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Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
Looks good to me.
Al Gore said:
Looks good to me.
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Same here
That's not even close to bad. The two others uses IPS displays and the Z does not.
pintness said:
Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
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Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
Al Gore said:
Looks good to me.
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pongnamu said:
Same here
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agreed
samxool said:
Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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to be fair, not every one has the same expectations and preferences so if you really want good viewing angles this is not the phone for you or if you feel you miss out when other phones have better viewing angles, this is not the phone for you. in the end of the day Sony could have prevented this by using a better panel.
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The screen quality looks amazing! Viewing angels are alot better than expected too.
The Sony Xperia Z looks much sleeker and has a better design compared to the other 2. The Iphone looks tiny.
Wow... Are ppl this mindless? It was proven that the screens are all the same. How can some look bad and some great? Simple. They can't.
What is happening is that some ppl are just shouting about how great the scrrn is, while ignoring a huge flaw.
I don't understand why ppl don't recognize this and speak up? Tell Sony you arent happy so they can change it in the next version.
Why are ppl settling for less?
In before people accuse me of being a troll...
Maedhros said:
Wow... Are ppl this mindless? It was proven that the screens are all the same. How can some look bad and some great? Simple. They can't.
What is happening is that some ppl are just shouting about how great the scrrn is, while ignoring a huge flaw.
I don't understand why ppl don't recognize this and speak up? Tell Sony you arent happy so they can change it in the next version.
Why are ppl settling for less?
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This is sad. Why's it affecting you more than people who will and already have shelled out money for it?
omersak said:
This is sad. Why's it affecting you more than people who will and already have shelled out money for it?
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Because... The better phones Sony Makes, the better for eveeyone. Simple capitalism. I have a vested interest in pointing out flaws in the device, just as I am critical of several things on otther device
Such as DDR2 Ram on the HTC one instead of DDR3. Not to mention low GL bench scores and the the camera not necessarily living up to the hype.
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Because... The better phones Sony Makes, the better for eveeyone. Simple capitalism. I have a vested interest in pointing out flaws in the device, just as I am critical of several things on otther device
Such as DDR2 Ram on the HTC one instead of DDR3. Not to mention low GL bench scores and the the camera not necessarily living up to the hype.
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So, when the S4 is announced with exynos 5, i take it you'll focus 100% to the HTC One forms and repeatedly post about it being outdated and obsolete - right? You know, like exactly you did with the Xperia Z.
Please can you take a photo with a better camera? Thanks
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Whats the issue, 99% of the time you will look head one, which your photo proves Sony is as good as the other phones.
Is this a troll thread?
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Nobody looks on their smartphone in the exact same angle 99% of the time. Do you hold your smartphone straight before your eyes when you look at it? Because that's the only angle the colors are shown correct. The slightest tilt will result in distortion and this ist f*ing annoying.
I have my phone lying on the table while reading news or watching videos, imagine that. Looks ****ty.
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That's not even close to bad. The two others uses IPS displays and the Z does not.
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Why would I care what kind of screen Sony uses on the XPZ, I just want an AWESOME screen. This is cleary not awesome.
Don't forget it's a 600€-phone, you should expect a high-end-display on this one.
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Please can you take a photo with a better camera? Thanks
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The camera's great, I just had not-ideal settings. But given I wanted to show the color distortion, I guess the problem is pretty obvious. What do you want to see?
pintness said:
Hi guys and gals,
got my Xperia Z today and am really disappointed with the display viewing angles. Just wanted to share a few shots with you for comparison.
(Don't hate me for the iDevice, it's a business phone, didn't have a choice :angel: )
The bad thing is: you really notice the color distortion at normal use. While looking up front, everything's fine. But tilt in any direction and you immediately see the problem. Didn't expect the 4x display to be so much better, minus the resolution. Maybe I just have caught a "bad" Xperia, but... meh. Guess I will return it and wait for the X-Phone or so.
I read on a german site that users are reporting a great variety in display quality, this is really a bummer on a flagship smartphone.
regards,
pint
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Yuck that is pretty bad.
I should have mine soon, guess I'll see how I get on before the return period runs out..
