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I have a S10+ Exynos variant which has higher battery drainage than the phones I had before. I made tests and errors on all possibilities, even tried disabling all relevant features that may cause wakelocks, but I couldn't put my phone into deep sleep. With connections off at night, my battery lose 1% per hour. This result is better than phones without deep sleep, but worse than any other phone, so I'm not sure whether it's actually in deep sleep or not. Maybe the existing apps don't show correctly with the new CPU? Can anyone with Snapdragon variant check this?
Umbrellaus said:
Am I the only one has this issue? Or does it even count as an issue?
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Exynos or Snap? This could be the problem of exynos. I dont know if its anything related but the screenshots of exynos variants i have seen has high android system battery consumption.
justvalencia said:
Exynos or Snap? This could be the problem of exynos. I dont know if its anything related but the screenshots of exynos variants i have seen has high android system battery consumption.
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justvalencia said:
Exynos or Snap? This could be the problem of exynos. I dont know if its anything related but the screenshots of exynos variants i have seen has high android system battery consumption.
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Same here bro.
Exynos as well.
Its staggering we're still getting 5 or 6h SOT with this. Imagine the battery WITH actual deep sleep.
AB__CD said:
Same here bro.
Exynos as well.
Its staggering we're still getting 5 or 6h SOT with this. Imagine the battery WITH actual deep sleep.
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Can you check if android system or system idle is using too much of your battery and what percentage? Also how long have you had your phone?
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Can you check if android system or system idle is using too much of your battery and what percentage? Also how long have you had your phone?
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4 days. My battery yesterday was fantastic. 7h SOT. Today not so much. But it's still what I'd consider pretty good, and perhaps it's a testament to the sheer brute force of the S10 that it can get this amount of endurance even with the CPU never deep sleeping. I will look forward to when we can fix this.
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4 days. My battery yesterday was fantastic. 7h SOT. Today not so much. But it's still what I'd consider pretty good, and perhaps it's a testament to the sheer brute force of the S10 that it can get this amount of endurance even with the CPU never deep sleeping. I will look forward to when we can fix this.
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Hhhmm if this really is the problem. Do you think greenify will help?
Reboot and reset timer before go to sleep. Wake up in the next day and it turns out that the deep sleep is working for first 4 hours, then loose it again...
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Reboot and reset timer before go to sleep. Wake up in the next day and it turns out that the deep sleep is working for first 4 hours, then loose it again...
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I lost my patience and factory reset. Deep sleep is now working perfectly. Slept for 6h, 94% deep sleep. Went to bed with 96% wake up with 93.
For a reference my friend's Exynos S10+ also has a similar issue. A little better, around 30% deep sleep, but not nearly where it should be either.
AB__CD said:
I lost my patience and factory reset. Deep sleep is now working perfectly. Slept for 6h, 94% deep sleep. Went to bed with 96% wake up with 93.
For a reference my friend's Exynos S10+ also has a similar issue. A little better, around 30% deep sleep, but not nearly where it should be either.
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First two are my system after reset. Third is my friend's.
Yesterday I tried putting my phone into Airplane mode, disabling all connections and gestures... And it seems better. Now I've got 21 seconds deep sleep in almost 10 hour. LMAO
Umbrellaus said:
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I had same problem. My device 's G975F ( Exynos Chipset ). I had flashed stock firmware. But still not improve
Fixed by adding specific app to Sleeping Apps in device care. I think Samsung should really think about adding these abnormal apps to blacklist automatically.
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Fixed by adding specific app to Sleeping Apps in device care. I think Samsung should really think about adding these abnormal apps to blacklist automatically.
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Can you share those rogue apps? Also have you tried factory resseting your phone? Someone just posted above doing this and his phone goes to deep sleep properly.
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Can you share those rogue apps? Also have you tried factory resseting your phone? Someone just posted above doing this and his phone goes to deep sleep properly.
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No, I did not, and I don't recommand you to do so since apprantly is personal application related. But I do recommand to use Brevent, to stop apps running in the background with just two simple tap, helps you to identify the rogue apps.
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No, I did not, and I don't recommand you to do so since apprantly is personal application related. But I do recommand to use Brevent, to stop apps running in the background with just two simple tap, helps you to identify the rogue apps.
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I see. Will definetly try resseting my phone once i got it if it has problems with deep sleep as @ab_cd posted the result seems better.
At last I solved this. I just factory reset my phone and now it has deep sleep. I guess because I used Smart Switch and some setttings were transferred to the new phone improperly.
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At last I solved this. I just factory reset my phone and now it has deep sleep. I guess because I used Smart Switch and some setttings were transferred to the new phone improperly.
