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Alerts prevent xda from shutting down

Hi everyone,
I have a big problem with my xda:
Every alert orevents the phone from switching off the light and switching off at all. Only after I click on "close", everything works fine.
The big problem is, when an alert pops up at night, the light stays active til' I confirm the alert and so the battery gets empty.
Is there any idea what's causing this problem?
THX,
MatMike

Its a windows setting...
Yes, I found this too. You need to switch off pretty much all of the alerts in Windows. I found the 'low battery' warning the worst. My battery goes fairly low, then in the middle of the night an alert pops up telling me the battery is low, and the screen stays on until you turn it off, or more likely the battery goes totally flat -doh! Anyway you need to go to "Start", "Settings" "Personal" "Sounds and notifications" and go through all of that list in Notifications to stop them switching the screen on etc. Great set of defaults hey!lol

All programs close when screen goes black

Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??

Dipper60 said:
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power

Fallen Spartan said:
Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.

I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.

shuflie said:
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me

Dipper60 said:
Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.

I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.

I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.

Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??

Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.

shuflie said:
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....

Strange, doesn't do that on mine.

shuflie said:
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!

I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.

Fallen Spartan said:
I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.

Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/

Magster said:
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?

Screen Not Dimming With Auto Shut Off Disabled?

Please bear with me as this may be a dumb newbie question. I searched every post on the Imagio section here and at PPC and was unable to find an answer.
Got the Imagio for my wife and she's loving it (we had Storms previously- bad, bad mojo). She uses Groovefish to stream music and the stock dimmer setting will shut down the player after the time limit is reached. No problem, right? Changed the setting to stop this (never auto shut down on battery power).
Now, the screen will dim somewhat when left idle, but never shuts down all the way. It's dim but still active. She's been having to change the setting every time in order to not kill the battery.
Should the screen power down all the way while leaving the device active (like hitting the "shut off screen option" after holding the end button)? If not, is there a way to do this?
Thanks for any insight you may be able to provide. I've done nothing but Blackberries for years and this is my first real foray into WinMo.

Try to check the power settings. Go to the Settings Tab and push All settings at the bottom. From there go to System > Power > then click the Advanced tab. That should have settings to turn off the screen after 1 min or 30 seconds.

Thanks for the quick reply. I probably should have been a bit more clear.
It is in that menu that I have been manipulating the settings. There are two options for battery power. There is one to "turn off backlight" after x amount of time, the other is to "turn off device". With backlight set to 30 (or whatever) and device disabled, the screen never completely goes off.
It functions properly with "turn device off" enabled, but interrupts Groovefish when playing. This does not interfere with the native TF3D media player. While its not the end of the world if she ends up having to change that setting to use the program, it would be nice to be able to disable the screen with a partial shutdown (and extra battery drain when using that application).
Cheers!

Thats interesting, seems like its the program thats doing that. I have Opera, FM radio, email client, etc. running all day without it crashing. I have seen this before with Internet Explorer where i would leave it running connected to a website. then when i check back IE is gone and i have to start it again. By any chances is this a website or an installable app that you are using?

Groovefish is a streaming music client that is installed on the device
BTW, it is incredibly cool if you don't have it yet. Stream just about any song you want for free (legally).
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=88505

I use g-trigger to shake my phone to turn off the display works great! Just disable the shake to turn it back on.

I'll give it a shot and see if the application stays running. Many thanks!

Actually I think backlight off is happening when it "dims". You need the screen to go off, not just the backlight. Try using xdaShutdown to go into Lightsout mode and see if that works for you. The program can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544016
Skins in the same thread as well.

Keeps vibrating!!!