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Nobody looks on their smartphone in the exact same angle 99% of the time. Do you hold your smartphone straight before your eyes when you look at it? Because that's the only angle the colors are shown correct. The slightest tilt will result in distortion and this ist f*ing annoying.
I have my phone lying on the table while reading news or watching videos, imagine that. Looks ****ty.
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Not true, sorry.
Here are my shots of Z in the store:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=205054&p=106&g=Go
The fourth photo shows the phone at an angle (even this is unnatural though) and everything looks great.
Mind it's a shop where strong lights reflect on the Z's surface.
Al Gore said:
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can u post img of ur xZ for viewing andgle?
doministry said:
Not true, sorry.
Here are my shots of Z in the store:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=205054&p=106&g=Go
The fourth photo shows the phone at an angle (even this is unnatural though) and everything looks great.
Mind it's a shop where strong lights reflect on the Z's surface.
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Compare the icon colours of picture 2+3 to the colors on picture 1. Obvious.
Since there are no colours on picture 4, take a look at the software button bar and compare the lightness to that on on picture 1. Pretty much different, I don't think it looks too great.
edit: also compare the software button bar on pic 2+3 to pic 1, it's almost as "nice" as the display on my Archos A70.
Wow XZ screen looks really wonderful at first pic, which the same viewing angle I use 99% of the time
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Japanese vs European screen
Japanese is better (disregarding grey navigation bars on Euro models)
Let's collect all reviews here. Will be updating as I find (/you post) new reviews.
Reviews:
CNet
Android Authority
Verge
Android Central
Android Central Updated
Engadget
GSM Arena
Phone Arena
Droid Life
Ars Technicia
Android Police
Pocket Now
Mashable
Slash Gear
Tech Radar
Sunlight Visibility:
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YOUTUBE:
MKBHD Review - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTE337ITnAc&feature=youtu.be
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A very good review from iverge!!
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/4/5778556/lg-g3-review
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WHY???
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-review
After just seven days it's clear to us that the G3 is at least a good phone, and LG's best yet. And as we count down to the global launch, we'll soon see whether it can become a great one.
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Nobody can beat engadget review. Best review ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/05/lg-g3-review/
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3-review-1086.php
Disappointing display quality, battery and performance.
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Disappointing display quality, battery and performance.
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Display? It can't be worse than G2's, it's next gen WQHD AH-IPS matrix
Batter? Disappointing? Where? You need 18hours per day of surfing or what? 7hrs is pretty enough
Are you looking at numbers (resolution) only? Look at the blacks, look at the contrast... it's bad. Plus it doesn't allow full brightness when phone gets warm.
And yes 6h of web surfing at 50% brightness sucks, Z2 or G2 give twice of that, around 12h.
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Are you looking at numbers (resolution) only? Look at the blacks, look at the contrast... it's bad. Plus it doesn't allow full brightness when phone gets warm.
And yes 6h of web surfing at 50% brightness sucks, Z2 or G2 give twice of that, around 12h.
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blacks are better on the G3, both at 50% and 100%
whites aren't as good though
*Emix* said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g3-review-1086.php
Disappointing display quality, battery and performance.
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Great review. Really in depth and raises concerns about going with this phone. They should've stuck with FullHD...
Kawaisa said:
blacks are better on the G3, both at 50% and 100%
whites aren't as good though
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You interpret it wrong from gsmarena. Lower value means deeper black. G3 Black level is worse than G2
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Are you looking at numbers (resolution) only? Look at the blacks, look at the contrast... it's bad. Plus it doesn't allow full brightness when phone gets warm.
And yes 6h of web surfing at 50% brightness sucks, Z2 or G2 give twice of that, around 12h.
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Kawaisa said:
blacks are better on the G3, both at 50% and 100%
whites aren't as good though
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Great review. Really in depth and raises concerns about going with this phone. They should've stuck with FullHD...
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dragon135 said:
You interpret it wrong from gsmarena. Lower value means deeper black. G3 Black level is worse than G2
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This is clearly a pathetic review. They say everything against it on the particular page and on the last page they say everything positive. And those smart people made the review with the preproduction unit too! A phone with a tallk time of 25hours can never have 6:30 Minutes of web browsing. Also, what disappointment in benchamarks? Seriously? Then Nexus 5 is the worst phone ever on performance..