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can you try and observe your battery performance this time? Also would be nice if you can post your battery performance if there are any changes.
same deep sleep issue but solved.
samsung galaxy s10 plus. Battery drain with cpu not going to deep sleep issue.
i had the same issue.
what i did was - settings - general - reset all the 3 options.
1. network reset
2.accessibility reset
3. reset settings.
problem solved.
no need for factory reset.
then redid all settings as per my liking
aod on, wifi, bt, location on.
using almost all useful features and battery life is awesome.
pls do try and let know if the issue resolved or not.
exyn ver.
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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
I think it's because of the wifi. I too have experienced crazy idle drain compared to my G2 and it's really making me regret getting this phone. It seems like they just slapped the kitkat ROM together and didn't really care to test it very well because Lollipop is coming out so soon.
It's definitely draining at idle more than usual or should be, I agree. I don't think it is WiFi related though, or at least not enough to be the main problem. I could be wrong of course. I have also not experience any WiFi or Bluetooth issues whatsoever and I use a Moto 360 all day, every day.
I am currently on my 4th charge cycle since acquiring the 64GB BN model. It's been powered on for 7h 32m and I'm sitting at 78% with 1hr 18m SoT. That's with heavy usage and taking quite a bit of pictures & video during this mornings product demo presentations at work.
Hardly anything for me personally to complain about. I'm sure they will optimize it. I'm almost certain than Android L 5.0 will make this phone a true beast.
Time will tell.
are you leaving gps or high accuracy location settings on?
I have the same issue as the OP. My G3 lost very little battery life when idling. I've attempted shutting down email accounts, turning off location and selectively removing apps in hopes of determining the cause of the drain...without success. This could be a deal breaker if we don't get some type of root exploit soon.
Well this sucks. I was going to get the Turbo but now I'm going to wait and see what happens with this drain issue. Maybe 5.0 will fix it.
I have been using the same settings that I did on my G3, Auto brightness, Location OFF and Auto Sync. Glad I'm not the only one noticing it too, I think its all in the build of Kit Kat they put on this phone, hopefully L comes out soon.
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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
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How about you start by posting screenshots of your battery stats from System...Battery
I don't have any issues whatsoever.
Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well G3 could be out of box, not trying to argue wanted to understand what your problem was. If you press the graph you'll see more details on what is using batteries (awake vs screen on, cell signal etc) and more in Android System if you go into that screen.
Overall what your getting .. 1-2% is not a big deal to me and beauty of the massive battery is you don't have to worry about but if really wanted to you could improve by turning off stuff you don't need or even automating it.
FWIW I'm coming from a GS3 with a tiny battery but even that phone lasted 5 days idling with the right setting for my use case (cell radio off / WiFi on). With Turbo just disabled some apps I didn't need and don't even think about it any more. I do have complaints about the Turbo but battery is definitely not one of them.
I'm interested in this as well. I bought my turbo yesterday evening and it had a pretty good charge (>80%) out of the box. I played with it for much of the evening and copied ~8gb of data to the phone via wifi. When I went to bed battery was at 60%, when I woke up it was 46%. I noticed that my third biggest battery use is command center, so I disabled auto-location in that app. I'm hoping to have better results on my first full charge.
Yeah I agree, but its literally the same settings I ran of my G3. I think I'm just gonna return it between the weak wifi and cell signal, and the camera it's just not worth it if the battery life isn't better then my G3
I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to, and it is NOT WiFi.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Is there a hard date for the nexus?
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Andromjb said:
I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
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Very interested in what you come up with, thanks!
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Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Well you are limited with what you can do but I already gave you a start in my post, maybe you missed it. The only insight you will have without root (for tools like Better Battery Stats) is looking into all the info you can get out of Settings..Battery. There you can see wake locks vs screen on time and other stats like cell signal / wifi status etc. Then you can also dive into your biggest usage, for you it looks like it is Android System. They will list system services that are classified here. For example, you'll see the moto features are part of this. If you don't want to dig you can wait for Andromjb's updates
Overall I wouldn't base your decision to return the Turbo based on the battery -- base it on your other problems it sounds like you're having with wifi signal etc. That sounds like reason enough for a return. If you're ok with the larger size of the Nexus 6 then to me it's a no brainer to go with that instead of Droid Turbo since they are almost identical in terms of hardware.
For those that are getting battery drain, did you disable all of the verizon apps? There are some 20+ apps that are constantly running in the background and will drain your battery(even after i did a factory reset, these apps were sending data despite me never having opened them). Disable those, restart, then see if things change over the next cycle. I got 2d9hr31m and 4hr23 min of SOT(minimal usage) and was at 13%; this was on the first charge.
