty, it stopped my downloading too and the APP UC BROWSER was completely shut. (This option is in LP TOO BUT NOT IN MM) So close apps wisely.
11. They abandoned the small apps, Yes they are there but not easily accessible, now accessing small apps are quit pain in the ASS.
12. The apps in the Recent apps looks very big.
13. New quick tiles are good but one cannot direct shut data from there.
Thats all dear Fellas, I like the UI OF MM more than this N.
I THINK SONY JUST BAKED THIS N FOR US IN HURRY.
If I missed anything than please guys you can add that on your comments.
I really think the Android N update is very good for this device. Camera quality has improved in N - try some low light shots - noise is much lower. The UI is very fluid.
For my device not update notice for now...but I see that in Russia update is out in these days...
So, for now I can't comment about N on my Z3+...but thank you very much for this thread...I hope more users tell opinions about this new update...
I would like to learn more about:
- camera is more fast or not, compared to MM? About picture quality seems the two different opinions are contrary..so, other user opinion about camera?
- N as it looks in terms of reactivity on our device?
- Audio? From speakers and in headset? There are some new optimizations or similar?
Thanks in advance to all
I checked xpericheck and Ru customisation and in ARENT THERE! They delete it or what?
kiosk123 said:
I checked xpericheck and Ru customisation and in ARENT THERE! They delete it or what?
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Yes..seems that deleted on every customization...
DomusX10 said:
Yes..seems that deleted on every customization...
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Why? Maybe they add some features (manual camera settings etc.) or this update have many erros....
kiosk123 said:
Why? Maybe they add some features (manual camera settings etc.) or this update have many erros....
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Hope that removed for the reasons you've mentioned :fingers-crossed:
Using Nougat Indian Firmware
Advantages-
1. Camera quality is better
2. Split screen
3. Smooth Ui
4. Performance Enhancment
5. Battery backup improved
6. Brightness dim Issue in sunlight is fixed upto great extent
7. Heating issue is much more solved
Disadvantages ( Huge list but Listing major one)
1. Touch issue (Lackness in touch sensitivity)
2. No manual Focus in Camera Menu
3. Sound Quality reduced (Vibrations in back panel)
4. Can't download apps frome playstore in Roaming.
5. Now we have to double tap to activate data from notification bar
So, its better to push updates for fixing these problems. I hope sony would release updates.
Number 4 and 5 from @ag_themes list are customisation dependent. Both are not present in Russian Nougat that also was on servers before withdrawal.
Also I don't have any touch issues. The sound problems mentioned are the main reason of update withdrawal.
Btw. No overheating is probably connected with reduced usage of a57 cores. Nougat uses them rarely comparing to marshmallow (some report says they are disabled in nougat).
Can someone upload Russian fw? I want to flash it
Using Android Nougat on India Version
Split Screen is advantage (but not many app support however you can force them to)
Slightly more responsive ( like 5 percent)
camera is same (with an added option in manual mode)
audio is also similar
i feel battery consumption when device is used is same ( maybe doze helps when phone is in sleep but i didnt notice much improvement)
My device hanged once (in youtube app). Restarted itself after 5 mins.
Indirect access to small apps ( i never really used them)
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Other things such as detailed (two taps to toggle) mobile data , wifi and bluetooth. Displays important things on settings , NOtification quick reply these are android N features sony didnt mess with
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I feel its an simple upgrade of API . Everything else is similar to MM.
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drigger_one said:
Using Android Nougat on India Version
Split Screen is advantage (but not many app support however you can force them to)
Slightly more responsive ( like 5 percent)
camera is same (with an added option in manual mode)
audio is also similar
i feel battery consumption when device is used is same ( maybe doze helps when phone is in sleep but i didnt notice much improvement)
My device hanged once (in youtube app). Restarted itself after 5 mins.