Best is go and have a look at it yourself. Samsung paid them sooo much just to get the name down.. They sold more than 100000 Units in the first 5 days which was 3 times more than the S5 so obviously Samsung is jealous. I have written a mail to them asking about each and every aspect. Hope they reply soon.:good:
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This is clearly a pathetic review. They say everything against it on the particular page and on the last page they say everything positive. And those smart people made the review with the preproduction unit too! A phone with a tallk time of 25hours can never have 6:30 Minutes of web browsing. Also, what disappointment in benchamarks? Seriously? Then Nexus 5 is the worst phone ever on performance..
Best is go and have a look at it yourself. Samsung paid them sooo much just to get the name down.. They sold more than 100000 Units in the first 5 days which was 3 times more than the S5 so obviously Samsung is jealous. I have written a mail to them asking about each and every aspect. Hope they reply soon.:good:
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Well the numbers and measurement don't lie. We already know the benchmark number will not be as good as s5, m8 due to QHD resolution given they use same cpu as S5 witb FHD resolution.
browsing make use of QHD, graphic, processing, javascript, and everything, while talk time is not (just black screen).
Screen measurement is disapointing already compared to even G2. It means the panel quality is not as good.
They praised it in the end because from normal user it really is good lhone witb good design. LG tried hard.
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Jishnu Sur™ said:
This is clearly a pathetic review. They say everything against it on the particular page and on the last page they say everything positive. And those smart people made the review with the preproduction unit too! A phone with a tallk time of 25hours can never have 6:30 Minutes of web browsing. Also, what disappointment in benchamarks? Seriously? Then Nexus 5 is the worst phone ever on performance..
Best is go and have a look at it yourself. Samsung paid them sooo much just to get the name down.. They sold more than 100000 Units in the first 5 days which was 3 times more than the S5 so obviously Samsung is jealous. I have written a mail to them asking about each and every aspect. Hope they reply soon.:good:
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I'm sure there is some wild conspiracy as to why GSM Arena lied in their review. Surely Samsung paid them off! Speaking of Samsung and sales...there was a huge no sale in South Korea the same time the S5 launched, which explains the low initial numbers. This has been reported by news outlets. I'm an LG fan and wanted the G3 to be so much more, but they were too quick to market with the QHD screen and should've waited for better battery tech or processor optimization. I'm buying the G2 over this phone, because it's been proven to be an amazing device, even months later. Don't let your fanboyism blind you...
dragon135 said:
Well the numbers and measurement don't lie. We already know the benchmark number will not be as good as s5, m8 due to QHD resolution given they use same cpu as S5 witb FHD resolution.
browsing make use of QHD, graphic, processing, javascript, and everything, while talk time is not (just black screen).
Screen measurement is disapointing already compared to even G2. It means the panel quality is not as good.
They praised it in the end because from normal user it really is good lhone witb good design. LG tried hard.
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Exactly! Numbers certainly don't lie...
I kinda wish anandtech do all flagship phones reviews, they seem to be the only one out there that actually understand the stuffs inside modern cell phones :-|
nap007 said:
I kinda wish anandtech do all flagship phones reviews, they seem to be the only one out there that actually understand the stuffs inside modern cell phones :-|
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Anandtech are buyed peoples. They said 7hour web browsing for nexus 4 where mine only could do 3hours and 30min.
Dont trust them they are buyed peoples
I just went to my local tmobzsz and used the note 4, i have the g3 on zone rom with skydragon kernel so bare(bear? Idfk lol) with me.. I was really expecting a lot since it was a amoled 2k screen.
I turned it on and went straight to display settings and put the most vivid color settings it had and to my surprise my g3 colors were wayyy more to my liking (skydragon has a different color setting, colors really pop and my g3 has no tint, my girlfriends does tho) but yea my color settings are basically in the middle of the gallery icon in accessibility settings and i was really shocked to see how faded they were on the note and its not like my colors are crazy saturated to where everything looks weird but theyre amazing to me. Im really glad i went with the g3, the 805 makes no difference to me, i have greenify with no lag, and i used to game a lot on my phone but realised no matter what, if a game is high end, a small screen doesnt cut it.. our screen is sharper(ppi makes a difference) and the colors on skydragon are more vivid. Amoled always looked cartoonish to me aswell but thats my 2 cents. Think before buying or trading.
