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PSA: How to get rid of some portion of lag on your Moto X Play

I have found that a large part of the lag most users are experiencing is actually coming from the Google launcher (My launcher is updated with the vertical scrolling app page). Switch to a launcher such as Nova and the you will be able to notice the difference immediately.
I was initially very unhappy with the lags i found while using the phone when i first got it last week but since switching to Nova i've been extremely satisfied with the performance of the phone. Let me know if you'll find a difference too

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Enviado desde mi XT1563 mediante Tapatalk

Davirus849 said:
Switch to 1280x720
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How can we do that?

etrokal said:
How can we do that?
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[quote name="DroidX1001" post=63210312]How did you do it?
adb shell wm size 720x1280
adb shell wm density 320
adb reboot
No need root, USB debugging.

@etrokal
Have you tried changing the resolution to 1280x720? Does it get rid of lag? I was planning to buy the MXP but won't buy it if is too laggy. For what it's worth I'm willing to live with 1280x720 screen if it doestnt lag.

well it sucks.....i reset my device twice but ...the lags got more frequent now...

devtherockstar said:
@etrokal
Have you tried changing the resolution to 1280x720? Does it get rid of lag? I was planning to buy the MXP but won't buy it if is too laggy. For what it's worth I'm willing to live with 1280x720 screen if it doestnt lag.
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It doesn't lag, but its even faster with the CM ROM and the 720p combined.
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Biggest thing that helped for me was to mess with the animation scale settings.
Under Developer Tools -> Drawing, set all of them to .5x. My phone was at least twice as fast after that.
I'm also on Nova Launcher.

Switching resolution to 720p will increase battery life?

A lot of reviews complain about uneven performance -- has that changed since Nougat?

Recently lost my Nexus 7 (2013) and am looking for a replacement -- the best candidates seem to be the Asus ZenPad 3S 10 and the Huawei Mediapad M3. I'm leaning towards the ZenPad 3S 10, mostly because all the reviews for the Huawei mention great benchmarks but mediocre real-life performance -- and also that the interface is an unabashed iPad clone (really, no app drawer? What the eff!). But those reviews are from last year, and Nougat has since been released on the Mediapad M3. So has real life performance caught up with the potential of the processor? And is the EMUI 5.0 interface much improved? If I install the Google Now launcher, how close can I get to the vanilla experience? There's just not many accounts of the post-ANdroid 7 experience, so do tell!
Thanks in advance for any comments and advice.

App Drawer was introduced with EMUI 5 and is optional. You can switch between the standard startscreen style like it was before in EMUI 4 and the Drawer via menu setting.
Performance is fine and those problems reported with Android6/EMUI4 resulted IMHO only due to a powersaving profile setting which was activated by default.

In a follow up, did they fix the issue of apps defaulting to phone instead of tablet mode, e.g. Chrome?

Ovy13 said:
In a follow up, did they fix the issue of apps defaulting to phone instead of tablet mode, e.g. Chrome?
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No, but you can force tablet mode by using the 'small display setting' or by changing DPI settings.

ncguy68 said:
No, but you can force tablet mode by using the 'small display setting' or by changing DPI settings.
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Seriously, they didn't even fix it in the Nougat update? So you have to set the entire tablet to "small display" just to get apps to function properly? That might be a dealbreaker...

Ovy13 said:
Seriously, they didn't even fix it in the Nougat update? So you have to set the entire tablet to "small display" just to get apps to function properly? That might be a dealbreaker...
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I use a screen resolution of 1200x1920 and a dpi of 320 and all my apps use tablet UI. The lower resolution adds over an hour to battery life and my old eyes can't tell the difference in resolution.

ncguy68 said:
I use a screen resolution of 1200x1920 and a dpi of 320 and all my apps use tablet UI. The lower resolution adds over an hour to battery life and my old eyes can't tell the difference in resolution.
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And that's something easily (and intended to be) done in the settings , or do you use adb or root your device?

ncguy68 said:
I use a screen resolution of 1200x1920 and a dpi of 320 and all my apps use tablet UI. The lower resolution adds over an hour to battery life and my old eyes can't tell the difference in resolution.
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Thanks, I just set the same resolution and DPI on my M3 using Easy DPI Changer.

