On the fence, would love other users point of view - OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers

On the fence, would love other users point of view - OnePlus 8 Pro Questions & Answers

Sorry if there's a thousand and one types of these threads already on this forum. I am coming from a OnePlus 5t. I got it right at launch because a friend got a 5 and I heard the t variant was going to be better. Fast forward to now. I hit the trigger on an 8pro and I just finished setting it up.
Maybe it's buyer's remorse because I dropped 1k on it. Maybe it's because I'm letting a lot of people's distaste for the phone influence me. Maybe it's the rumors about how the 8t will probably get all the stuff like the camera and screen bugs fixed.
I kinda want to see if I can return the phone and wait out for the 8t/8t pro. My 5t is running fine. A little battery wear and my charging port is garbage and won't warp charge unless I put it in a super specific spot. However it has zero lag and I haven't had a single software problem.
Anyone else in my shoes? I love OP and I have faith in them delivering a really good product in a few months. I just kinda keep getting this thought in the back of my head that I don't want to play the lottery with this phone. The phone is an obvious upgrade but nothing has wowed me. Camera feels like the colors feel off and that was the feature I was really looking forward to.
Also would I even get a full refund? I've never had to deal with OnePlus customer service.

Why not just wait for the oneplus 43 pro? There is always going to be a better phone just found the corner. I got the 8 pro couple of days ago and love it. I am not a photographer but the photographs look brilliant to my untrained eye. I haven't gone looking for any screen issues and haven't seen any in normal use.

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Why I can't decide on the iPhone 6s Plus or the Galaxy S7 Edge

TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
All right, I know that the S7 Edge is superior in almost every way to the 6s Plus, but give me a chance to explain my reasoning for being unsure about which one to purchase. Let me just warn you that this will be a long read, but if you love phones as much as I do and would like to kill some time then I hope you will enjoy this post and maybe even have some input to help me make a decision.
First, some history. I had my first smartphone about six years ago, and it was a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. It was glorious when I bought it and I loved it, but after a while it became extremely laggy, froze quite frequently (I would have to remove the battery to turn it off and on), the power button broke, the software got ****ed up and I was not able to go to the home page without my phone freezing and crashing (I fixed this by installing a different launcher from my computer, but it was pretty scary not being able to navigate my phone). All this stuff caused me to kind of lose my trust in Samsung. I even found a note (lol get it) a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty pretty funny, although also slightly worrisome. For the sake of comedy, here it is:
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So I got the HTC One M7, kind of ignoring my own advice, and the first two weeks with it were tough (I was paranoid and I found dead pixels on both of the phones they let me look at, the camera made weird sounds, the build quality was much worse than advertised on YouTube, etc) but after I get over these little things, I really enjoyed the phone and the experience was much better than with my Samsung. No lag, no freezing. Pure bliss.
A year later, I realized I need a tablet for school. After considering all my options I went for the latest Samsung tablet, deciding to give them another chance even though my experience was so bad previously. And this time… they disappointed me again. Turning the tablet on by pressing the home button took literally 2 seconds and taking notes in school was impossible because the note-taking app kept crashing. I filmed these things but I don’t know where those videos are now. My friend ended up getting the same tablet and hers was way quicker and didn’t have these problems, so I don’t know why mine was slow. But this made me trust Samsung even less.
So, here I am again. It’s been almost three years and my good ol’ HTC One cannot fulfil my needs anymore, thus it is time for an upgrade. So I wait, and I wait, and the iPhone 6s Plus comes out and I’m amazed by the new 3D touch feature, but I like Android so I wait some more. And then the LG V10 comes out and I like it and decide to buy it, but it isn’t available in Canada. So I wait some more. Then, finally, an angel appears out of nowhere: the beautiful Galaxy S7 Edge. The only problem is… it’s Samsung.
I watch unboxings. I watch reviews. I watch comparisons. This phone is a beast in every way. It has expandable memory, a fantastic display, a crazy battery, amazing cameras, it’s waterproof, it has quick charging, it has wireless charging, etc. Why the hell would someone not want this phone?!
Honestly, I was still unsure about the phone when I decided to buy it (my instinctual fear of Samsung was telling me to stay away). Samsung was having a promotion where they gave you a free 128GB micro SD card if you reserved the phone, so I decided to just reserve it and see what happened. Then when the phone came in, I decided to just buy it and see what happened. Then I traded in my ****ty old non-functional Samsung phone for $125 off the S7 Edge. Then I kind of fell in love with the phone. Well, until things started to go wrong.
You see, I am someone who over-analyzes everything. If I’m buying headphones, I will research headphones every day after work and on the weekends for at least a week. This is pretty much what I did with these phones. Specs-wise, I knew the Edge was obviously the best choice. However, in real-life use it had a few problems, one which I had trouble getting over.
The first of these problems was that the camera would make a weird popping sound when I recorded videos. I actually think this had something to do with Snapchat because it stopped happening a while after I uninstalled it. But that was weird and it made me slightly paranoid.
The second problem was connectivity issues, although this could have been due to my carrier. It was strange though, because I never had problems on my old HTC One M7 with the same carrier. Anyway, they somehow resolved themselves as well.
The most scary problem was the last one. I was talking to my friend on a messaging app (Line, specifically) a few days after buying the phone and suddenly my phone shut down without a warning. It freaked me out because I got flashbacks to six years ago when this would happen all the time on my old Samsung phone. I pushed the thoughts away and said, it was probably a one-off error that won’t happen again.
But alas, it happened again twice on one day (the day before the last day for me to return it, too). The first time I got a text and opened my cover, which would usually turn on the screen, but nothing happened. I pressed the home button. Nothing happened. I pressed all buttons, nothing happened. After about half a minute, the phone restarted. Then the same night, I was talking on Facebook Messenger and it happened again. No matter what I did, no amount of pressing the screen or any buttons would do anything. And then it just turned off and I had to turn it back on by pressing some combination of buttons.
Needless to say, this freaked the **** out of me. I talked to my friends and they all said this wasn’t normal and I should take the phone back for an exchange or in the worst case just return it. So I contacted my local Samsung store and they told me they were out of stock, but that I could check again tomorrow. At this point I was having major Samsung-hell flashbacks and was totally second-guessing my decision and was considering getting the Nexus 6p. So I stayed up until 2 or 3 in the morning (even though I had work the next morning) so I could do some more research, and I found myself in the morning desperately hoping they had no more stock so I could return the damn phone and get a Nexus.
And to my absolute glee, they had no more stock! So I went in and returned the phone, not without a lot of convincing arguments from the salespeople about why I should keep it (“with all these discounts and free stuff you save almost $300!”), as well as giving me a one-day extension so I could come in the next day and get it replaced if they had stock. I spent a week being anxious and stressed I didn’t feel like dealing with this for even a day longer so I returned it and went home and relaxed for the first time in probably a week. I even cried some tears of joy because I had forgotten what it was like not to feel like there is a constant clock ticking, waiting for me to make a decision. Ah, peace at last…
But then I started second-guessing my decision. I didn’t actually want the Nexus; it has an inferior battery, a camera without OIS, and the Snapdragon 810 sounds like a pain in the ass. I was pretty depressed for a day about returning my gorgeous S7 Edge with all those marvelous specs, until I remembered, “Hey, I can always get the iPhone 6s Plus!”
So now we’re finally at the juicy part, after all the rambling and storytelling. I need your help. Samsung has scarred me tremendously, yet I am still so damn drawn to their hardware. My coworker has had a Samsung S6 for half a year and says it has not crashed even once. My other coworker has also had the S6 for a while and she says it's smooth like butter. My best friend has also had a Samsung S6 for a little over a year and she says it only crashed a few times in that whole year. What are your experiences with Samsung’s latest phones? Can Samsung be trusted? Do their phones crash frequently, or do I just somehow curse every Samsung product I buy? A lot of people complained about Samsung becoming laggy after some time, even though their products are amazing initially. Is this still true?
Yet at the same time I somehow cannot seem to bring myself to get the iPhone, knowing all that it’s lacking. It has no quick charging. It has no wireless charging. It has no expandable memory. Its display is worse than my three-year-old HTC One M7’s (what the hell Apple lol). Its battery life is worse than the S7 Edge’s. It’s not waterproof. It has worse low-light pictures. It has slower upload/download speeds. Basically, it is worse in every way, except for two important ones: It has 3D touch, and it’s Apple.
3D touch seems like such a useful feature, both from a user perspective and from a developer perspective. I’m studying computer science and I really want to make mobile apps (I’ve made two already for Android) and 3D touch seems like it’ll be very interesting to incorporate into apps. I’ve also read that iOS devs make more money since iOS users are more likely to spend money, but I guess if my apps have ads then it’ll be more revenue on Android since there are more users there.
The second point I mentioned is that it’s Apple. I own a Macbook Air and used to own an iPad and I have had nothing but great experiences with Apple. My friend has an iPhone and she says it has never crashed. Apple’s customer service is outstanding and they make me feel very secure with my purchases. I know that no matter what happens to my phone, AppleCare+ has got me covered. Also, I’m going on exchange to Asia for a year and it’s nice to know I can take my phone to any Apple store in the world and get it repaired (which I can’t do for any other phone).
Essentially I need a few things from my phone: A good camera, a good battery that can survive a whole day (since I’ll be doing lots of touristy picture and video taking), enough storage for photos and videos (while I’m travelling I’ll want to record lots of videos, although probably not in 4K), and peace of mind. I’m sad that I can’t seem to enjoy Samsung phones as much as other people do, and those damn specs are driving me insane and make me want to buy the phone again right now and give it another try (maybe it was just a bug?). But I’m hesitant and scared of buying a phone that will constantly fail on me just like my old Samsung used to do.
At the same time, I feel silly paying $160CAD more for an iPhone which has much worse specs than the Edge. But is it all about specs, or is it more about the experience? Does it matter if it takes 3 hours to charge to the same amount the Edge charges to in 1 hour? Does it matter if I can’t charge wirelessly? Does it matter if there are less pixels per inch on the screen? Does it matter if the iPhone isn’t waterproof? Does it matter that low-light pictures are worse? Does it matter that the selfie camera is way too damn zoomed in to take any decent group photos without a selfie stick? Does it matter that once I choose a storage size, I can’t expand it? I don’t know. It’s hard to really know how useful or useless these things will be until I use the phone for a long time. If I were rich, I’d buy both. But I’m not and that’s crazy.
I’m going to Asia in September for a full year and my HTC One M7 won’t do. It barely lasts half a day with normal use and the camera is broken. I want to take pictures and record videos (so I can make vlogs on YouTube and share my experiences with my family and friends) and go out in the morning and come back at night with enough charge. I don’t want my phone to freeze and crash in the middle of all of this.
I wanted to love the S7 Edge so much but the crashing is not okay, but after thinking about it for a few days I wonder if this is something that is not common anymore and something that just happened to me because I’m unlucky. I also still would be open to the idea of a Nexus 6P (especially for the price), but I’m not sure if the slightly worse camera and the much worse battery are a good fit for me. Then again, there’s the iPhone 6s Plus…
What the hell do I do?