No phone has our high density, colors (on skydragon) or design. Yea the note 4 looks better than any NOTE OR GALAXY but our g3 is nexus like. And our brightness is blinding.
And for all those thinking of the n6.. That design killed it, dual speakers? Ok? Skydragon has fauxsound and with that app you can find around the webzs my speaker can be heard from 2 rooms away on full blast, 6 inches with wayy less pixels andd amoled ...after today. I have desided to stay.
Just waiting for mr faux to release a aosp kernel so those colors can be on cm
SORRY FOR THE CHILDISH LAYOUT LMAO[emoji16] [emoji44]
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I was never thinking about switching bit it's always nice to hear our phone is great. Thanks man. I played with an iPhone 6 that my boss has and of course it made me love my phone way more.
Definately trading my g3 for the note 4
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Definately trading my g3 for the note 4
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Just saying man... Were fully unlocked. Note 3 n s4 n 5 are still locked after years. And were the closest thing to stock android... With some bloat removed and aosp icon pack and my theme for tweaksbox. But your loss.
And about the iphone yea that screen is ****
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I find the G3 alot like the nexus in terms of looks too, i mean cover up the colour panel at the bottom they look nearly the same - all black looks mean as
I've never had any issues with the color reproduction on our device quite frankly. Of course, if you keep two devices side to side and compare then you'll find differences but if you judge the G3 standalone - I don't really think you can complain about the colors. Despite not being an AMOLED our G3's blacks are quite deep (and I've used AMOLED previously with the Note 2).
All in all, it's nice to see people still finding the G3 great. I find both the Note 4 & the Nexus 6 to be great devices. Maybe the Nexus 6 is too huge for some people's likings, but you never know until you've held one in your hands. Still, nothing that'll make me switch from my G3 so soon. ☺
I might be the only person that cancelled a note 4 preorder and bought a G3. I loved the form factor and size of the G3. Perfect for my hand.
I also primarily use a phone as a just that, a phone. Novelty wears off real quick with me and I know I will never use a pen interface on a phone.
Im right there with all of you guys. But i never really thought pixel density mattered till today idk if its the fact that its amoled or not but the sharpness difference are crazy. The n6 really shouldve chosen the g3 screen to be honest, with all those high specs, less than 500 ppi. Might let some dow , especially for the price
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and i was really shocked to see how faded they were on the note
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The Note 4 has the best phone display to date, as tested scientifically.
G3 or Note 4
Hi all,
I do look at this a bit differently. Although the screen of of the G3 is indeed beautiful I really don't think it weighs up to the amount of resources it takes. Same probably goes for the note 4. Maybe some users really see the difference but if I load the same wallpaper on both my "old" Note 3 and my new G3, I must try really hard to see any difference at all. This leads me to believe that the screen quality has reached it's limits as to what you can actually see with the human eye. What would like to see is a phone that actually uses its processor and battery just for better performance (as in speed and ROM and RAM capacity and battery life). Isn't it crazy that so much time and money is being spend on even greater displays which my eyes can't grasp anyway?
This raises a few questions:
1* How come we have a microSD card with 128 GB of ROM but most phones come with 16 or 32 GB?
2* If the Note 4 (or G3 for that matter) would have the same display as the previous model, but with the new battery and processor? How fast would it go and how long would a battery last?
Obviously I'm not a developer and maybe the above isn't quite as simple as I put it, but I do know this: My rooted Note 3 with Slim Rom on it, runs faster and smoother then my new G3!
Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain.
Willem:
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LG G3 / Stock ROM
Pfeffernuss said:
The Note 4 has the best phone display to date, as tested scientifically.
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Yea until you see it in person and see it really isnt that great, tested familytifically
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brolic925t said:
tested familytifically
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Seriously ...... lol :laugh:
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Seriously ...... lol :laugh:
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Lmao. Had to. But seriously guys adjust your colors on skydragon and go test it out side by side. Sharpness g3 wins hands down, colors in my opinion are way better on g3 if you know how to set it up, coming from the n4 which had a **** screen till faux released his kernel with gamma settings, i became obsessed with screen colors.