Ovy13 said:
And that's something easily (and intended to be) done in the settings , or do you use adb or root your device?
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I use adb to set both the screen resolution and dpi. My mediapad is not rooted. In Nougat you can change dpi setting in developer options. The lower 1920x1200 resolution is suppose to be able to be set in battery options, but it doesn't work in Nougat.

Force any app to run at 120hz and 60hz when youre using apps you dont desire this opt

Import this little profile here to tasker
PLEASE TRY IT WITH QHD
Follow the steps within profile
Beta 2 will theorically will let you run strictly on 60hz and will run you back to 120 whenever you open an app that you desire to be refreshing at 120
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Tasker
Patient
Knowledge on how to run adb commands until there's root.
If it isn't being force on let's say Gmaps but it is set to 120hz most likely it will drop down to 60 to save battery. And this can happen with other apps as well.
Please enjoy and report back.
Update Beta V2
https://taskernet.com/shares/?user=...WrgmW2Mlw=&id=Profile:Selective+120hz+Per+App

gmaps is garbage, especially the navigation it doesnt even run at 20fps, i am still using old maps pre big update where the navigation was separate

suffeks said:
gmaps is garbage, especially the navigation it doesnt even run at 20fps, i am still using old maps pre big update where the navigation was separate
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Does it even run smoothly on pixels? It never ran smoothly on any of my phones, especially when zooming out during navigation, pathetic.

Has anyone successfully used this yet? I'm more interested in tying it to the power mode like high performance or optimized. Is that possible?

peachpuff said:
Does it even run smoothly on pixels? It never ran smoothly on any of my phones, especially when zooming out during navigation, pathetic.
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Yes it runs smoothly on pixel 4

I'm using this and working very well. Running all apps besides video playback apps and gmaps at 120hz.
Takes a second or 2 for refresh rate to change but I think this is a great idea in general, app controllable refresh rate

jasons1004 said:
Running all apps besides video playback apps
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Damn this is what I wanted... I've never had tasker and don't know how to use it and don't want to buy it just to test something to find out it doesn't work at the end. Can you please test if the video app kodi can be run at 120hz please?

chieco said:
Damn this is what I wanted... I've never had tasker and don't know how to use it and don't want to buy it just to test something to find out it doesn't work at the end. Can you please test if the video app kodi can be run at 120hz please?
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It should
Download the profile and import to tasker
Pick which apps you want to run in each and you're good to go.
That being said I installed kodi and it seems like 120hz.
Easy to tell 120 from 60.
I don't think worth running video playback apps in 120 as video won't run in 120 anyway.

I don't understand how to import this into Tasker. When I click on the link from my phone, it doesn't give me the option to open it with Tasker. Is there any way you can post the actual file here?

steelersmb said:
I don't understand how to import this into Tasker. When I click on the link from my phone, it doesn't give me the option to open it with Tasker. Is there any way you can post the actual file here?
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When you click link in thread, click import and then click yes, this should open in tasker. Then you click on choose apps and pick which apps to run in 120 and rest go to 60.
You have installed tasker right?

I don't think this is working at all for me. There's a noticeable difference when I enable/disable the setting manually regardless of whether the Tasker profile is applying (which it says it is).

peachpuff said:
Does [google maps] even run smoothly on pixels? It never ran smoothly on any of my phones, especially when zooming out during navigation, pathetic.
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Someone said it does and they're wrong. It seems to run at about 15-30fps, just verified on my Pixel 4XL.
Places where this is evident are any in-app animations, for example if you tap on your blue location dot, it will animate to fill the screen with blue. Or if you search a location and tap its card, it will animate to pull the card up. Or you can just fling the map around. There's no way anybody with decent vision can confuse this with 60fps let along 120fps.

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Hi Kev,
first of all thank you for the thread's and tasker profile regarding the 120Hz tingz!
The 120Hz experience on the S20 line imho is ULTRA disappointing!
Not the Display itself but more the way stupid Sammy implemented it Software wise.
First disappointment, the limitation of only FHD+
but this was known even before the S20 line was officially announced so I actively decided to look pass that. Even though most people say FHD+ is enough and you don't see any pixels or whatever, I have to say coming from a S10 with a smaller display and and higher dpi, I do notice how much softer the image quality on the S20+ is! It's noticeably less sharp.
The Second disappointment no one warned me about is the fact that half of the apps revert back to 60Hz!!!
No one told me this! and I ****ing hate this. Maybe I was naive, maybe it's the fact that I had no experience with a phone that has a high refresh rate display, but to my understanding if I set my phones display to 120Hz, everything, the UI and all apps would be displayed @*120Hz! But no! this already is like on the leaked Firmware Screenshot wich shows the "Dynamic" option in the middle! it's not locked.
Just shows again how important root is. The ability to take control of the device you own and not giving control to stupid Sammy dev's...
Your method with tasker works fine, but I had no experience with tasker prior and I only using it during it's trial period. After the trial ends, I'm not going to buy the full version.
Is there maybe a adb command that can globally set the phone to a fixed 120Hz refresh rate? Since I don't need a per app selection.
again thank you for this tasker profile so far.