Indirect access to small apps ( i never really used them)
{
Other things such as detailed (two taps to toggle) mobile data , wifi and bluetooth. Displays important things on settings , NOtification quick reply these are android N features sony didnt mess with
}
I feel its an simple upgrade of API . Everything else is similar to MM.
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Is your phone is ringing on calls? Mine doesnt ringing from the day I updated to nougat.
Yes it is.
Make sure you have applied a ringtone and its not in Do Not Disturb mode.
arokososoo said:
Is your phone is ringing on calls? Mine doesnt ringing from the day I updated to nougat.
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Mine did the same thing. After restart it is working fine now.
Can someone share the ftf?
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waseemakhtar said:
Mine did the same thing. After restart it is working fine now.
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Not working even after restarting several times
arokososoo said:
Not working even after restarting several times
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Mine working fine after update. Try clean reflash and install apps from play store NOT from backup.
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[email protected] said:
Mine working fine after update. Try clean reflash and install apps from play store NOT from backup.
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HELLO PRASHAD, I HEARD YOU GET ROOT WITHOUT UNLOCKING BL? Some guy is spreading that news. Is it true?
arokososoo said:
HELLO PRASHAD, I HEARD YOU GET ROOT WITHOUT UNLOCKING BL? Some guy is spreading that news. Is it true?
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Nope, not true. With out bootloader unlock, it is impossible to root the device.
IOVYROOT will get temp root access to backup the TA Partition, but after reboot, the device loses the root access. It is only for taking backup, you can not modify the system. If you try to modify the system with temp root access, your device will be dead after reboot.
I have been on vacation for the past 10 days mostly. Using my wife's iPhone for pics, which has made me realize how bad the OP 6t native camera app is. Two pain points in particular:
1) Two finger zoom is extremely choppy, jumping in increments that make it difficult to compose well
2) Pano stitching misses at least 30% of the time, often grossly so, and often in good light
3) No voice triggers for the camera. Maybe I need to observe proper technique from Asian ladies but I find it near impossible to compose and trigger the shutter when doing a selfie with the missus with an outstretched hand. I used to have a LG many moons ago they you could configure to respond to "cheese" and "kimchi".
Any suggestions? I understand that third party apps loose access to the detailed hardware drivers, filtering and demosaic algorithms, but it is not like OP does a particularly good job at that too (colors are too saturated and the overall rendition is often quite dark).
GroovyGeek said:
I have been on vacation for the past 10 days mostly. Using my wife's iPhone for pics, which has made me realize how bad the OP 6t native camera app is. Two pain points in particular:
1) Two finger zoom is extremely choppy, jumping in increments that make it difficult to compose well
2) Pano stitching misses at least 30% of the time, often grossly so, and often in good light
3) No voice triggers for the camera. Maybe I need to observe proper technique from Asian ladies but I find it near impossible to compose and trigger the shutter when doing a selfie with the missus with an outstretched hand. I used to have a LG many moons ago they you could configure to respond to "cheese" and "kimchi".
Any suggestions? I understand that third party apps loose access to the detailed hardware drivers, filtering and demosaic algorithms, but it is not like OP does a particularly good job at that too (colors are too saturated and the overall rendition is often quite dark).
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Try Open Camera
Try out gcam. Stock cam is garbage. Videos are fine tho.
It's another world with gcam.
Cdneyes said:
Try Open Camera
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Wow, just what the doctor ordered. Can't quite figure out if it does panos but that is probably because of the gazillion settings I have to go through. I also can't get the 6t to launch it by default with a power button double tap. Still goes for the stock app despite me setting open cam as the default camera app. Maybe I need to reboot.
reppi said:
Try out gcam. Stock cam is garbage. Videos are fine tho.
It's another world with gcam.
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I have tried gcam in the past but it always seemed buggy. Can you point me to a decent implementation for the 6t?
GroovyGeek said:
Wow, just what the doctor ordered. Can't quite figure out if it does panos but that is probably because of the gazillion settings I have to go through.
I have tried gcam in the past but it always seemed buggy. Can you point me to a decent implementation for the 6t?