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Willem1975 said:
Hi all,
I do look at this a bit differently. Although the screen of of the G3 is indeed beautiful I really don't think it weighs up to the amount of resources it takes. Same probably goes for the note 4. Maybe some users really see the difference but if I load the same wallpaper on both my "old" Note 3 and my new G3, I must try really hard to see any difference at all. This leads me to believe that the screen quality has reached it's limits as to what you can actually see with the human eye. What would like to see is a phone that actually uses its processor and battery just for better performance (as in speed and ROM and RAM capacity and battery life). Isn't it crazy that so much time and money is being spend on even greater displays which my eyes can't grasp anyway?
This raises a few questions:
1* How come we have a microSD card with 128 GB of ROM but most phones come with 16 or 32 GB?
2* If the Note 4 (or G3 for that matter) would have the same display as the previous model, but with the new battery and processor? How fast would it go and how long would a battery last?
Obviously I'm not a developer and maybe the above isn't quite as simple as I put it, but I do know this: My rooted Note 3 with Slim Rom on it, runs faster and smoother then my new G3!
Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain.
Willem:
Note 3 / Slim ROM
LG G3 / Stock ROM
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The thing is, its not really the hardware that makes the phones runs smoother anymore, depending on what skin is ON android.. I HAVE A REALLY OLD PHONE RUNNING cM11 (just realised caps in on sorry)the motorola defy and it runs smooth. And its gunna be able to support android l because we have a def that resized the partitions to let it be able to run, and i bet its gunna run really good. The thing is companys add so much **** to android it needs the high specs just to run the software, screens dont really make a difference from 720 to 2k, its the size of the screen that kills the battery. I honestly dont know why google release the n6 with all those specs because android l is really optimized now it doesnt need 3 gigs of ram nor does it need that cpu the battery is a nice touch since it isnt removeable. But yea I ran L on the n5 and its butter smooth, kitkat on my n7 is butter smooth and i just added greenify to it, its so fast it looks fake. I guarantee the n4 is still gunna be really smooth because even carbon rom with all those extra features are stilllll smooth.
Its gotten to the point where specs dont matter but they see how people are and take it as a selling point(take advantage)
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If during some strange dream, someone had to give me an iphone 6 or 6+ as a present.. I'm sure that peace of crap would go straight into the bin! It has no class compared to our G3 ( if any comparison at all ) .. i say STICK with the G3
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Ignorance is bliss.
Good luck with the artificially sharpened display. However thought of that is a complete moron.
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brolic925t said:
The thing is, its not really the hardware that makes the phones runs smoother anymore, depending on what skin is ON android.. I HAVE A REALLY OLD PHONE RUNNING cM11 (just realised caps in on sorry)the motorola defy and it runs smooth. And its gunna be able to support android l because we have a def that resized the partitions to let it be able to run, and i bet its gunna run really good. The thing is companys add so much **** to android it needs the high specs just to run the software, screens dont really make a difference from 720 to 2k, its the size of the screen that kills the battery. I honestly dont know why google release the n6 with all those specs because android l is really optimized now it doesnt need 3 gigs of ram nor does it need that cpu the battery is a nice touch since it isnt removeable. But yea I ran L on the n5 and its butter smooth, kitkat on my n7 is butter smooth and i just added greenify to it, its so fast it looks fake. I guarantee the n4 is still gunna be really smooth because even carbon rom with all those extra features are stilllll smooth.
Its gotten to the point where specs dont matter but they see how people are and take it as a selling point(take advantage)
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But why isn't there a phone producer that cut the fancy ****, and just makes phone with massice storage, a battery that lasts for 3 day's and a reasonable to good screen? That thing would sell like hotcakes I recon.
Willem1975 said:
But why isn't there a phone producer that cut the fancy ****, and just makes phone with massice storage, a battery that lasts for 3 day's and a reasonable to good screen? That thing would sell like hotcakes I recon.