Thanks for the profile! But there is one issue: it's works only once for my S20, then after launching few apps refresh rate drops to 60Hz ((( Even rebooting my phone doesn't help (

Run 120fps within any app and any resolution you wish

Import this little profile here to tasker
PLEASE TRY IT WITH QHD
Follow the steps within profile
Beta 2 will theorically let you run strictly on 60hz and will run you back to 120 whenever you open an app that you desire to be refreshing at 120
Needed
Tasker
Patient
Knowledge on how to run adb commands until there's root.
Any app and resolution should give you the refresh rate you're looking for.
Please enjoy and report back.
Update Beta V2.2
https://taskernet.com/shares/?user=...WrgmW2Mlw=&id=Profile:Selective+120hz+Per+App

does it work?

mastibeta said:
does it work?
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You just have to find out can't tell more until there's root. That's why it's still beta

Kevtrejo37 said:
You just have to find out can't tell more until there's root. That's why it's still beta
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Are you saying this hasn't been tested yet?

MishaalRahman said:
Are you saying this hasn't been tested yet?
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Yes, he very clearly said it wasn't tested and that's why it's labeled as Beta.

MishaalRahman said:
Are you saying this hasn't been tested yet?
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They have been, but on a different device and have worked well,
I have been looking back and forth to aosp how they are managing the refresh rates. to force x fps they use min_refresh_rate & peak_refresh_rate. What i have done here is that i made a custom task when you open an app to set this variables to these values for example peak_refresh_rate value = 120.0, variable min_refresh_rate value = 120.0. Then when you exit the app to set this variables to these values for example peak_refresh_rate value = 60.0 variable min_refresh_rate value = 120.0. These are system variables so you have to make sure that you select system and dont just leave at global

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They have been, but on a different device and have worked well,
I have been looking back and forth to aosp how they are managing the refresh rates. to force x fps they use min_refresh_rate & peak_refresh_rate. What i have done here is that i made a custom task when you open an app to set this variables to these values for example peak_refresh_rate value = 120.0, variable min_refresh_rate value = 120.0. Then when you exit the app to set this variables to these values for example peak_refresh_rate value = 60.0 variable min_refresh_rate value = 120.0. These are system variables so you have to make sure that you select system and dont just leave at global
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Could you make a version to force 120hz on qhd all the time? I don't care about batt life.

VZTech said:
Could you make a version to force 120hz on qhd all the time? I don't care about batt life.
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This is the one ! let me know when you get your phone so i can send a newer one.

Kevtrejo37 said:
This is the one ! let me know when you get your phone so i can send a newer one.
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Awesome, will do. Should be next Thursday

Would it be possible to get 90 Hz with this?

omnimax said:
Would it be possible to get 90 Hz with this?
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There is but, the only problem that I have been having is that when you exit the app were you want to run it in my case my is 75hz. So let's say I have it set to open x app at 75 it will do it, but it won't reset it back down to 60 so it would just be stuck. So I am not doing any fps that aren't officially supported by the phone and oem.

VZTech said:
Awesome, will do. Should be next Thursday
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Great !! Should upload my next beta soon. I'm working on an less confusing way

Mine is set to arrive on Tuesday.

This will not work with QHD, but i can confirm it does work with 1080p. It is forcing 120hz in Chrome browser when it was only doing 60hz before.

owenbeals said:
This will not work with QHD, but i can confirm it does work with 1080p. It is forcing 120hz in Chrome browser when it was only doing 60hz before.
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Will not, or does not? Maybe the op can fix it?

owenbeals said:
This will not work with QHD, but i can confirm it does work with 1080p. It is forcing 120hz in Chrome browser when it was only doing 60hz before.
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What is your experience when using Qhd ??

