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I'm planning on buying Xperia X1 as soon as possible, but some things bug me, and I can't get any answers anywhere. So...
1. Does it recognize micro SD HC cards? The 16 gig ones?
2. User interface speed? I've seen quite a few Xperia videos on Youtube, and Panels, rotation of Panels and launching a Panel seem pretty choppy... However, I've seen a video of Panels running on HTC Touch HD (video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k3SIcLKr0M) that's been posted on pocketnow.com and it seems to be running pretty smoothly there. Is it really that slow on Xperia (and given it has almost 100 MB RAM more than HD, it shouldn't), or have I just run into videos with non-retail models or something like that?
3. I'm new to Windows Mobile, so I gotta ask. When WM7 comes out (or that update to WM6 that should come out next year), can I upgrade my software?
4. How does homebrew run? And yeah, is every WM6 application (for instance, some homebrew applications originally developed for, let's say, Diamond) compatible with X1 (actually any other WM phone) or does it need to be ported?
5. Bugs? I've seen threads (on this board) titled "Shuts off when keyboard is slammed shut...", "Weird issue with Touch Pal", "NOT BOOTING?!? Is it broke HELP!"... I wouldn't normally ask, but there are a lot of threads with a title like this. These 3 are all on one page, for instance. If that would be an average of one board page...
Hmmm, can't think of anything else right now.
never used a WM but from what ive read around here....
1. Yes, as I understand it..the xperia can do up to 32GB... however only 16Gb exists currently...
2. I played with one today..it seemed decent... not that laggy
3. probably not officiallyfrom what i understand ... however it might be possible with a cooked rom depending on what actually WM7 contains and how compatitble with the X1 it being not multi touch and resistive and all that...but my best bet is not to get your hopes up in this area
4. no idea.
5. most these hardware bugs are isolated cases from what I understand of faulty hardware. so check your x1 thoroughly and get a good return policy just in case. Most people are satisfied and have no issues.
I am really thinking about getting the HTC HD2.
I have just seen some videos of fully running android 2.2 on the HD2 just wondering if this was possible and if so how easy is it.
I was also wondering the gaming capabilities.
Because i know that android, webos and iphones can play gameloft games like NOVA, Avatar, sims 3 so can the HD2?
Thanks!!!!
PS: The thought of having windows phone 6.5 (possible chance of windows phone 7) as well as android 2.2 on one phone blows my mind away, it really does!!!
Evan
It truely is an awesome phone... however, the andriod port is still very much a work in progress and difficult for the average user to set up. MS and HTC has clearly stated that the HD2 will not recieve a WP7 upgrade, so it would also have to be a user port.
Considering that it is unlikely a port of either andriod or WP7 will ever reach the functionality and stability of a device that ships with the OS, you should not get this phone based only on the possibilty of running multiple OS. If, on the other hand, you are very comfortable with winmo 6.5 then yes, the HD2 is a wonderful device.
As for gaming, I don't have any experience with gameloft games (since I don't like to pay for stuff) but there are TONS of great games that work perfectly well. With Morphgear and FPSEce, you have hundereds of classic games at your disposal (assuming you know where to get the ROMs)
some of the videos show the android 2.2 (Froyo) running really smoothly and loads of the functions working, including the app store which surely means you could get some of the android apps as well which would be cool.
I don't mind how well it works and if some bits don't work, just the fact that i could have both operating systems would be cool.
I also know about the windows phone 7 announcments but the chance of someone building a ROM for it are quite likely.
With the games i found on the Nokia n900 it was able to play a n64 emulator, can the HD2, so it can play Ocarina of Time etc. would be amazing on the HD2 and if the n900 can do it the HD2 definatley can.
But yer i have seen some quite nice games on windows phones ( and android and seeing as the chances are that you might be able to acess both app stores...)
I'm not aware of any N64 emulator in development for the HD2. Morphgear can do up to Snes and FPSEce does PSX very well. The Win95 emulator runs good for me as well so I can play a few classic PC games as well.
i personally think if this phone had a n64 emulator it would be one of the most amazing phones, the large range of games on the n64 is amazing if u look at the n900 it runs them quite slow but on the htc it would be super duper
am i allowed to put video links on this forum so i can show the video i found on android 2.2 running well on the HD2?
I'm sure I've seen it. This one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f891vm6vWHM
yes thats the one.
It just looks so nice and is so smooth and fast.
It just looks amazing!!!
But yer it does indeed look like a very nice device
does the psx, gba etc. emulators run at full speed (or faster than other devices) because i have seen some on other OS that go really slowly
I get a pretty steady 60fps when playing playstation games and I've never experienced the slightest slowdown in Morphgear either. Occasionally the Psx will drop a bit during some highly demanding situations but the worst I've gotten is a few seconds of about 30fps before it's back to normal. The games I've tested are Battle Arena, Coolboarders 2, MLB 2005, FF7, Driver 2. All work really nice.