Could this drain be due to some of the sensors used for notifications. Doesn't the turbo have the feature where you stick your hand over it and it shows the notifications? If this is the case, wouldn't those sensors have to stay on?
Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Thats actually really interesting. I haven't been experiencing anything like that. Perhaps try doing a factory reset then disabling them again. That's the only thing I did differently. Perhaps it's just a bad device? I'm already at 2hrs screen time, heavy downloading(off line apps), and have been on battery for 1d8hr- still at 45%. Is there anything in the battery stats? Wake locks perhaps?
So I've had the Z3+ for a few weeks now and I have not been particularly impressed with the battery life. I was just curious to know what kind of longevity others are getting. I seem to average 4 hours sot with medium to light use. I am on .24 firmware and had two OTA updates as soon as I turned on the phone after opening the box. What are you guys seeing in terms of battery?
Edit: Should mention this is with intermittent wifi and data turned off. No apparent wakelocks either
. 4+ SOT seems to be around where I'm getting... some music or YouTube on work commute about 2+ hrs.. No games.. Mostly browsing...
Today so far..
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. 4+ SOT seems to be around where I'm getting... some music or YouTube on work commute about 2+ hrs.. No games.. Mostly browsing...
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Good to know, thanks. My gsam stat screen looks nearly identical to that. Perhaps the 5.1.1 update will bring some improvments
Hey,
I noticed this as well, on .24. However, my phone almost cooked itself, so was a little more worried about that. After doing a 'phone repair' in PC Companion (Bridge for Mac), the temperature dropper a LOT, and as an added bonus, the battery life seems a lot more stable. Recommend doing a clean install of .24, not OTAs.
Returned my z3+ because of the battery life. For a phone that large and heavy the battery sucks. My new z3c has almost double the screen time.
Yeah i get around 4hrs of screen time normal usage, music/games/web browsing/wifi etc.
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I'm jut curious if all of you guys having bad battery life results had any power save features turned on or if you were using any apps to turn off cpu cores.
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cerobles1 said:
I'm jut curious if all of you guys having bad battery life results had any power save features turned on or if you were using any apps to turn off cpu cores.
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I'm not using any power saving features or turning off cores. I didn't notice much of a difference between stamina mode or normal TBH. I take it you've been observing better results/ on-screen times?
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I'm jut curious if all of you guys having bad battery life results had any power save features turned on or if you were using any apps to turn off cpu cores.
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Holy **** this.
I was using no pwoersaving features and would end the day at 10-20% with moderate use.
Now with stamina mode turned on(whitelisting only commonly used apps), I end the day at 60% with moderate use.
Stamina mode is the greatest thing I have ever come across.
You guys that are getting really bad battery life should definitely look into using stamina mode more aggressively. I've white listed the apps I commonly use (which really aren't that many) while keeping brightness at a reasonable amount and I've gotten great battery life. 5 hours of SoT while on constant WiFi over here. I do use greenify whenever I remember, Nova launcher with app swipe gestures is awesome.
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My battery was emptied in about 10hours, moderate use (Stamina mode, not ultra). On top of that, it went into a boot loop when there was about 10% left.. And there was nothing that could stop the loop except for plugging in the charger and wait about 30 minutes for it to stop the loop or wait and let the battery get emptied. So today I did a factory reset and a repair through Sony PC companion - and the top third of the screen stopped reacting to touch completely. Just sent it in for service/repairs.. Hope to get some good news soon. I'm really starting to regret ever buying this phone...
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My battery was emptied in about 10hours, moderate use (Stamina mode, not ultra). On top of that, it went into a boot loop when there was about 10% left..
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There is a thread about the boot loop. I think they also found a fix for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/sony-xperia-z3-e6533-boot-loop-battery-9-t3160534
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I'm not using any power saving features or turning off cores. I didn't notice much of a difference between stamina mode or normal TBH. I take it you've been observing better results/ on-screen times?
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Holy **** this.
I was using no pwoersaving features and would end the day at 10-20% with moderate use.
Now with stamina mode turned on(whitelisting only commonly used apps), I end the day at 60% with moderate use.
Stamina mode is the greatest thing I have ever come across.
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Ok, so it seems that using power saving mode or stamina mode or whatever it's called does make a difference on battery life. On my Galaxy s5, although it has a Snapdragon 801, it is still a quadcore SoC, and turning off two of the cores makes a huge difference on the battery life.
So my point is if you would to turn off the A57 cores completely off I wonder how much battery would increase. Or even if you do not mind a bit of lag, 'cause I don't, maybe even go a step further and turn off one or two of the A53. I found an app on the playstore that allows me to turn off cores on my 801. I would like for someone to give it a shot and see if it makes a difference. It did not work on the Galaxy S6 and that's why I am still looking for a new phone.