s7 edge....just this.

Hey friend. Just go with S7 Edge and it will not disappoint you again. I am totally love my S7e. It's very very fast and very long battery with very nice display.
Just few issue in software like random freeze and reboot (1 per week) and it will be solved by software update.

This is the first time a Samsung device surprises me having SOT like this. When S7 (not needs root) a little tweaked (no greenify or 3rd party app) has excellent battery life. I've used every samsung device since S2 (including note series), but this time they solved the battery issue. I'm on LTE network and SOT is more than 4, 4.5 hours.
Update of the samsung devices is not very well so Note has MM yet available, so don't expect N upgrades soon.
I have 6S plus, Nexus 6P and S7 Edge which I use as daily drivers (2 of them are always online). The question is do you want to use ios or android. (as I said this time samsung did the work well)
6S plus' camera is excellent you dont notice a pixel or low resolution but samsung's better. Camerawise S7E>6S+>6P
Screen quality is best on s7e and you will be happy to use (unless curved screen glare does bother you)
As far as I noticed samsung did a very good job on s7e.
Hope this helps you to decide to choose.
naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
All right, I know that the S7 Edge is superior in almost every way to the 6s Plus, but give me a chance to explain my reasoning for being unsure about which one to purchase. Let me just warn you that this will be a long read, but if you love phones as much as I do and would like to kill some time then I hope you will enjoy this post and maybe even have some input to help me make a decision.
First, some history. I had my first smartphone about six years ago, and it was a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. It was glorious when I bought it and I loved it, but after a while it became extremely laggy, froze quite frequently (I would have to remove the battery to turn it off and on), the power button broke, the software got ****ed up and I was not able to go to the home page without my phone freezing and crashing (I fixed this by installing a different launcher from my computer, but it was pretty scary not being able to navigate my phone). All this stuff caused me to kind of lose my trust in Samsung. I even found a note (lol get it) a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty pretty funny, although also slightly worrisome. For the sake of comedy, here it is:
So I got the HTC One M7, kind of ignoring my own advice, and the first two weeks with it were tough (I was paranoid and I found dead pixels on both of the phones they let me look at, the camera made weird sounds, the build quality was much worse than advertised on YouTube, etc) but after I get over these little things, I really enjoyed the phone and the experience was much better than with my Samsung. No lag, no freezing. Pure bliss.
A year later, I realized I need a tablet for school. After considering all my options I went for the latest Samsung tablet, deciding to give them another chance even though my experience was so bad previously. And this time… they disappointed me again. Turning the tablet on by pressing the home button took literally 2 seconds and taking notes in school was impossible because the note-taking app kept crashing. I filmed these things but I don’t know where those videos are now. My friend ended up getting the same tablet and hers was way quicker and didn’t have these problems, so I don’t know why mine was slow. But this made me trust Samsung even less.
So, here I am again. It’s been almost three years and my good ol’ HTC One cannot fulfil my needs anymore, thus it is time for an upgrade. So I wait, and I wait, and the iPhone 6s Plus comes out and I’m amazed by the new 3D touch feature, but I like Android so I wait some more. And then the LG V10 comes out and I like it and decide to buy it, but it isn’t available in Canada. So I wait some more. Then, finally, an angel appears out of nowhere: the beautiful Galaxy S7 Edge. The only problem is… it’s Samsung.
I watch unboxings. I watch reviews. I watch comparisons. This phone is a beast in every way. It has expandable memory, a fantastic display, a crazy battery, amazing cameras, it’s waterproof, it has quick charging, it has wireless charging, etc. Why the hell would someone not want this phone?!
Honestly, I was still unsure about the phone when I decided to buy it (my instinctual fear of Samsung was telling me to stay away). Samsung was having a promotion where they gave you a free 128GB micro SD card if you reserved the phone, so I decided to just reserve it and see what happened. Then when the phone came in, I decided to just buy it and see what happened. Then I traded in my ****ty old non-functional Samsung phone for $125 off the S7 Edge. Then I kind of fell in love with the phone. Well, until things started to go wrong.
You see, I am someone who over-analyzes everything. If I’m buying headphones, I will research headphones every day after work and on the weekends for at least a week. This is pretty much what I did with these phones. Specs-wise, I knew the Edge was obviously the best choice. However, in real-life use it had a few problems, one which I had trouble getting over.
The first of these problems was that the camera would make a weird popping sound when I recorded videos. I actually think this had something to do with Snapchat because it stopped happening a while after I uninstalled it. But that was weird and it made me slightly paranoid.
The second problem was connectivity issues, although this could have been due to my carrier. It was strange though, because I never had problems on my old HTC One M7 with the same carrier. Anyway, they somehow resolved themselves as well.
The most scary problem was the last one. I was talking to my friend on a messaging app (Line, specifically) a few days after buying the phone and suddenly my phone shut down without a warning. It freaked me out because I got flashbacks to six years ago when this would happen all the time on my old Samsung phone. I pushed the thoughts away and said, it was probably a one-off error that won’t happen again.
But alas, it happened again twice on one day (the day before the last day for me to return it, too). The first time I got a text and opened my cover, which would usually turn on the screen, but nothing happened. I pressed the home button. Nothing happened. I pressed all buttons, nothing happened. After about half a minute, the phone restarted. Then the same night, I was talking on Facebook Messenger and it happened again. No matter what I did, no amount of pressing the screen or any buttons would do anything. And then it just turned off and I had to turn it back on by pressing some combination of buttons.
Needless to say, this freaked the **** out of me. I talked to my friends and they all said this wasn’t normal and I should take the phone back for an exchange or in the worst case just return it. So I contacted my local Samsung store and they told me they were out of stock, but that I could check again tomorrow. At this point I was having major Samsung-hell flashbacks and was totally second-guessing my decision and was considering getting the Nexus 6p. So I stayed up until 2 or 3 in the morning (even though I had work the next morning) so I could do some more research, and I found myself in the morning desperately hoping they had no more stock so I could return the damn phone and get a Nexus.
