Guys, I got this super offer for android head unit..i have same basic knowledge and i understand that 2gb is minimum. This one is 1gb ram and 16gn rom 1.6 quad core, android 4.4.4.. I got a super cheap price for this unit and if you guys dont mind having a look and tell your opinion on this. Is this any good? Can i somehow upgrade it if its not that good. Thanks in an advance, I cant post links since i am a new user but this is the model i have:
Model Number: D90-9028
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Hello.
I just bought one of these 2 DIN android head units, it should arrive next week.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-Double-2din-CAR-MP3-MP5-Player-Radio-Quad-Core-Android-4-4-gps-Bluetooth-GPS-/112071545669?hash=item1a17fc1345:g:4aoAAOSwFe5Xz7t8
Anyone knows the brand/make or has any relevant info about this device regarding it's amplifier power and overall quality?.
It's based on the typical RK3188 platform with 1GB of RAM and 16GB storage, so i guess that it may be compatible with other systems roms based on the same hardware.
Probably an MTCB.
Overall quality: not better than "junk".
Personally, I wouldn't waste the time to install it.
Why would you buy something without knowing what it is?
Well, someone has to do it since you can't find any info about this device on the entire web. And judging by your answer you have no idea either, so I guess i'll just wait for someone else's knowledge or just wait quietly for it to arrive and test it by myself.
@Habieru, check out the RK-A701 thread below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...stions-development/info-unit-rk-a701-t3460559
Also, check out this google search: https://www.google.com/#q=rk-a701
Anyway, from my quick search, the RK-A701 head unit does not appear to have the MTC type MCU, and no one appears to have found a way to access recovery and flash any custom firmware yet. On the plus side, the RK-A701 is cost effective, has the higher resolution 1024x600 display, and root can be achieved with kingoroot or kingroot. That said, if cost is not a major concern, I'd recommend stepping up to one of the new Joying Intel units with 2GB of RAM or at a minimum any MTC type MCU unit or any Newsmy Carpad with 2GB of RAM.
Hope this helps...
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Thank you very much @rhacy , that's the kind of info i was looking for.
After fully reading that thread, and some russian blog reviews i can conclude that this unit is just as you say, a cheap unit with no major highlights but gets the job done. Pretty much what i need because cost is a concern for me and this device offers pretty much the same as the others.
My father has one of those new Intel Sofia X3 headunits with lollipop and it sounds great, but i must say that performace wise the X3 is terrible compared to the RK3188. So for now i'm going to give this unit a trial, and if it does not meet some minimum standards i can just sell it.
And again, thank you very much for your help.
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to buy my first HU and after reading the forums for a while I'm undecided what to pick.
It looks like the Intel Sofia platform is the current recommendation - it comes with 2gb, the CPU is powerful enough and it has some support for fastboot. However from what I can tell there's no custom ROM for it (Malaysk is only for RK3x88 series) which is kinda of a big minus for me (since one is at the mercy of the seller).
Am I missing something? From what I can tell the RK3188 and Sofia CPUs are more or less identical in terms of performance, the RAM being the big difference.
I'm looking for stability (not going to play games or videos on the HU - I just want waze and probably the radio) first so a slower, older CPU with a solid community and ROM behind it fits my list.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
selbyog said:
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to buy my first HU and after reading the forums for a while I'm undecided what to pick.
It looks like the Intel Sofia platform is the current recommendation - it comes with 2gb, the CPU is powerful enough and it has some support for fastboot. However from what I can tell there's no custom ROM for it (Malaysk is only for RK3x88 series) which is kinda of a big minus for me (since one is at the mercy of the seller).
Am I missing something? From what I can tell the RK3188 and Sofia CPUs are more or less identical in terms of performance, the RAM being the big difference.
I'm looking for stability (not going to play games or videos on the HU - I just want waze and probably the radio) first so a slower, older CPU with a solid community and ROM behind it fits my list.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
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Theres no "current recommendation", its all down to personal opinion. The Sofia units are ok (both MTCD and "009" versions), so are the Rockchip RK3188 MTCB/C/D ones which bring the benefit of custom ROMs. The Rockchip ones dont come with 2GB as standard and (in Lollipop guise at least) they need it, but that can be added relatively easily. However, the latest MTCD versions and Klyde's versions (probably MTCC but no ones sure at the mo) use the octacore Rockchip PX5 (RK3368) so should offer better performance than the Sofia or RK3188 units.