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well, the thing is if the n5 had our screen, with our batt and 32 gigs or 64, that wouldve been that phone. but i seriously doubt any company would do that because then when they want to top that, they wouldnt be able to. they know people always want better so they never make perfect, they want us to keep buyin new **** so they can make moneyy
Pfeffernuss said:
The Note 4 has the best phone display to date, as tested scientifically.
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No. It is tested marketingifically IYKWIMean. So please STFU
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Ignorance is bliss.
Good luck with the artificially sharpened display. However thought of that is a complete moron.
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And believing in the advertiser's "reviews" is being a ad's slave, too
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artificially sharpened display
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Yeah? How about Pen tile "ripoff"? "Diamond pattern", they say. How about getting 30% less full RGB pixels than advertized on the box? Yeah, yeah, babe, pay to them, cheaters
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No. It is tested marketingifically IYKWIMean. So please STFU And believing in the advertiser's "reviews" is being a ad's slave, too
Yeah? How about Pen tile "ripoff"? "Diamond pattern", they say. How about getting 30% less full RGB pixels than advertized on the box? Yeah, yeah, babe, pay to them, cheaters
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Schooled. This guys good^
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I've read several just released articles about samsung producing a 5.9 inch 4k screen for it.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/11/06/galaxy-note-5-might-sport-ultra-hd-4k-display/
My understanding over the years is that on screens this size you would really not be able to tell the difference between the two anyway.
So any experts out there can you provide insight.
Will it be noticeable on phone screens at the level we are now.....
Although the prospect of it is fun to talk about, I'm too in love with my note 4 to think about that right now. I wouldn't doubt samsung will not want to be out done in their own space but unless they can squeeze 5.9 inch screen into this same form factor and achieve the same battery, no thanks imo.
Are you not familiar with the industry? This is how it goes
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Are you not familiar with the industry? This is how it gies
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I agree, I think everyone will say you can't tell the difference, nobody wants that. But if they pull it off with good battery life and decent form factor, everyone will want it, even if they can't tell the difference (ie 720P -> 1080P -> 2160P).
Yea. 5.9 is too much. 5.7 is extreme borderline. That's one reason I have no interest in the Nexus 6. It's too big, and it's only big for the sake of being big. Doesn't offer any extra functionality with its size like the note does
They should have released the note 4 with a 6" screen. Same size or a tad bigger would have been perfect.
I read somewhere that the naked eye doesn't even see a difference between 1080p and 4K until you have a screen size of 50 inches. That said, on a Smartphone, it'd be pointless. Then again, I did see this page that has a chart that contains the distance from your monitor vs the size of your monitor, and shows a line where you'd see a difference. Not sure how accurate this is. The chart only goes down to 2 ft (viewing distance) and a 20 inch monitor. Most of us may be looking at are phones from about 1 ft away, roughly. That said, I can't imagine 4k actually making a difference, on screen. Now, if the phone were to get docked and the content was viewed on a TV, that'd obviously be a different story.
http://www.rtings.com/info/4k-ultra-hd-uhd-vs-1080p-full-hd-tvs
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Yea. 5.9 is too much. 5.7 is extreme borderline. That's one reason I have no interest in the Nexus 6. It's too big, and it's only big for the sake of being big. Doesn't offer any extra functionality with its size like the note does
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Agreed.
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I don't mind big screens. I saw 2 weeks ago about a phone the Hisense X1 (I think that's the name) but it is supposed to be here in the next few weeks they say. It's an overs seas right now but it's got a freaking 6.8 inch 1080 screen and the usual specs.
The damn thing comes with a remote control for it which I've never heard of.
That might be much but for me my ideal would be 6.
I don't talk that much and I mainly use my 4 for writing and as a computer.
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They should have released the note 4 with a 6" screen. Same size or a tad bigger would have been perfect.