And to my absolute glee, they had no more stock! So I went in and returned the phone, not without a lot of convincing arguments from the salespeople about why I should keep it (“with all these discounts and free stuff you save almost $300!”), as well as giving me a one-day extension so I could come in the next day and get it replaced if they had stock. I spent a week being anxious and stressed I didn’t feel like dealing with this for even a day longer so I returned it and went home and relaxed for the first time in probably a week. I even cried some tears of joy because I had forgotten what it was like not to feel like there is a constant clock ticking, waiting for me to make a decision. Ah, peace at last…
But then I started second-guessing my decision. I didn’t actually want the Nexus; it has an inferior battery, a camera without OIS, and the Snapdragon 810 sounds like a pain in the ass. I was pretty depressed for a day about returning my gorgeous S7 Edge with all those marvelous specs, until I remembered, “Hey, I can always get the iPhone 6s Plus!”
So now we’re finally at the juicy part, after all the rambling and storytelling. I need your help. Samsung has scarred me tremendously, yet I am still so damn drawn to their hardware. My coworker has had a Samsung S6 for half a year and says it has not crashed even once. My other coworker has also had the S6 for a while and she says it's smooth like butter. My best friend has also had a Samsung S6 for a little over a year and she says it only crashed a few times in that whole year. What are your experiences with Samsung’s latest phones? Can Samsung be trusted? Do their phones crash frequently, or do I just somehow curse every Samsung product I buy? A lot of people complained about Samsung becoming laggy after some time, even though their products are amazing initially. Is this still true?
Yet at the same time I somehow cannot seem to bring myself to get the iPhone, knowing all that it’s lacking. It has no quick charging. It has no wireless charging. It has no expandable memory. Its display is worse than my three-year-old HTC One M7’s (what the hell Apple lol). Its battery life is worse than the S7 Edge’s. It’s not waterproof. It has worse low-light pictures. It has slower upload/download speeds. Basically, it is worse in every way, except for two important ones: It has 3D touch, and it’s Apple.
3D touch seems like such a useful feature, both from a user perspective and from a developer perspective. I’m studying computer science and I really want to make mobile apps (I’ve made two already for Android) and 3D touch seems like it’ll be very interesting to incorporate into apps. I’ve also read that iOS devs make more money since iOS users are more likely to spend money, but I guess if my apps have ads then it’ll be more revenue on Android since there are more users there.
The second point I mentioned is that it’s Apple. I own a Macbook Air and used to own an iPad and I have had nothing but great experiences with Apple. My friend has an iPhone and she says it has never crashed. Apple’s customer service is outstanding and they make me feel very secure with my purchases. I know that no matter what happens to my phone, AppleCare+ has got me covered. Also, I’m going on exchange to Asia for a year and it’s nice to know I can take my phone to any Apple store in the world and get it repaired (which I can’t do for any other phone).
Essentially I need a few things from my phone: A good camera, a good battery that can survive a whole day (since I’ll be doing lots of touristy picture and video taking), enough storage for photos and videos (while I’m travelling I’ll want to record lots of videos, although probably not in 4K), and peace of mind. I’m sad that I can’t seem to enjoy Samsung phones as much as other people do, and those damn specs are driving me insane and make me want to buy the phone again right now and give it another try (maybe it was just a bug?). But I’m hesitant and scared of buying a phone that will constantly fail on me just like my old Samsung used to do.
At the same time, I feel silly paying $160CAD more for an iPhone which has much worse specs than the Edge. But is it all about specs, or is it more about the experience? Does it matter if it takes 3 hours to charge to the same amount the Edge charges to in 1 hour? Does it matter if I can’t charge wirelessly? Does it matter if there are less pixels per inch on the screen? Does it matter if the iPhone isn’t waterproof? Does it matter that low-light pictures are worse? Does it matter that the selfie camera is way too damn zoomed in to take any decent group photos without a selfie stick? Does it matter that once I choose a storage size, I can’t expand it? I don’t know. It’s hard to really know how useful or useless these things will be until I use the phone for a long time. If I were rich, I’d buy both. But I’m not and that’s crazy.
I’m going to Asia in September for a full year and my HTC One M7 won’t do. It barely lasts half a day with normal use and the camera is broken. I want to take pictures and record videos (so I can make vlogs on YouTube and share my experiences with my family and friends) and go out in the morning and come back at night with enough charge. I don’t want my phone to freeze and crash in the middle of all of this.
I wanted to love the S7 Edge so much but the crashing is not okay, but after thinking about it for a few days I wonder if this is something that is not common anymore and something that just happened to me because I’m unlucky. I also still would be open to the idea of a Nexus 6P (especially for the price), but I’m not sure if the slightly worse camera and the much worse battery are a good fit for me. Then again, there’s the iPhone 6s Plus…
What the hell do I do?
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Well, the big question (at least for me), if you'd take the edge (I can do that too[emoji14]), would you get over the already present anixity?
Because if you're not, even when there aren't the faults you experienced before, if you look close enough there can be glitches found on every device (not just talking about s7 edge, but devices from every manufacturer).
Of my own experience, I haven't got any of the problems you described, but I read from others having them in here. Some defectife units are pretty normal at such a big amount of shipped devices, but it's always hard to tell how big the percentage is of reported faults.
Let's play a bit.
Let's consider that people in here are just a fraktion of people owning the phone, let's assume 5% of all users. From those let's assume 10% (which probably is much) have an error of some kind (because there are many lurkers as well and people are much quicker in crying out load, if something isn't working as they are with telling all is fine), which would make 0.5% at all units. Now let's quadruple that amount to take people not being in here with such errors into consideration and where at 2%.
That was not even close to being sientific accurate, but I guess you get what I'm up to, the chance of you getting another unit with those faults is rather small. Also, when you're from canada you get the exynos variant, which, considering reports, has way less problems than the snapdragon variant.
Another thing, why just those 2 options, at least from what you want the G5 would be an option as well. Expandable storage, nice camera (comparable to the s7, from what I've seen it has the upper hand at light shots, while the s7 handles low light better) and maybe worse battery, but you can take a spare with you. For sure only if you're fine with dropping the IP rating, design and wireless charging for the modular design and from what I've seen it's kind of fragile compared to other flagships. Or what about the announced Huawei P9, it may have not such a good SoC, but at least from what's announced it should have an exceptional camera performance).

naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
What the hell do I do?
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Buy the s7 edge again. Had the same shutdown with no button working in the first few days too, I agree it was scary... after an update I haven't had a single reboot.
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naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
All right, I know that the S7 Edge is superior in almost every way to the 6s Plus, but give me a chance to explain my reasoning for being unsure about which one to purchase. Let me just warn you that this will be a long read, but if you love phones as much as I do and would like to kill some time then I hope you will enjoy this post and maybe even have some input to help me make a decision.
First, some history. I had my first smartphone about six years ago, and it was a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. It was glorious when I bought it and I loved it, but after a while it became extremely laggy, froze quite frequently (I would have to remove the battery to turn it off and on), the power button broke, the software got ****ed up and I was not able to go to the home page without my phone freezing and crashing (I fixed this by installing a different launcher from my computer, but it was pretty scary not being able to navigate my phone). All this stuff caused me to kind of lose my trust in Samsung. I even found a note (lol get it) a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty pretty funny, although also slightly worrisome. For the sake of comedy, here it is:
So I got the HTC One M7, kind of ignoring my own advice, and the first two weeks with it were tough (I was paranoid and I found dead pixels on both of the phones they let me look at, the camera made weird sounds, the build quality was much worse than advertised on YouTube, etc) but after I get over these little things, I really enjoyed the phone and the experience was much better than with my Samsung. No lag, no freezing. Pure bliss.
A year later, I realized I need a tablet for school. After considering all my options I went for the latest Samsung tablet, deciding to give them another chance even though my experience was so bad previously. And this time… they disappointed me again. Turning the tablet on by pressing the home button took literally 2 seconds and taking notes in school was impossible because the note-taking app kept crashing. I filmed these things but I don’t know where those videos are now. My friend ended up getting the same tablet and hers was way quicker and didn’t have these problems, so I don’t know why mine was slow. But this made me trust Samsung even less.
So, here I am again. It’s been almost three years and my good ol’ HTC One cannot fulfil my needs anymore, thus it is time for an upgrade. So I wait, and I wait, and the iPhone 6s Plus comes out and I’m amazed by the new 3D touch feature, but I like Android so I wait some more. And then the LG V10 comes out and I like it and decide to buy it, but it isn’t available in Canada. So I wait some more. Then, finally, an angel appears out of nowhere: the beautiful Galaxy S7 Edge. The only problem is… it’s Samsung.
I watch unboxings. I watch reviews. I watch comparisons. This phone is a beast in every way. It has expandable memory, a fantastic display, a crazy battery, amazing cameras, it’s waterproof, it has quick charging, it has wireless charging, etc. Why the hell would someone not want this phone?!
Honestly, I was still unsure about the phone when I decided to buy it (my instinctual fear of Samsung was telling me to stay away). Samsung was having a promotion where they gave you a free 128GB micro SD card if you reserved the phone, so I decided to just reserve it and see what happened. Then when the phone came in, I decided to just buy it and see what happened. Then I traded in my ****ty old non-functional Samsung phone for $125 off the S7 Edge. Then I kind of fell in love with the phone. Well, until things started to go wrong.
You see, I am someone who over-analyzes everything. If I’m buying headphones, I will research headphones every day after work and on the weekends for at least a week. This is pretty much what I did with these phones. Specs-wise, I knew the Edge was obviously the best choice. However, in real-life use it had a few problems, one which I had trouble getting over.
The first of these problems was that the camera would make a weird popping sound when I recorded videos. I actually think this had something to do with Snapchat because it stopped happening a while after I uninstalled it. But that was weird and it made me slightly paranoid.
The second problem was connectivity issues, although this could have been due to my carrier. It was strange though, because I never had problems on my old HTC One M7 with the same carrier. Anyway, they somehow resolved themselves as well.
The most scary problem was the last one. I was talking to my friend on a messaging app (Line, specifically) a few days after buying the phone and suddenly my phone shut down without a warning. It freaked me out because I got flashbacks to six years ago when this would happen all the time on my old Samsung phone. I pushed the thoughts away and said, it was probably a one-off error that won’t happen again.
But alas, it happened again twice on one day (the day before the last day for me to return it, too). The first time I got a text and opened my cover, which would usually turn on the screen, but nothing happened. I pressed the home button. Nothing happened. I pressed all buttons, nothing happened. After about half a minute, the phone restarted. Then the same night, I was talking on Facebook Messenger and it happened again. No matter what I did, no amount of pressing the screen or any buttons would do anything. And then it just turned off and I had to turn it back on by pressing some combination of buttons.
Needless to say, this freaked the **** out of me. I talked to my friends and they all said this wasn’t normal and I should take the phone back for an exchange or in the worst case just return it. So I contacted my local Samsung store and they told me they were out of stock, but that I could check again tomorrow. At this point I was having major Samsung-hell flashbacks and was totally second-guessing my decision and was considering getting the Nexus 6p. So I stayed up until 2 or 3 in the morning (even though I had work the next morning) so I could do some more research, and I found myself in the morning desperately hoping they had no more stock so I could return the damn phone and get a Nexus.
And to my absolute glee, they had no more stock! So I went in and returned the phone, not without a lot of convincing arguments from the salespeople about why I should keep it (“with all these discounts and free stuff you save almost $300!”), as well as giving me a one-day extension so I could come in the next day and get it replaced if they had stock. I spent a week being anxious and stressed I didn’t feel like dealing with this for even a day longer so I returned it and went home and relaxed for the first time in probably a week. I even cried some tears of joy because I had forgotten what it was like not to feel like there is a constant clock ticking, waiting for me to make a decision. Ah, peace at last…
But then I started second-guessing my decision. I didn’t actually want the Nexus; it has an inferior battery, a camera without OIS, and the Snapdragon 810 sounds like a pain in the ass. I was pretty depressed for a day about returning my gorgeous S7 Edge with all those marvelous specs, until I remembered, “Hey, I can always get the iPhone 6s Plus!”
So now we’re finally at the juicy part, after all the rambling and storytelling. I need your help. Samsung has scarred me tremendously, yet I am still so damn drawn to their hardware. My coworker has had a Samsung S6 for half a year and says it has not crashed even once. My other coworker has also had the S6 for a while and she says it's smooth like butter. My best friend has also had a Samsung S6 for a little over a year and she says it only crashed a few times in that whole year. What are your experiences with Samsung’s latest phones? Can Samsung be trusted? Do their phones crash frequently, or do I just somehow curse every Samsung product I buy? A lot of people complained about Samsung becoming laggy after some time, even though their products are amazing initially. Is this still true?
Yet at the same time I somehow cannot seem to bring myself to get the iPhone, knowing all that it’s lacking. It has no quick charging. It has no wireless charging. It has no expandable memory. Its display is worse than my three-year-old HTC One M7’s (what the hell Apple lol). Its battery life is worse than the S7 Edge’s. It’s not waterproof. It has worse low-light pictures. It has slower upload/download speeds. Basically, it is worse in every way, except for two important ones: It has 3D touch, and it’s Apple.
3D touch seems like such a useful feature, both from a user perspective and from a developer perspective. I’m studying computer science and I really want to make mobile apps (I’ve made two already for Android) and 3D touch seems like it’ll be very interesting to incorporate into apps. I’ve also read that iOS devs make more money since iOS users are more likely to spend money, but I guess if my apps have ads then it’ll be more revenue on Android since there are more users there.
The second point I mentioned is that it’s Apple. I own a Macbook Air and used to own an iPad and I have had nothing but great experiences with Apple. My friend has an iPhone and she says it has never crashed. Apple’s customer service is outstanding and they make me feel very secure with my purchases. I know that no matter what happens to my phone, AppleCare+ has got me covered. Also, I’m going on exchange to Asia for a year and it’s nice to know I can take my phone to any Apple store in the world and get it repaired (which I can’t do for any other phone).
Essentially I need a few things from my phone: A good camera, a good battery that can survive a whole day (since I’ll be doing lots of touristy picture and video taking), enough storage for photos and videos (while I’m travelling I’ll want to record lots of videos, although probably not in 4K), and peace of mind. I’m sad that I can’t seem to enjoy Samsung phones as much as other people do, and those damn specs are driving me insane and make me want to buy the phone again right now and give it another try (maybe it was just a bug?). But I’m hesitant and scared of buying a phone that will constantly fail on me just like my old Samsung used to do.
At the same time, I feel silly paying $160CAD more for an iPhone which has much worse specs than the Edge. But is it all about specs, or is it more about the experience? Does it matter if it takes 3 hours to charge to the same amount the Edge charges to in 1 hour? Does it matter if I can’t charge wirelessly? Does it matter if there are less pixels per inch on the screen? Does it matter if the iPhone isn’t waterproof? Does it matter that low-light pictures are worse? Does it matter that the selfie camera is way too damn zoomed in to take any decent group photos without a selfie stick? Does it matter that once I choose a storage size, I can’t expand it? I don’t know. It’s hard to really know how useful or useless these things will be until I use the phone for a long time. If I were rich, I’d buy both. But I’m not and that’s crazy.
I’m going to Asia in September for a full year and my HTC One M7 won’t do. It barely lasts half a day with normal use and the camera is broken. I want to take pictures and record videos (so I can make vlogs on YouTube and share my experiences with my family and friends) and go out in the morning and come back at night with enough charge. I don’t want my phone to freeze and crash in the middle of all of this.
I wanted to love the S7 Edge so much but the crashing is not okay, but after thinking about it for a few days I wonder if this is something that is not common anymore and something that just happened to me because I’m unlucky. I also still would be open to the idea of a Nexus 6P (especially for the price), but I’m not sure if the slightly worse camera and the much worse battery are a good fit for me. Then again, there’s the iPhone 6s Plus…
What the hell do I do?
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naivetiu said:
TL;DR: I realize I'm posting this in the S7 forum, but should I buy the Galaxy S7 Edge or the iPhone 6s Plus? Samsung scarred me for life and I have good experiences with Apple, yet I am drawn by the spec-tacular (lol see what I did there) S7 Edge.
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I have the S7EDGE, none of those issues man. I can tell yoy i had the same experience with sgs4. And man was it painful, way to slow and lags like there is no tomorrow, which made me jump ship and i bought OPO. Now that iam back here at samsung i couldnt be happier. So i would advise you to make the purchase again, because if you get a good unit, which im pretty confident you will, you will have the time of your life