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Try this Jean Luc mod apk with your favorite config file. There are also picture samples for each config. I prefer velvia.
Put the xml file in /gcam/configs. Install and open the camera apk and double tap the area next to the shutter button. You can load the config then.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1whMkHSjYUAD6TOLJTOU55SBKGs-Z6X83
Double tap power button to open a custom camera is only possible when phone is unlocked already. OOS feature...
Sorry for being dumb but... I created /gcam/configs, put a couple of XML files in there, installed the app, launched it, but when I double tap I get "you do not have any configs files".
Does gcam need to be under sdcard or in the root?
Never mind, figured it out, gcam needs to be in sdcard.
As to configuring a custom camera app to launch with double clicking the power button - I am on OOS unlocked. Do I need to install a button remapper?
GCam/Configs
CaSe sEnSiTiVe
GroovyGeek said:
Sorry for being dumb but... I created /gcam/configs, put a couple of XML files in there, installed the app, launched it, but when I double tap I get "you do not have any configs files".
Does gcam need to be under sdcard or in the root?
Never mind, figured it out, gcam needs to be in sdcard.
As to configuring a custom camera app to launch with double clicking the power button - I am on OOS unlocked. Do I need to install a button remapper?
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OP7 Pro new released camera version 3.3.8 works like a charm
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/onepl...se/oneplus-camera-3-3-8-android-apk-download/
Marco89989 said:
GCam/Configs
CaSe sEnSiTiVe
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Thanks but it is not case sensitive, I have it all lower case and it works fine.
I use a combination of Camera FV-5, when I have time to set everything because I'm picky (also 40 years using film SLR and D-SLR's) and when I'm in a hurry, the google camera that was ported for the Pixel phone I had. It's faster than the Camera FV-5.
The native camera app, as you mention, SUCKS.
Caltinpla said:
OP7 Pro new released camera version 3.3.8 works like a charm
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/onepl...se/oneplus-camera-3-3-8-android-apk-download/
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I tried that camera and when I zoomed in on the pictures, I still got the same mess as on previous camera versions.
If you really want to find the best camera setup for your phone and your photo habits, join google camera [op6/6t] group on telegram, I am on the latest 6.1 (6.2 sort of buggy) experimenting with glib, xlib xmls, but the possibilities are endless and there are noob-level tutorials how to set it up and which xml is for what.
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If you really want to find the best camera setup for your phone and your photo habits, join google camera [op6/6t] group on telegram, I am on the latest 6.1 (6.2 sort of buggy) experimenting with glib, xlib xmls, but the possibilities are endless and there are noob-level tutorials how to set it up and which xml is for what.
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Agreed. This is the place to go.
Hello,
I have the option to download the official Beta Android R (RPB1.200504.18).
My Pixel 4 phone is my daily phone, just like to ask, if its worth downloading this beta version.
I know it will not be stable and may be a bit flaky, but will my phone be useable if I do?
Thanks
152bobby said:
Hello,
I have the option to download the official Beta Android R (RPB1.200504.18).
My Pixel 4 phone is my daily phone, just like to ask, if its worth downloading this beta version.
I know it will not be stable and may be a bit flaky, but will my phone be useable if I do?
Thanks
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Been using it since day 1, no major issues here . Working flawlessly, except for Qnap apps that all crash besides the Qfile app.
One thing that sucks about Android 11 is that you can no longer hide the nav bar..
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/02/21/android-11-kills-apps-that-modify-the-navigation-bar/
Anyone with a working solution, adb command is welcomed
jemeljsh said:
Been using it since day 1, no major issues here . Working flawlessly, except for Qnap apps that all crash besides the Qfile app.
One thing that sucks about Android 11 is that you can no longer hide the nav bar..
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/02/21/android-11-kills-apps-that-modify-the-navigation-bar/
Anyone with a working solution, adb command is welcomed
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Thanks, I've downloaded it and I'm having a play with it. One immediate thing I notice missing is the Screenshot option when long pressing the power button.