Having a non-removable battery is definitely a deal breaker for me. But if the phone has the ability to go at least a good 16 hours without a charge, then that wouldn't be such a bad deal. That means if you unplug at 0500 you could still go all the way to 2100 before you would be forced to plug in. Just throwing my two cents out there for you guys. I wished someone would comeout with a phone as good as the Z3+ with the features of the Samsung S5. 5 to 5.3 in screen, water resistant, removable battery, micro sd card and a screen that's comparable to a Super AMOLED. LG G4's screen is very good but with a locked bootloader it kills the ohone for me.
Alright, sorry for the rant. Let me know if someone wants to try out the app I was talking about. And by the way, im not the developer of the app. Im just an user.
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I found an app on the playstore that allows me to turn off cores on my 801.
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What was this app called? Does it require root?
cerobles1 said:
Having a non-removable battery is definitely a deal breaker for me. But if the phone has the ability to go at least a good 16 hours without a charge, then that wouldn't be such a bad deal.
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With Stamina mode it breaks 16 easy.
I am currently at 41% battery, and my phone has been on for 24 hours. This is with light-moderate use.
I have yet to drain this phone to 0 yet, so I will see how long it can go.
I have the low battery stuff kicking in at 20%, so it should go even longer.
It didn't seem like extended stamina mode that lowered performance made any difference for me.
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What was this app called? Does it require root?
With Stamina mode it breaks 16 easy.
I am currently at 41% battery, and my phone has been on for 24 hours. This is with light-moderate use.
I have yet to drain this phone to 0 yet, so I will see how long it can go.
I have the low battery stuff kicking in at 20%, so it should go even longer.
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I forgot to drain to 0 on first use. Is that still recommended/required with the new devices? Is it too late to do it after a few charges? (one week old here)
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ciprianmp said:
I forgot to drain to 0 on first use. Is that still recommended/required with the new devices? Is it too late to do it after a few charges? (one week old here)
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I don't think it matters, that's a highly debated subject though so you'll hear both ways.
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Is better than Z3 or not?.
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Is better than Z3 or not?.
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Cannot be! Battery capacity is smaller and processor stronger...
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Hi,
Last year i bought a Galaxy S6 Dual sim (Duos) in Russia, and battery life was terrible, even when using it with only 1 sim, it would need recharging after 8 hours with normal use. Way worse than the single sim S6. I thought it was defective so i changed it, and then i got the same problem with the new one. I ended up changing it all together for a Nexus 6P.
I really miss dual sim functionality. So this year i bought again an S7 Edge dual sim (935FD with the Duos logo at the back) from Russia. I am seeing only 4 hours screen on time with low brightness. While most people in the forum report 7 hours without even trying.
The other thing that pissed me is that within 24hs the screen was already scratched. I only put it in my pocket with some coins and a key. The same pocket where the Nexus 6P was for a year without a single scratch.
I am wondering if there is a pattern here with Dual Sim versions, or with Russian phones in general? Is the battery lower in Dual Sim versions? Do they use cheaper materials? Or is the software worse? Or do i just have bad luck?
Cheers
Bad luck
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So useful that comment
Ontopic: I have dual version and I even get 6h SoT or I guess more if I try, usually I get like 4h and have battery for almost a day and a half, I'd say I'm a medium-heavy user playing a lot and using a lot of waze (so screen on with gps active) while using Bt music... so maybe there's something wrogn with ur devices
I don't use any extra optimization and my phone is fully stock
Hey Qberto, do you have 935FD? What country does the phone come from, do you know?
I purchased SM-G935FD Duos and i got 7 hours of SOT..
day to day usage with 75% brightness / sync (fb chat / viber / whatsapp /gmail /skype/fiver/) / Wifi mobile data 4G /always on screen and i got 6 hours SOT
miyuru4u said:
I purchased SM-G935FD Duos and i got 7 hours of SOT..
day to day usage with 75% brightness / sync (fb chat / viber / whatsapp /gmail /skype/fiver/) / Wifi mobile data 4G /always on screen and i got 6 hours SOT
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WTF i struggle to get more than 3 hours now. I wonder if the problem is the russian version? Or is it me with my heavy usage?
I have to say i use google maps a lot (gps) because i travel. Maybe this affects my battery life a lot? not sure.
I get 6hrs SOT at 20% battery left. This is the norm for me tested out for a few days then don't look at the battery life anymore. Seems pretty good for me.
Using FD version with 1 sim and 1 sd card.