I have a similar feeling about Samsung. They have great hardware but software is awful. Whenever I tried Samsung, I ended up disappointed and said never again. I was using 6s+ until recently when I got S7 Edge and it is really a great phone overall. I know though that I'm not keeping it for a long time and will look later at the next nexus or iPhone 7. The reason is that it will get Android N 6 months later that Nexus and will have software issues and might probably lag as well. Addressing lag by adding memory and better processor is not a smart solution as it will not last long
Why I did switch now? the only reason is the size of the 6s+, it is very big while the S7 Edge is compact. I'm looking forward for a nice Nexus this year, if not then probably iphone 7+ if it will be smaller in size.

I switched from iPhone 6 Plus back to android S7 edge. Iphone 6 plus 6s plus are identical minus the camara n few other things. Didnt think i would ditch apple but the s7 edge is a beauty!!! Loving that i now can connect my push2tv in my truck and send vc txt as eith the iphone i could not. I hate apple with those restrictions. Annoying that i would need to buy an apple tv.
S7 edge ftw!!!

Be together...not the same.
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You obviously want the consistency of Apple; nothing wrong with that. After 5 years of Android i switched from my s6 edge to iPhone 6s Plus... And loved it for the first month because i had just been so fed up with the tiny battery and horrible RAM management of the S6E. but after that first month... I got bored. iOS is a bore in every way possible to me, the screen looks like sh*t after being used to years of AMOLED screens, and i noticed a horrific drop off in picture quality to the point where I just didn't feel like taking pictures anymore. 3D touch was cool... Until i realized i almost never used it.
Do what you need to do man, nothing wrong if you want to join the dark side. but if you're anything like me at all, you'll always feel the call to the light.
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First let me quickly say that I have not had any of the issues you seem to have had with the S7E. After this latest update from Tmobile I'm getting insane battery life. Close to 9 hours SOT and 3% drain per 8 hours in standby.
Now onto the 6S+. I have been an android user since the G1. I loved everything Android and never thought I'd buy an iPhone but last year I decided to give one a try. I wanted to see what it was like and they finally released a phone with a nice sized display. I purchased the 6+ last June and the the 6S+ in September. I thought they were nice phones and the software felt fluid but I grew bored and aggravated . I'm not going to name everything that aggravated me but I will give you two examples that did. The simplest task of making an alarm app work somehow isn't so simple on iOS. Since Apple doesn't give 3rd party apps access to the API you need to make sure you open the alarm app ever night before you fall asleep. Not only that but you also can't have your phone set to vibrate or silent because then you won't hear the alarm. I just feel like every 3rd party app on iOS works as a separate entity rather than some of them working with the phone like one cohesive unit as some do on Android.
When it comes to the Apple app store it is a jumbled up mess. Never in a million years would I have expected it to look the way it does. Good luck finding an app unless you know it's exact name because the search feature inside the app store straight up sucks. Its also a pain to navigate through. So after a few days with the app store I was missing Google Play so bad. I missed those nights when I was bored and would just sit in bed browsing through the Play Store looking for that next cool app to use. The rating system and app review system set in place on Google play are also much better than the Apple app store.
Don't even get me started with 3rd party keyboards on iOS? Go home Apple..... You're drunk!!!
I'd also just like to add one more petpeve of mine. There is no back button. Apple expects 3rd party apps to implement a feature that allows to to swipe to the left in order to go back to the previous screen but sometimes it doesn't work. Not to mention it can get pretty hard when trying to reach the top left corner of a 6S+ while using it with one hand.
I'll end this by saying it was not what I was expecting. Apple fan boys make it seem like iOS apps are so much better than Android apps. I didn't find that to be true at all. Yea there are some apps on iOS that look really good and perform nicely but there is no difference between the popular apps you're likely going to use everyday. If anything I'd say Android has better more versatile apps since they can actually work with the phone rather than something completely separate.
At the end of the day Android had more pros than cons so I decided to use the G7E as my coming home party phone. I lasted a little over half a year with my iphones and at that 6 month mark I was just bord and aggravated. I don't think ever be going back unless Apple makes some major changes.
By the way, in regards to battery life my S7E destroys my 6S+ in every way. It doesn't matter what your using them for. The S7E should inhalate the 6S+ in battery life.
Oh an 3d touch is a gimmick at this point. If implemented correctly I can see it being useful but I feel like Apple just half assed it.
Good luck in your phone endeavors.
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I just abandoned an iPhone 6s+ for the Edge and, for the most part, am very happy. The only issue I have related to the compass and the need to recalibrate after every restart. Absent the recalibration, GPS accuracy suffers. Not sure if this is specific to my phone or signs or a more general issue. I'm told the Galaxy 6 also had this issue. I do miss the Apple ecosystem integration as I also use a MacBook Air.

Like you i told myself get an iPhone or a Nexus...
And then the S7 Edge came... lol
It is a perfect phone except for one aspect - sound quality is S**T compared to the iPhone, and i own the allegedly better Exynos version.
the volume over bluetooth is just too weak to use, and with 3.5mm its just ok.
So bare this in mind if you are going to purchase this phone.

DroidBiteApple said:
Like you i told myself get an iPhone or a Nexus...
And then the S7 Edge came... lol
It is a perfect phone except for one aspect - sound quality is S**T compared to the iPhone, and i own the allegedly better Exynos version.
the volume over bluetooth is just too weak to use, and with 3.5mm its just ok.
So bare this in mind if you are going to purchase this phone.
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I just got the S7 Edge (Exynos = International version) last week, and I couldn't be happier! I moved from a Sony device which has been a real champ through my two years with it (and it's still kicking ass), but I felt like I needed something new. Nothing caught my attention before Samsung announced the S7 Edge. It was, and is, freaking beautiful. I was close to buying the S6 Edge last year, but I didn't do it because of the battery, but this year, hell yeah.
The display, as you already know, is amazing. It's the best mobile display in the world today, and you know it. It has an SD card slot which supports up to 2 TB of memory (Samsung says 200 GB since that's the biggest one you'll get today, but it supports 2 TB). The battery, ooh - the battery. It's ridiculous. My Exynos device just won't die in a day. I'm a medium to heavy user, but good lord, I'm struggling to get it under 50% after a day. I really am.
A buddy of mine has the 6S Plus. He "hates me" now, since I got the S7 Edge. He can clearly see that he has the inferior device. The iPhone is still very very good - for a certain type of people! But some people expect somewhat more out of a 1000 dollar device (yes, that' what I paid for mine), and I have never held a mobile device that has felt as expensive as the Edge. I have the gold version on top of that, so it feels like handling a gold phone (without the weight of gold, of course) when I pick it up. It is fantastic.
Bloat? Mine's not a carrier version so I don't have any carrier bloat, but I do have the Samsung bloat. Luckily, it can mostly be disabled, so that's not an issue. Most of the bloat doesn't take space either since Samsung uses "shells", i.e they don't install whole apps at start, but Chrome f.ex is only 10KB on my device when I disable it (I prefer Samsung Internet with adblock), and it won't "balloon" up to its regular 100MB or whatever unless you update it through the Play Store. It's the same with Facebook etc. The device also comes with 4 GB of RAM, but 512 of those are dedicated to the GPU, so we have 3.5 GB for applications.
I came from a relatively bloat-free Sony device, scared for the Samsung bloat-monster, but I freaking LOVE it. Your little reboot issue must have been a weird bug or glitch, and the US models have received a huge update since you got rid of yours, correcting a lot of bugs and issues (correct me if I'm wrong, people), so I would get the Edge again.
Keep in mind that I have the Exynos version, so keep in mind that some thing will be a little different. Do I recommend this beast? Yes. It's definitely a head-turner, the hardware is the best I've ever seen and the software is solid (but you could encounter a bug or two, like you did).
You wrote a lengthy post, so you deserve something better than "get the s7, it kicks butt", or whatever. Got any questions? Not a problem.