Kevtrejo37 said:
What is your experience when using Qhd ??
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I just updated the one, can you please make sure to select the apps you want it in. And try again on QHD

Kevtrejo37 said:
I just updated the one, can you please make sure to select the apps you want it in. And try again on QHD
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I have qhd enabled, and your tasker profile. Not seeing 120hz in qhd

VZTech said:
I have qhd enabled, and your tasker profile. Not seeing 120hz in qhd
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Is it working on FHD+ at least ? A friend of my is getting his ultra tmrw might be able to update and get it to work this weekend once I test on his device

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Is it working on FHD+ at least ? A friend of my is getting his ultra tmrw might be able to update and get it to work this weekend once I test on his device
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I think so...hard to tell. My only use for this is qhd and 120hz. So your saying stock, on fhd and 120hz doesnt work on all apps?

Use 96hz refresh rate on any S20 using ADB

Original post here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...te-to-96hz-t4073867/post82130937#post82130937

This has the complete guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/comments/fqk5he/made_the_s20_display_run_at_96hz_so_much_better/

There is an App available now that someone created: https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/sszb.s20.refresh

This mod works fine, but why SAMSUNG don´t add this option in the menu?? Cause screen damage??? I don´t know... I revert to 120 hz.

Installed and trying... Works perfect at the moment, will see if cause less battery drain...

I did the adb commands early this morning before work and battery life has taken a small hit, but the extra smoothness is absolutely worth it. I considered installing the app, but I probably won't go back to 60 Hz, and 120 Hz is overkill. I think 96 Hz is the sweet spot

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I did the adb commands early this morning before work and battery life has taken a small hit, but the extra smoothness is absolutely worth it. I considered installing the app, but I probably won't go back to 60 Hz, and 120 Hz is overkill. I think 96 Hz is the sweet spot
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Can u send a screenshot? ??

I want a solution that forces everything to run @*120Hz...
everyone just concerned about battery life.

Is there any downside to this app?

juliheavy said:
Can u send a screenshot?
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I used this adb command:
adb shell settings put system peak_refresh_rate 96.0 && adb shell settings put system min_refresh_rate 96.0
Phone web browser confirms 96-97 HZ on testufo.com
Battery drain is still just over 1%/hour, so 96 Hz hasn't significantly impacted battery, but makes a *huge* improvement in scrolling smoothness and overall experience. Putting my S20+ next to my wife's Z Flip, you can definitely see the difference when scrolling the browser and Twitter. I won't be going back to 60 Hz, so I don't need the app. But I appreciate the work that went into the app, for those who want to use it.

avid_droid said:
96hz works fine for me through the app.
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If you use the app and want to go back to 60, is there a way to do this?

sublimaze said:
I used this adb command:
adb shell settings put system peak_refresh_rate 96.0 && adb shell settings put system min_refresh_rate 96.0
Phone web browser confirms 96-97 HZ on testufo.com
Battery drain is still just over 1%/hour, so 96 Hz hasn't significantly impacted battery, but makes a *huge* improvement in scrolling smoothness and overall experience. Putting my S20+ next to my wife's Z Flip, you can definitely see the difference when scrolling the browser and Twitter. I won't be going back to 60 Hz, so I don't need the app. But I appreciate the work that went into the app, for those who want to use it.
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Woah, it's a good result, thanks for sharing!

All the day in 96 hz,around 7 SOT. Not bad

Same today

what about compare 96 with 120hz?

emprize said:
what about compare 96 with 120hz?
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I use tasker with selective 120hz over all time 96hz. All video streaming apps I use 60hz and rest set to 120hz. I tried all time 96hz but battery is better my way bc if I watch a lot of video, it won't run higher than 60hz so 96 or 120 is a waste. Using tasker profile for selective 120/60hz giving better /same battery as all time 96hz. And 120 is noticeably smoother than 96 at least to me.

The app caused some problem in my S20+ Snapdragon. I installed and set to 96 when I'm normally set to 120, and 6 hours later my phone had dropped 47% percent battery. Nothing else unusual running in background or foreground. No idea why and I haven't seen anyone else report it, so maybe a fluke. Just thought I'd mention it.

emprize said:
what about compare 96 with 120hz?
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I can see a difference when scrolling text. So I went back to 120Hz for best smoothness. Don't care to much about battery life.

Yesterday and today, all the day 120 hz

juliheavy said:
Yesterday and today, all the day 120 hz
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Snapdragon 865 at 120Hz