Your only option for custom ROMs at least at the moment are the RK3188 units. Another benefit of the MTCB/C type is that theres a particularly good audio mod that gives control of the audio chip to Android, although youd have to be able to solder to do it.
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Theres no "current recommendation", its all down to personal opinion. The Sofia units are ok (both MTCD and "009" versions), so are the Rockchip RK3188 MTCB/C/D ones which bring the benefit of custom ROMs. The Rockchip ones dont come with 2GB as standard and (in Lollipop guise at least) they need it, but that can be added relatively easily. However, the latest MTCD versions and Klyde's versions (probably MTCC but no ones sure at the mo) use the octacore Rockchip PX5 (RK3368) so should offer better performance than the Sofia or RK3188 units.
Your only option for custom ROMs at least at the moment are the RK3188 units. Another benefit of the MTCB/C type is that theres a particularly good audio mod that gives control of the audio chip to Android, although youd have to be able to solder to do it.
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Thanks for the reply. Soldering extra RAM is not something I can do easy - I lack expertise and getting hardware in EU tends to be expensive and slow; I'd much rather pay extra (and wait) to have it built in the factory.
I'll keep an eye on the RK3368 boards.
Any idea whether these would be ROM friendly ?
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Thanks for the reply. Soldering extra RAM is not something I can do easy - I lack expertise and getting hardware in EU tends to be expensive and slow; I'd much rather pay extra (and wait) to have it built in the factory.
I'll keep an eye on the RK3368 boards.
Any idea whether these would be ROM friendly ?
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I m in the EU and I got my RAM for about $30 in the group buy, theres a thread open at the mo, they took 3 days to arrive. It would just be a case of finding somewhere to do the soldering for you, thats what most people have done.
If the Klyde PX5 units are MTCC it should mean that anyone with an MTCB or MTCC unit currently could simply change their SoM for a PX5 one, we just dont know yet (the original MTCB units were dual core RK3066 and a lot of people just upgraded their SoMs to the quadcore RK3188). Well, we dont know until someone buys one - theyve been on sale since November, but if they are MTCC an upgrade to a PX5 would be possible if you bought an MTCB or C RK3188 and upgraded the RAM, then youd be able to sell your RK3188 SoM with 2GB RAM as it would be quite sort after due to the extra RAM . . IF theyre MTCC that is.
All that may be a bit long winded for you but at least youd have access to a custom ROM as you wanted with the possibility of upgrading in the future to a version that is more likely to have support from current MTCB custom ROM makers (I m assuming theyd eventually upgrade to PX5 units themselves and start making ROMs for them).
Or you could just buy a Klyde PX5 unit now and have the most up to date unit, but with no custom ROMs support yet :
http://www.szklyde.com/bmw-android-car-dvd-player/38112008.html
If I sound MTCB/C biased, well I have 2 so I am. But from what I ve read the Sofia MTCD and 009 units are good too and at least theoretically easier to make a custom ROM for because Intel release their source code, unlike Rockchip. But no custom ROMs exist as yet.
Thanks again!
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I m in the EU
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Cool - where did you buy your units? Any with warehouses in EU?
typos1 said:
If I sound MTCB/C biased, well I have 2 so I am. But from what I ve read the Sofia MTCD and 009 units are good too and at least theoretically easier to make a custom ROM for because Intel release their source code, unlike Rockchip. But no custom ROMs exist as yet.
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Klyde's unit indicates support for Android 6.0.1 while Intel's on 5.x and most MTCB on 4.x. Reading the forums I thought a MTCD board is required for android 5.x but it looks like that might not be the case - I guess in the end it depends on the manufacturer.
Btw, I read that one nice thing about Sofia is the fastboot feature which is not present on RK31xx/30xx units - not sure whether this is SoM or MCU specific. Do you have this feature on your units?
I like your idea about using an existing, tried-out platform (RK3188) with upgraded ram and custom ROM - it was my initial plan but the whole prospect was off putting.