You might as well just wait for the iPhone 7s if you're so interested in apple
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Need To Move On

Battery on my Release Day N6 is dying. Only charges on the Turbo Charge and drains way to fast.
I can move on and the Pixel XL looks like my best option, (I'm not in love wit the Pixel) because the Moto Z Force will never have root and that's a great phone.
OR
My buddy does phone repair and has the heat gun, tools etc and I can swap batteries with another N6 I have that the screen is shattered on. But It'd be a week before I can get to his house :/
Truth is, I'm ready for a new phone. What do YOU guys think, is there one I'm missing that I can love as much as the N6, or just fix mine and hope VZW gets the Zenfone AR if it ever gets released?

I just got oneplus 3t just for the time being. Honestly, it is one of the best phone for the price. Had honor 8 briefly, but I'm not a fan of EMUI 5.0. plus honor U.S.A is pretty slow rolling out the software update.
Oneplus is pretty fast on updating their software. I mean at the end of the day, Its kinda ridiculous to spend $650 and up for a smartphone nowadays.
Oh and I still have my nexus 6 as my back up, the phone is still getting the job done for my usage.

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I just got oneplus 3t just for the time being. Honestly, it is one of the best phone for the price. Had honor 8 briefly, but I'm not a fan of EMUI 5.0. plus honor U.S.A is pretty slow rolling out the software update.
Oneplus is pretty fast on updating their software. I mean at the end of the day, Its kinda ridiculous to spend $650 and up for a smartphone nowadays.
Oh and I still have my nexus 6 as my back up, the phone is still getting the job done for my usage.
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Nexus 6 batteries are between $12 & $20 on Amazon. That's pretty cheap. I think it's worth the trouble. There's some YouTube videos on changing that battery and it doesn't look too difficult. Plus you have an extra Nexus 6 to practice on if I'm reading the OP correctly.

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Nexus 6 batteries are between $12 & $20 on Amazon. That's pretty cheap. I think it's worth the trouble. There's some YouTube videos on changing that battery and it doesn't look too difficult. Plus you have an extra Nexus 6 to practice on if I'm reading the OP correctly.
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That's the way I'm gonna go. I really don't want a Pixel, unless someone finds root for the Droid Z Force or that Asus comes to Verizon

Nexus 6p or buy another Nexus 6

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That's the way I'm gonna go. I really don't want a Pixel, unless someone finds root for the Droid Z Force or that Asus comes to Verizon
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I still love my shamu 64GB I plan on changing my battery whenever it stops holding a charge. All rechargeable batteries have a finite number of times they can be charged before they start acting the way yours is now. Once your battery is replaced with a quality replacement you'll likely be good for a couple of years and shamu is still an awesome device in my opinion. I'm a little apprehensive about changing my own Nexus 6 battery but when the time comes I'm gonna give it a try. Let us know how it goes.

@HipKat don't go for Nexus 5x or 6p as both suffers from some hardware related bootloop issue. Just go to their respective forums and anyone can have a look at the Q&A section. Not worth the trouble as the phone is bound to randomly die at some point.
If those are your only option and you won't change carrier to get a OnePlus 3T, then I would go for one of the Pixels as they at least has good custom ROM support. If you don't care about custom ROM support then it's up to your preference.

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@HipKat don't go for Nexus 5x or 6p as both suffers from some hardware related bootloop issue. Just go to their respective forums and anyone can have a look at the Q&A section. Not worth the trouble as the phone is bound to randomly die at some point.
If those are your only option and you won't change carrier to get a OnePlus 3T, then I would go for one of the Pixels as they at least has good custom ROM support. If you don't care about custom ROM support then it's up to your preference.
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@bigbaluka I watched a few vids and it seems decent. Like I posted, my buddy has all the tools. We work for Dish Network and he's one of the guys that does screen repair and battery replacement for iPhone and Samsung devices. (Don'tr ask me WHY Dish is doing this....)

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Believe me, custom development is a HUGE factor and I wouldn't go for an old phone.
@bigbaluka I watched a few vids and it seems decent. Like I posted, my buddy has all the tools. We work for Dish Network and he's one of the guys that does screen repair and battery replacement for iPhone and Samsung devices. (Don'tr ask me WHY Dish is doing this....)
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I'm not sure I'd replace the 6 for a 6p or a 5X. I got a 5X and it was more for the size, but I can't say it overperforms the 6 plus there are the potential bootloop issues. The Pixel is OK, but you'll be paying up big time and esp if you are not really keen about it, it's a decent chunk of money to drop down. Sounds like you like your 6, I'd just try and replace the battery since it sounds like that's the only issue. It were different if it was a broken screen or something else, but battery I'd just do that.

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I'm not sure I'd replace the 6 for a 6p or a 5X. I got a 5X and it was more for the size, but I can't say it overperforms the 6 plus there are the potential bootloop issues. The Pixel is OK, but you'll be paying up big time and esp if you are not really keen about it, it's a decent chunk of money to drop down. Sounds like you like your 6, I'd just try and replace the battery since it sounds like that's the only issue. It were different if it was a broken screen or something else, but battery I'd just do that.
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Yeah, agreed. I did 2 things, found a different USB cable, which looks like it solved the charging problem and switched to Dark Rom which seems to have amazing battery life. I think it'll still drain faster until I get the battery switched, so I must have had a few problems going on; bad cable, deteriorating ROM and battery that doesn't hold a charge like It used to

While my N6 isn't quick as old as yours, I have definitely noticed a lag of late. Taking pictures especially.
And while it might be nowhere near the same class as the N6, I think the Moto G5 Plus might be a good replacement. Sure, the screen size is considerably smaller, it lacks dual front-facing speakers, NFC, etc. but that price! I like the design, and as the kernel source code has already been released, my hope is that the dev community will build some nice roms for this little guy.
We'll see what Motorola does with the true Moto X replacement (not the "Is it a Moto X or is it a Moto E" we are seeing). But that Moto G5 Plus price is hard to ignore.
I just think the Pixel is too expensive. They might solve all of the issues with the release of the Pixel 2, but who wants to spend $1k on a phone?

@Fvolfrine and others:
Lag when starting the camera is a feature of Android from around KitKat or so. The ram that the camera needs is made available for other use, and then the camera has to wait for it to be released.
It makes other apps faster, but the start of the camera significantly shower. You may agree or disagree with that trade-off, but as far as I know, it's the same on all recent phones. Though of course, it matters less if the phone has a lot of ram.
From what I read, the Moto G5 plus has hardware that is approximately as powerful as the N6. So the only way it can have less lag is if its rom is better optimized - and while that may be the case for the stock roms, the N6 has a large community of devs that provide greatly optimized roms.

@runekock - my lag isn't so much when starting the camera as it is when taking a picture. Even with HDR+ turned off, it takes 4-5 seconds for the picture to take. I've had this same experience on stock, and now on PureNexus, which I flashed about five days ago.

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@runekock - my lag isn't so much when starting the camera as it is when taking a picture. Even with HDR+ turned off, it takes 4-5 seconds for the picture to take. I've had this same experience on stock, and now on PureNexus, which I flashed about five days ago.
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Few weeks ago I wasn't able to turn on wifi any more. After factory reset and cache wipe I got it to turn on few times then it died again. I'm suspecting a hw problem. Now that Dark Rom is available for our phone, I might try my luck with that, but I'm not very optimistic.
I really liked this phone a lot. Now I have the option of getting new motherboard for 50€ or new phone (looking at iPhone 6s Plus or 7 Plus cause of that mega battery and brightness, but that price tho.. Was also looking at Pixel but I read it has too many problems + warranty outside my country).
Is Nexus 6 worth fixing (for 50€ + risk of messing something up during repair)?

For 50€ i would take the risk.

Used Nexus 6s still went for over US$100 last time I looked at ebay. If fixing one is $20, that seems a decent investment to me. My battery is about worn out so I will be doing just that soon.
If there are ever charging issues or USB cords falling out, check for lint in the USB port. My first N6 had that issue.