Autobrightness on
Always on LTE and GPS always on
Auto sync on
Always On Display is On
Mainly use for some games, internet, messaging and chatting app
But yeah using lots of navigation app will lessen your battery life though I can't say how much.
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I get 6hrs SOT at 20% battery left. This is the norm for me tested out for a few days then don't look at the battery life anymore. Seems pretty good for me.
Using FD version with 1 sim and 1 sd card.
Autobrightness on
Always on LTE and GPS always on
Auto sync on
Always On Display is On
Mainly use for some games, internet, messaging and chatting app
But yeah using lots of navigation app will lessen your battery life though I can't say how much.
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Running which firmware?
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Honestly, everyone is just on the hype because of their new phone and the benchmark on battery others have set. Eventually, most just won't give a f#<k.
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Hey Qberto, do you have 935FD? What country does the phone come from, do you know?
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Yep that one, I don't know where it come from (if there's a way to know, tell me and I tell u xD).... and recently the battery life is decreasing, not so much but is notable, I blame google/samsung apps because appears an "Android System" always as third place, just below waze and screen, but anyway I get like 4.5h SoT... my phone is just charged but today I got 4h57m SoT with... like 30% battery left
I am running stock firmware G935FXXU1APD1. on My 935FD.
Today i got 1:20hs SOT with 50% battery left, and 5hs total time since unplugged. Using only 1 sim card, 3g (no 4g), medium brightness.
I really dont know why battery life is so bad compared to what others report. I use spotify a lot to listen to music (not streaming, only downloaded songs), Maybe this kills my battery?
Other than that i dont know why i struggle to finish the day with the phone. It is supposed to be the best battery out there
w/o root is so hard to find what things are eating ur battery but to start u can go to battery > battery usage (after a full charge and before u plug it again) to try to see something xD
look, for example this is my usage yesterday (and todays morning), is not usual usage because yesterday didn't go to work, but get a good SoT and gaming time anyways
I left this one here because the forum says is too large to upload xD, but the app usages are as attachment below
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guztavo1 said:
I am running stock firmware G935FXXU1APD1.
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Your problem is the firmware version. APD1 and up ruin battery life for everybody, not just you. Use Odin to downgrade to APC8 or lower. Warrantly will not be affected.
Cst79 said:
Your problem is the firmware version. APD1 and up ruin battery life for everybody, not just you. Use Odin to downgrade to APC8 or lower. Warrantly will not be affected.
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that's the one I'm using right now
This is my battery,I think that my battery drains very fast and I don't know what to do.
I use it normal I'm not playing or stuff like that but I normally get 9 to 10 hours of battery and I'm pretty sure is not good,what do you think?
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Guys, i tried resetting the whole phone to see if it helped. It didn't help at all.
I also did a test and realized that the phone eats 15% overnight without doing anything. Normally i heard it should be draining only 2% instead of 15%.
guztavo1 said:
Guys, i tried resetting the whole phone to see if it helped. It didn't help at all.
I also did a test and realized that the phone eats 15% overnight without doing anything. Normally i heard it should be draining only 2% instead of 15%.
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You need to change the stock firmware man, making a factory reset won't help. Flash APC8 base with ODIN
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I hate the idea of having to downgrade just to make a phone work normally. And the whole day i will have to spend reinstalling everything again....
And i am not even 100% sure that will fix the issue.
guztavo1 said:
I hate the idea of having to downgrade just to make a phone work normally. And the whole day i will have to spend reinstalling everything again....
And i am not even 100% sure that will fix the issue.
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It will 100% fix the issue. But it's up to you.
anibalhuneeus said:
Running which firmware?
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Was running APD1 during those testing.
The only working solution for now: flash Lollipop. It's not perfect but it heats and drains battery much less than Marshmallow.
I'm creating this thread so that we can discuss battery life issues and look for a solution.
There is a popular thread on this topic but it is marked as solved, and while the original poster's issue has been solved there are many others that remain.
For some people the issue was solved when rootkernel was updated to fix some bug. But that was a long time ago, and some bugs are obviously present even in the latest kernels rooted with the latest rootkernel versions. It's still unclear if the issue is present on non-rooted kernels.
I will create a poll, please consider answering it to help clear the issue.
By the way, has anyone encountered any issues on 5.1, or is it just a Marshmallow issue?
Partial solution: I installed OM5Z kernel and it has significantly improved battery life on Marshmallow.
While it's still much worse than what you would expect from a Sony compact, it's not awful anymore. The phone can go a day (no heavy usage) without charging now.