Hi Just to add a bit of input here...
Yeah the HD2 is awesome.
About Android - the current Desire V5 port with latest zImage is 'almost' perfect.
Its as smooth and fast as a HTC Desire (compared side by side with a colleagues Desire).
Pretty much everything is working and the stability issues are almost fully gone (i'v had it running all day with no freezes or crashes).
I can download items from the market and they work perfectly - games included so yeah Android on the HD2 is really amazing.
Also don't be put off installing Android it's nowhere near as complicated as the previous poster makes out - there are a lot of useful guides in the Android threads - as long as you know how to drag and drop files your good to go. There's even a dual boot app that aloows you to choose which OS you boot into at start up.
Cheers
Paul
fpsece runs at full speed on HD2 - there's loads of videos on youtube if you want to check it out. This alone was one of the biggest reasons I got the H2
Personally I'm really happy with my HD2 because I have got two operating systems on one device...brilliant.
with Android..All the apps/games i've downloaded from the marketplace have worked so far.
At the moment I still use winmo for day to day use, but I boot android up when I want to view any flash website (android's got flash 10.1, winmo's not) or use any of the apps that are just on android like.. footmob or solo
If I broke my HD2 today, i'd still go out and buy another one instead of anything else that's available
Dual Booting sounds so awesome.
I really want to try thi out!
are there any other OS that can be used, cause that would be cool
e.g. WebOs, Maemo 5 etc.
Well this thread makes things so normal.
Comon both mentioned thing are so awesome. Playstation games on mobile phone? It wont get more awesome than this. Comon people it also have multitouch, G-sensor and more stuff (like vibration feedback).
Also the latest ANDROID runs so great. The speed is amazing. The stability is just great and almost everything works.
Comon guys be more enthusiam about it (oO,)
i just thought about dual booting and the amazing possibilities of this.
I know some people may have put some posts and showed there intrest in thise but what if you could dual boot more than 2 operating systems!
What if on one device you could have
1. Windows
2. Android
3. Maemo
4. Web OS
This could make one Legendary device and surely is possible on the HD2 if this happened or even if 3 os were managed it would be orgasmic.
OMG i would love it.
Just the possibilities AHHHH!
I am so excited!!!
does anyone know if that is possible??????
please answer because i am really excites
it can run win 95 remember...... that counts as an os right?
At the moment the only real "dual boot" is Linux/Andriod and WM. You can run Windows 95 on top of WinMo, but techically you're not booting into it, just emulating it. I've read Win 98 also works but it's very slow (havn't tried '98 personally). Andriod is comming along really well. I'm running Desire V5 at the moment, but contrary to what a previous poster mentioned, I experience quite a bit of lag/freezing (depending on what I'm doing). It may be that I need to flash a different ROM I'm sure the experience varies from user to user, but it's far from perfect for me atm. Don't get me wrong, much of it works very well and avioding the parts that are not quite complete helps. But when using Android on my wife's Evo4g and on my HD2 side by side, the difference is noticable (as would be expected). It's also not quite as simple as "drag & drop & run". It's not rocket science either but you should familarize yourself with flashing HSPL and Radio Roms as this may be necessary to get everything working properly.
I'm not aware of any port of WebOS or Maemo but since they run off the linux kernel it should be possible. I'm not sure if there would be enough demand however, to make it worth the time/effort requried to get it working.
i would pay for both of those ports i really would
you never know...
have you decided on the HD2 for certain then?
I once had a touch HD and loved it, I sold it for an Iphone 3gs.
I have got an opportunity to get an HD2 but need to know a few things.
How do these thing compare to the HD
How much faster on Sense UI is the HD2 over the HD ?
What is the camera/video like compared to the Touch HD ?
What 3D games are on the HD2 ?
what is the future of the HD2 with WM7 coming ?
THUDUK said:
any on a side note just for fun, why should I leave the iphone world ?
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..because it's evil?
Anyway, there's nothing, hardware wise, were the hd2 doesn't surpass the 3gs. Maybe excluding the internal memory.
Same goes design-wise, but that's more of a subjective opinion.
So, unless you cannot part from the feeling of being cuddled that should come with using an iphone all day long, then the switch is definitely a gain
Search the forum and you'll know EVERYTHING you wanna know just don't waste our time and bytes with pointless discussions.
You like it? Change it, you don't like it or you're switching back to iPhone? Well read my sign.
have edited my question, more suited to comparing HD to HD2
Well I'll try to be as much clear as I can.
You know the difference between the original Xbox and Xbox360? And between Playstation 2 and Playstation 3?
Well, the same difference is between HD and HD2: a whole new world. Faster, smoother and with a bright future for my taste.