I started having charging issues with my 2 year old shamu a few months ago, getting a new oem charger fixed the problem for me and it's still going strong. I've got a 5x as well, but it doesn't get used much, shamu is a better device.

gonna add my own experience to the mix hoping it would be helpful to some, My N6's battery also started showing signs of a problem few month back after maybe more than a year of usage and it got worse over time. the problem is i cannot get my hand on a new battery anytime soon and i cannot use my N6 as a daily driver as it just dies randomly so i thought i go for the Galaxy S7 since the price was dropped prior to S8 launch and i did, but oh my, going from a heavily developed phone like N6 to S7 is really boring and no fun, might have just got an iphone and it would be just as dull.
so, if you gonna give up your N6 i suggest replace it with another nexus/pixel phone. but if you gonna keep it as a second phone (for whatever reason) then its up to you and your desires and needs, and ofc you cannot forget about the price tag.

Essential PH-1 now $500. OP5 owner thoughts?

As titles says, this phone is now $500.
Any thoughts from current OP5 owners? Cheaper than 5 at list price, likely cheaper than 5T when it comes out. Only 4GB of RAM, though, and no headphone jack. Reports say camera isn't great, but improving.
I personally love the build of it, though.
The phone definitely has its limitations, but at $500, It's going to give OnePlus a run for its money I think.
Thoughts?

Love the hardware, but then again I'm not a huge fan of bezeless devices, it just doesn't matter to me that much. You'll get a lot of development for OP5 tho and almost none on the PH1. Both get regular updates, both have camera struggles. I haven't seen any battery stats for the PH1, but the my OP5 is doing great, I'm really satisfied. Also heard there are still software issues with the Essential PH1, like lag, stutters app crashes and app not being optimized to take advantage of the screen. I don't care about headphone jacks, it was always the first thing to break on any of my devices, I switched to BT 2 years ago and never looked back.
I'd keep my OP5 though, I'm really satisfied with it. The PH1 has too many compromises that it shouldn't be considered even for $500 dollars. That's the thing with 1st gen products, handful of companies get it right on the first try.

Clean Android, I think the camera blobs are available (unlike OP5) and solid construction got my attention. And the screen is flat. It looks like a great deal to me.

I'd still just wait to see what Essential 2nd gen has to offer. Their first go at it was good, but not good enough for me to pull the trigger on

wow...$499 is a good price. probably would have bought it if they changed the price 3 weeks earlier..

If the ph-1 gets some software development, it would make it a great phone and deal at 499. Hopefully at that price it will

No root yet... Also on Verizon its horrible
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My thoughts are that I'll never buy a phone on launch day again.

Nah, I think it's pretty ugly with that friggin camera notch at the top. There is a reason it's price dropped already.

Regrets? Overrated?

So, i'm a noob to 1+ devices having got my 6T last November and it being my first 1+ device ever. Overall, I really like the device and it's definitely one of the best I've owned. I just don't feel it has lived up to all the hype. I have two lines and still use my Pixel 2XL and lately I'm finding myself liking my P2XL more than my 6T. Believe it or not I feel like my P2XL is faster and more fluid. Anyone else feel similar? I'm not trying to bash the 6T I'm just curious if anyone else feels like me.

Make sure you're on the latest firmware (9.0.11). The 6T OWNS the Pixel 3, let alone the 2, in just about every area except the camera, which gets better with every update. Give it a real chance, you wont be disappointed.

No regrets here. Absolutely love the 6T. My favorite device I've owned and I've owned plenty.

A little regret because I can benefit from its top specs at all. It doesn't support volte or vowifi in Canada.
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So, i'm a noob to 1+ devices having got my 6T last November and it being my first 1+ device ever. Overall, I really like the device and it's definitely one of the best I've owned. I just don't feel it has lived up to all the hype. I have two lines and still use my Pixel 2XL and lately I'm finding myself liking my P2XL more than my 6T. Believe it or not I feel like my P2XL is faster and more fluid. Anyone else feel similar? I'm not trying to bash the 6T I'm just curious if anyone else feels like me.
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I am kind of in similar situation.. I have Pixel 2 XL and bought OnePlus 6T.. Though 6T is faster, I feel my 2 XL is smoother and has better experience overall.. and man 6T kills my apps even after disabling all battery optimizations... I even miss voice calls and WhatsApp calls sometimes... Thinking of returning 6T

I had a P2XL previously and moved to a 6T in November. Unless things have improved lately, I found the 6T to be smoother for me. As stated by others, the only area I think the P2XL was better was in the camera, though I have been quite impressed by the pictures taken on the 6T for its price, especially with recent updates. I know we have the GCam port, but think it's still quite buggy. I would be very happy if somehow the HDR+ algorithm was integrated into the stock camera, though highly unlikely. No regrets here.

The obly regret is camera and camera app. The xamera app is so bad, no video recording options

Overrated imo, Price is too high now for what we get their is better value to be had elsewhere, Mi Mix 3 for example in UK it's the same price, Better Camera sensors/software, Better Display and wireless charging etc. OP3 was awesome for it's low price but OP6T doesn't live up to that, OnePlus hype is over for me probably my last OnePlus device.

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Overrated imo, Price is too high now for what we get their is better value to be had elsewhere, Mi Mix 3 for example in UK it's the same price, Better Camera sensors/software, Better Display and wireless charging etc. OP3 was awesome for it's low price but OP6T doesn't live up to that, OnePlus hype is over for me probably my last OnePlus device.
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Well said. The development for Xiaomi devices has been very good, I think that is what I will try next.

No regrets here either, have owned a lot of phones in the past and this one of the best if not the best. Miss wireless charging but the beast battery last forever.

Only had the 6T for a little over a month. Had the OnePlus one, but did not like it. Too many glitches.
They've improved a bunch. For the price, in my opinion, good bang for the buck!
I've owned a LOT of phones over the years. OP6T ranks right up there as far as I'm concerned.

Regrets? Most phones with this hardware are around 1000 euro. Almost every phone factory gets very greedy.

Well the fact that I got this phone for $280 bucks by trading in my s7 edge, I would say is the best deal for any phone I've ever had except for the HTC amaze which I got for free from staples 5 years ago. I would not have paid 580 as I have a brand new note 8 so it was just a back up. It's my 1st and I think it's nice, better then most at this price point.

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Regrets? Most phones with this hardware are around 1000 euro. Almost every phone factory gets very greedy.
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Don't forget OnePlus is a budget phone with flagship SoC, Storage/RAM only rest of the phone is just cut corners to keep the cost low.

Do you tend to own phones for more than two years? If not, you'll see the overall value and abilities OnePlus devices tend to offer over other devices in the fragmentation department. My OnePlus 3 was still going very strong and I only updated because I was a sucker for the 6T. But truthfully, I never had an issue with my 3 slowing down or developing faults. I can't say the same for any LG, Samsung, or Motorola devices I've owned. OnePlus failure rates are some of the lowest in the industry, and it's evident as to why if you see videos of their manufacturing process on YouTube (Linus Tech Tips and Unbox Therapy I believe).
Sure, other devices may have explosive features that OnePlus may not always include. But at what cost? For the price, stability, support and power that you get with a OnePlus is unmatched. The 3 is STILL getting updates and works great. But if you're someone who updates regularly, I can see why maybe you'd feel like you're missing out.

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The obly regret is camera and camera app. The xamera app is so bad, no video recording options
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You know, I thought the same thing but if you take the time to figure out the software its really not that bad at all. Coming from a Pixel 2 XL, I am content with these photos but it seriously took me some time to get used to the camera. Work on your focus, leave HDR on auto; you will be good.
No regrets here.

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You know, I thought the same thing but if you take the time to figure out the software its really not that bad at all. Coming from a Pixel 2 XL, I am content with these photos but it seriously took me some time to get used to the camera. Work on your focus, leave HDR on auto; you will be good.
No regrets here.
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I just cant stand those oil painting finish photos. Its app problem because on gcam photos looks much better, more details and no oil paint effect.
And i cannot use the stock camera app for movies. There are no settings or options. No focus lenght, no white ballance, no controls for manual control.