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Agreed. If this baby was 6 inches I would consider it the perfect phone. Aside from Lockzilla and their pita control
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I read somewhere that the naked eye doesn't even see a difference between 1080p and 4K until you have a screen size of 50 inches. That said, on a Smartphone, it'd be pointless. Then again, I did see this page that has a chart that contains the distance from your monitor vs the size of your monitor, and shows a line where you'd see a difference. Not sure how accurate this is. The chart only goes down to 2 ft (viewing distance) and a 20 inch monitor. Most of us may be looking at are phones from about 1 ft away, roughly. That said, I can't imagine 4k actually making a difference, on screen. Now, if the phone were to get docked and the content was viewed on a TV, that'd obviously be a different story.
http://www.rtings.com/info/4k-ultra-hd-uhd-vs-1080p-full-hd-tvs
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I as well have been told by TV experts that unless your TV is 50 inches or bigger you wouldn't tell if it was 720 or 1080.
I just was not sure if the principle applied to phones as well.
I will say I had to operate on my wife's S4 last night and it made me love this screen even more.
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Are you not familiar with the industry? This is how it goes
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Yeah I know that they will continue screen wars always until it's 20k. I was just wondering on these phone screens if it would make a noticeable difference or basically be a marketing point
Short of 64 bit architecture what would actually be changed for the N5?
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Yeah I know that they will continue screen wars always until it's 20k. I was just wondering on these phone screens if it would make a noticeable difference or basically be a marketing point
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the science says your eyes won't tell the difference,
but your OCD tells you that you will, it tells me that too. but it's best to ignore it.
Rumor has it the Note 6 will be out after the Note 5.
I can easily tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on my 40" tv at any distance from 2in to 15ft, I have an S5 and can definitely tell the difference between that and my old Droid Razr HD when holding it between 4 in from my nose and full arms length (approx 2'), I have both and use both every day, the HD although 720p is one of the sharpest cell phone screens I have ever seen, but the S5 is so much better, I can still see the pixels (when extremely close) on the Razr HD, but not at all on the S5. I am not interested in 4k at all, 2k would be nice I think, but not the right format for the display dimensions of the standard phone shape.
That said, I eagerly await the opportunity to order a Note 4 DE, the only thing that would change my mind on that is if Samsung announces a 2015 12.2" note pro model with reasonably decent specs (the last one was spec'd too low).
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I read somewhere that the naked eye doesn't even see a difference between 1080p and 4K until you have a screen size of 50 inches. That said, on a Smartphone, it'd be pointless. Then again, I did see this page that has a chart that contains the distance from your monitor vs the size of your monitor, and shows a line where you'd see a difference. Not sure how accurate this is. The chart only goes down to 2 ft (viewing distance) and a 20 inch monitor. Most of us may be looking at are phones from about 1 ft away, roughly. That said, I can't imagine 4k actually making a difference, on screen. Now, if the phone were to get docked and the content was viewed on a TV, that'd obviously be a different story.
http://www.rtings.com/info/4k-ultra-hd-uhd-vs-1080p-full-hd-tvs
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Just my two cents...I personally can tell a huge difference between the 1080p S5 and the QuadHD display of the LG G3. And I'm a Samsung guy. Anyways, I'm back on the 900T. So much snappier and reliable but I do miss the G3's screen terribly. Lol...
ronaldheld said:
Short of 64 bit architecture what would actually be changed for the N5?
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Snap dragon 805 is a 64bit chip... KitKat isn't 64bit....
Boss428man said:
Snap dragon 805 is a 64bit chip... KitKat isn't 64bit....
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Sorry, but the Snapdragon 805 is not a 64 bit chip.
Redapple63 said:
Sorry, but the Snapdragon 805 is not a 64 bit chip.
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I'm no chip expert, but everything I have read has confirmed this.
The next one will be 64, but apps and games no where near max out the current tech we have.
It will probably be forever before 64 bit tech is taken advantage of.
Hoping for a better experience than I had with my Note 3 on AT&T in the rooting and customization areas.
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It is alot better device than the note 3
This will get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
After that go to the development section and profit.
Android_Monsters said:
This will get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
After that go to the development section and profit.
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I plan to.
AT&T locked bootloader almost spoiled me on the rooting.
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tat2messiah said:
It is alot better device than the note 3
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I am surprised to hear that because the Note 3 is still a powerhouse of a phone to me. It's just that the locked bootloader was very restrictive.
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I came from the Galaxy S5 recently! Welcome!