Stock or Xpower 4 ,rooted or not dosnt metter - i have a drain every night(8-9 h of sleep) about 5-7% in airplane mode.Try BBS and WD now but seems phone sleep good.Think i lost about 15-20% at 24 hours
On Xpower 4 lite as is...with andro kernel v36 same issue.And i dont have any other soft. Goggle sync and other garbage is off.
Dont now where is may be problem.
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Stock or Xpower 4 ,rooted or not dosnt metter - i have a drain every night(8-9 h of sleep) about 5-7% in airplane mode.Try BBS and WD now but seems phone sleep good.Think i lost about 15-20% at 24 hours
On Xpower 4 lite as is...with andro kernel v36 same issue.And i dont have any other soft. Goggle sync and other garbage is off.
Dont now where is may be problem.
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Try Xpower3, it looks like X4 got more problem. I'm running v3.0 Full(stock kernel), when I set it to airplane mode over night only drain 1~2% everytime but I've installed greenify donated and used xposed amplify.
For anyone reading this thread, are there any other things people can note about their setup?
Country? Carrier?
If you are having issues, what apps do you use? Do you have a microSD card and if so, what brand/model?
If you are not having issues, same question about apps and microSD card.
I have seen on my phone the higher Android OS CPU usage which is of course the black hole of power drain for many people. I still need to do more scientific testing of usaging or avoiding apps to see if anything is triggering the drain.
T-Mobile US customer here, typically on Wifi at work/home also with T-Mobile cellspot for signal strengh. Standard apps for messaging and social media including Snapchat (bad app for power usage) but avoiding Facebook for now. Google Now Launcher.
Stock firmware, rooted stock kernel, don't have issues
1) Z5 was incredibly hot out of the box
2) Wiping the system, rooting the kernel etc. fixed this but gave me awful battery life
3) Installing the modded kernel then fixed the battery life (found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/9-battery-drain-overnight-97-deep-sleep-t3382145)
I can stretch it to 3 days with light use, a day of heavy use can put me back 50-60%
I'm from the UK with the UK unbranded official ROM.
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Stock firmware, rooted stock kernel, don't have issues
3) Installing the modded kernel then fixed the battery life (found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/9-battery-drain-overnight-97-deep-sleep-t3382145)
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You are talking about exactly this link on kernel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67545422&postcount=159
Btw this kernel in Xpower 3.0 and today I try this on my.
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You are talking about exactly this link on kernel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67545422&postcount=159
Btw this kernel in Xpower 3.0 and today I try this on my.
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Yes this is the kernel. :good: Make sure you have update .224 though.
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Yes this is the kernel. :good: Make sure you have update .224 though.
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TheEndHK said:
Try Xpower3, it looks like X4 got more problem. I'm running v3.0 Full(stock kernel), when I set it to airplane mode over night only drain 1~2% everytime but I've installed greenify donated and used xposed amplify.
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Tried to night and still no luck.Drain 5 % in airplain mode.
Some new info about drain here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-...tion-stock-t3451725/post68473884#post68473884
X-ITER said:
Tried to night and still no luck.Drain 5 % in airplain mode.
Some new info about drain here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-...tion-stock-t3451725/post68473884#post68473884
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I'll suggest also try other usb cable and power adapter. If they start to have problem, the battery will give you a wrong full charged report.
TheEndHK said:
the battery will give you a wrong full charged report.
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Where i can see or find this report?
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Where i can see or find this report?
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I meant fake battery statistic .... If your cable or adapter starting to have problem, it told you 100% but actually only 50% so dropping real fast.
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I meant fake battery statistic .... If your cable or adapter starting to have problem, it told you 100% but actually only 50% so dropping real fast.
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Ок i try.
I found software RealBattery and CaliBattery.Try this too.
I have also recently upgraded from Z3C to Z5C with stock Singapore Customized FW, but I live in France (ordered from eBay).
Weird thing is that during the day it loses may be 30-40% in 6 hours, but every evening after I come back from work, phone overheats with battery up to 50 degrees and drains 30% in 1 hour...
In stats, it shows Android OS using most of battery and keep awake being 80% of up time...
I had same issue on Z3C with last 6.0.1 MM.
During the night I usually lose 5-10%.
Any advice?
giosal said:
I have also recently upgraded from Z3C to Z5C with stock Singapore Customized FW, but I live in France (ordered from eBay).
Weird thing is that during the day it loses may be 30-40% in 6 hours, but every evening after I come back from work, phone overheats with battery up to 50 degrees and drains 30% in 1 hour...
In stats, it shows Android OS using most of battery and keep awake being 80% of up time...
I had same issue on Z3C with last 6.0.1 MM.
During the night I usually lose 5-10%.
Any advice?
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In other thread suggested to flash HK FW and reported to fix battery drain. Remember to wipe all data during flash and reset the phone.