I'll ask around to see how complicated/expensive would be to do the soldering.
Cheers,
selbyog said:
Thanks again!
Cool - where did you buy your units? Any with warehouses in EU?
Klyde's unit indicates support for Android 6.0.1 while Intel's on 5.x and most MTCB on 4.x. Reading the forums I thought a MTCD board is required for android 5.x but it looks like that might not be the case - I guess in the end it depends on the manufacturer.
Btw, I read that one nice thing about Sofia is the fastboot feature which is not present on RK31xx/30xx units - not sure whether this is SoM or MCU specific. Do you have this feature on your units?
I like your idea about using an existing, tried-out platform (RK3188) with upgraded ram and custom ROM - it was my initial plan but the whole prospect was off putting.
I'll ask around to see how complicated/expensive would be to do the soldering.
Cheers,
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Lollipop has been out for MTCB/C for about a year, this applies to ALL manufacturers and all RK3188 units, Klyde are the only ones who do Lollipop ROMs but the ROM can be used on ANY MTCB/C RK3188 device because they all use the same SoM. Some people find it laggy (I dont) but the 2GB RAM sorts that. Boot time is 20 - 30 seconds depending on what ROM you use, but there is no specific fast boot feature.
I did a group buy as ordering just 2 modules is expensive, but read the second RAM group buy thread in the MTCB hardware mod section and pm the guy who did it I think there may be some left.
Hi,
I bought car with exactly this unit
aliexpress.com/item/Android-car-dvd-for-CRV-2006-2011-with-gps-steering-wheel-ipod-touch-512mb-RAM-free/711660356.html
*** Report from an obsolete version of CPU identifier ***
Bogomips+loadtime:799.53.80 72.5.46
Device identified: imx51_bbg (Freescale MX51 Babbage Board)
E:10000- Inches:5.83-7.0
1)unknown
2)imx51_bbg
3)imx51_bbg
4)imx51_bbg
Build machine:carit-S3420GPV
Creator:allen
Board:Freescale MX51 Babbage Board_ <>
Speed:160000 - 800000 States:1
detection2: Qualcomm MSM7627T/MSM7227(-1,T) 800.0Mhz
detection1: Freescale i.MX51
(IA:Freescale based device)
Version 8.5.0.000.s-.1.1.B Mem391
Adaptation: <imx51_bbg> 2 false 1003Mb 0.0C
2.2 Froyo, 800
Is it possible to update Android to JB or newer? If yes help me please. I searched the forum and have not found answer. I believe that you can help me. Sorry if I posted in the wrong place.
Regards
Probably not, you'd have to customize your ROM to meet the requirements of that hardware.
It looks unusually old and slow.
http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com/l/251/Qualcomm-MSM7627
This is a really low-end CPU, with only 1/2 GB of RAM! Even the RK3188 or RK3066 units have 1GB of RAM.
It looks like the used the cheapest hardware, stripped down an old, seriously obsolete version of android, and charged you a lot of money only because it fits into your vehicle nicely.
Wow! That's the problem with the custom-made ones: you really have to be careful of what you are buying.
CaptShaft said:
Probably not, you'd have to customize your ROM to meet the requirements of that hardware.
It looks unusually old and slow.
This is a really low-end CPU, with only 1/2 GB of RAM! Even the RK3188 or RK3066 units have 1GB of RAM.
It looks like the used the cheapest hardware, stripped down an old, seriously obsolete version of android, and charged you a lot of money only because it fits into your vehicle nicely.
Wow! That's the problem with the custom-made ones: you really have to be careful of what you are buying.
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I bought Honda with this unit. URL is old and not active. Any ideas what can i do with this Fryo?
jumper3 said:
I bought Honda with this unit. URL is old and not active. Any ideas what can i do with this Fryo?
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Sell on ebay and see if you can get a few bucks for it.
https://www.carjoying.com/head-unit/c-h/honda-head-units/honda-crv-radio.html
Here's a bunch of Joying units with the newer Intel Sofia processor.
https://www.carjoying.com/head-unit...on-1024-600-pip-touchscreen-bluetooth-wi.html
This looks like it would fit. Double check to make sure.
