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Hey everybody. I would like to start a global thread about Mugen 3000 battery REVIEWS. I would like to ask the moderators of this Forum to try and keep this thread tidy as in let's only keep the reviews here, and the general questions in other threads.
Mugen 3000 Review
Ok... I'll go first.
My two Mugens got here 2 days ago. I got a 3000 and a 1500.
Let's focus on the 3000.
- Back cover: GPS flap is a FAKE. No camera protection lens. Shiny, non-rubberized back (I like it better this way) with 4 little legs to keep it floating a bit above the surface (you hear the speaker better).
- Battery: double size, heavier than the standard.
THE REVIEW ITSELF WILL BE A SUMMARY OF PERFORMANCE INDICATORS AND USAGE TOTALS.
I will keep updating this post of mine as I evaluate the performance of this battery.
Keep in mind that I am a BATTERY FREAK and I test batteries to PERFECTION.
If you don't want to read through this long review, you can skip down to the "FAST FORWARD REVIEW" or to the "CONCLUSIONS". See post number 4 in this thread.
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CHARGE CYCLE 1 - FACTORY DEFAULT
2008-03-26
- Battery came loaded at 63%. After 2 days I'm stuck at 15%. I spoke about 20 minutes on the phone and used the GPS for about 15 minutes. I worked on it about 1 hour adding contacts and such.
- I installed Battery Status for a more correct measurement of the battery but I never saw it disagree with the measurement of the system (in the tray).
- As I said, I am now STUCK at 15%. It was 15% at 16:00 and now it's 23:00 and it's still 15%. Weird. I suppose that it's better than what others described (they needed to reset or remove the battery for the device to realize that there is still some juice in it). We'll see what the following days have to say about this.
2008-03-27
- Battery Status sucks. The program does NOT DETECT CORRECTLY the battery usage, nor does Windows. Today I woke up with my battery at 7%. I soft reseted. Same reading. I shut down Windows and started again. Same 7% reading. I removed battery (with Windows turned on) and put it back again. New reading: 15%. Now after 1 hour I'm at 9% and holding. Almost 3 days of usage with the factory battery. I spoke about 20 more minutes.
- BATTERY DEAD after 2.5 days. Activities total: ~40 minutes phone, ~15 minutes GPS, ~2 hours screen usage (writing / reading). No WiFi, No BlueTooth.
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CHARGE CYCLE 2 - FIRST FULL CHARGE
2008-03-28
- Full charge this night. 19:00 - 04:00, for a total of 9 hours, just to be sure I respected the instructions for the battery. But it was charged in about 3.5 hours, with about 1.5 hours more than the standard battery. So it charges its capacity pretty fast. Let's see how long it lasts. So far, I'm at 95%. No conversations yet, pretty much no usage. 5% gone in 10 hours, mostly stand by.
- After only 21 hours since the charge, I lost 24% of the battery. I did some text editing for about 30 minutes and about 17 minutes of talk time. I'm pretty disappointed by this relatively "standard" consumption.
2008-03-30
- Two more days passed. I am now at about 64 hours since the charge, so almost 3 days. I used the GPS for about 30 minutes yesterday and talked for about 10 more minutes in total (I don't talk a lot). But the battery is pretty damn low, 28%. I expect it to start dying tomorrow evening. I'll probably remove it and put it back again to see a correct reading.
2008-03-31
- Fourth day approaches its end and I'm stuck at 15%. It appears that my Mugen 3000 has something with this 15% value. It spends a lot of time at 15%. I read that you can stop the device from shutting down when the battery is almost dead by tweaking the registry. I will write the solution here if it proves to be valid. UPDATE: Now at the end of the day, I'm left with 4% juice. I hope there is more under the hood. Today I spoke for about 30 minutes and did no more than 10 minutes of text editing.
2008-04-01
- It's 02:16 (AM) and now it's 94 hours after the full charge. After 5 minutes of talk battery went to 1%. I was too curious about how much there really is left so I removed the battery and put it back. First reading was 44% but it decreased rather fast to 42%. I'll see how it is in the morning. UPDATE: morning, 35%. 10 minutes of talk time so far.
2008-04-02
- At the middle of this day, the Mugen 3000 still holds on. 15% battery after 5.5 days, 10 more minutes of talking. This funny 15% again... been holding already for a few good hours.
- Day end... almost. Battery at 12%. 5 more minutes of talking. So I'm close to 6 days. The Mugen is definitely kicking ass apparently.
2008-04-03
- Only 2% left of my battery now in the morning. Roughtly 6.3 days passed since the charge. I spoke for 20 more minutes.
