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For the first time Google, Android P's latest beta will be available on non pixel / Nexus devices including OnePlus 6, Essential PH-1, Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S, Sony Xperia XZ2, Nokia 7 Plus, Oppo R15 Pro, and Vivo X21.
I immediately jumped to get my 5T signed up, only to face disappointment.
Android P beta for OnePlus 5t was skipped and the same was available only for yet to launch OnePlus 6.
Lately I have got a feeling that OnePlus has shifted their interest from consumer focused company to buiness oriented company who are more concerned about thier new flagship and less concerned about thier previous users.
The unofficial treble support was provided to our device by the hardworking developers of OnePlus community but OnePlus did not make any efforts to provide the same.
The OnePlus community should send a strong message to the company that they should not make the old coustmers feel left out.
We should pass following message to OnePlus:-
a) Providing official treble support to 5 and 5t.
b) Providing the lastest Android version along with their new flagship phones.( Which will be possible if support for project treble is available).
c) Providing all the exlusive upcoming features to previous generation phones (5 & 5t) till the time hardware permits.
A) That is not going to happen. But Mokee ported Treble so hopefully an P Beta port will come to 5T at some point.
C) This is OnePlus we're talking about, I doubt they will.
I really don't think they care about the community anymore.
I thought OnePlus had quietly prepared the 5T for Treble by creating an empty Vendor partition in the background? It's not formatted yet, and OOS doesn't see it, but it's there?
I'm unhappy too, that they didn't use the 5T for their P beta, but if they provided the official base for Treble, then maybe we'll still see something from them or at least it will be easier for the XDA Devs...
Lossyx said:
A) That is not going to happen. But Mokee ported Treble so hopefully an P Beta port will come to 5T at some point.
C) This is OnePlus we're talking about, I doubt they will.
I really don't think they care about the community anymore.
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A) If we push.. all of us.. we might stand a chance.
C) Exactly
As I commented in the news.
Quote Google: "beta available TODAY from those OEMs".
The "today" tricked me into thinking that this would be my beloved 5t but Oneplus let Google speak about an even unannounced device just to get in that damn presentation.
In other words: Oneplus doesn't even care about their existing flagship the moment they know the rough release date for their next one. This is beyond everything I have ever seen in the smartphone business. At the same time advertising heavily the OP5t on Amazon to get one of the last ones.
Oneplus was never a community focused company they just said it so often that the people thought it would be so.
HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT!
As far as I can see this whole Situation; we will get a taste of Android P anyway. Either officially or non official.
Official: because there in fact is an unused Partition (unformatted)
Unofficial: because hobby dev peeps around the globe were able to make the oneplus 5t Support treble.. therefore custom Rom creators should be able to create Android P roms for it.
Are y'all really surprised that we wouldn't get a P beta? Lol
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Yes I'm in. Let's make a petition on change.org ?
Many people said of the oneplus 5t, it's the best against essencial phone... Better software, updates, design... But Essencial phone 1 have the beta xD
Now who is the best ??
I have a 5t
Android P require treble ?
I know this won't go down well, but did none of you do your homework on OnePlus before buying the 5t? OnePlus launch a new, replacement device every six months and concentrate on marketing and selling that; Every six months our new (to us) device gets moved to the back burner.
This is not a new strategy, and should not come as a surprise! Google how OnePlus 2 owners felt! I owned a 3t that was virtually obsolete four months later!
And every time this happens - every six months when a new device is launched - there is a thread on XDA to petition OnePlus about the unfairness of it all!
If this news is a surprise to anyone you should've been more aware of how the company operates.
Rant over.
Really dont't care for stock android p beta.
Much prefer for oxygen beta program with android P
Stock android is very poor and lack customization and feature option that oxygen offer.
If i want stock android experiance better solution is AOSP custom rom with plenty of feature and customization insteed of totaly naked stock android by Google IMO.
So we get OOS beta based on P later. (OP6 get first.)
I'm guessing we're still getting Treble support. There already is a /vendor partition created in one of the Beta updates iirc and they said: "Something exciting for you OnePlus 5/5T owners later this summer". So i'm guessing they're referring to Treble support.
CrEaTiiOn_187 said:
I'm guessing we're still getting Treble support. There already is a /vendor partition created in one of the Beta updates iirc and they said: "Something exciting for you OnePlus 5/5T owners later this summer". So i'm guessing they're referring to Treble support.
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Where is it written?
cutmylifein2 said:
Where is it written?
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Look at the screenshot. Last section of text.
CrEaTiiOn_187 said:
Look at the screenshot. Last section of text.
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Later this year and later this summer are different my friend.
Later this year means December and not before that.. but OnePlus 6 will get it immediately on launch..
Essential phone has got it already.. y not us is the question
cutmylifein2 said:
Later this year and later this summer are different my friend.
Later this year means December and not before that.. but OnePlus 6 will get it immediately on launch..
Essential phone has got it already.. y not us is the question
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Yh one does not always remember the exact words. P requires Treble we do not have Treble hence why we don't get it yet. If you really want it install MoKee ROM which enables Treble and wait for an Android P GSI.