I turned off all vibration or feedback and yet my phone vibrates when I get incoming calls. I unchecked all the boxes trust me and it still vibrates? Is it just me or does anyone else get this? I simply don't want it to vibrate when i get incoming calls!!!
Any suggestions!
G

wmfreak said:
I turned off all vibration or feedback and yet my phone vibrates when I get incoming calls. I unchecked all the boxes trust me and it still vibrates? Is it just me or does anyone else get this? I simply don't want it to vibrate when i get incoming calls!!!
Any suggestions!
G
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Is the profile on vibrate? Try Menu > Settings > Sounds > Vibrate in General.

nope! it's on Normal with vibrate unchecked

Had the same issue and found this on Androidworld:
Try this:
Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications
Find the keyboard software you are using (for example "Android-Keyboard"), press "delete cache" and "delete data". This removes al personal settings of the keyboard.
After that I rebooted and vibration was turned off. Hopes it works!

Does this also remove all dictionary entries?
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

On a side note, I think I get times where the phone occasionally vibrates for no good reason - no apparent notification, no apparent change or anything.

freecom2 said:
On a side note, I think I get times where the phone occasionally vibrates for no good reason - no apparent notification, no apparent change or anything.
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Get exactly the same thing. No idea why as it's completely random and can be days between.

dijonemon said:
Get exactly the same thing. No idea why as it's completely random and can be days between.
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Good, at times I thought it was me going mad but I'm 100% sure it does this occasionally - but it could be absolutely anything, so I didn't even bother trying to find the cause.

I'm getting the same. 1 short followed by 3 short "pulses". The phone was in silent-mode (no vibrate), and I didn't get any calls og messages at the time.

[Q] Screen turns on when battery is fully charged

Hi everyone,
i had the same problem with my S2, but is there any way to keep the screen from turning on when the battery is fully charged? I understand it's a "feature" to make me unplug the charger, but it's really annoying when the screen turns on in the middle of the night. So far i've been placing the phone face down, so it won't wake me up, but that's not really the solution i'm looking for.

billiloumez said:
Hi everyone,
i had the same problem with my S2, but is there any way to keep the screen from turning on when the battery is fully charged? I understand it's a "feature" to make me unplug the charger, but it's really annoying when the screen turns on in the middle of the night. So far i've been placing the phone face down, so it won't wake me up, but that's not really the solution i'm looking for.
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It does turn back off in a few seconds (after the screen times out), right?
Honestly not sure how this little light can wake you up
In any case, did you try some of the apps for the older galaxies, like Battery Silencer?
Another suggestion would be to turn on for the night the Blocking Mode in settings , and configure it to suppress notifications.

billiloumez said:
Hi everyone,
i had the same problem with my S2, but is there any way to keep the screen from turning on when the battery is fully charged? I understand it's a "feature" to make me unplug the charger, but it's really annoying when the screen turns on in the middle of the night. So far i've been placing the phone face down, so it won't wake me up, but that's not really the solution i'm looking for.
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In developer options you need to turn off "always awake" or the phone "wakes up" when it has charged.
If you can't see developer options in settings / other, tap build number 7 times and it will appear

Thanks for the quick replies.
kreoXDA said:
It does turn back off in a few seconds (after the screen times out), right?
Honestly not sure how this little light can wake you up
In any case, did you try some of the apps for the older galaxies, like Battery Silencer?
Another suggestion would be to turn on for the night the Blocking Mode in settings , and configure it to suppress notifications.
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My sleep isn't very deep unfortunately... Yeah it dows turn back off after a few seconds, but it still wakes me up.
As far as I understood, those silencer apps and the blocking mode only supress the sound of the notification or do they also keep the screen from turning on?
floydart said:
In developer options you need to turn off "always awake" or the phone "wakes up" when it has charged.
If you can't see developer options in settings / other, tap build number 7 times and it will appear
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The "always awake" option is already unticked, but the screen still keeps turning on for the timout period

floydart said:
In developer options you need to turn off "always awake" or the phone "wakes up" when it has charged.
If you can't see developer options in settings / other, tap build number 7 times and it will appear
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I have that turned off on my phone, and it still wakes up for a few seconds when it's fully charged. Wakes up when I plug in the charger, too. Neither one is a big deal to me, though.

billiloumez said:
The "always awake" option is already unticked, but the screen still keeps turning on for the timout period
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Ahhh .... must be a "design feature" then
I leave my phone in the computer room overnight (don't use it as an alarm) so I've not noticed.