- BATTERY DEAD after 6.5 days. Activities total: ~102 minutes phone, ~30 minutes GPS, ~40 minutes hours screen usage (writing / reading). No WiFi, No BlueTooth.
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CHARGE CYCLE 3 - SECOND FULL CHARGE
2008-04-05
- I full-changed it yesterday at about 09 in the AM. Now, after 30 hours (so ~1.3 days) I'm at 69% after 15 minutes of talking and 15 minutes of screen usage (reading / writing). Not such a great number really...
2008-04-06
- After 2.2 days I am at 56%. This is well within the reasonable 20% lost per day I got used with when using the standard battery. I only talked for 9 minutes today so far, and pretty much didn't use the phone for anything else. Since I didn't use the GPS, I find it the ok-ish level of the battery quite explainable. It's good to use the phone like this because I will make a review which is centered on exclusive Phone usage. And right now I'm happy with how things are.
2008-04-07
- Battery @ 31% after 3.2 days and 6 more minutes of talking. I'm satisfied with this so far and expect the battery to last for about 36 more hours until it first dies. This should take me to 5 days. We'll see if I reach the 5 days and how does Windows behave with the registry tweak I made last week. If it auto-shuts down again it sucks. It means I'll have to take the battery out and put it back again every 4 or 5 days, which sucks!
2008-04-08
- Guess what's the battery consumption today. 15%, of course. The famous 15%. It was 15% 12 hours ago, it's the same now. I expect it to start dying really soon though. I talked for 22 more minutes today so far and 4.2 days passed since the full charge. EVENING UPDATE: After 16 more minutes of talk I'm crushed at 7%. However, I will not remove the battery and put it back again to get a real reading. I will wait to see if the registry tweak works or not.
2008-04-09
- After exactly 5 days, I got 40% left. Today I spoke for 15 minutes so far. UPDATE: evening at 5.5 days, battery left: 28% after 11 more minutes of talk.
2008-04-10
- Exactly 6.1 days @ 11%. Pretty disappointing really, considering that I haven't used the GPS at all. But I talked for 51 more minutes, so that is probably what drove the battery down. UPDATE: At 6.5 days I got only 4% left after 10 more minutes of talking.
- BATTERY DEAD after 6.6 days. So this is how the Kaiser behaves as PHONE ONLY. Activities Total: ~155 minutes phone (so 2 hours and 35 minutes), ~20 minutes screen usage (writing / reading). No WiFi, No BlueTooth.
WILL CONTINUE NEXT WEEK WITH A GPS ONLY REVIEW, let's see how this baby performs on a long GPS run.
weekend (from fri 6pm to sun 9pm) - bluetooth on, one hour talking, email checked every 30 min -after 2 days i had 30%
regular day f(from 7am to 6 pm) - - 1 hour, playing games (1 hour), phone 1 hour , email every 30min - batery status 50%
Mugen 3000 Review - CONTINUED
FAST FORWARD REVIEW
CHARGE CYCLE 1 - FACTORY DEFAULT
2008-03-26 - So far I am very happy with the way the battery behaved, especially considering that I use it the first time, no charges yet.
2008-03-27 - 2.5 days is ok for a first-time use of the battery. I'm very pissed off that I can't have accurate battery readings from any program!
CHARGE CYCLE 2 - FIRST FULL CHARGE
2008-03-28 - Pretty disappointed because of fast consumption with relatively nothing done with the phone. It's still the first cycle so I have hope for better at the next cycle. Also, probably the readings from BatteryStatus aren't correct and the power is a bit higher than it says.
2008-03-30 - 28% after some long GPS usage and a bit of talking is reasonably well. I'm waiting for the second full charge to draw more conclusions. Also waiting to see the battery reading after I pull it out at 0% and put it back again.
2008-04-01 - This is not an April's Fool joke. I'm very happy with the Mugen 3000 so far. 4.5 days and it's still holding strong even after GPS and talking.
2008-04-03 - Battery dead after 6.5 days - a very good result considering that I used the GPS (30 minutes) and talked in a normal way (102 minutes), without restraining myself.
CHARGE CYCLE 3 - SECOND FULL CHARGE
2008-04-05 - 31% of gone in 30 hours at the second full charge. Not so great really, considering I haven't spoken so much.
2008-04-07 - Almost 3.5 days and I'm at 30%. Acceptable by any standards, especially considering that the battery is actually at more than 30% if I remove it and put it back again.
2008-04-10 - I expected more bang from the battery since I didn't use the GPS, but I talked quite a bit. The Windows Registry tweak is bull**** apparently, the device still autoshutdowns when reaching 0%. Even if the battery is really at 50%. Very very annoying!!!