TheEndHK said:
In other thread suggested to flash HK FW and reported to fix battery drain. Remember to wipe all data during flash and reset the phone.
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The problem is that I have E5803, and not E5823...
Will the HK FW work on it? It's only for E5823 I think (according to Xperifirm)
Also, what exactly should I do - I should wipe everything when installing using Flashtool right?
Should I also do reset after installation?
Can I restore my backup or you would recommend to make a clean install of the apps as well?
I don't want to lose data of apps.
giosal; said:
Can I restore my backup or you would recommend to make a clean install of the apps as well?
I don't want to lose data of apps.
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Before reflash or do someting try to use clean frimware without your usually apps.Do factory reset.Dont forget to make backup of your current state phone i f you need.
I think problem exactly in your apps.
I have issue with night drain and i try HK frimware on my 5823 and i dont feel any difference.
jufofu said:
Partial solution: I installed OM5Z kernel and it has significantly improved battery life on Marshmallow.
While it's still much worse than what you would expect from a Sony compact, it's not awful anymore. The phone can go a day (no heavy usage) without charging now.
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Okay, now that I have gathered some statistics I take back my words about significantly improved battery life. It's slightly improved and still awful.
I'm using stock fw, but have deleted about 60-70 apps I don't have any use for. I also use OM5Z kernel. I experience no drain what I know of, usually have about 3 days with normal use.
The only issue I experienced is that the phone totally crashed a couple of times. I can't wake it up at all, and it doesn't take any charge (LED doesn't lid up). I have to use the reset button to reboot it. But so far, it's a small issue
--Mike
What's new:
Improved camera UI
That's it. No other improvements. The update is 150mb in size, so i am hoping there would be behind the scenes bug fixing. Especially hoping it would fix the wifi sleep battery drain issue. Will update this thread in a couple of days on my findings.
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Update: I can confirm that this update does not fix the wifi/sleep issue. Went to bed at 10pm and checked the tablet at 6am. Lost 12% battery. Battery Usage tells me the tablet was awake the whole time and did not go to sleep mode. This is really bad compared to my S8+ which only loses 3% battery overnight.
Still the fix would be to switch off wifi before going to bed and the tablet will only lose 1 to 2% of its battery.
This one lost 5% over sleep but that's still a lot. I'm testing an old Asus Nexus 7 for the hell of it (it hadn't been turned on for 4 years and literally two days ago updated it to 5.1 and just left it to see if the battery would hold). The Nexus 7 is beating the S3 so far. Also have an iPad to compare and that thing can stay in standby for a month solid.
I'm just going to turn it off when not in use, waiting a minute for bootup (plus fingerprint so no having to fiddle with pw screen) isn't a huge deal to me.
Yeah it's annoying that Samsung can't get it right, even after more than a year with several devices running on the SD820 platform. I just don't get how my pixel, with nearly the same hardware, is so much smoother and more battery efficient. /rant
Anyways, I just have WiFi set to turn off when the screen is off. I only charge it once every 4-5 days with light to moderate usage
Idiots are probably not aware of the issue. WTF is there no theme store?? Getting tired of this SAMMY BS.
Download LInk?
Does anyone have a link so I can Download the latest update? Or do I need to remove root and then update in the traditional way? (I would prefer to have a file I can flash in Odin)
your help is appreciated.
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bimmerboii said:
Update: I can confirm that this update does not fix the wifi/sleep issue. Went to bed at 10pm and checked the tablet at 6am. Lost 12% battery. Battery Usage tells me the tablet was awake the whole time and did not go to sleep mode. This is really bad compared to my S8+ which only loses 3% battery overnight.
Still the fix would be to switch off wifi before going to bed and the tablet will only lose 1 to 2% of its battery.
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FYI - I have a case I keep my tablet in. WHile in the case, I didn't use the tablet for two weeks. Busy having fun with new S8+) anyway, I still have over 50% of my battery remaining. When I open the case, the screen comes on very quickly. It appears that being in the case has helped to put this thing to sleep and I guess that puts battery drain down to about that 2% to 3% your S8+ gets.
Geekser said:
Does anyone have a link so I can Download the latest update? Or do I need to remove root and then update in the traditional way? (I would prefer to have a file I can flash in Odin)
your help is appreciated.
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FYI - I have a case I keep my tablet in. WHile in the case, I didn't use the tablet for two weeks. Busy having fun with new S8+) anyway, I still have over 50% of my battery remaining. When I open the case, the screen comes on very quickly. It appears that being in the case has helped to put this thing to sleep and I guess that puts battery drain down to about that 2% to 3% your S8+ gets.