Everyone should stop acting like treble is a hardware based thing.
The only reasons we did not get the beta is that Oneplus 1. is too lazy to deliver 2. wants to boost OP6 sales.
Treble is something completely software based and can be added at any given time (even without bricking the device).
I think the real reason we are complaining is (like the title says) that Oneplus is announcing stuff for a device that isn't even on sale yet.
It's like Google would have said "...and of course Pixel 3 is getting the beta from day one. We are already testing it internally and it is working great. In the meantime we are all very happy that you bought Pixel 2".
Not surprising from OnePlus. Unfortunately, they only seem to be concerned with what's the best way to make more money even if it involves abandoning their current users. This move, like all the moves they make, is about money. Doesn't matter if they ignore their current flagship device or users. Sad but true.
Imagine if official Android P is released in September 2018, so when do you think Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 will receive the Android P Update? How does it work out?
In 2 months after release.
PS: Do not be obsessed with updates as they are no longer big improvements these days and also they will have bugs (unstable) for some time. Just enjoy your phone with apps you care but not with OS Mostly you will buy new phone under 2 years then you get new OS out of box from it.
I am speaking out of my experience, and it will ruin your life by taking away some time.
what are the chances used Google pixel will support next version of Android Q. right now Google only has two phones to support it pixel 2, 3. so I think they will include pixel XL why you guys think
No, no major updates will be delivered to 1st Gen. Only security updates till October 2019, maybe a few months more.
Google can change their mind. Even lower and devices are easily able to run Android p
Just it never happened before, so chances are quite low. The support for major updates ended this October with Pie
But we can install third party roms
Kinda annoying on googles part.. I think buying a 1000+ dollar pixel phone should come with more than 2 years of updates... Should be 3 to 5!
It's not as if the hardware can't support it.. as the awesome XDA community will undoubtedly prove!
True but I have a feeling Google will add one more year of support for pixel 1 if not then there are wonderful roms to be side load . Though I have never did this I hope it's safe and will perform good
What you think people?
Technically speaking, the 2 years of updates that "Android One" promises will be fulfilled shortly in September, so neither Xiaomi nor Google are committed to launch Android Q for the Mi A1, which might take it out? Well, I don't know, the Mi A1 is still a great phone, but as I said before, the 2 years just end in September
Probably if we see the Android Q will be in Custom Roms that in my opinion offer you a better experience in every way compared to the Stock ROM
If we talk about 2 years then the phone was launched on 5 September and Android q comes comes on 3 September so, technically we should get
I would not get your hopes high. The 2 years of promised updates i dont believe they match with the initial release of the said OS, they are 2 years of updates they are released when Xiaomi releases them to the public. Pretty much the same as saying we can seriously expect 2 major android updates in the said period which we already got: A1 was released with Nougat (7.0) out of the box and in those 2 years we got Oreo (8.0) and Pie (9.0). And with new One devices in their portfolio they most likely will prioritize them over such our oldie A1. Anyway if we get 10, cool then. Otherwise we have to get it from custom roms such as Lineage as others like.
Hopefully it won't be buggy like Oreo or Pie and have no way to rollback easily.
barrack1 said:
Hopefully it won't be buggy like Oreo or Pie and have no way to rollback easily.
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Oreo 8.1 was probably the most stable version yet.
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If we talk about 2 years then the phone was launched on 5 September and Android q comes comes on 3 September so, technically we should get??
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That's what I've been thinking since I've got the phone!
I don't think of getting Android 10 on our Mi A1. Buy fortunately web could try It on custom roms. It's been 1 year I use Pixel Experience custom rom. Used stock Onlus for 1 month.
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Oreo 8.1 was probably the most stable version yet.
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When the Oreo 8.0 update was released, it was pulled due to bugs. Features like high impendance headphone support got broken. Oreo 8.1 update was also pulled because of data loss and safetynet not working. Then the Pie update also broke wifi, BT, 4G and got pulled.
Xiaomi doesn't have a good track record when it comes to major Android updates.
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If we talk about 2 years then the phone was launched on 5 September and Android q comes comes on 3 September so, technically we should get
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A1 a priori cannot get android 10. The support period has ended, there are only security patches. And in order to run android 10 on A1, you need to run beta testing - what to do cannot, because the beta test team has been disbanded. And updates with corrections and upgrades to the android version will no longer be. Only security patches will remain. And about Android 10 - you can forget, and not hope. Only custom roms.
But can we get in custom rom?
Franklindcosta78 said:
But can we get in custom rom?
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I don't see why not.
Yes come with custom roms
In custom ROMs only.
zurik said:
In custom ROMs only.
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As you're seeing now... We could get something almost pure if we switch our device to Treble... People is starting to build GSI images with Android 10 for Tissot.
Official 10 - NO.
However we still have decent dev and community so we are going to get Unofficial 10 for sure
Just curious about when android 10 roms will come some xiaomi devices got it
Next year confirmed
In Q1 , they just announced that on Mi community..
We will get Android 10 and MIUI 11
great to know that