2008-04-11 - I used the Kaiser in PHONE ONLY mode for this period. It lasted about 6 days and 16 hours
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CONCLUSIONS
THE GOOD:
- About 70% to 90% more juice than the standard battery. This baby really has a lot of energy to give and it will last you A LOT.
- Stated capacity (3000 mAh) is pretty much what you get. So Mugen didn't lie about this (too much). Considering that the standard battery is rated at 1350 and this one does not really last twice as much, it's probably less than 3000, but it's still a great performer.
THE BAD:
- Big size, heavy.
- Delivered back cover is a poor match to the phone.
THE TERRIBLE:
- There is NO WAY to read the battery accurately. Let me repeat that. THERE IS NO WAY TO READ THE BATTERY ACCURATELY. This SUCKS!!! The registry tweak I tried does NOT work and Windows simply shuts down when the battery reaches 0%, even though the battery is NOT dead. You need to REMOVE and put the battery back 2 to 4 times in order to really kill it. First time Windows reaches 0%, the battery is actually at 44%. You must TAKE the back cover OUT, then REMOVE the battery, then PUT IT BACK AGAIN and ONLY THEN you get the accurate reading. This is a very big downside of this battery and I suggest you think very well at this before you buy it.
ALL IN ALL:
- I'm happy ::- ). That's because I'm a battery freak and I like to have a very long lasting battery in any phone I own. So far, this is the best battery I had in my entire life in a phone. A battery that lasts almost 7 days after you talk for 2 hours and a half is GREAT. But I don't think I'll use it always. It's very very disturbing having to remove it every few days a couple of times. I think I'm going to keep it for long journeys and use it from time to time so that it doesn't degrade. I will probably use this one for a month than switch to the standard one for another month and so on.
Your way of testing the battery is not accurate because its not a consistant drain from 1 minute to the next. You should start with your OEM battery and use that as the benchmark. To do the test, first fully charge the OEM battery. Turn off the phone radio so you dont get incoming calls or SMS, turn on wifi, run a gps program to activate the GPS, turn on BT, play a video clip and set it on repeat, set the screen brightness to the max. The video clip playing on repeat will prevent the screen from turning off. Doing all this will create a constant and consistant drain on the battery. Now with everything is going, unplug the charger and start the timer. check on the battery level every 10 minutes and record the battery life until the phone shuts off. Once that's done, start the test with 3000mah battery. Doing the test this way will let you know at which point the battery meter becomes inaccurate for the 3000mah. When the test is done you can also calculate the exact battery capacity of the 3000mah. I've done a test like this for my 2800mah battery and it yield 2950mah when it was a week old then 2850mah when it's about 3 months old.
ok lads i havent confirmed yet but since last charging my x2 batt lasted 6 days!!!!! and the only thing i did difrently was chargin when phone was turned off.
the usage of the phone was as usual in the past 6 days. today im rechargin it again (turned off) and will post results of the batt juice drain in the following days
My Battery drained from 100% (it was fully charged, then I unplugged it and locked it) to 75% overnight.
What are some likely causes of this?
I noticed you have no signal. Constantly searching for a signal will drain the battery...
I've only had my N4 for a few days but the battery life has been good so far. A couple of brief observations...
1) On wifi only overnight (no SIM as I just got it and didn't have a micro yet) for 7+ hours. ZERO % drain...
2) On LTE (2-3 bars) for the past 3 hours. I left the phone and came back later. ZERO % drain...
Gmail is push, no GPS or BT. Only core apps running. I don't normally have anything in the back ground outside of lightflow...
Download GSam battery monitor
I noticed this also. I never had that much drain with my Galaxy Nexus.
I went out to lunch. Sent a few texts with google voice and looked up some random food articles on wiki for a few minutes. I was gone for 1-1.5 hours and now my battery is down to 47% from 75% this morning.
I'm going to download GSam and see what I get from there.
Edit: Installed GSam.
Attaching results from it.
the1onewolf said:
I went out to lunch. Sent a few texts with google voice and looked up some random food articles on wiki for a few minutes. I was gone for 1-1.5 hours and now my battery is down to 47% from 75% this morning.
I'm going to download GSam and see what I get from there.
Edit: Installed GSam.
Attaching results from it.
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Charge it fully tonight, unplug it in the morning, and then post your GSam results tomorrow night after a day of usage.
Mine has started loosing charge overnight too.
It won't turn of wifi when asleep either. Since I activated Google Now.
Mine lost 5%in 4hours overnight. Nothing running apart from mail and now notifications.
the1onewolf said:
My Battery drained from 100% (it was fully charged, then I unplugged it and locked it) to 75% overnight.