I know it's a pain but once you get this in there you'll thank yourself and never look back.
Don't be cheap, buy something new. Its not like these units are expensive now, they are essentially disposable at their prices.
With it running Froyo there's little you can do.... Does the app store even work on Froyo? You might be able to make an old version of Maps work and use it simply as a multimedia player and Sat Nav, but other than that, it's junk......
Unless you fancy a challenge? You could potentially replace the motherboard with like a Raspberry Pi or something similar and make a totally custom piece of hardware. I know someone who did this with a similar unit and it works surprisingly well although he never got things like the CD player to work.
Hi all,
So I'm new to posting on forums , but ill give it a go. I grew up with lots of knowledge for software, electronics and mechanics. I've been looking into these android head units and I got a guy to purchase one for his car project, engine, trans, exhaust, lights, brakes full out build. Thought this would be a nice touch with a custom boot logo. Anyways, obviously 2gb of ram isn't THAT much for these headunits.
So as far as I can tell from reading around, they are soldered onto the boards, however.. I have a proper BGA reflow station and was thinking of checking out what chips they are using, finding the specs and finally ordering a better chip from a semiconductor catalog, I've seen single DDR3 chips go to 8gb a chip. Theoretically your just "upgrading" the ram, right?
Thinking of looking around to start on a cheap unity (just in case) or if anyone has some buggy units out there that they wanna test it out on sell for parts or whatever. If it works Ill send it back! FREE UPGRADES...JK.:laugh:
Any info on specs or any other knowledge is greatly appreciated!
Let me know what you guys think!
Hey did you end up finding a solution on upgrading your Head unit's RAM?
Solution is to buy a new unit. You will not go far with RAM upgrade without a CPU/OS/Storage upgrade even if it was possible to upgrade RAM. Also the cost won't justify the result, the complete units are so cheap already.
Just getting into the Android auto scene, and deciding what unit to go with.
Obviously the scene for the px5 units seems a lot more mature, so I'm tempted to go that way. I know everything I touch I end up rooting, so I'm wondering if I should pick up a px5 device instead.
Are people in the scene going with the newer px6's if we have the chance or should we pick up older units?
I have the same question... I have to replace an old (and hacked) PX3 unit (1 g ram is too little for me) But I don't know if buy a PX5 unit or PX6. At the moment I'm really confused. Pro & Cons?
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I would go PX5, PX5 has community support, sure the PX6 is gaining steam but wait.. I had one of the first PX6 units in NA and it was definitely a work in progress.. It took me a while to gain root and even when I did it was way to new to do much with.. I have it sitting on a shelf till there is more done. I have only been able to root it.. Tried many times to install Malasyk with no avail. I dont have the time with my career to dabble.. I miss doing that.
stokedcrf said:
Just getting into the Android auto scene, and deciding what unit to go with.
Obviously the scene for the px5 units seems a lot more mature, so I'm tempted to go that way. I know everything I touch I end up rooting, so I'm wondering if I should pick up a px5 device instead.
Are people in the scene going with the newer px6's if we have the chance or should we pick up older units?
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No question about it. The PX6 is heads and shoulders above the PX5. Faster chips, using less power and much better gpu. If you are looking to be thrifty about it, go with the less expensive Seicane or Doing. If you want the best Android unit go with Dasaita Max6. Cheers!
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No question about it. The PX6 is heads and shoulders above the PX5. Faster chips, using less power and much better gpu. If you are looking to be thrifty about it, go with the less expensive Seicane or Doing. If you want the best Android unit go with Dasaita Max6. Cheers!
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I went with the max6, got it all rooted and love it! Great unit! I mean, the resolution could use some work, as we all know. But other than that it's great!
I see no problems going with px6. Its just like phones. Yha gotta wait for the support. Or you must really need root..
Hardware mainboard has not changed. Per px3, expect same ported software bugs and hardware issues, with an upgraded processor. Might be more to do with SOM/SOC supply than anything else.
I have a Dasaita PX5 HU, can I buy a PX6 SOM and replace the one in my HU?
does it have to be Dasaita or any SOM is ok? where can i buy one?
thanks!