Actually the HD2 is the most powerfull smartphone on the market and, as you can read, Android is going to be completely ported to that platform. Moreover in the future probably even WP7 will be ported extending life of this incredible machine.
So it's your choice: you had fun with your HD and you want to come back fighting and testing new ROMs? Well... dump the iPhone and go for the HD2.
Instead you like easy life, everything close to your fingers and the limitation of a closed operating system? Stay with your iPhone.
For my taste, I love to fight and test, so I love my HD2.
I hope to have been clear enough
THUDUK said:
I once had a touch HD and loved it, I sold it for an Iphone 3gs.
I have got an opportunity to get an HD2 but need to know a few things.
How do these thing compare to the HD
How much faster on Sense UI is the HD2 over the HD ?
What is the camera/video like compared to the Touch HD ?
What 3D games are on the HD2 ?
what is the future of the HD2 with WM7 coming ?
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Sense is much faster on the HD2 than the HD, though keep in mind it will not match the UI consistency of the iPhone, regardless of how much you fiddle with ROMs. Sometime's it'll be blazingly fast, sometimes it might hang for a bit.
3D games- you can check out stuff online, but there's not much of note, as large devs have all abandoned Windows Mobile. I have Need for Speed Undercover (works, but the WM version has much poorer graphics than the iPhone one), Xtrakt (slightly better graphics, but I don't think it's very fun), Ferrari GT Evolution (arcade-style graphics), and Doom II (which I suppose is 3D). The HD2 has a powerful graphics chip (just a bit slower than the 3GS'), but there's almost no software on WM that makes use of it. The only platform with decent 3D apps these days is the iPhone.
As for WP7, the HD2 is physically capable of running it, so I fully expect it to be ported over at some point here on XDA (never officially, though, because it doesn't have the requisite hardware buttons).
Basically, if you want a phone to be a phone straight out of the box, to do what it is supposed to do and to do it well then stick with an iPhone. If you want to have to mess about to get your phone to work properly, and even then have to put up with the inherent instability issues, then get an HD2
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Basically, if you want a phone to be a phone straight out of the box, to do what it is supposed to do and to do it well then stick with an iPhone. If you want to have to mess about to get your phone to work properly, and even then have to put up with the inherent instability issues, then get an HD2
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Haha yeah, that's basically it.
I would add, though, that the HD2's 4.3" screen is absolutely glorious. Unfortunately WM manages to put all that hardware to waste .
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Basically, if you want a phone to be a phone straight out of the box, to do what it is supposed to do and to do it well then stick with an iPhone. If you want to have to mess about to get your phone to work properly, and even then have to put up with the inherent instability issues, then get an HD2
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I think if you have an Iphone stick with iphone OS its more easy to use and good app support. Who ever has come from the Iphone 3gs to the hd2 and your happy your a really a geek!. I like iphone but its too plain i would get bored by the second month of having it.
hello everybody,
i know that there was an similar thread half a year ago, but i think that the time changed the knowlegde about it.
i know too, that the blackstone doesn't meet the requirements for WP7, because there are more than three buttons on it.
the rom developers would surely find a way to get this still working, wouldn't they?
thanks for reply,
apo
hope so it can be developed
but it would be like running window 7 with pentium 3
Come on guy. WM6.5 is laggy already on Blackstone, what do you think about WM7 hardware specs 1Ghz at least 'd give???
That WM6.5 seem to be laggy on the Blackstone is in my opinion already a myth. On my old Qtec2020 ran WM6.5 without (any) Problem and on my Blackstone is it like a dream.
Ok, the performance schould be laggy but for the kids here is WM7 like a new toy
Thanks here for all the devs which spend so much time for progging,
and thanks for all the wifes which spend so less time with their husbands...
SPOOKY
WM7 won't be able to run properly on the HD, mainly as you need a capacitive screen which the HD hasn't got. You may eventually get some parts of it working, but it would be like running Windows XP on the Spectrum. They just aren't compatible so would never function properly
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WM7 won't be able to run properly on the HD, mainly as you need a capacitive screen which the HD hasn't got. You may eventually get some parts of it working, but it would be like running Windows XP on the Spectrum. They just aren't compatible so would never function properly
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Well, if we could overclock HD, it would run without any trouble. Also HD needs proper 3d drivers.
Capacitive screen isn't really needed, most functions can be ported to work on resistive screens too. How about east countries where write recognition is a must?
What we really need, is a group of talented developers.
I was reading online and found a link to this: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android/features-and-specs
I know we have ubuntu ports and proof of concept, but how hard would it be to incorporate this new ubuntu feature into a rom? I have always been a big ubuntu fan and would like to run it 99% of the time if possible. I also note we dont have the dual core (can oc like hell though) or the hdmi out (fine with me i want it on the main screen) but are these two hurdles too big or can it be worked around? Thanks for your replies!
Try this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362715&highlight=ubuntu