Well, if anyone cares I can say that the 6t has been the most awful phone I have ever owned. I literally now own a $700 brick. And OnePlus the company should be ashamed of themselves. I am fighting to get this phone running. And customer support has gone 100% silent on me. My last call, I got the perpetu-hold by the agent and I hung up after about 30 minutes of waiting for her to "consult a coworker". It's been so bad that I am trying to social shame them. I have a youtube post titled "Why my OnePlus 6T sucks and OnePlus Support is awful". I would link it, but I'm too new on the forum.
It's why I'm now on this forum trying anything I can to get this phone working.

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Well, if anyone cares I can say that the 6t has been the most awful phone I have ever owned. I literally now own a $700 brick. And OnePlus the company should be ashamed of themselves. I am fighting to get this phone running. And customer support has gone 100% silent on me. My last call, I got the perpetu-hold by the agent and I hung up after about 30 minutes of waiting for her to "consult a coworker". It's been so bad that I am trying to social shame them. I have a youtube post titled "Why my OnePlus 6T sucks and OnePlus Support is awful". I would link it, but I'm too new on the forum.
It's why I'm now on this forum trying anything I can to get this phone working.
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Well... Why did it stop working?

I have shifted from my iPhone 6s to Oneplus 6t. The main reason for the shift to Oneplus specifically in Andorid is the gestures it offers - switching apps, closing apps etc
After 1 month of usage, I believe Oneplus is the phone, if you want to get things done. Its fast, its battery is amazing. The reason why some people get annoyed is because its just too fast and for this reason it doesn't seem fluid. But trust me, using the iphone for years, I did enjoy the fluidic experience, however, I don't like it anymore and prefer speed, performance and battery life and Oneplus delivers on all these aspects. The teardrop notch and in screen fingerprint make the experience even better

Would you buy again?

Hey guys,
I am seriously tempted by the one plus 8 pro but all the screen issues scare me. Would you guys but it again given your time over our would you avoid it? I am also looking at the oppo find X2 pro but I don't know much about oppo and how good they are at updating their phones

Me, along with 3 friends, got the BA version at release. None of us have the screen issue though. Even if I would have had it, and RMA:d the phone, I would do it again. the phone is too amazing to miss out on! I am rooted however, and none of my friends root their devices. I run Omega kernel and have 0 issues, but all of my 3 friends get the "overheated" message several times a day (I haven't gotten it even once). I would draw the conclusion - If you root and are willing to use custom kernels, go for it! If you want to keep stock, you might aswell want to check for alternatives.

Thanks for that. I have rooted with past phones but Google pay is important to me so haven't been able to root anymore. Saw a few posts in standard 8 forum complaining about NFC payments not working properly. Anyone else seen that?

Difficult question It is a great device with nearly all features I like in a top smartphone, especially the addition of wireless charging suits me fine.
My major gripe is actually with the size of the device, while its thin it feels very large (both in width and height) and I'm not sure I like it for an everyday-carry device.
Plus I sorely feel a lack of communication from OP with regard to some of the initial issues and their status when it comes to OOS - screen, fingerprint....
Presently I am very torn between the OP8Pro and a Mi 10 Pro - both great in their own way, its quite possible the form factor and size will lean towards the Xiaomi in the end.....
To answer directly: no, I most probably wouldn't buy such a large device again..... Would I buy the 8 Pro again, aside from its size but rather its features: yes, anytime !

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Thanks for that. I have rooted with past phones but Google pay is important to me so haven't been able to root anymore. Saw a few posts in standard 8 forum complaining about NFC payments not working properly. Anyone else seen that?
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I use GPay several times a day. All you need to do is enable Magisk Hide and it's all good. If someone has other issues with it, it's probably not root/Magisk-related but something else they tinkered with... My assumption.
On my 6T some public betas weren't CTS verified, thos times I had to use the MagiskHide Props Config module to get it working, but no such issues on 8Pro. But I assume, if they start releaseing betas, this would be the solution once again.

I'd buy again.
Coming from 4 google devices in a row. 6P, 2xl, 3xl and 4xl.
I enjoyed them all and there is definitely something about getting all that google offers first but the 8 pro is far and away a better phone and phone experience.
And, so far, updates have come right on the heels of when google updates their line of phones so that's a great thing so far.
And, as someone said above, you can still have google pay while being rooted.
Also, I've had zero screen issues but there is something going on with wifi that I can't quite put my finger on.

Big yes. the phone is the best of the best and the screen day after day all the green tint and black crush gone.
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Big yes. the phone is the best of the best and the screen day after day all the green tint and black crush are gone.
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In a heratbeat! IMO, this is one of the best Android devices to come down the pike in a long time.

Thanks for the replies guys. I have gone ahead and ordered one from Amazon, arrives tomorrow. Chose Amazon as they don't question any returns

Short answer - no.
Longer answer - I've had one for a few days and I've already decided to either return it or sell it on Swappa. My main gripe is the camera. I had seen so many reviews saying Oneplus had finally nailed the camera so I decided to give it a try. Maybe I'm just unlucky, but my camera experience has been hot garbage. Every time I try taking a picture, no matter what the lighting conditions are or the camera mode I'm in, the pictures come out looking awful. I'll tap the shutter button, get the haptic feedback, and then the camera will just hang for a full second before it finally takes the picture. If I'm taking a picture of a still object, in bright lighting, and I make an extra effort to hold my hands as still as possible while all that goes on, then the end result will be about 60% as good as what I can get by just quickly pointing and shooting with my Pixel 4 XL. If the situation is anything less than that absolute ideal, the end result is a blurry smeary overexposed mess.
Before anyone asks, I am updated to the most recent software, I've tried rebooting the phone, doing a factory reset, shooting in all the different camera modes, and adjusting every camera setting there is - none of it has made the quality anything better than mediocre at best to lousy in general.

Yes, this is my daily driver and no looking back! Cheers

I'd do it again. I still go back and forth with my Note 10+ and S20 Ultra, but this is definitely a more bloat free and smoother experience overall. I don't have the green tint issue or the horrible grey's when the screen is super dim but I do have that trailing shadow line that runs next to the camera. But I hardly notice that so no big deal.

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..... Maybe I'm just unlucky, but my camera experience has been hot garbage.....
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Your description sounds as if something is defective with the camera, at least it doesn't fit at all to my experience with the 8 Pro camera ! I did a lot of comparisons between the 8 Pro, an P40 Pro and a Mi 10 Pro - with the main camera all of the three are very comparable, with slight advantages to one or the other in some scenarios....
Now images are always subjective in interpretation, but IMHO the 8 Pro is definitely capable of taking very nice shots in all situations and that without much fiddling ....

I'm not sure I would buy it again, mainly because of the price.
The OP8 Pro is a fantastic device but 900 euros is a lot of money.
OnePlus is gonna release in July a device which is way more affordable, I think it's gonna be a better buy (even if it lacks features)

Yeah I would buy again. I have no blind loyalty to any brand but when I apply my "filters" to the huge list of current phones on the market, only this one remained. When I shop for a phone, I look for the right balance of top specs & mod friendliness, features, parts and price. This time around, the balance wasn't quite as good (price/wireless charging/IP68 rating) and a few other, cheaper phones came close to being the top choice for me.

skoobee said:
Hey guys,
I am seriously tempted by the one plus 8 pro but all the screen issues scare me. Would you guys but it again given your time over our would you avoid it? I am also looking at the oppo find X2 pro but I don't know much about oppo and how good they are at updating their phones
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Most people don't have this issue, problems tend to make more noise than benefits.
The benefits I can assure you completely outweigh the bad on a huge scale..
I have zero issues, I've also never had any issues ever reported, on any of my devices since the G1.
The chances of having these reported problems whilst possible remains extremely small..
Seeing one person getting a couple of dodgy devices in a row does not mean everyone else's devices are the same.
My advice, by it from somewhere where they have a quick swap out capability. A shop, a reputable reseller.
So the timeout if your get that unlucky will be minimal.
You'll have this same problem with any of the other devices you ever decide to buy

No, because it is not a big upgrade or difference from my op7p...

Got my one plus 8 pro today. Screen is lovely. Not seen any issues with it but I haven't gone looking as I am using it like a phone and not at minimum brightness etc. But disappointed to see WiFi calling doesn't work on Vodafone UK, just as well I get great signal anyway

I probably would buy again but the no dual-sim is annoying me more as time passes.

How do you mean, no dual SIM?

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