Yes the note 3 was a beast and still is....but in comparison to the note 4 it shows its age as it feels really dated
I downgraded in screen size from the xperia z ultra but this screen is amazing camera is freaking awesome. And so is the screen I always said why do we need a 4k screen but now I have one I know why
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Hoping for a better experience than I had with my Note 3 on AT&T in the rooting and customization areas.
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Welcome! I am a former AT&T Note 3 owner myself and can guarantee that you will not be disappointed with the Note 4 [emoji106]
I know I'm not! The screen takes my breath away! And with 4k rez right around the corner. Will see Super AMOLED PLUS Ultra 4k
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On the note 5! Better take my breath away. If Samsung screws up. The iPhone 6S/ 7 will be the way to go
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I know I'm not! The screen takes my breath away! And with 4k rez right around the corner. Will see Super AMOLED PLUS Ultra 4k
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On the note 5! Better take my breath away. If Samsung screws up. The iPhone 6S/ 7 will be the way to go
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4k = nonsense.. why waste more battery when you absolutely cannot see any difference at ALLL.. 2k already impossible to see to the naked eye so what benefit your getting from 4k?.. if you can tell me some reasonable benefit ill give you all my support. .
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4k = nonsense.. why waste more battery when you absolutely cannot see any difference at ALLL.. 2k already impossible to see to the naked eye so what benefit your getting from 4k?.. if you can tell me some reasonable benefit ill give you all my support. .
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Dude, if you can't see the difference between FULL HD. And 2K? You clearly have vision problems. When I went from the note 3, to the note 4. The change was amazing. Screen still awws me at times
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Dude, if you can't see the difference between FULL HD. And 2K? You clearly have vision problems. When I went from the note 3, to the note 4. The change was amazing. Screen still awws me at times
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Dude YOUR clearly retarded.. no naked eye can see the difference between 2k and 4k. You got stunned because the panel is different... n the color reproduction is different. Does not mean the actual ppi in full HD was a dramatic increase when switcging to 4k. Learn more about hardware n display panels (digitizer).. ill pay for someone to spt a lixel in a full HD screen while viewing a full hd video.. the human eye just cant spot it...
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Dude YOUR clearly retarded.. no naked eye can see the difference between 2k and 4k. You got stunned because the panel is different... n the color reproduction is different. Does not mean the actual ppi in full HD was a dramatic increase when switcging to 4k. Learn more about hardware n display panels (digitizer).. ill pay for someone to spt a lixel in a full HD screen while viewing a full hd video.. the human eye just cant spot it...
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YOUR human eye can't spot it....sht I know damn well me and many people out there can tell the difference. I'm not "retarded" I'm just not blind like some, or have eye's to f'd up to distinct bright colors. Foo says I'm " stunned" what are you a doctorate In the field of digitizer and pixels? Lmao I still have my note 3. And I can tell you I can TELL the difference. Hmm it's odd every person I've showed my gallery too is in awe. Sucks for you bud! Aww the beauty of 20×20 Vision
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YOUR human eye can't spot it....sht I know damn well me and many people out there can tell the difference. I'm not "retarded" I'm just not blind like some, or have eye's to f'd up to distinct bright colors. Foo says I'm " stunned" what are you a doctorate In the field of digitizer and pixels? Lmao I still have my note 3. And I can tell you I can TELL the difference. Hmm it's odd every person I've showed my gallery too is in awe. Sucks for you bud! Aww the beauty of 20×20 Vision
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Okay brother. Well your gifted.
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Okay brother. Well your gifted.
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Your telling me....on your note FOUR. A YouTube video will look the same to you no matter if it's on 230p or 1440p?? Your telling me you see no difference dude?
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Your telling me....on your note FOUR. A YouTube video will look the same to you no matter if it's on 230p or 1440p?? Your telling me you see no difference dude?
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Play booth video at same resolution. But okay you win lol i dont got time for this
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Android_Monsters said:
This will get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
After that go to the development section and profit.
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+1
Just got my Note 4 tonight after waiting for it to be shipped! Loving it! Got mine white, Caseology case and IntelliGlass tempered glass screen protector. Came from the Note 2.. Will be rooting soon for sure. Was running Lollipop on the 2, might just root tomorrow or this weekend and that's it til I play with the "stock" options til I figure them all out and decide what rom I wanna try first...
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