What are some likely causes of this?
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Your android OS usage is terribly high. That's my first suspect.
-Sent from my GS3 running CM10.-
My android OS usage is very high as well... sometimes higher than the screen. I'm gonna try turning off google now to see if that does anything but other than that I have no idea what would be causing that...
The screenshots show app usage as being 50%+.. It is probably a rogue app you have running in the background.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
As I said before, I believe it's some Google apps, I deleted a bunch of Google apps I don't use. My phone sleeps like a baby now. Overnight it only went down 2%.
Sent from my Nexus 4
I had the same issue for a couple of days. I would wake up to my phone only having 65% charge and the device would be rather warm. In my situation, I found that the charger was faulty. I noticed at times it would cause the phone to flicker back and forth from charging to in use. Lucky for me, I don't sleep well at night and I found the issue after my phone had been plugged in for 5 hours in the middle of the night. With that said, I also noticed the charger would make a high pitched hum/hiss. I swapped my charger out for my old Iphone 4 charger and I haven't had an issue.
Nearly a full day's results.
I left my phone charging from night until morning. I unplugged my phone sometime around 10-11am and I stepped out around 12:30.
It's 5:52 pm now.
I was out from around 12:30 to around 5ish. At around 5 my phone had 50-56% battery left. My friend's Iphone 5 had 75% left. Aside from my friend using his iphone as a GPS to navigate in the car (around 20 minutes) - we had roughly the same phone usage (by my estimate of course), we were at same locations and both of us are on the same network.
To be frank, I don't understand why my friend had more battery life than I did considering he was using gps. I do feel like there is something draining my phone battery.
My screen light settings are on automatic.
I've attached GSam and my list of applications.
From about 5 to now (5:52):
After a bit of surfing, installing 1 application to list my apps, emailing that app list to myself screenshotting the relevant data and emailing those screenshots to myself over wifi. I'm now down to 39%
the1onewolf said:
I left my phone charging from night until morning. I unplugged my phone sometime around 10-11am and I stepped out around 12:30.
It's 5:52 pm now.
I was out from around 12:30 to around 5ish. At around 5 my phone had 50-56% battery left. My friend's Iphone 5 had 75% left. Aside from my friend using his iphone as a GPS to navigate in the car (around 20 minutes) - we had roughly the same phone usage (by my estimate of course), we were at same locations and both of us are on the same network.
To be frank, I don't understand why my friend had more battery life than I did considering he was using gps. I do feel like there is something draining my phone battery.
My screen light settings are on automatic.
I've attached GSam and my list of applications.
From about 5 to now (5:52):
After a bit of surfing, installing 1 application to list my apps, emailing that app list to myself screenshotting the relevant data and emailing those screenshots to myself over wifi. I'm now down to 39%
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9:12
3 hours and 20 mins down the line.
I'm at 10% battery.
I got my GS4 yesterday and charged it to 100% last night for the first time. Today I'm at 62% battery with only 1h 15m screen time. Is there a break in period? This seems kind of bad to me. I've used that hour looking at Tumblr a little, reading the news with Firefox Beta a little. Some light texting. Four songs on Spotify over Bluetooth during my commute.
The first two days were disappointing for me...then by the fourth or fifth day the battery lasted like a champ.
I'm experiencing the same issue, 31% 13h 27 min on time, 3h 2 screen time
My battery came pre charged @ 60%
Charged it and used it for about 17 hours with 4 hours screen time and it still had like 30 - 40 %
But ... I'm charging my phone that was @40 % and it's taking over 4 hours to charge that 60% ....
I saw improved battery life after a few days on both of my S4 so I would assume yes it needs at least a few days to break in.
Swyped via my Samsung GALAXY S4 using xda premium
Yup, both mine took maybe 3 full charge-discharge cycles.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium
Happened yesterday. Froze as I was unlocking it. Hard reboot. Went from 24 to 36 hours with 4 to 5 yours of screen on time and about 1% loss in 2-3 hours on standby, to showing about 6 to 7 hours total usage time and a 3% drain every half hour in stand by.
Stock rooted JB, nothing special. Ideas? I'm not seeing anything jump out at me using battery specs or wakelock programs.
Update: Some testing and watching while at work revealed nothing strange. No wakelocks or anything. Thought maybe i was having an audioout_3 issue because its partial wakelock count was at the top of the list, but not astrinomical, and the phone is verified to be going into and staying in deep sleep.
But......at 82% battery the phone is telling me there's under 11 hours remaining. That's WAY off.......is it possible something shorted intetnally when iy froze on me yesterday?
Posted from my LG G2