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Remove root and go back to stock if you want ota update.
You should be able to find the firmware on sammobile.com.
I also have a case on mine with the screen on off function but still the tablet doesn't go to sleep.
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bimmerboii said:
Remove root and go back to stock if you want ota update.
You should be able to find the firmware on sammobile.com.
I also have a case on mine with the screen on off function but still the tablet doesn't go to sleep.
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Sammobile doesnt have the firmware for XAR which I beleive is the US. I saw a link previously for the old firmware somewhere to samsung firmware - but when I search that site, I can't find the new update. I will try other options.
thanks
Everyone seems to be using the tablet for light duty thus far.
I'm going to chime in and add that I'll be using it for CPU intensive apps. Re: SoundCamp, FL Studio, and other heavy tasks. Don't think this will live up to "12 hour run time" that everyone's oohing and awwing over XD
I wound up getting the battery to about 13% and turned on "battery saver" for the day. It was supposed to last 23 hours. When the work day was over (about 16 hours by the time I got home) it was off. Figured it was worth testing time to complete-off from full charge. No idea when it actually turned off, but the system isn't optimized for this so-called battery saver mode either. Every other device I've owned with this feature has had accurate results (sometimes more), but not here.
Thinking of returning mine coz of the wifi bug and going back to my s2.
undertaker2k14 said:
Thinking of returning mine coz of the wifi bug and going back to my s2.
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What kind of bug? Lost connection? I have this issue on mine s3
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The battery drain bug thats been referred to in many places here. Not sure if and when it will be fixed.
The older S2 doesn't have this problem and it seems like the Exynos 5433 with it's 8 standard ARM cores as opposed to Qualcomm's custom 4 cores in 820 (though theoretically faster) handle Touchwiz better with less UI jankiness since both run Nougat 7.0 now.
There is a a ADQC firmware out for a lot of countries including UK, trying that one to see if the Wifi bug is fixed. Why do they delay the US version so much is beyond me? Same story with the S2 firmwares, went to the Germany/Singapore version since US receives firmware updates last, even though there are no carrier delays for the Wifi only versions.
This firmware resolves the issue: http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=1D0F4E90377111E7963AFA163EE8F90B ! Confirmed 0% drain over 3 hours on standby would have def lost at least 2-3 % by now.
Look for BTU firmware T820XXU1AQDC if the link expires.
Does anyone not charge their tab overnight? That negates all of this *****ing. Then it is at 100% when you wake up. Win win for all.
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Does anyone not charge their tab overnight? That negates all of this *****ing. Then it is at 100% when you wake up. Win win for all.
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I charge on the weekends. I use the tab to take notes for work during the week.
Currently, I have tasker turn off wifi when the screen is off. I have updated, so I'll try without tasker.
I take my earlier comment back, aqdc still has the wifi drain bug, very annoying. Also, the new ipad pro makes this look like a joke. We need an 8895 in this tab not useless qualcomm chips.
undertaker2k14 said:
The battery drain bug thats been referred to in many places here. Not sure if and when it will be fixed.
The older S2 doesn't have this problem and it seems like the Exynos 5433 with it's 8 standard ARM cores as opposed to Qualcomm's custom 4 cores in 820 (though theoretically faster) handle Touchwiz better with less UI jankiness since both run Nougat 7.0 now.
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I have a EU LTE Tab S3. It's connected to Wi-Fi continually when I'm home. I lose 2-3% when the tablet's sleeping overnight. I didn't know there was a Wi-Fi bug until I saw this thread. But I do have a Netgear R9000 which is a beast of a router. Is there any commonality to the Wi-Fi drain problem? I don't remember which Samsung phone it was but one had a big problem with D-Link routers specifically.
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Does anyone not charge their tab overnight? That negates all of this *****ing. Then it is at 100% when you wake up. Win win for all.
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So it's now referred to as "*****ing" when people are noticing a very clear obvious issue with a device and would like to see it fixed. Amazing. Maybe for the S4 they can just not put speakers on it and we can all be considered "*****ing" because we should all just use headphones?
Anyway......completely ridiculous that there are constantly issues with these things. I TRY to switch away from iPad constantly and there is just not an Android tablet on the market that is in the same ballpark and at this point I doubt there ever will be. I've lost 8% of battery life today already and the thing has been on for like 2 and a half hours, and of that time I've probably spent like 5 minutes actually using it. The rest of the time it's just been sitting there, screen off. Pathetic. An iPad would still be at 100%, MAYBE 99%.
Please report the wifi issue here to pressure samsung for a fix :
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Tablets/tab-S3-wifi-power-drain-bug/m-p/123511#M5427