The icons are along the top instead of down the side (which I think was better), so how do I take a screenshot now ?
Hi guys,
I have requested few features from google. I will appreciate if you can comment there and mark the features star to generate some interest. Only do it if you like the feature i have requested. Please find the link below to all the features i have requested.
1) Always on display Scheduling
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/158846274
2) Digital wellbeing app timer slots
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/158862278
3)Day/Night wallpapers
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/158846288
4)Battery Care for android
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/158846286
5) Ability to pin apps in Ram
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/158862276
You can star it as well as comment on it. This will hopefully increase the chances of these feature generate attention. Thank you in advance.
152bobby said:
so how do I take a screenshot now ?
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My wife had the same question when I updated her pixel 3 to this latest android 11 beta
Normally you can take the screenshot as on any other android - hold down volume down + power button and vollaaaa!
New way to do it also is by swiping up from the bottom and holding, and the besides the switch between apps option will appear you will also see Screenshot, Select, Share options underneath it
Yeh I get the old fashioned way, holding power and volume keys. Why on earth have they taken the very handy button that popped up when long pressing the power button !!!
As for your swiping up option, that doesn't work at all on my phone !!
Swiping up from the bottom and letting go works on my 4XL but only when in an app. If you are on the launcher i think its the old fashioned way. This is standard google to take away things we use!
Just received another beta update (RPB1.200504.020), 8.23MB
I'm able to set Shell as the default Home (Launcher App). What can I do to utilize this?
I'm loving the beta but I've found that when the pop-up asking you to chose what app to open something with, I only get two options: the recommended app and a second one and no list of apps that were being shown in android 10. It's really frustrating when you can't choose the correct app because it isn't listed. For example, what if you want to open the link in the app but you only see two web browsers? I use deampify to strip off the Google AMP part of the URL so I can open a link in the website's app such as CNN or The Washington post. That means if deampify doesn't show up then there is no way to chose it like I could in android 10. Another example is if you get an attachment in an email and you might want to open it in one of several apps such as Adobe Lightroom if you're going to edit it, Google Photos if you're saving it, Dropbox if you're sharing it with your family, Instagram if you're posting it, and what's app if you're sharing with a single friend? See how this can easily be an issue? Anyone else have this issue? Is there a fix?
I used the first official beta release for about a week, here's what I found:
* Good enough for a daily driver, if you don't mind a few hick-ups or manually restarting your phone every once in a while
* Slightly slower launching apps
* Audio quality from phone speakers was no where near as good (sounded thin and boxy), and not as loud.
* Camera would black-screen on me about every 4th launch and I'd need to force stop the camera
* Camera app always warned me it was too hot to preform certain advanced features
* Boot-up, not a big deal, but took about 6 times longer to start back up.
* I liked the notifications on the pull-down better. Not a huge change, but noticeable
* LOVED the screenshot edit pop up after every one (does more than Android 10 does). This was one thing I missed the most when I switched from a Samsung S10+ to Google.
The audio quality and camera were just too much for me to handle right now, so I went back to Android 10 for now. I may try beta 2 when it comes out?
Using Beta 2 right now, no issues at all, device is smoother than ever and battery lasts longer about 36 hours with medium usage getting 3.5h SOT
caifaz said:
Using Beta 2 right now, no issues at all, device is smoother than ever and battery lasts longer about 36 hours with medium usage getting 3.5h SOT
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I haven't been having battery luck. On beta 2 I get about 1.5 hours. Of screen on time. Phone doesn't go to sleep at all. Same with Android 10. I have to go back to using naptime.
I don't have motion sense on or aod display.
jduenes said:
I haven't been having battery luck. On beta 2 I get about 1.5 hours. Of screen on time. Phone doesn't go to sleep at all. Same with Android 10. I have to go back to using naptime.
I don't have motion sense on or aod display.
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thats odd, have you tried a full wipe?